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monir

2013-11-05 08:13

Log Horizon - FanFiction Discussion

Welcome to the Log Horizon FanFiction Discussion thread.

This thread is meant for Log Horizon fanfiction and its discussion. Fanfiction works can be either posted in this thread or in the Fan Creations Forum and linked to in this thread. You may also link to Fanfiction works posted on other sites and discuss it here.

General rules of our forum still apply:

No sexually explicit material. Yes, this goes for text format as well.
Be polite to your fellow forum members
Have fun, but post intelligently

Please respect the authors, fanfictions are written in their free time, they have have no gain and owe you nothing; if they like a particular character and/or a particular pattern for their story, it's a personal choice and can't be blamed. In general, you are free to post constructive criticisms but not insults which (as in any other part of the forums) won't be tolerated. Remember that writers post here to get help and not to get troubles.

Thanks and have fun :)

MeisterBabylon

2013-11-06 03:58

I was happily writing when I realized I have no idea what a Mechanic does. :/

Forgive me if the canon profession is nothing like I depict...!

Myssa Rei

2013-11-06 21:10

It bears mentioning that Mamare welcomes fanfiction, as really good ones ones get a chance to be used as actual setting-info for the series.

So if you sell the idea that this is how the Mechanic works in your fanfiction well enough, then Mamare might shrug, say "well that works", and include it in the Log Horizon canon.

Benigmatica

2013-11-07 07:18

Say, is blackpowder firearms allowed too? Upon looking at the races in Elder Tale, I was thinking of dwarves making muskets and cannons if they have artisans as their sub-class.

Keroko

2013-11-07 12:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benigmatica (Post 4900029)

Say, is blackpowder firearms allowed too? Upon looking at the races in Elder Tale, I was thinking of dwarves making muskets and cannons if they have artisans as their sub-class.

We did see one guy with a cannon arm in Demikas's army, so it seems to be possible.

Sheba

2013-11-07 12:40

I figure out that firearms are a little more widespread in european and american servers. At least up to flintlock muskets.

Keroko

2013-11-07 13:03

I believe the author was also considering cowboys for the American servers, which would mean revolvers.

darksassin

2013-11-07 18:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myssa Rei (Post 4899531)

Will he accept English submitted fanwork though?

Xacual

2013-11-07 19:19

He accepts people asking him questions in english on his twitter, don't know why he wouldn't accept english fan suggestions.

Keroko

2013-11-08 04:25

A full English work might be a tad difficult for him to read, but the shot never fired always misses.

Chaos2Frozen

2013-11-08 04:32

Hmmm... Rather than calling them cowboys, why not "Gunslinger" ? It sounds more gender neutral and it's still technically the same thing.

Have it replaced the 'bard' as a proper archer class for the NA servers.

Keroko

2013-11-08 05:01

So much like Kannagi being called shinto priests/miko by the players, the official term is gunslinger, but the players call them cowboys/cowgirls?

Yeah, that sounds good. Though the loss of the bard class saddens me. Perhaps we can fuse the two? With gunslingers being ranged-centered bards?

Estavali

2013-11-08 05:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen (Post 4901111)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keroko (Post 4901135)

One thing to consider about replacing the Bard with Gunslinger is that the Bard is mainly a support character not too unlike the Enchanter. The permanent support song is perhaps her main feature, supportive skills that remain in effect until switch with another. A Bard can learn up to 15 such songs, of which 10 are already available to even characters below level 30, and can have two supportive songs up at the same time. In other words, the Paladin's Auras from Diablo 2, with a musical theme. Replacing such an interesting support class just to have a pure ranged attacker is imho a great pity.

In terms of ranged attackers, the Assassin can in fact fill in that role pretty well. There's in fact a ranged Assassin in Marielle's Crescent Moon Alliance (the Foxtail fellow with the crossbow) and the spin-off manga Honey Moon Log once showed him using a ranged Assassinate.

I would say that if the Gunslinger is to replace any class, it should be the Assassin instead of the Bard. Or even the Swashbuckler: we can have the 'Slinger deal ranged damage that comes with anomalies (FFA Gunner with more firepower) and dual-wielding gunners at the same time :D

Or easiest of all, just add Gunslinger to the list of subclasses. Now you can be both at the same time :D

Btw, I once read from the PTT bulletin board that Mamare has planned the Pirate and the Medium/Spirit-talker for the American servers. Can anyone help confirm this? =D

Chaos2Frozen

2013-11-08 06:29

Hmmm... so bard is really fundamentally different from a range non magic dps huh....

Keroko

2013-11-08 06:37

Vastly so. Assassin and swashbuckler are far more likely candidates for this.

Perhaps we should think of it less as making an entirely new class, and more as builds. We already know assassins can make ranged builds, for example. A dual-wielding swashbuckler with two pistols that debuff targets? That sounds like an excellent build for people to take.

MeisterBabylon

2013-11-08 07:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myssa Rei (Post 4899531)

That will never work. For one, I'm doing a scene by scene gig exploring little aspects of Log Hora, rather than a continuous story.

Next, my writing is terrible. :uhoh:

The title of my fic is tentatively [The Daily Lives of Elder Tales Players] :uhoh::uhoh:

Lastly, I'm basically writing about a Cleric/Warpriest "Engineer" who is trapped with a fellow female Frost/Fire Enchanter Pharmacist in Log Hora. The twist? They are married IRL, and are older players. :heh:

But... Somehow I've been inspired to try. :uhoh:

*better get the balance right...!*

Estavali

2013-11-08 09:29

Enchanters don't conquer Fire and Ice, my dear chap, nor are they offensive-inclined. The class you want is the Sorcerer: http://lh.oksub.me/wiki/Sorcerer

Gan_HOPE326

2013-11-08 09:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Estavali (Post 4901159)

Hmmm, maybe what we can do is just carry on as usual, as in come up with ideas, work on them and post them here for all to read. We can at the same time ask someone with good Nihongo to tell Mamare about Animesuki's LogHora community.

”橙乃先生～”　
”？”　
”これ見て～”
*adds link*.

In other words, just notify him about this horde of crazy people over here that like (or might not really like but still like to argue over) LogHora. Whether he will come over or not is up to him, but at least the awareness would be there =3

One thing to consider about replacing the Bard with Gunslinger is that the Bard is mainly a support character not too unlike the Enchanter. The permanent support song is perhaps her main feature, supportive skills that remain in effect until switch with another. A Bard can learn up to 15 such songs, of which 10 are already available to even characters below level 30, and can have two supportive songs up at the same time. In other words, the Paladin's Auras from Diablo 2, with a musical theme. Replacing such an interesting support class just to have a pure ranged attacker is imho a great pity.

In terms of ranged attackers, the Assassin can in fact fill in that role pretty well. There's in fact a ranged Assassin in Marielle's Crescent Moon Alliance (the Foxtail fellow with the crossbow) and the spin-off manga Honey Moon Log once showed him using a ranged Assassinate.

I would say that if the Gunslinger is to replace any class, it should be the Assassin instead of the Bard. Or even the Swashbuckler: we can have the 'Slinger deal ranged damage that comes with anomalies (FFA Gunner with more firepower) and dual-wielding gunners at the same time :D

Or easiest of all, just add Gunslinger to the list of subclasses. Now you can be both at the same time :D

Btw, I once read from the PTT bulletin board that Mamare has planned the Pirate and the Medium/Spirit-talker for the American servers. Can anyone help confirm this? =D

So would instead an hypothetical Cowboy don a mightily inspiring banjo and help his companions with the power of country music :heh:?

Neki Ecko

2013-11-08 10:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gan_HOPE326 (Post 4901328)

So would instead an hypothetical Cowboy don a mightily inspiring banjo and help his companions with the power of country music :heh:?

Or a wanna-be cowboy that shoots out bullets of magic or mana out of his gun (I know its copy from some other animes like Black Cat and Trigun:twitch:).

I know that new sub-classes could be made like Explorer, Wicca (Witch/Warlock), and others.

I had one idea about what is going on the NA servers with a trio of a Monk (Explorer), Cleric (Teasure Hunter) and Sorcerer (who thinks that she/he is a witch), but I suck writing these things.

Chaos2Frozen

2013-11-08 11:30

Hmmm I seem to recall that you can have a "vampire" subclass, but wouldn't that be unchangeable :heh: ?

Keroko

2013-11-08 11:39

Vampirism can be curable, depending on the game.

MeisterBabylon

2013-11-08 22:32

Pretty sure if you became a vampire subclass you don't want it to be cured.

After pounding out some ideas, I do realize I made quite a few mistakes. :heh:

But [The Daily Lives of Elder Tales Players] remain on track. :3

Benigmatica

2013-11-09 02:54

How about putting vampires as one of the races.

Or if this is allowed, how about putting bonus dungeons/worlds based on Mamare's work like Maoyu.

MeisterBabylon

2013-11-09 03:57

Here's some food for thought: If enough players took the different non-combat roleplaying and profession subclasses, they would theoretically be able to build a player town and kickstart a player-run economy. :eek:

Vampires are a confirmed subclass though, so I'd rather not subvert.

Your other idea has merit. Considering that my fic focuses on a player being a shop owner catering to NPCs and players in player town, she needs to hire other players to raid dungeons for her. Adding those Maoyuu dungeons would be a sweet idea!! :D

Xacual

2013-11-09 04:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeisterBabylon (Post 4902225)

There are player towns though, Akiba is the biggest one in Japan server, or do you mean players going out and actually constructing a town out in the "wilderness".

MeisterBabylon

2013-11-09 05:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xacual (Post 4902247)

There are player towns though, Akiba is the biggest one in Japan server, or do you mean players going out and actually constructing a town out in the "wilderness".

Akiba would be the equivalent of HighSec. That one has all the major guilds and some crazy brilliance Shiroe pulls.

Yes, I'm talking about a player who does a legendary quest to acquire a Deed to the Land, making his subclass a Feudal Lord and the right to establish a town in 0.4 or even lower if he dares. I reckon these wild places have far better resources or hidden treasures or special places of interest nearby, hence the draw to go set up shop out there. A town in the wild is also open to commerce for players travelling around the area. Being in the town lets non-PK players make use of the town's defences while they are there.

But while you can set up a shrine/jinja/church/cathedral in the town for players living in the town to respawn (PKers respawn back at a major city like Akiba, or a graveyard in their own town), there is no sanctuary anywhere. IE if PKers manage to break into the town, they are free to pvp, rape, kill and loot everything in sight, or if they are nicer, just extort them.

Sometimes, players can just ambush convoys going to and from the city, which may choke supplies coming to the wild town. All these activities then creates a demand for mercenaries to work for these towns too.

This is all in my headcanon though. But a really fun premise to play with. My character, a summoner/merchant, spawns inside her shop, the Fletch's Tear Trading Post, in one such town. I haven't placed it yet, but its along the coast of the Sea of Japan. The story then revolves around her and the people who live and trade in that town. Already, the story is writing itself and more to come as I read through EVE Online's history for more inspiration... :uhoh:

Keroko

2013-11-09 06:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeisterBabylon (Post 4902294)

Akiba would be the equivalent of Zero-Sec. That one has all the major guilds and some crazy brilliance Shiroe pulls.

Akiba, being protected by the guard, is the very polar opposite of null-sec.

MeisterBabylon

2013-11-09 06:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keroko (Post 4902331)

Akiba, being protected by the guard, is the very polar opposite of null-sec.

*faceslap*

Of course. I meant HighSec. :eyespin:

MeisterBabylon

2013-11-15 21:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Estavali (Post 4905404)

There's a Google doc with a number of subclass listed but it's a mixture of official settings, fanwork and stuff that Mamare has planned to use but has yet been included in any official work. Still it's a good place to start, methinks =3

Link: Touch me gently~

Black = Official
Red = Unofficial
Blue = Have been used in fanwork + to-be-used stuff

Nothing yells STOP THE PRESS like a friggin manual from Creator-kun himself. :twitch:

I better wait for this to get translated, or else <<Of Pence>> will get even more derailed than the US government!

HasuMasu

2013-11-16 11:16

I'm trying to iron out something, and in typical Box fashion it will be as grimdark as possible.

There's a black hole of information, so I'll have to call on my old mmo and rpg self.

I tried to get a <<Rider>> Secondary Class together, but what I got was too imba.

Hmm~ I wonder how far a <<Sailor>> can go...

Keroko

2013-11-16 11:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masuzu (Post 4910593)

I tried to get a <<Rider>> Secondary Class together, but what I got was too imba.

Lay out your plans, we'll keep hammering until it works.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masuzu (Post 4910593)

Hmm~ I wonder how far a <<Sailor>> can go...

You mean as in how far they can sail? There's no stated limitation, so to the other end of the world if they wanted to.

Careful of the sea monsters though.

HasuMasu

2013-11-16 11:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keroko

Lay out your plans, we'll keep hammering until it works.

The <<Rider>> can choose to <<Ride>> anything deemed as ride-able.

There is a certain chance of success based on percentage of hp left and level; which makes it a lot like catching Pokemon.

Raising the class proficiency raises the <<Success Rate>>

It doesn't sound too bad, but even a level 1 has a very very small chance of success in riding a dragon...

You can only mark three at a time. The oldest one will become wild again if you <<Ride>> a fourth.

They're done if they're dead.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keroko

You mean as in how far they can sail? There's no stated limitation, so to the other end of the world if they wanted to.

I know it's doable, but not without a bit more conjecture than comfortable for fanfiction.

Estavali

2013-11-16 11:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masuzu (Post 4910593)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keroko (Post 4910599)

Lay out your plans, we'll keep hammering until it works.

You mean as in how far they can sail? There's no stated limitation, so to the other end of the world if they wanted to.

Careful of the sea monsters though.

Maybe you could set distance limits at least according to the <Sailor's> level. Maybe like, a meter off shore per level from 1~10 and then increase the increments stage by stage, until s/he reaches the "no distance limit" stage at level 90 =3

And methinks being a Summoner would help on calm days too XD

HasuMasu

2013-11-16 11:37

The wiki says <<Fisherman>> also has the title of <<Slayer>> for aquatic-type at least.

You probably don't need an entire boat full of <<Sailors>>.

Most of them could be <<Fishermen>> and <<Chefs>> or <<Housekeepers>>.

Keroko

2013-11-16 12:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masuzu (Post 4910607)

I don't quite see how this is OP yet. It's like a variation of Animal Trainer.

HasuMasu

2013-11-17 01:44

I thought it was like <<Beast Tamer>> as well, but there's a lot of room for abuse when you have a chance to <<Ride>> almost anything at any level.

Keroko

2013-11-17 05:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masuzu (Post 4911424)

I thought it was like <<Beast Tamer>> as well, but there's a lot of room for abuse when you have a chance to <<Ride>> almost anything at any level.

Simple solution: Make it scale with level and give it a time limit to use.

HasuMasu

2013-11-17 07:10

Right. I forgot mobs have levels...

Fireminer

2013-11-20 04:31

Please tell what you're good at: http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=123033

DQueenie13

2013-11-27 00:36

I must say, I honestly never expected to find ShiroexIsaac fanfics ... and especially not before episode 9. But it's happened.

How did I even find that. Ah, well. I'm too bored of homework, I must be desperate to actually find something like this and share it.

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