Character discussion - Welkin
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So far... Like the guy. His airheaded attitude is both irritating and entertaining at the same time. And really surprised when he predicted the fog by the bird. As expected of Welkin! Even if the tank plan felt all or nothing.......
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Actually, both in the anime and game versions are so cool.
Nice job to Susumu Chiba and Dave Wittenberg. |
I prefer the Game and manga version of Welkin. At least in both of those adaptation he's serious and doesn't act like an idiot.
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If anything should against him it was that he was sort of a scaredy cat in the first 2 episodes. As for being an idiot he might say some questionable things from time to time (which he also does in the game), but thats not enough to merit someone as an idiot. |
chill.. I think what mr. terrorist wants to say is that welkin in the anime acts like an airhead. maybe he just chose the wrong word.. and there is also the word ACT. someone "acting" like an idiot it not necessarily and Idiot.
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Both versions have a knack for saying the wrong things at times and being oblivious to certain things around them. |
In the game Welkin volunteered straight up to fight the Imperial Scouts on the outskirts of Bruhl and once again when:
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In the anime to me so far he's being very cautious in how he gets involved in a war he doesn't want to be a part of which is understandable but I do prefer the game and manga versions myself. But I'm still going to give Welkin a chance here, we're not even a quarter of the way through the series yet so there's still hope for him to redeem himself to me. In Noce's words, if he hurts Alicia... I'll kill him. ;D |
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So far, I don't like him...:mad:
He's too carefree, too laid-back to be a squad commander. He needs to be more take-charge, more determined and more authoritative. I don't think I would follow a commander like him in a war. He should be traveling from place to place, looking at plants and animals instead of leading a military squad. I haven't played the game, so I can't make any comparison there, but so far in the anime his character is not very impressive. |
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Yet, to be fair, he did not want to be in the position forced upon him, that is none other than being a platoon leader. Yes, he'd much prefer to travel from place to place, looking at plants and animals instead of joining a military. Unfortunately, shit happens, and things you don't want to often come flying at you. But, just because he is laid back does not mean he isn't thinking. He has proven to be a good strategist, even if he had proven to be less-than-conventional. Of course, to me, a good commander is one who can have his men undergo difficulties while survive the ordeal. That is enough for me. - Tak (Yang Wen-Li, anyone?) |
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He's serious when he has to be, especially when he first met his squad. When it came to establishing his position as Squad leader, rather than wasting time arguing and flexing muscles, he went ahead and proved his worth as a commander to shut them up. Actions speak louder than words. And if it wasn't for his passion for animals and plants, he wouldn't be able to score his victory at Vasel bridge and this wouldn't be the first. So far he's demonstrated to be a capable leader that follows logic and is optimistic even when the situation looks grim. In fact, he should be optimistic because he's their commander, it's not good for a squad if your leader is freaking out and depressed. |
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As a character so far he is kind of "meh" to me... |
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However leaders that, in battle, can win the trust of their soldiers AND keep them alive AND snatch victory from nowhere; now they are truly special and inspirational. Especially when they don't look the part. It's like finding out that Mr Average Joe managed to circumnavigate the globe in a bath tub, so why can't you? Which is the kind of person Welkin is... in the game at least. He's showing signs of it so far in the anime, even if he's a bit more eccentric there than the game. |
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Moreover, a good inspirational leader is one that people could trust. While he might not appear to be your typical soldier, he has yet to fail his mates. If you say a leader is one that fills confidence, then he is certainly doing that part. So far, he has not led his platoon astray, and clearly his platoon has confidence in him and his ability to win battles. ... why is Valkyria suddenly giving me LoGH vibes? - Tak |
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I mean you got Hawk of Endymion, Ghost of Solomon, the red comet, all earned because each pilot performed admirably in those battles. |
Surprisingly enough, Welkin doesn't even get a nickname in the game. Or even a promotion. He just gets references to the blood of heroes running in the family.
Only the squad gets anything, and it's as cliche as they come and probably predicted by anyone who noticed the number of the squad. The "Lucky Sevens". >_> |
Yeah, even Gregor gets the nickname, "Demon of the Empire."
But really, you can't judge a book by its cover, Welkin can look dim at times but when needed he'll do what he can to pull through. |
funny enough, in the manga, they gave him a nickname.
I believe it was the "Blue Unicorn of Gallia" edit: oh wait. my mistake. that was the nickname given to his father. i guess he really doesn't have a nickname... |
I think his alias is "Gaillian Hero" or somthing along that line ..... It quite plain to me
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Yep. No promotion. No nickname. Just got thrown more and more into the thick of the war.
Hope he got a generous retirement package in the end! |
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And also what makes him a good comrade - no matter what rank - is he does not pull the "I am the officer and you have to follow my orders" attitude what most officer almost put into normal military duty. they have the right command you but rights of command always bears responsibility for their troops morale. |
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Ouch, that's a HUGE spoiler there.
Edit: had to emphasize how huge of a spoiler the previous post contained. |
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It was kinda obvious though :heh: Welkin gets annoying when he's oblivious but can get funny at the same time. |
Funny thing is, Welkin is extremely serious when he needs to be. His antics in the anime during times of battle is almost unseen in the game.
For example, Welkin had no hesitation when it became apparent that he needed to operate his father's tank, and rush to Alicia's aid. He is more socially awkward in the game than he is a complete dolt like his anime counterpart. Then again, they made Alicia a tsundere already, so... heh... - Tak |
The anime though can also spend a lot more time with Welkin outside of issues dealing with missions and battles so we get to see more of that side of him. But even with that his social awkwardness has gone up a few steps.
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I DEFINITELY like Welkin from the game better. Kind of disappointed with him in the anime in someways, but I know he'll get better as the series goes on.
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I hope teh anime will keep this:P |
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I really hope we see that too. It was epic IMO.
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Welkin's a biology grad right? He's a bio university grad who took a few courses in combat and so he gets to be military leader. I love how the world works. Actually this is exactly what North America was like pre 1950's i believe. Having a undergrad degree meant you could be hired for pretty much anything. Now having an undergrad degree like biology just means you wont get employed anywhere unless you know someone. That or you can work some minimum wage job if they even hire you.
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While Welkin isn't the most conventional of characters or soldiers, I'm not sure why anyone would have much against him. He may be a little goofy now and then, but he's actually quite capable, and he's already accomplished as much as most mecha protagonists do, and he did so without all the accompanying angst that's so prevalent. Heck, he's been even getting better with his tactics as they've getting less and less gimmicky.
I not drawn to any of the charcters in Valkyria Chronicle in particular, but Welkin is my favorite of the bunch so far. And that's even though his tank doesn't make any sense :p. Quote:
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dont get me wrong, i never bashed welkin. If anything im bashing the way things are now. Everyone has an undergrad degree now, having a bio or anthro degree is the equivalent of a toilet paper degree today. Not to mention the bio and anthro grads today are much more knowledgeable compared to past academics obviously. Another funny tidbit, bio & anthro degrees used to be 3yrs only now they are 4 yrs. I just sit in complete awe at what you could do with a degree back in the good ol' days. I never made a mistake really I clearly said pre-1950's so that still stands. I know a guy that had a degree in education in 1950. He went job hunting and when he applied to be a police man (despite no experience) they refused to make him one, instead they offered him to be the head of their police division. My mind explodes. |
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