Re:Zero - Character Discussion - Emilia
 

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Going around social media and other forums, there are lots of misconception regarding Emilia lol.

Anime won't go past arc 3, and probably's not going to have another season. So more backstories about Emilia won't be revealed. Most people won't have a chance to know more about her. That's pretty sad.

Why do you think it won't get another season? Re:Zero is doing well in preorder sales estimates (for Blu-Rays) last I checked. The anime itself will likely be a good commercial success.

Re:Zero is made by White Fox. White Fox is a fairly new anime studio, but they have shown a willingness to do sequels (two separate seasons of GochiUsa).

Just to keep this post on topic - I like Emilia's character design. Very elegant and stylish. She also came off very well in her first appearance in Episode 1.

I like design for Emilia the most and as a character as well. If it turns out she's not the main girl, I'm dropping this like a hot potato.

She is if you're worried about that, but the plot requires her to takeback seat here because the narrative follows Subaru.

I like Crusch more than Emilia.

Re:zero has the same problem as OPM: The series catched-up with the commercial source material. The LN currently is at 9 novels which correspond to the end of Arc 3. Yes, the web source is already further away, but adapting rough material give no merit commercially.

I am sure this will get sequel, but not soon. Gotta wait a bit to let the LN content build up. I forecast it will come up in 3 years.

AFAIK, White Fox got no calls on deciding sequel. If anything, it shows the trust of the stakeholder to White Fox.

I actually like what the author doing here. There is tendency to feature the main heroine most of the time in LNs, so letting her get back a bit here and let the story flow is nice.

Emilia is very dull with no development. This arc is very Rem focused just like the last arc, I dunno how they gonna squeeze in development for Emilia to make it where she's worth empathizing with.

We haven't seen much of her in the anime other than the "heroine" persona, so it's hard to feel any sympathy besides her design and what little she did in the series so far. Sure, she's a good person with a great sense of justice, but that is as generic as they go. Without any sort of background arc or something like that, she'll continue to be just "the heroine".

Maybe I'm just weird, but I never required hours upon hours of exposure before I actually was able to care for a character. A lot of their worth can be inferred through their interactions with characters we do know and empathize with, for example.

Also, on the flipside, it's hard to call someone shallow if you've been exposed to them so little. In a show with so many characters, that'd be almost unfair.

I'd also hardly call this arc Rem-focused since it did nothing but reaffirm things about her that were already established. She has a strong sense of loyalty, which is pretty much her shtick. There's nothing else you can say about her, really.

Yes, so sad and so true.

But actually I appreciate Emilia already in these three arc a lot, she was already my favorite character before I know other things.; and if it isn't for her in arc 1, I wouldn't have approached this series.
So, well, hope that in a few years there will be a S2, meanwhile we can only read.

Besides, I don't like that someone (not here, on other sites) to cheer Rem should insult her.

I agree. It's rather short-sighted to call a character shallow due lack of screentime or fact they possess some common character traits. Outside of being more fleshed out it's not as if Rem is unique in that regard either and I still like her a lot regardless. In fact if one hasn't noticed Rem (and Ram to lesser extent) are the only characters we know everyting about besides Subaru himself (also to a somewhat lesser degree) simply because she is the only one Subaru has won over completely. For everyone else's Subaru is still viewed either a friend, co-worker or aquntiance even if he's closer to them then they are to him due to loops.

Emilia has demostrate a decent amount of characterization even if we haven't gotten in depth with her, but those are spread throughout the episodes. And think it's pretty obivious you will learn more about her like with Rem when the that time comes as it is not as if this is the end of story. Same for every character honestly.

I also don't know what being just "heroine" is supposed to mean since last I check it just position not personality trait. Heronines in anime are extremely varied to begin (hotheaded, dizzy, kuuderes, yanderes etc) there no such thing as a generic template their all adhere too.

Thanks. In a way it looks like he wanted to please the fanboys and go for hafu hafu or something.

That would make the character more like supporting than main. (When I watch dramas and this happens, I start to wonder what is the main dish and what is the side dish.) But that is only because I'm getting a little bored with the death gimmicks and sadistic torturing on main boy Subaru. I realized the great world building outside of the loops I wanted to see isn't all that great after all. :heh:

Many people spoke the same concern like you. When Tappei is asked why is Rem far more popular than Emilia, his answer is pretty much "there road are still long, there are plenty of time for Emilia to become Heroine. Deal with it". What a cheeky guy. :heh:

Tappei is obviously playing a long game with Emilia, which unfortunately won't be covered in the anime.

The author said in a Q/A that he has everything to ending planned out and at the point the WN is at (arc 6) the story currently halfway. That is definitely a good sign of somebody who is control of his plot and everything in it. I think Rem's presence is being overselled a bit. It's not unusual for secondary characters get in limelight for while depending on the circumstances, and her popluarity is unlikely effect the course of the plot. At the end of day she just happened to be fleshed a little earlier then everyone else because her past has the least connection to overall narrative which makes her easier to talk about.

That still means that he needs to do quite a lot to make Emilia likeable for a lot of people.

I watch the anime for Subaru and Emilia so I'll deal and drop it. This type of fading in and out isn't for me.

Not really, because she pretty likable as it is, even some other characters might be more likable. We just need to get to her character arc to learn more about her. That said, if one insist on disliking Emilia than her development won't matter to them anyway. You can't reason with that.

Yes, perhaps we're not that far away from the beginning of it, in my opinion. This part of the series (arc 3) perhaps serves as a basis for the setting of world, the development of her and the relationship with Subaru. A second season would help ? I think yes. So let's keep our fingers crossed.

Speculah as an anime-only viewer:

AWTS! i really hate when subaru dies

Episode 17 suggests that Emilia needs to overcome these "ordeals" to what?

I hope Emilia gets some good moments in the rest of the show. I thought this arc would be more focused on her....and it is, but it isn't. Her existence matters to this arc, but she's not around Subaru for much of it.
It is odd that it appears this cult is trying to...test her? But testing her in a way that they have no issue if she actually dies. Apparently they are very set on making it a legitimate trial.

Nothing more frustrating than a group that makes your life hell and even if you win...they'll probably be happy about it.

The more I look at her, the more I feel Emilia is Subaru's mom instead of love interest :heh:

Am I the only one that feels that Emilia is more of a plot device than a character?

I'll be the first to admit that she hasn't gotten much development. We've learned very little about her.

Little is an overstatement, I'm pretty sure the exact number of times she had development is 0.

I think Emilia is just there to move the plot along. All the bad things is centered around her, and if Subaru wasn't gunning for her, the plot wouldn't move. She can be a lamp post and the story wouldn't change.

Well, if you want to be pedantic about it a large part of episodes 1a and 1b were about her character, specifically the parts that made Subaru fall in love with her (selflessness in particular.) Her development has been peppered out since then (beginning of arc2, begining of arc 3) but it's clearly there. So sporadic? yes. Zero? hardly.

She's a nice girl and... that's it, that's all they've established, development means progression of character, she's had none.

She doesn't even like Subaru, she doesn't try to listen to him, try to understand him or anything. She's extremely selfish, she's doesn't try to understand the "why" instead she's focused on the fact that Subaru didn't listen to her.

Development means progress in the eyes of the audience. A character doesn't have to change to develop. Showing the audience her nature that we didn't know before is development.

She does like him. She was perfectly willing to hear him out and that didn't end well for her.

From the anime thread.

I mean development as in character exposition more than character progression. Just getting definitions out of the way.

Other than that, as they say communication is a two way road. Paraphrasing Emilia herself: "The Emilia inside you must be a great person. She can understand you without you needing to explain anything to her." Granted, she is flawed, but so are all the characters in this series or in real life. For Subaru Emilia is still the person who saved him when he most needed it without asking anything for return and sometimes to her own detriment. We saw this episode how powerful those facts can be when moving someone's heart.

Go back and watch the scene when Subaru was talking to Emilia in the capital after he got his ass kicked in the duel. She tried to understand him so much that she cut off ties with him.

So if Emilia is selfish, why did she stop to help him and various other people out when they met out in arc 1, despite the fact that she was in a rush to find her missing insignia?

If she doesn't try to understand or listen to him, how was she able to see through the mask he was wearing in the mansion and help him out by giving him that lap pillow?

She has tried to listen to him in this arc too, though Subaru only paid back her kindness by breaking their promises, lying to her, and expecting her to just shut up and do whatever he says. The one time he was able to explain everything to her, it didn't end well.

I don't know where you got this whole Emilia is selfish and only cares about herself idea from.

Oh I dunno, maybe the "yeah you're right, you did help me out a lot, let me repay it, bye bitch"

Being nice doesn't mean you're selfless, she has an agenda for Subaru. She even muttered under her breath that she had expectations of him and was disappointed. Meaning she's probably trying to use him for whatever purpose.

Pretty sure saving him from a mugging isn't his lowest low... In this current arc. He needed it most, and she turned her back on him only to drive him further into insanity.

Who was it that understood Subaru the best, who's love brought him back from insanity? sure as hell not Emilia.

Sorry I wasn't clear, I was referencing her helping him get up during the 5th loop in arc 2, although when I said to her own detriment I did mean arc 1 ep 1. My bad.

Well said. Subaru ulitmately pushed Emilia away, by not being honest with her and putting on airs and never bother really didn't see things from her perspective. Part of that of course had to do with his mismatched expriences with her thanks to RbD (which came to bitehim back in the ass numerous times).

Huh no, the problem is that Subaru is trying to help Emilia in such destructive manner that she considered cutting ties to make him stop. Note she put a huge emphasis that he shouldn't push himself like that, but he did that countless times.
The way how Subaru acted was definitely enough for her to call him out.

No, she was expecting Subaru to treat her "normally". The way how Subaru acted with her in arc 1 and arc 3 are completely different. In Arc 3, Subaru was recklessly trying to put Emilia on a pedestal without even considering what she wanted him to do. Subaru never listened to her and had his way which lead to the multiple humiliations he got.

Every time she had the occasion, Emilia asked Subaru the reason for his actions. Even when he challenged Julius despite their promise, she wanted to know his reason instead of condemning him immediately for breaking their promise.

Emilia already stated that the expectation she had for Subaru was that he would treat her like a normal girl. She didn't want to be put on a pedestal (which he does) or be hated because she resembles Satella, she just wanted someone that would be her friend and treat her normally.

This. I still do not get why Rem can not be the best girl and a character to be praised from the fans if she does not end up with the MC..lol. No need to hate Emilia for that. Shipping wars are so weird :heh: