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Daniel E. 2011-01-25 04:05

Kazumi Magica - The Innocent Malice (Spinoff manga series)
 
Mahou Shoujo Kazumi Magica
Spinoff started serializing in Manga Time Kirara Forward starting March 2011 issue (release on January 24, 2011).

Story by Hiramatsu Masaki.
Illustrated by Tensugi Takashi.


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BaKaBaKaOtaKu 2011-01-25 04:19

whoa!! that's nice! XD

sirn 2011-01-25 04:55

Just finished the first chapter… its relation to Madoka is much weaker than I thought. But Kazumi is adorable.

http://i.imgur.com/XRMHm.jpg

Spoiler for ch1 summary:

Kismet-chan 2011-01-25 04:59

Edit: I answered my own question. Nevermind. XD

Definitely looks and sounds interesting.

scr 2011-01-25 06:48

Ummm... i don't see how Kazumi's story is supposed to be related to Madoka's :heh:
Good job btw, sirn. Do you actually live in Japan?

applejuice 2011-01-25 07:02

It's not a mahou shoujo...

it's just...

DARK THRILLER

Hypernova 2011-01-25 07:37

Am I the only one to notice that her expression is rather menacing when she disposed of the monster?

redgrnbluylw 2011-01-25 14:55

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Originally Posted by Hypernova (Post 3455140)
Am I the only one to notice that her expression is rather menacing when she disposed of the monster?

Well, it is titled "Innocent Malice" ;)

Mow Yun 2011-01-25 15:38

I'm not quite sure I'm approving of that huge hat o_o but the expression of the background character on the cover seems particularly ominous :S

omimon 2011-02-13 15:16

Who here is willing to bet that Kazumi will make sort of appearance in the last episode of the anime or something.

Raiga 2011-02-13 17:34

What interests me is what the inspector lady said when she started transforming... referring to the mysterious person/thing who gave her the information on Tachibana. "Not only did (s)he give me information, (s)he also gave me power enough to kill someone without leaving a single trace." Possible indication of another Kyubey-type figure? Or maybe Kyubey himself...?

Ravenblitz 2011-02-19 06:13

the spin off Kazumi Magicka is so-so but i'll give it a couple of chapters to judge it.. totally not comparable to Madoka Magicka manga

amnesiac moe mahou shoujo.. she looks like a witch though and no Kyubey :(

Sol Falling 2011-02-19 14:06

So...that was pretty awesome. Is there such a thing as naked moe? :P lol but Kazumi was just great in general. The generally cheerful and flippant atmosphere will probably make this a fun ride regardless of content. On the other hand, Kazumi's art is kinda not very attractive when she's wearing a serious expression. Cognitive dissonance. I wonder if I won't have an issue with that as we get deeper into the manga.

Kazumi was kidnapped, has magical powers, and seems to have lost all her memories. There is the mysterious figure whom she was supposed to have been traded to; there is also the mysterious figure who gave the cop powers and a lead on the cook guy. They both seem to have been specifically targeted at Kazumi, but I can't feel yet that both mysterious figures are the same person. Kinda interesting.

I will be interested to know how this manga is related at all to Madoka Magica. Thus far they even seem completely different universes. So far, it is more interesting/entertaining than the anime adaption manga though as the content is stuff we haven't seen before.

Scrooge McDuck 2011-02-20 14:04

As a fan of cross-media franchise, I am a bit miffed that this doesn't seem to have anything to do with Madoka Magica universe. The only common factor is that both try a different approach to the genre.

Miraluka 2011-02-25 21:29

After reading the first chapter, I have to say Kazumi is more interested by far compared to Madoka and her I-can't-do-nothing syndrome.

I wonder if anyone else has thought of Kyubee when Kazumi's got flash memory about corpses of herself around her.

Raiga 2011-03-12 23:35

... btw whatever happened to this? When do chapters come out?

Shadow5YA 2011-03-13 00:23

I can't tell whether this is set in the distant, unspecified future of Madoka's time, or if this is in a different universe entirely.

The Puella Magi contract is exactly the same, with a silhouette of Madoka and Kyubey as reference. However, the Witch was able to be returned back to a normal human, which makes hope that Madoka was able to make a breakthrough and tweak the system.

novalysis 2011-03-13 01:40

Perhaps this is a slightly different system , set after Madoka ? It might be that in this system , Puella Magi's go through 3 stages . Firstly , as a Puella Magi , Secondly , as a Witch , and finally assuming that they've survived long enough/somehow redeemed/ repent, returned to their human selves , with all it's implications .

Essentially , with Witch like powers , but without the draw back of insanity. In other words , immensely powerful reality warpers with their humanity intact - or as intact as their powers would allow them. Barriers created by them are extremely subtle and almost indistinguishable from reality, and within their barrier , their conscious will becomes reality.

Kazumi is essentially a Puella Magi - post Madoka rewrite of the rules. Which might explain why the connection is much weaker - the whole system was amended.

Alternatively , this might be a more advance system created by the Incubators , designed to ensure that Worlds last longer , and a more sustainable harvesting of souls can be effected. PM3 was essentially the prototype Alpha , this is the Beta.

Shadow5YA 2011-03-13 02:00

That is the question: is this series set in the same universe as Madoka's, or is this series unrelated to Madoka's plot, and the setting is merely based on Madoka's universe?

novalysis 2011-03-13 08:12

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Originally Posted by Shadow5YA (Post 3529468)
That is the question: is this series set in the same universe as Madoka's, or is this series unrelated to Madoka's plot, and the setting is merely based on Madoka's universe?

In other words , it's relation to Madoka's storyline ? My personal take is that Kazumi lives in a Universe where Witches can redeemed , and she is a Witch that has emerged out of her insanity and despair , with no memories at all of her deed as a Witch , nor as a Puella Magi . A stage 3 Puella Magi.

Sol Falling 2011-03-13 14:16

Holy crap guys, did noone else notice yet? The black cat showed up in Kazumi Magica! My mind is currently being blown.

Anyway yeah, it seems like Kazumi Magica does have a somewhat stronger connection to Madoka Magica than we thought it had. Soul Gems exist, and witches also apparently drop something; though if that is a Grief Seed isn't really known yet. The mysterious person creating witches/handing out power I spoke about last time seems to have been revealed, and is a Puella Magi...? Or maybe she's just another mysterious character? In any case, the idea that this world is somehow related to the Madoka Magica universe makes the flashbacks Kazumi had in the first chapter much more anomalous and notable--six witches and/or mahou shoujos standing around a hexagram, Kazumi recieving her bells (Soul Gems?) from an older adult figure...

It'll probably be a while before we see the answers to these mysteries. Chapter 2 made me feel less Kazumi moe than the first one, but this manga is still pretty awesome.

FatPianoBoy 2011-03-13 14:58

Wow, this mangaka has no idea how to frame action scenes. Still, the story is interesting, especially since the differences in witches and grief seeds are probably not just stylistic changes. I was pretty indifferent about the first chapter, but the second one is quite a bit better.

Myssa Rei 2011-03-13 16:39

I'm really curious if the manga-ka is working off the script that Gen wrote, or is just HOPING that it connects somehow with the anime (assuming the TV series ends on a bittersweet note).

FatPianoBoy 2011-03-13 18:12

It's a spin-off, so really he only needs to understand the fundamentals of the universe he's writing in. It doesn't have to connect to the characters of the anime at all as long as the rules for the creation of magical girls and their eventual fates remain consistent. My money is on these girls being the witches from the first half of the series, though.

Dark Wing 2011-03-13 22:28

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Originally Posted by FatPianoBoy (Post 3530346)
My money is on these girls being the witches from the first half of the series, though.

I'm betting Kazumi turns out to be Walpurgis Night whose with me?

novalysis 2011-03-14 11:14

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Originally Posted by Dark Wing (Post 3530615)
I'm betting Kazumi turns out to be Walpurgis Night whose with me?

I disagree . The Puella Magi system seems to be significantly different from that of Madoka Magica. However, I do have a pet theory that Kazumi is a former Witch who was somehow turned back into a Magical Girl , and that this series is set Post-Madoka . Which means that we might be looking at the aftermath of Madoka's rewrite of reality . I suspect if Madoka was to make a contract in the time-loop Madoka Magica's set in , it would strongly revolve around rewriting the system as much as she can.

Miraluka 2011-03-15 16:28

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Originally Posted by Dark Wing (Post 3530615)
I'm betting Kazumi turns out to be Walpurgis Night whose with me?

I disagree.

Why nobody seems to be suspecting of this girl?
http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/6883/25239643.jpg

Proto 2011-03-15 16:31

That's the teacher

Seihai 2011-03-15 16:32

Oh my goodness, it's German subs! lol

NaweG 2011-03-15 20:17

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Originally Posted by Proto (Post 3532818)
That's the teacher

Who is unmarried, and therefore still "eligible" even if a bit old. Of course since witches were originally called "old crones"...

In any case, I have to agree that this spin off seems to be more "Post Madoka" than prequel. So I suspect that we'll have to hope to get the Walpurgis answers elsewhere.

Hagoshod 2011-03-18 19:32

Yes, let's turn the Junko Iwao character into a Magical Girl.

And then her Witch form can be Ophelia from Romeo x Juliet

Triple_R 2011-03-18 19:38

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Originally Posted by Sol Falling (Post 3530133)
Holy crap guys, did noone else notice yet? The black cat showed up in Kazumi Magica! My mind is currently being blown.

What exactly did the black cat do?

FatPianoBoy 2011-03-18 21:04

It walked around the house.

Sol Falling 2011-03-18 23:02

lol, indeed. It also seemingly disappeared off the top of Kazumi's head after she asked Umika what was for breakfast.

I am thus tentatively taking the black cat's role in both Kazumi and Madoka to simply be a red herring/mascot character, with no major plot impact. Yeah, even the revelation of that possibility was enough to blow my mind :P.

Kanon 2011-03-24 03:59

Spoiler:

Dark Wing 2011-03-24 09:42

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Originally Posted by Kanon (Post 3543081)
Spoiler:

I would appear that things just got a bit more interesting...

Snork 2011-03-24 10:17

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I'm betting Kazumi turns out to be Walpurgis Night whose with me?
No proof so far, but this has occured to me, too. (then, for good measure, let's make Oriko turn into Charlotte, shall we?)

Quote:

However, I do have a pet theory that Kazumi is a former Witch who was somehow turned back into a Magical Girl , and that this series is set Post-Madoka . Which means that we might be looking at the aftermath of Madoka's rewrite of reality .
sounds interesting, too. :)

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Why nobody seems to be suspecting of this girl?
um, no, my brain isn't quite working towards her. For all I know, Hitomi might be a more probable candidate in that aspect. Although considering the teacher's private life, I'm afraid she'd jump at the call the moment Kyuubey mentions wish-granting. :heh:

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And then her Witch form can be Ophelia from Romeo x Juliet
anooooooo... :heh:

Dark Wing 2011-04-21 16:11

With the way the anime series has ended we now know why things are so different here in the Kazumi Magica Manga. :heh:

So witches aren't the same kind of witches we're used too.

Myssa Rei 2011-04-22 00:15

We still have some problems placing where Kazumi Magica in the greater Madoka Magica universe. Why? We still have old-school witches running around with the post-wish grief-generated monsters, that's why.

Snork 2011-04-22 10:21

^ plus they are hinted to be more common. And complete with grief seeds. So far, nobody mentioned "Grief demons" or such.


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