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MarthX
2007-09-06 15:35
Finished watching it on Nicovideo. I expected it to go further but the end of the episode really got my adrenaline pumping. This arc may last nine episodes instead of my original prediction, eight.
Klashikari
2007-09-06 15:47
same ol' drill: rather inaccurate, and bullet points
Spoiler for PART A:
Keiichi and everyone else (with Irie) are with the village council, and they are talking about Satoko. Mion asks him to leave out, as she has something to tell him. outside, the principal and Chie-sensei are waiting for him. Chie asks him if they will go on lobby again and if it will be the last time. the problem is that they can leave the school like this.
Keiichi wonders why there is a grudge for the Houjou while it isn't the dam war anymore. But Mion says it appears it isn't a grudge anymore. Shion agrees. She thinks it is because they need a scapegoat for the incidents.
Mion comments as well that Oryou doesn't know if they should forgive the Houjour or not, but it is deep down rooted in the village. Shion concludes it is about the Curse of Oyashiro-sama. But Rika says Oyashiro-sama doesn't curse Satoko, it is the opposite, as it thinks her cute.
Keiichi decides to go all out, and gets back in the council room, walking without any hesitation to Kimiyoshi and get past to him. Keiichi says that everyone knows about what Satoko is enduring all this time, but yet, no one bothers to help her. The men in the room are turning their head by embarassement, and Kimiyoshi tells him that they already talk enough about this. However, Keiichi goes angry, and asks how it is enough. Kimiyoshi explains it is from the past due the dam war. Keiichi goes KOOL and stomps on the table, saying it isn't related to the dam war, and goes all out.
The men are outraged about his reaction, and Kimiyoshi comments again about the auction. Shion says she knows about it, and begin to cites numerous things, which puts him in a pinch.
Rena and Rika concludes about the auction, which makes runs discussion accross the room, while kimiyoshi is speechless.
Keiichi gives again some speech, and remind them about the Hinamizawa Slogan (if you get hit, 2 people will throw rocks. if they are 2, 4 will come. if they are 1000, the whole village will stand against them), before telling them that Satoko is their comrade, and they want to save her from there, so he is asking them to lend their power to him.
The men in the councelin room agree with him, and stand up.
Kimiyoshi is perturbed and can't help it. Rika comments that kimiyoshi didn't harbored grudge against the houjou either.
Keiichi then thinks the only problem will be the sonozaki. Kimiyoshi asks Mion if it will be alright/how it will go. She says that they will fight against her. Keiichi then asks a favor to Kimiyoshi if he can accompany them when they will confront Oryou, as he will lend his power to them. Kimiyoshi accepts, but is still concerned about it. Rena says it is alright and count on Keiichi.
Rika comments again about how they will go front against fate.
The group with Kimiyoshi and Irie are in seiza in oryou's room. Kimiyoshi did a summary about their request. However, it appears Oryou is completely indifferent about the case. Rika tells her that Satoko is her friend, so she asks help. Oryou says again that it doesn't exactly matter if it is her friend. Keiichi approach a bit, but still stay in seiza. Keiichi is calm and polite, and resume his request. Akane (Mion and Shion's mother) comments the Sonozaki are influencing the whole Shishibone city. Keiichi then wonders about Satoko being left like this. Shion and Keiichi resume their request to Oryou. She then asks "what will you do if i refuse?"
Keiichi then claims Mion will take her place and will do this. (absolutely not sure)
Oryou is angry and says Keiichi is quite preposterous kid. She tells them that child is cursed and all. Keiichi is speechless, and thinks how Oryou is impressive, as he is facing the sonozaki. Then, he has a flashback of Satoko and himself, when he patted her.
Keiichi keeps his humble tone, and puts both hands on the tatami, saying he asks them to save satoko, as she is their comrade/friend. Keiichi is bowing, begging once again, with a very calm manner.
Akane comments about the kejime (disctinction). Rena wonders about this, and despite what oryou says, Rena is able to score a point about Satoko's distinction, turning the tide of the battle in their favour, while oryou is speechless but very annoyed.
It is now akane's husband, to speak his opinion. He comments he heard lots of things of Keiichi, due her daughter. After a little comment about how mion and keiichi, he wonders if Oryou doesn't think it as well. Everyone then bows, resuming the beg to Oryou.
Oryou is really annoyed, agitating her arms, saying she has enough of this, and ask them to leave. Akane apologizes while preparing something to drink for Oryou, saying they will call it an end of the discussion. Keiichi disagree, as it can be left like this, but akane reminds him about the rules. They then leave.
As everyone are waiting outside, Keiichi asks to Mion if everything is fine, but Mion says it doesn't look good. However, Rena says their grandma isn't angry at all.
Kimiyoshi and Akana arrives, and it looks like it is okay now. Akane comments that onibaba was quite impressed by Keiichi, saying she can't shut up this kind of guy. Keiichi celebrates this victory, and thanks them.
As they are walking, Rika wonders if they will break Satoko's fate. Keiichi comments they will, and goes further in his speech about it. Rika reverts to her "kuro mode", and comments how everything is because of him. Keiichi didn't really get what was all about, and "normal rika" asks him to keep it as a secret from everyone.
Spoiler for PART B:
the agency councelor in the shishibone city departement receives a call. he is then desperate about Hinamizawa case. He then calls another attendant in the agency of Okinomiya, but this one isn't exactly motivated... The councelor is helpeless.
Kimiyoshi is in the school, giving news to Keiichi. It appears the agency declines their request for another talk. however, Shion comments how it is stupid from them, as the village won't have any problem with this. Mion asks what they will do, and Kimiyoshi will arrange the rest. Everyone is set!
Outside of the agency of Shishibone... a HUGE part of the village is sitting, doing the lobby for satoko. Keiichi is amazed and wonders if the whole hinamizawa is there, but Mion correct him, as Okinomiya is fighting as well. Rika comments how Oryou was serious about it. The Councelor is inside, while the windows are covered by the curtains. He comments how the mob is amazingly big, while the other previous attendant is completely helpless and wimpy. Kimiyoshi then picks the megaphone and keeps going in the lobby. The attendant doesn't want to be shown at all.
Outside, Ooishi arrives and has something to tell to keiichi. It appears things don't really look well, and the attendant appears to have called the police. Keiichi is very angry and wants to get that man. Mion comments about the pressure, and Keiichi agrees, but Rena doesn't agree, and won't be good for Satoko somehow. Rika agrees with her. Keiichi wonders how long they will have to wait.
Teppei received another phone call, being annoyed and claiming Satoko is still having a cold. He cut it off, while Satoko is lying on the ground, breathing heavely and painfully.
Teppei takes advantage of this and goes towards Satoshi's sealed room. He isn't able to open it, and tries to force it. But quickly, he realizes that Satoko is there, walking terribly, asking him to not enter in her nii-nii rooms. Teppei says he knows the bank thing is in the room, but Satoko doesn't know what he is talking about and begs him that she must protect nii-nii's room until he comes back.
Teppei loses his temper and slams her to the wall, yalling her to shut up. Satoko begins to cry, asking help from satoshi. This doesn't improve Teppei's mood, as he groans and orders her to shut up, treating her as a idiot/moron, and kicking her again.
Outside of the agency, a car arrives and it is Mion's uncle, Geiin Sonozaki. The councelor recognizes him, and the attendant tries to flee. They receive a phone call of the director. The later is with Oryou and Akane. Oryou apologizes for the trouble, but he doesn't mind at all.
Both councelor and attendant are outside, and are listening to them, wimily.
They are calling Satoko's house, and keiichi asks her to wait for them. However, Satoko is still with teppei, completely covered by nasty bruises...
I'm impressed they again take their time, and the build up is very interesting, and not rushed, giving lot of insight about the Sonozaki stance, and how complicated the situation was. It appears it is much more corrupted that one might think.
Much like Marthx said, the end pump the adrenaline, and seriously, Teppei will most likely pay for what he is doing. (if only the sonozaki could just teach him a lessons personally...)
Again, K is really amazing, and even facing DA tsundere of this series :heh:
I'm really satisfied how the plot is really focusing on the real aspect and details of Satoko's case, which was usually hopeless, because of TONS CRAP of reasons and issues.
It will go VERY emotional next week... geh... at least, 3 episodes required for Minagoroshi!
Serenity85
2007-09-06 16:00
Quote:
Originally Posted by MarthX
(Post 1134543)
Finished watching it on Nicovideo. I expected it to go further but the end of the episode really got my adrenaline pumping. This arc may last nine episodes instead of my original prediction, eight.
well thats a good thing then^^ Least Deen is properly spacing out the arc trying to get all important details in (I approve, last season moved to quick and points were missed^^)
I havn't seen yet (waiting on subs like always which should come Sat night early Sun) I've been impressed so far and by the sounds of it this one doesn't disappoint either^^
Klashikari
2007-09-06 16:23
The raw is out. (only 3 minutes ago so... don't expect a bullet speed :heh:)
LuckyCat
2007-09-06 16:25
I really enjoyed the scene where Keiichi convinced Oryō to side with Satoko. It's like things are moving in exactly the opposite direction as Meakashi-hen.
Awesome ep.
ayukanon45
2007-09-06 17:31
ouch, satoko is not having a great time.
i wish they would hurry it up!!
i wanna see the massacre (?) at the end!!!!
all in all good episode.
i agree, at the rate these eps are going, we should see a great storyline
GratefulDead
2007-09-06 18:05
Grr, I wanna see how they are gunna finish this arc up already :o
MarthX
2007-09-06 18:18
Seems a lot of people feel the arc is dragging because they're use to season one flying through everything. If everything was properly paced in the first season then they wouldn't be feeling this. I can't wait to see ______ either but I'm enjoying the deal with Satoko's uncle. The wait is painful for those who know what's ahead :heh:
Rias
2007-09-06 18:59
Another good epsiode, nice spot to end the epsiode. Keiichi vs Tsudere Baba scene was well done, but vs Kimiyoshi scene was definitely rushed. The result is that Dr.Iri's part is cut, and Shion rushed things for everyone. Not very important, but it would've been better to see that Keiichi's struggle to get everyone in the village to work with him to be longer and harder. So that when next epsiode comes, the famous scene will have more impact.
The way things are going, this arc should end in about 3 epsiodes (hopefully 3-4, I don't really care that much for Matsuribayashi-hen :heh:), and we'll see what the true meaning behind Minagoroshi is.
Klashikari
2007-09-06 19:02
what did they actually skip with irie in fact?
Klashikari
2007-09-06 19:25
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rias
(Post 1134868)
I can't rememeber what he said exactly, but I do rememeber that Irie had more of a say in both Kimiyoshi and Oni-baba scene.
instead of having Irie just sit there and not do much...:heh:
haha... very true indeed... I even wondered if his seiyuu muttered anything in this episode :heh:
at least, it is good they show him as a clear support (especially the clash with TSUNDERE baba XD)
Ho well, at least, they didn't jump with the complete ride with satoko yet.
Well then, i finally managed to finish the upload galore, you know the drill ^^ Episode 10 : Screencaps
summary will come out when subs will be available.
MarthX
2007-09-07 00:57
The preview for 11 has major spoilers. I'm really surprised they showed that much.
Ouch, painful episode for Satoko.
Still, it's getting more closer the really good stuff.
Spoiler for Episode 11 Preview:
Zomg, they're showing the Tomitake-Takano scene...
Klashikari
2007-09-07 06:53
huh huh... not exactly a good idea to have a look at the preview...
no, i'm serious, just don't watch it.
Looks like Minagoroshi might end in 2 episodes instead.
Exilon
2007-09-07 07:12
Wow, this episode was lighter than others, but the tension is raising at an alarming speed. I'm guessing next episode things will start to go at a faster pace. The adrenaline is coming.
NH1976
2007-09-07 09:21
Quote:
Originally Posted by Klashikari
(Post 1135464)
huh huh... not exactly a good idea to have a look at the preview...
no, i'm serious, just don't watch it.
I second that. Incredibily spoilerish.
Sterling01
2007-09-07 11:28
They give all the answers in 56 seconds, I think its a new record
Sterling01
2007-09-07 11:35
Quote:
Originally Posted by Klashikari
(Post 1135464)
Looks like Minagoroshi might end in 2 episodes instead.
I think it still might be three if they don't over rush things
MrZombie
2007-09-07 12:16
Wow, you guys weren't kidding. That's some major spoilers there. I'll second (or third) the call. If you really don't know about what's really going on, don't watch that preview.