Ore no Imouto - Character Discussion - Kirino
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I hope that by the time this anime ends, I will be able to understand what this title is supposed to mean...
My Sister Couldn't Be This Cute That because she is an otaku, she is cuter than he thought? But she couldn't be that cute? That the title is targeting the viewers and telling them real life sisters couldn't be this cute (which I would shout "Objection!" to)? Anyways, about how she could consider that outfit Suigintou... |
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I would think that most people would regard little sisters as annoying and irritating, but this anime was actually promotion family cohesion, starting with the younger sibling you never knew was that cute. |
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So the meaning would be: "This is my younger sister we're talking about! There's really no way she could possibly be *this* cute!" |
Imagine if Kirino will have a little sister soon :D
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It could just be a random guess, but I think the first episode gives a big hint what Kyousuke thinks of his sister being "cute". He basically sees Kirino as (like said) cold-hearted towards him, cruel to him, and very bossy. His idea of cute is possibly "kind, loving, nice to him" but thats just a silly speculation :heh:
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I figured the title just came from the dream he had in the beginning of the first episode, given that he was saying that exact sentence when his alarm went off and he woke up. Presented with the cute moe-moe little sister in the dream he insisted that HIS sister could not possibly be that cute. It shows that his personal view of Kirino is very different from what he considers to be the "moe imouto" character type.
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I think that Kyousuke's view is different before he return Kirino's eroge and after he knew his sister is an otaku. Maybe the "cute" part just flashed in his head right after it.
But having a cute sister isn't wrong, is it?:love: |
Ah well, Kirino is definitely the tsundere type. Just a little sister can be, she's also...kinda spoiled in a way and somewhat acting childish despite producing an "adult" like atmosphere.
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Tsundere? Of course not!
She is more of a "what if Saki Kasukabe became an otaku" type. We can't consider it a tsundere because she is not cute inside... |
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But yeah, like was said before Kyousuke views Kirino as rather cold (at least towards him) so he doesn't consider her very cute. Sure, she may look cute, but her attitude towards her brother certainly isn't. I'm sure over the course of the series she'll open up to him more and show that she does have a cute side. The title is then showcasing Kyousuke's denial/disbelief about it. It's hard letting go of preconcieved notions :heh: |
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Kirino Bio from novel:
Age: 14 Height: 165cm Weight: 45kg B/W/H: 82/54/81 (cm) A fashionable middle schooler with dyed hair and ear pierce, treats her older brother Kyosuke with slight. |
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Honestly I'm really underwhelmed by the discussion in here so far. Is she tsundere? Is she cute? Talk about not seeing the forest for the trees. How about looking at Kirino as something other than yet another pile of fucking moe points? She's stuck in a family situation that's less than stellar. Her father doesn't show any sign or sense of connection to his wife and kids, her mother (despite trying to create a semblance of familial unity) basically just gets overridden by her father, and her brother (until the series began) seemed to be perfectly content to just coast through life. They may as well be four strangers who happen to live under the same roof because they sure as hell aren't much of a family. So she turns to a hobby that, in turn, becomes an obsession, but now she's on the verge of alienating herself even further due to the stigma that otaku have in Japanese society. She is a teenage girl at a very critical stage in her life. She knows she's not "normal" but she doesn't know what to do about it aside from continuing to immerse herself in the content of her fandom. So she plays a very delicate balancing game to try and maintain her outward appearance, but eventually your lies catch up to you. She's just fortunate it was Kyousuke who found her out first, as he's so far been willing to accept her for who/what she is and help her try to deal with her otaku status in a healthier way. Kirino also, so far, represents a good commentary on fandoms of any kind, not just anime/manga/games. Fandom of anything can be a great tool to bring people together who normally would never even meet, case in point Kirino and Kuroneko. Fandom can also be incredibly ugly when used as a way to segregate people from each other, which is sadly what is most often the case. And not just from those on the outside of the fandom, but also from within. How many otaku out there revel in the fact that they're not "part of normal society" after all? Furthermore, as an anime otaku Kirino has it particularly rough. These days many kinds of fandom are socially acceptable; even video gaming is fashionable these days albeit only to a degree. Anime otaku, however, have a major image issue that has been perpetuated by Japanese media at just about every level. So Kirino has to maintain this facade of a "normal" life or face being ostracized at school and possibly even at home by her parents (her father in particular). Once again it's fortunate Kyousuke is the one helping her come to terms with things. He's no kind of anime or game fan himself, but he is at least making an attempt to understand her and her hobby so he can help her adjust better. So many people don't even try to understand other hobbies or fandom; they merely label it and use that to classify people. But I digress. Does Kirino have an attractive character design? Of course she does. How many anime characters these days don't? But there's more to her character and personality than any of the idiotic tropes and moe points you guys seem so keen to try and use to classify her with so far. |
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Now I do think you were too harsh there. For some people the how a character acts now described by those "tropes and moe points" is more important. And it's their right to think so. |
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Yeah, father is just a stereotypical Asain father. They tend to leave household matter to the wife and only act or comment when something is wrong. They also tends to be strict on the outside but fluffy inside and in their father's case, his work is also part of the reason for his attitude. [don't want to spoil here at least until next episode which I suspect will answer all these questions anyway]
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What the frick? Holy cow is Kirino tall... She's only 5cm shorter than Kyousuke.
Wait, but that wouldn't make any sense. If Kirino is 165 and she's a 14 year-old Japanese girl?... Sigh... Wish I was taller. >.> |
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Don't worry, already in Ancient Egypt there were small people, so you're in good company there ;) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ife_statue.jpg |
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can anyone imagine on what happens if Kirino had a little sister? :uhoh:
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He's already starting to realise just how cute she is... and that's just the beginning. |
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Well, it was when Kirino finally made him realize that she finally accepts him as a brother "Aniki" that he is starting to see the cute side :p |
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I wouldn't mind seeing her with her natural hair colour (brown, right?) sometime.
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It's not too late, Kirino can get close to Kuroneko and steal her sister. Or take Kuroneko as a younger sister and have two imoutos... That would be her dream (or at least her game indicate so) |
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But I really did wish they put Kirino's face in the LN version and placed it in the Anime, instead of the Tsundere look :( She was very cute in the LN version. (does this count as talking about something other then the anime?) |
If there's one thing they portray right and we're all familiar with, it's how some teenagers like to wear flashy clothes, dye their hair and paint their fingernails. And how they swear that 'expresses' who they are. While I personally believe they must really be boring as a person and desperate to make themselves unique to have to let some fabrics define them, if she's paying for it with her own money it should be fine.
Their father is actually among the more sensible ones that still try to take an active role in their kids' education and know when to step down (at least better than those who ignore their kids all in the good name of liberty). As he saw them try to defend their hobby he must have somewhat realized they are now grown-up and should take some responsibility for their own actions, and conceded even though he doesn't exactly approve of it. He still loves his daughter even if she didn't listen to his advice and dyed her hair. As of ep 3 I find him actually more realistic and likable than the titular heroine, who is in my admittedly biased opinion the very definition of superficiality (both in her choice of clothing and her approach to anime), but luckily harmless. |
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In more absolute terms, he's hardly sensible at all, the way he does an interrogation with Kirino over such a harmless matter. While he still might care *a little bit* about Kirino (but certainly not more), he's not even remotely sensible with Kyousuke. Don't try to tell me he even gives the slightest damn about Kyousuke, he eventually even punches him. |
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You can't say he wasn't sensible in his interrogation of +18 material in his 14 year old daughter's possession, I would think it more insensible if he didn't. and the thing with Kyousuke, while the punch may have been a bit much, I'd go with yea he had enough reason to do so, just whether or not one wants to say it was a good enough reason. |
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The reaction he gave when Kyousuke showed the family album was sorta telling what he thinks. He just cares about his family to much to not let their minds get corrupted over things that taint the majority of people's minds today (Coming from his perspective) But the Kyousuke punch was sorta off... He just dint like how Kyousuke was way into the +18 games possibly? |
Did Kirino friend in school found out that Kirino is otaku?If yes did they remain friend with Kirino or they avoid her initially?
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I might not know where you come from, but a game about incest that has depicted child porn (not including what else might be in that game) is somewhat ... controversial and outright illegal in many places. And it's clearly R18 material. Playing it is arguably not unethical, but you can hardly call it harmless stuff for a minor.
In East Asian families, if you notice, filial piety has always been an important concept. While Kyousuke might be commended for having the balls, does he really have to shout all the time and even threaten his own father with physical violence ? Is that how you persuade your dad? Is that how people get their point across these days ? Assuming it's somewhat effective, the father is fully justified to ask Kyousuke to show some proper respect. But he didn't, he kept the stoic face and listened to what his loud-mouthed kid had to say, that's what surprised me the most because he was supposed to be the old-fashioned type. Only when Kyousuke tried to make a horrible lie and decided to be shameless about it in the most annoying way (while never turning down his volume), did the father reach his limit, punch him and give up altogether. Judge for yourself whether he cares. |
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You can tell by Kirino's reaction and answers when Ayase asked her if she was free. Though I personally don't think that Ayase would stop being friends with her if Kirino told her about it or even if Ayase found out by accident. Quote:
To make his dad take notice and fully understand and partially accept what he is talking about, he has to scream like that. Well, that he grabbed his father physically is debatable but it proved to be effective and it was rather intentional than out of anger or not knowing what to do, he also expected getting punched. Or at least he didn't not expect it. If it was his mom, he probably wouldn't have to scream as much. His father is indeed the old-fashioned type but at the same time he is in my eyes also trying to tolerate the next generation's view of things which is very good. My father is actually similar to that (Chinese family). Though I don't exactly get hit, he can still threatens to in certain situations. |
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