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Well just a thought, but Nina had been holed away working away on......something..... at Ashford before Lelouch even finds her. It wouldn't be too unlikely for her to have already been working on a theorectical Anti Frieja before Lelouch even came to power, having been snapped out of her hate on upon seing the devastation she had wrought, and wanting to fix it somehow. Lelouch simply gave her the resources to actually make it. Which would also explain why she agreed to work with him so easily.
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At any rate, though, I'll say this: you can certainly poke the odd hole in Code Geass' ending. You can poke more than the odd hole in Code Geass in general. It's never been the sort of series to go for a 100% consistent plot. It sacrifices, where a choice has to be made, coherence for style. That can indeed be seen as a bad thing, and if it bothers you then you probably shouldn't be watching the series in the first place. But if you take that as read, then I believe that the Zero Requiem doesn't have such logical problems as to existentially endanger it, and moreover that thematically it provides a near-perfect (though not entirely perfect) conclusion to the series. Which, as I've said in the past, is why I defend it. |
I say that while the series was great, not all characters had awesome stories. Take C. C. for example, she had much potential yet we only see Suzaku and Lelouch.
The best part was the ending. No show has made me cry and despite the fact that I saw he ending before I saw the series I cried for a long time. |
I wouldn't say the ending was really sad. More like Shocking ... when the credits were rolling , my eyes were just staring at the screen and I was thinking for hours haha
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i gave a perfect 10
the series is too great with all the mind games ,planning ,plotting and politics and lelouch's plan to end this was best of them all great animation, story, music, characters, mecha action(actually it's the first mecha i saw) a perfect series the best thing was that lelouch's vision of making a better world for his sister nanully was accomplished |
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I finished "Code Geass" and thought it was an AMAZING anime! The whole story was great and the ending... :eyespin: So I wanted to know: What do you guys like most about Code Geass? Why is it so special? And What's up, with THE END ? :twitch: Thanks a lot for your thinking.. ;) |
Kallen and Lelouch are what drew me to CG. KMFs were great too, though they went all Super Roboty in R2.
Geass and that Lelouch wasn't a goodie two shoes warrior and instead had to rely on his intellect to win and did questionable things to reach his goals. His flaws were also nice as well, they made him more entertaining when things blew up in his face. The end was infuriating. Ohgi and co. deserved death for their stupidity and Lelouch and Kallen deserved better. At least there's SRW that fixed that ending with its Believe in Zero Route. |
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When people say that character development is lacking, I often question whether they really paid attention to the minor details. Watching the show twice often reveals information and details often missed the first time. I personally rate CG on the top of my personal favourite anime. Is it a perfect 10? Probably not, but then again, no anime is. I have watched/read many series, One Piece, Naruto, Gundam Seed, Gundam 00, Gurren Lagann, Gundam Endless Waltz, Black Cat, Rave Master, .Hack//Sign, 666 Satan, Reborn!, Fairy Tail, Death Note, Bleach, FMA, HotD, D.Gray Man, DBZ and many more. They all have their own little quirks which makes them not perfect. That being said,and none have left me with the feelings Code Geass does. Maybe it's cause i watched the series in 4 hour intevals, but Code Geass had some of the strongest messages in an Anime i have ever experienced. The experience Okouchi portrays through Lelouch is incredibly deep and really allows the viewer to feel the pain and wavering emotions he is experiencing. I view many plot twists as a test to Lelouches emotions and dedication to his cause. When Nunally is re-dubbed a Britannian Princess, when Lelouch discovers his mother knew of her assassination, he is constantly forced to re-think his objectives and re-affirm himself of his resolve. I will not deny that the series has its ups and downs, but EVERY series does. Even a series viewed by many as perfect, such as One Piece (don't get me wrong, i love the series) has intervals that I am not too fond of. The messages of CG delve deep and the ending helps solidify the message. For those reasons, I view CG as my favourite anime of all time. A melancholic story blooms a beautiful flower of illumination and reverence. To me, CG is perfect without being perfect. "Even heroes have moments they loathe. Its the ability to push through and discern those moments that defines them" ~ Kachi DeNoir |
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Yeah, seems no one in the Geass world remembered that Cornelia was publicly working with Schneziel and only changed her mind behind closed doors. Yet the rebels gladly worked with their former tormentor to try and deal with Lelouch. The sad thing is that we aren't shown Lelouch doing anything "evil" after he won the war other than making everyone believe that he wanted to execute his enemies.
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Does anyone have the results of the Animedia character polls for '08 (and possibly '07)? It says Rolo was voted most heroic for '08.
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Killing the person Lelouch loved in cold blood and lying about why pretty much sealed that vibe from Lelouch towards him.
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Yeah. Just because Rolo was psychoticly obsessed enough with Lelouch to die for him doesn't make him heroic. He still killed Shirley, was going to kill Nunnally (and was pretty clearly glad she was apparantly dead) and probably would have killed anyone ever who ever got close to Lelouch. The only reason he probably didn't kill C.C. was because he couldn't. And Lelouch being in that situation was partially Rolo's fault, as the reason he was acting so erratic and secretly took out the Geass order under the BK's nose was because of Rolo.
In short. No. Rolo was still a very dangerous, very unstable sociopathic killer, and would have just repeatedly caused Lelouch problems. Calling him heroic for one act of helping Lelouch is incredibly biased in favor of Lelouch (which most of the Geass fanbase is anyway so....) |
Last time I watched the series was back when it first aired. And what used to be a highly entertaining action show with mecha set pieces has now become a compelling character drama against a tumultuous political backdrop expressed through battles and conquest. Partly my lack thereof observation, the nuances of the character writing can nevertheless be lost easily to the theatrics of even the moment to moment progression
Kallen is one the more notable beneficiaries of this new lease on the show. The fiery temperament she directs at her enemies for her own goals is slowly all but supplanted by a reliance on a symbol. But far from the only reason she fights, her willpower is ironically always tied to someone or something else, helplessness overwhelming at the prospect of her anchors disappearing Suzaku Kururugi. I don't hate this guy at all. He's a white knight in every sense of the word; upstanding, gallant, selfless, and pure. Too pure. The hypocrisy of his own actions is not lost on him as he continuously tries to justify what he's doing. But unable to accept the release of death, he eventually snaps and owns up to the contradiction of his life. Such is the tragedy of one who'd seek to light the abyss from within Lelouch vi Britannia. Lelouch Lamperouge. Zero. His theatrics leave the series with a lasting impression, but his personality immortalizes his character. He possesses the megalomania of a villain but directed to selfless goals. He's ruthlessly brilliant at times, but saves his unbridled wrath for those who earn his scorn. He's never desensitized to the blood on his hands to the point he becomes compromised. Lelouch, in essence, has the personality of a villain but the moral center of a hero. All hail Let's talk about the elephant in the room, R2. I like R2. Not as much as season 1, but the difference is small. The main thing holding back R2 is its heavy dive into the supernatural, becoming incredibly esoteric and at odds tonally and contextually with the rest of the series. It presumably happens for C2's development, but the bits and pieces gathered from flashbacks and dialog from other characters is enough to form an idea of her backstory. These parts of the show are at least graciously short, and the finale with Lelouch gaining the Dual Mangekyou Geass is a cathartic moment for his character Some of the smaller things about R2. Jeremiah suddenly treating Lelouch as if he didn't have a grudge against him at all when he found out he was Marianne's son. Rolo deciding to let Lelouch go after the latter just held him at gun point. Lelouch and the Shinkirou swooping in from above to shield Shinke and the Shen-hu when there's no other way out the cave without any indication Lelouch flew past the entrance again. And the superfluousness of the Knight of 1 and Knight of 10, who exist to lose to Suzaku and Kallen respectively, and the Knights of the Round in general Oh, and let's close this off with the Knightmares themselves. I love how they reflect the personality of their pilots. The nimble and defensive Lancelot, the frantic and offensive power of the Guren MkII, the towering humanoid fortress called the Gawain/Shinkirou, the no-nonsense straightforward Mordred, the transformative and flashy Tristan, the black and white accents aligning the muscular Galahad, the unhinged movements of the Siegfried. I love it when a mecha isn't just distinct, but reflective of the pilot inside (my favorite Knightmare, btw, is the simple, straightforward but distinguished Zangetsu) Man this show is awesome. Also Pizza Hut |
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