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skyboy928 2011-07-21 15:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Appel (Post 3698922)
maybe. i have no clue what happened but will definitely check on that :P



rather bad in my opinion. we need more MGs from bad guys but bandai doesnt seem to make those as often...

i would like to see Mr. Bushido's suit in MG. but PG would be totally awesome!!!
:D

Appel 2011-07-21 15:31

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Originally Posted by skyboy928 (Post 3698925)
i would like to see Mr. Bushido's suit in MG. but PG would be totally awesome!!!
:D

that would be SO awesome^^ i would love to see pretty much all suits from OO as MGs :P

oh and i just applied more lighterfluid to some leftover runners i had lying around. it was definitely the lighterfluid that caused my kit to fail so badly :P my guess is that it didnt only solve the email paint but also the softeners in the plastic... i cant bend the plastic anymore without breaking it :P so you have to apply top coat before wethering it like that to protect the plastic... i should habe read the tutorial and not just follow the video XD

skyboy928 2011-07-21 21:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Appel (Post 3698932)
that would be SO awesome^^ i would love to see pretty much all suits from OO as MGs :P

oh and i just applied more lighterfluid to some leftover runners i had lying around. it was definitely the lighterfluid that caused my kit to fail so badly :P my guess is that it didnt only solve the email paint but also the softeners in the plastic... i cant bend the plastic anymore without breaking it :P so you have to apply top coat before wethering it like that to protect the plastic... i should habe read the tutorial and not just follow the video XD

i c, i was wondering that for awhile too, i was thinking if i have to put the top coat before doing anything else or if i could simply go right ahead with the top coat. i guess you found out the hard way.

anyway, i found another video on youtube, this guy using Gundam Real Touch Marker to do some weathering effect, which also seem pretty easy, and no lighter fluid require, lol

take a look if you interested, it's in the later half.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlUCV0QAWuY&NR=1

LoweGear 2011-07-22 00:33

No new pics, but GG Blogspot reports on two new model kit announcements:

HGUC 1/144 Jesta - Sept. 2011
HGUC 1/144 GM II - Oct.


And release date confirmation of two other models:

RG 1/144 Freedom Gundam - Nov.
MG Gundam Sandrock EW - Oct.

kaizerknight01 2011-07-22 03:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoweGear (Post 3699166)
No new pics, but GG Blogspot reports on two new model kit announcements:

HGUC 1/144 Jesta - Sept. 2011
HGUC 1/144 GM II - Oct.


And release date confirmation of two other models:

RG 1/144 Freedom Gundam - Nov.
MG Gundam Sandrock EW - Oct.



Yes!!!! the Jesta and Gm II is going to be in hg uc I am very hopeful for Nemo , and the rumored Mega rider set

Appel 2011-07-22 04:33

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Originally Posted by skyboy928 (Post 3699001)
i c, i was wondering that for awhile too, i was thinking if i have to put the top coat before doing anything else or if i could simply go right ahead with the top coat. i guess you found out the hard way.

oh well, its not THAT bad. at least the model can still stand :P

and about the new accouncements: i finally want my MG heavyarms kai! i really dont care for anything else wing related at the moment...

LoweGear 2011-07-22 06:20

New pics out:

MG Gundam Sandrock EW

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/564...5564059.th.jpg

Finally we get to see the true MG prototype for the Sandrock, and it looks amazing even at this stage. Also new features it seems including the ability to connect the Heat Shotels to each other, and a new Katoki-designed SMG that the Sandrock Custom lacked.

Also, HGUC Jesta:

http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/8...5586784.th.jpg

Full loaded tacticool mecha at its finest :D

Finally, HGUC GM II:

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/9...2663418.th.jpg

skyboy928 2011-07-22 06:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Appel (Post 3699322)
oh well, its not THAT bad. at least the model can still stand :P

and about the new accouncements: i finally want my MG heavyarms kai! i really dont care for anything else wing related at the moment...

Out of the entire wing series, there only 2 more I'm looking forward to, like you said it heavyarm Kai and tallgesse, since I do have all the other one, so I guess I don't mind to get sandrock just so I could have the complete set

LoweGear 2011-07-22 09:43

New pics of the HG Garfan and HG Genoace:

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/6311/1311344497801.jpg

MakubeX2 2011-07-22 09:48

....So what will be the main selling point for Sandrock Custom after Sandrock EW apart for the colour scheme ? Wing Zero and Deathscythe gets new extension on their backs whereas Nataku and Heavyarms recieve upgrades for their toys.

The only thing that comes to mind is the cloak.

skyboy928 2011-07-22 09:53

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Originally Posted by MakubeX2 (Post 3699540)
....So what will be the main selling point for Sandrock Custom after Sandrock EW apart for the colour scheme ? Wing Zero and Deathscythe gets new extension on their backs whereas Nataku and Heavyarms recieve upgrades for their toys.

The only thing that comes to mind is the cloak.

Maybe a big gun? Cause I look back to my old sandrock, It does have the cloak, but sandrock never seem to have a gun of any kind..... Wait, how about it come package with one of those minion that always come together with sandrock, lol.

LoweGear 2011-07-22 09:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by MakubeX2 (Post 3699540)
....So what will be the main selling point for Sandrock Custom after Sandrock EW apart for the colour scheme ? Wing Zero and Deathscythe gets new extension on their backs whereas Nataku and Heavyarms recieve upgrades for their toys.

Should be pretty much the cloak and a new shield design. :heh:

Appel 2011-07-22 10:54

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Originally Posted by LoweGear (Post 3699538)
New pics of the HG Garfan and HG Genoace:

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/6311/1311344497801.jpg

sweet it transforms! alright i need that thing^^

Quote:

Originally Posted by MakubeX2 (Post 3699540)
....So what will be the main selling point for Sandrock Custom after Sandrock EW apart for the colour scheme ? Wing Zero and Deathscythe gets new extension on their backs whereas Nataku and Heavyarms recieve upgrades for their toys.

The only thing that comes to mind is the cloak.

i honestly dont care sine im only interested in the kai version anyway :P
but this is the reason why i buy the upgraded only anyway: they are only recolored versions with a few minor updates. for me its not worth it to pick them up, too :P

Rising Dragon 2011-07-22 11:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rising Dragon (Post 3698921)
Very little, I imagine.

For this message I posted, someone gave me a positive rep, curiously enough.

What's even weirder is that the message was the url to this image:

http://www.toy-world.com.hk/forum/at...d860fedc8b.jpg

Has it been posted before?

kakakka 2011-07-22 11:58

The news was just put on today, I think

http://www.toy-world.com.hk/forum/re...&goto=lastpost

Appel 2011-07-22 12:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by kakakka (Post 3699665)
The news was just put on today, I think

http://www.toy-world.com.hk/forum/re...&goto=lastpost

i want that as a MG :c

i wonder what kind of MGs we will get during the rest of the year... we have the delta plus in august, the OO seven sword /G in september, nothing for october as far as i know and the sandrock in november.
i wonder what the december kit is going to be, whether we will get a MG in october or not and if there will be a PG kit this year. i doubt the latter though :P

edit: i also just ordered the infinite justice. its a TT hongli kit i found on ebay though :P i always wanted to have one of those AND its just 26€ instead of 73€! that alone is a good argument for me... if the kit is alright ill buy the Hi-Nu next month there, too

skyboy928 2011-07-22 12:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Appel (Post 3699669)
i want that as a MG :c

i wonder what kind of MGs we will get during the rest of the year... we have the delta plus in august, the OO seven sword /G in september, nothing for october as far as i know and the sandrock in november.
i wonder what the december kit is going to be, whether we will get a MG in october or not and if there will be a PG kit this year. i doubt the latter though :P

edit: i also just ordered the infinite justice. its a TT hongli kit i found on ebay though :P i always wanted to have one of those AND its just 26€ instead of 73€! that alone is a good argument for me... if the kit is alright ill buy the Hi-Nu next month there, too

I don't think there will be a PG this year as well, but we could always hope there's one, lol
By the way, this may sound stupid, but what exactly is TT hongli kit?
I have only collect Bandai kit.

LoweGear 2011-07-22 12:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rising Dragon (Post 3699632)
For this message I posted, someone gave me a positive rep, curiously enough.

What's even weirder is that the message was the url to this image:

http://www.toy-world.com.hk/forum/at...d860fedc8b.jpg

Has it been posted before?

It looks nice... until you realize it's a resin conversion kit that'll you'll probably have to rob a bank for to buy. :T_T:

Tak 2011-07-22 12:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoweGear (Post 3699687)
you'll probably have to rob a bank for to buy. :T_T:

Well boys, what are we waitin' for!?

I've got enough for everyone! Lets do it!

- Tak

skyboy928 2011-07-22 13:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tak (Post 3699705)
Well boys, what are we waitin' for!?

I've got enough for everyone! Lets do it!

- Tak

haha, from what i see in that picture, it seem to be a event item, so i guess we need to get to that event in order to get one.

justavisitor 2011-07-22 13:44

Major yes for RG Freedom!!

kind of expected that RG Freedom would come out...so I held off my plan from buying RG strike XD

I like freedom more than strike freedom (but I like infinite justice more than justice)...can't wait!!

Appel 2011-07-22 14:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by justavisitor (Post 3699756)
Major yes for RG Freedom!!

kind of expected that RG Freedom would come out...so I held off my plan from buying RG strike XD

I like freedom more than strike freedom (but I like infinite justice more than justice)...can't wait!!

yeah, i was really happy to see the freedom there, too^^
however, i dont really like one thing about the RG line: the frame is always the same. you just pop on different armor pieces! if you have built one of them you have built them all. i might get the RG zaku II massproduction type because i dont have a zaku yet but thats it :P

skyboy928 2011-07-22 15:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Appel (Post 3699770)
yeah, i was really happy to see the freedom there, too^^
however, i dont really like one thing about the RG line: the frame is always the same. you just pop on different armor pieces! if you have built one of them you have built them all. i might get the RG zaku II massproduction type because i dont have a zaku yet but thats it :P

Really? All same frame? Man, that would be suck, since I was planning to get them all next month. I guess now all I need is 2 of them, strike and freedom, since I have the other 3 in HGUC already

Appel 2011-07-22 16:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by skyboy928 (Post 3699870)
Really? All same frame? Man, that would be suck, since I was planning to get them all next month. I guess now all I need is 2 of them, strike and freedom, since I have the other 3 in HGUC already

they all share this super flexible 1/144 inner frame called the "ADVANCED MS JOINTS". they are incredibly awesome for 1/144 scale models but its really always the same... you put together the frame (which is prebuild on the runners for you, like some PG hands that you just need to cut off the runner and slap the armor on), put on the armor pieces, done.

the frame parts are always on a single B plate.

the RX-78-2's frame:
http://dalong.net/review/hg/rg01/p/rg01_r08.jpg

chars zaku II:
http://dalong.net/review/hg/rg02/p/rg02_r07.jpg

aile strike:
http://dalong.net/review/hg/rg03/p/rg03_r07.jpg

see? they are all almost identical. but even if they were different it wouldnt really matter because you dont have to put them together :P you cut off the pieces, bend them to losen up the joints a little, twist a few pieces and then you put on the armor. its the same for all RG kits.

skyboy928 2011-07-22 18:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Appel (Post 3699940)
they all share this super flexible 1/144 inner frame called the "ADVANCED MS JOINTS". they are incredibly awesome for 1/144 scale models but its really always the same... you put together the frame (which is prebuild on the runners for you, like some PG hands that you just need to cut off the runner and slap the armor on), put on the armor pieces, done.

the frame parts are always on a single B plate.

the RX-78-2's frame:
http://dalong.net/review/hg/rg01/p/rg01_r08.jpg

chars zaku II:
http://dalong.net/review/hg/rg02/p/rg02_r07.jpg

aile strike:
http://dalong.net/review/hg/rg03/p/rg03_r07.jpg

see? they are all almost identical. but even if they were different it wouldnt really matter because you dont have to put them together :P you cut off the pieces, bend them to losen up the joints a little, twist a few pieces and then you put on the armor. its the same for all RG kits.

that is really too bad. well, thanks to you my wallet is safe, lol.
but i will get Aile Strike and Freedom, since i don't have those on 1/144.
come to think of it, it seem these RG kit also have PG, so would that mean we might see Wing, Z, Mk.II, and Astray as well?, that could be nice

Appel 2011-07-22 18:29

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Originally Posted by skyboy928 (Post 3700033)
that is really too bad. well, thanks to you my wallet is safe, lol.
but i will get Aile Strike and Freedom, since i don't have those on 1/144.
come to think of it, it seem these RG kit also have PG, so would that mean we might see Wing, Z, Mk.II, and Astray as well?, that could be nice

i didnt tell you not to buy them, i only told you one drawback about the RG line :P thea are amazing 1/144 models and i can recommend them! they are just not very exciting to build.

and since all they have to do is change the armor pieces and modify the frame a tiny bit pretty much all gundams are possible as an RG kit! thats the advantage of that frame. well, transforming suits might be a problem though :P

skyboy928 2011-07-22 18:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Appel (Post 3700036)
i didnt tell you not to buy them, i only told you one drawback about the RG line :P thea are amazing 1/144 models and i can recommend them! they are just not very exciting to build.

and since all they have to do is change the armor pieces and modify the frame a tiny bit pretty much all gundams are possible as an RG kit! thats the advantage of that frame. well, transforming suits might be a problem though :P

haha, the main reason for now getting RX78, and both Zaku is i did have that in 1/144, since there's pretty much no different between each and every RG beside the armor pcs, so i could save a bit. but if my saving do allow me to spend a bit extra, yeah, i will get those as well. :heh:.

justavisitor 2011-07-22 22:15

talking about freedom...did freedom in other grade have any balance issue because the wing/cannon is too heavy??

One of the reason I held off from buying strike is because of the balance issue I suspect it may have...my hg infinite justice is barely hanging on with a stand...so I hope freedom in RG won't have any balance issue

skyboy928 2011-07-22 23:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by justavisitor (Post 3700239)
talking about freedom...did freedom in other grade have any balance issue because the wing/cannon is too heavy??

One of the reason I held off from buying strike is because of the balance issue I suspect it may have...my hg infinite justice is barely hanging on with a stand...so I hope freedom in RG won't have any balance issue

well, i'm not sure about the HG for both Strike and Freedom, but for their MG, both come with a stand, i like Strike's stand a lot. take a look yourself
http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/...8/DSC05034.jpg but for PG, i afraid it might fall down while i was away, so i have it kneel, lol
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photo...77090.jpg?dl=1
since the sword was so huge my shelf couldn't fit that.
but once i bought the Sky Grasper which come with the stand so no need to care about the balance issue anymore, lol
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photo...71478.jpg?dl=1

justavisitor 2011-07-22 23:53

thanks for the advice!! those models look great!!

My hg infinite justice has a stand too...but the annoying part is that backpack (I keep it in full-flight mode) keeps weighting down so the cannon on the backpack keeps hitting the yellow fin of inf justice...in fact now it's just the yellow fin of the inf justice that keeps the backpack attached to the body..(sounds really weird, I know)...so just wondering whether will freedom also suffer the weight issue on the back

it would be nice if I can finally assemble "freedom and justice" with RG freedom XD

Obelisk ze Tormentor 2011-07-23 00:16

As long as I recall, Freedom doesn't have any grave balance issues with its wings. I only have the MG, but I've check my friend's HG 1-100 & 1-144 Freedom and they're fine (as long as you don't play the joint TOO often). I don't know about the Freedom RG & HG 1-60 though, but surely the RG's frame will be better than most of the HGs.

~Destiny~ 2011-07-23 00:27

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Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor (Post 3700397)
As long as I recall, Freedom doesn't have any grave balance issues with its wings. I only have the MG, but I've check my friend's HG 1-100 & 1-144 Freedom and they're fine (as long as you don't play the joint TOO often). I don't know about the Freedom RG & HG 1-60 though, but surely the RG's frame will be better than most of the HGs.

RGs have better frames yes, but that also accounts to why they have slight balance issues. Given the joints in in the feet, it's sometimes hard to get the foot flat on ground.

Oddly enough I have more trouble posing my RX-78(with the bazooka on it's back) than I do with the Strike :uhoh:

Obelisk ze Tormentor 2011-07-23 01:47

Really? Wow, now that's an input since I don't have any experience with RGs yet.

Appel 2011-07-23 04:30

the MG freedoms weight issues arent bad. it does have them but it can stand on its own depending on how you position the wings and legs.

skyboy928 2011-07-23 08:56

so i finally start working on my MG Deathscythe Hell, just finish painting the first coat, even tho i paint it out door, but once i bring the pieces back inside the whole room smell, lol
anyway, i'm about to do the second coat now.
here is a question..... when do i do the top coat?
since i'm gonna just paint the black part, do i assemble the whole kit then apply the top coat?
or i apply the top coat before assemble? that's i'm still not so sure

Appel 2011-07-23 09:32

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Originally Posted by skyboy928 (Post 3700845)
so i finally start working on my MG Deathscythe Hell, just finish painting the first coat, even tho i paint it out door, but once i bring the pieces back inside the whole room smell, lol
anyway, i'm about to do the second coat now.
here is a question..... when do i do the top coat?
since i'm gonna just paint the black part, do i assemble the whole kit then apply the top coat?
or i apply the top coat before assemble? that's i'm still not so sure

first the top coat after the black paint is dried ( i actually only applied one coat, that was enough in my opinion) and when that has dried, too you put it together. the top coat is supposed to protect the paint from scratches. if you put it together before you apply the top coat you might end up ruining the paintjob!
the top coat might also get stuck in joints and you wont be able to move it well anymore when you apply it after putting the model together :P

skyboy928 2011-07-23 09:56

i c, thanks for clearing that. hopefully will get it done tonight

Appel 2011-07-23 10:08

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Originally Posted by skyboy928 (Post 3700926)
i c, thanks for clearing that. hopefully will get it done tonight

by the way, are you using a flat or a glossy top coat? personally i prefer flat coats^^

skyboy928 2011-07-23 10:15

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Originally Posted by Appel (Post 3700935)
by the way, are you using a flat or a glossy top coat? personally i prefer flat coats^^

since i don't know what to get, i got them both, but decide to use the Flat after i saw another video about doing top coat.
the guy said that for shinny look then go with the glossy, but for realistic look, go with Flat.

by the way, i just finish the top coat right after your last reply, i still have question on if i should top coat those that i didn't paint anything? like those White or Grey part?

Appel 2011-07-23 11:07

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Originally Posted by skyboy928 (Post 3700943)
since i don't know what to get, i got them both, but decide to use the Flat after i saw another video about doing top coat.
the guy said that for shinny look then go with the glossy, but for realistic look, go with Flat.

by the way, i just finish the top coat right after your last reply, i still have question on if i should top coat those that i didn't paint anything? like those White or Grey part?

thats up to you^^ i didnt top coat the other pieces, only those that i painted. like i said, the top coat only protects the paint and adds a shiny or a flat effect. if you want that effect on the other pieces to then you can do that, you wont have any disadvantages from that :P


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