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Akyra 2006-11-25 17:50

Damn Bandai. We should take over the company, then force them to make kits and stop re-releasing the same kit with a different weapon system.

LoweGear 2006-11-26 04:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akyra (Post 750016)
Damn Bandai. We should take over the company, then force them to make kits and stop re-releasing the same kit with a different weapon system.

If you're going to do that, then you should also go after other model kit companies like Tamiya, Italeri, Academy etc... they also release models in such a manner (and sometimes, the only differences are different decals).

Stop whining, and be grateful that at least we're actually getting model kits.

SNT1 2006-11-26 05:05

It would really suck to buy an MG strike with all packs if I just wanted the Aile variant....

MakubeX2 2006-11-26 16:46

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/7...1889452ih4.jpg

Sorry, but this seems the real deal. Thinking about it, the 2500 yen difference justifies the quality.

1. 1500 yen for the gold plated parts which extends all the way to the inner mechanics, not just the joints as shown in earlier test shots.

2. 550 yen for the Action Base, 100 yen for the poster, 100 yen for the booklet and maybe 250 yen for the pipes.

Gundam Zero Force 2006-11-26 16:52

If only I had the time to make models . . . . :uhoh:

DarkWarrior 2006-11-26 17:12

Hmm, I could've sworn that the custom stand Bandai was talking about was the spider stand shown earlier, and not the action base. As I understood it, the regular Strike Freedom comes with a slightly modified Freedom stand, which has been changed so the tip can swivel up and down. And the special option Strike Freedom comes with the spider stand.. but then again I could be wrong.

M_Flores 2006-11-26 18:50

Damnit, looks like I'm gonna have to make a wings of paper again like I did with Destiny Gundam 1/100.
So what paper should I use for the wings? Should I use a light blue, or clear (see-through) white colored paper?

lol... this is just thinking way ahead now.

kct 2006-11-26 19:39

No idea >.> .

Any tutorials for GunPla around here? The parts tree is killing me (despite being mostly fine for a first-timer).

mangatron 2006-11-26 21:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by kct (Post 751005)
Any tutorials for GunPla around here? The parts tree is killing me (despite being mostly fine for a first-timer).

Among these 137 pages, or before the forum hack, there was a picture posted here that showed a dude working on some parts trees. Although it was in Japanese, the pictures were good enough....don't know where it is now :(

GameraBaenre 2006-11-27 00:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by kct (Post 751005)
No idea >.> .

Any tutorials for GunPla around here? The parts tree is killing me (despite being mostly fine for a first-timer).

Here's a tutorial I made in Microsoft Power Point.
http://torrents.thepiratebay.org/has...74.TPB.torrent

duotiga 2006-11-27 08:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by MakubeX2 (Post 750879)
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/7...1889452ih4.jpg

Sorry, but this seems the real deal. Thinking about it, the 2500 yen difference justifies the quality.

1. 1500 yen for the gold plated parts which extends all the way to the inner mechanics, not just the joints as shown in earlier test shots.

2. 550 yen for the Action Base, 100 yen for the poster, 100 yen for the booklet and maybe 250 yen for the pipes.

http://www.katoots.com/forum/index.p...c=36299&st=140

Quote:

Quote Frm Tritone

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/5025/cimg1368vs3.jpg

NOTE FINE PRINT: do you all see the
Japanese text in the white box on the lower right? And the fine print below it?

They basically say that this is a CONCEPT / "Impression" image only. It is
not supposed to be the final form of the option parts, as far as I can tell.


BUT, as mentioned, the gold parts in the kit are the same kind of plastic
colouring as in the NG kit. It's not the gleaming gold as shown in the
promo pics.

everyone be optismistic.....;)

MakubeX2 2006-11-27 08:14

I present my argument here again :-

If you are still not convince that Bandai will resort to cost cutting measure on this kit,

First,here's a blow up of the scan :-

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/860...7904065tu0.jpg

Read 3rd line from the bottom :-

"限定版ではないめてご安心を"
"This will not be a limited edition, so don't worry"

So Bandai will resort to milking the SP.

Two, Gold Plating is never cheap. Compare the HG Akatsuki (2400 Yen) To HG Destiny Gundam (1500 yen), the 1/100 Gold Frame Amatu (3800 yen) to 1/100 Legend (2600 yen). Bandai promises Gold Plated parts for the SP, hence the most of the 2500 yen difference between the normal and the SP will go towards to paying the Gold Plating. Leaving them with litter or no cash to pay for other stuffs, so they might reuse parts (Action Base) or resort to cheap alternative (Clear plastic Dragoon Gimmicks)

Three, if this is an one time deal, Bandai might be kind enough to cover their losses by slashing prices, but as pointed out in the first part of my argument, it's not. So don't expect too much from the SP except the gold platting gimmicks and the packaging.

On a lighter note :-

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/7...5566940zk9.jpg
lol, Devil Kerboros.

LoweGear 2006-11-27 08:29

Aren't we pessimistic here?

I know there are Bandai doubters around here (who can blame them), but I honestly don't believe they'd resort to that kind of thing for the SP (or Full Burst Mode Parts IIRC). They can create custom stands for the MG F91, and they can afford to make PG's and Gold Plated MG's. How can they not be able to deliver on the promised custom stand for the SP, when there's clearly lineart showing the concept for it (and Bandai's been known to stick VERY close to the lineart?)

And the "not limited edition" argument isn't convincing enough, as opposed to the "impression only" evidence shown. Bandai is RICH you know, despite the difficulties of marketing. Bandai can sometimes be lazy, but they've never cut corners like that before, especially not now on their most hyped up MS, the Strike Freedom. If they are milking the S-Freedom, then you know they're gonna devote a whole lot of time and money on giving us at least a decent product.

MakubeX2 2006-11-27 08:43

Yes. I do agreed that there's a standard to be met for Bandai, but what I'm not convince about is that a 2500 yen difference is enough to buy us Gold Platings with Good Extras, especially if Bandai is going to mass produce the SP.

If it's a one time deal, we can accept that Bandai will make something good for us at 2500 yen as a Christmas Present of sort for a good will gesture. But if they are mass producing it.....2500 yen may not be enough to cover everything.

In short, I asking everyone not to get their hope up if something disappointing comes up.

As a recent example, Bandai promises Glow-In-The-Dark Gimmmick for the HG Stargazer, they give us Hologram Stickers. While still good, but it's far from what they had promise.

LoweGear 2006-11-27 09:38

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Originally Posted by MakubeX2 (Post 751442)
As a recent example, Bandai promises Glow-In-The-Dark Gimmmick for the HG Stargazer, they give us Hologram Stickers. While still good, but it's far from what they had promise.

I agree with your last point, but still no reason to be pessimistic. And none of us actually knew that Stargazer would have a glow in the dark gimmick (it came as quite a shock to a lot of people when it was revealed in hobby show pics). That Stargazer even came with such a thing was enough to make me spaz out, even though it was only hologram stickers, because before that I was expecting just a plain old model (There wasn't really anything much that you could've expected from Stargazer initially).

kct 2006-11-27 11:48

Hmmm...so my C1 got infected by the 'too much weight on the top' problem.

SNT1 2006-11-27 12:52

hm. I thought the weight was well-balanced. Well, try putting some weight inside lower legs/feet then.

Meehlimo 2006-11-27 15:44

U can do a trick by puting small bead weights in the the feet and legs to make it heavier for balence.

M_Flores 2006-11-27 18:32

I'd be surprised, but very pleased if the SP Options also included another beam shield, like the other SFs never had v_v;...

MakubeX2 2006-11-27 18:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoweGear (Post 751478)
I agree with your last point, but still no reason to be pessimistic. And none of us actually knew that Stargazer would have a glow in the dark gimmick (it came as quite a shock to a lot of people when it was revealed in hobby show pics).

It was mentioned that the HG Stargazer have a Glow-In-The-Dark Gimmick when the promo pix first came out :-

http://www.hobby-midori.com/img/hbjilyouhou/pn-0539.JPG

But it was not mentioned that it will have those Rings which are first revealed at the Hobby Show along with the hologram stickers.

kuraishi 2006-11-28 06:36

ok this is my Xbone it may not look like it but its fully paintd ..... the one on the box has no lines but looks awsome but my one dosent have lines but looks crap.. looks like i built it straight from the box. any recomendations??

http://www.geocities.com/kuraishi_x/Xbone.jpg

opinions will be good ^^

Meehlimo 2006-11-28 08:57

use a gray gundam marker for panel lines i did most faded looks exactly like the box. Juts make sure to use grey not black.... black is a nono on this kit.

kct 2006-11-28 09:47

I somehow managed to get rid of the problem for now. Will handle some panel-lining when I have the time (since I'm busy with work...the work that gave me money to buy that).

M_Flores 2006-11-28 19:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meehlimo (Post 752416)
use a gray gundam marker for panel lines i did most faded looks exactly like the box. Juts make sure to use grey not black.... black is a nono on this kit.

Maybe he didn't want it to look exactly like the box? lol... perhaps he was going for the more visible panel line effects, which IMO, might look good, even though not staying true to the real colours.

Meehlimo 2006-11-28 22:14

Lol i know its just i used gray after i used black and wel black is every overpowering on this model IMO. I thought the gray was better suited since it was lighter wit the white. Heres a pic of mine sorry it aint so great my digi is a pain in the ass.
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...o/IMGP0026.jpg

M_Flores 2006-11-28 22:56

Looks tuff.
Still interested to see black panel lines though.


(btw, please dont tell me to get my own xbone and do my own panel lines myself. I'm not as rich as some of u guys nor as good at modelling, so I'm just simply implying what I'm interested to see)

Akyra 2006-11-28 23:56

Do i have to use Gundam markers for panel lines? We can use normal felt-tips right? Like the pilot Hi-techpoint? I've never tried and dun wanna try unless it works. (Though I did use permanent black markers for vents and thrusters to make it appear to be "deeper" in depth)

Meehlimo 2006-11-29 00:16

I never use sharpies cuz as they age the ink turns purple and looks absolutly horrible on white when that happends. The fine tip gundam markers r perfect for panel lining i highly recomend everyone to pic up 1 or 2.

M_Flores 2006-11-29 02:19

Hey what kind of marker does dalong.net use for the panel lines? I can't understand the site, so yeah. I also heard someone in this thread say that the Gundam markers (the official ones) are somewhat unreliable.

lhasarus 2006-11-29 03:24

Hi (first post here. so one short Hi for You all :-) )
dalong uses Gundanmarkers and after that he goes over the same line with a technical pen. As seen here. Its called Rotring Rapidograph or Rotring Isograph. In some regions they are selled by Koh-i-Noor. If you read something like technical pen in model toturials now you know what they are writing about. They are not that cheap because they are pens for manual engineering drawings. The price span for one pen is from 15 to 25 €. The ones with thinner tips are more pricey. You should get something in the 0.2 mm region because the smaller ones are more difficult to handel (the tip is easily deformed because of to much pressure and you'll have to cleane it more often). My mother had some because of her former job. So I use them now :-)

There are types with refillable ink tanks (mine) and ones where you have to buy inc capsules (imho that is the isograph one). Here one link to the manufactorer. If u buy them at ebay you should make sure to get a new one or have much time and a good supersonic cleaner because you have to clean the tip of the pen which is usually blocked by ink (i have to clean mine with the cleaner very often...dman thing)

kuraishi 2006-11-29 03:30

well what i ment was not using lines but still getting that cool gundam look but i guess lines really do make your gundam better .... the only pannel line i did for it was the leg since the box had it too LOL well for my lining needs all i use is the official gundam markers ... i have the felt tip version and the marker version .... i prefer the marker version because u line it then rub of the parts of the ink so the line is thinner.. thats how i do the mouth peice.

heres a nicely lined pg strike that i did before.

http://www.geocities.com/kuraishi_x/Sequence02.jpg

sx3 2006-11-29 06:38

could it get anymroe awesome than this?

http://cgi.ebay.com/G-System-1-72-Sa...ayphotohosting

1/72 G System Sazabi. so detailed.

cf18 2006-11-29 14:59

The Real Double Z Gundam!

SNT1 2006-11-29 18:02

somebody took double zeta literally! :)

Malyn 2006-11-29 20:38

Are there any Destiny MSV 1/144 models, cos in my local store there are only SEED MSV units?

Thks

Meehlimo 2006-11-29 20:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malyn (Post 753910)
Are there any Destiny MSV 1/144 models, cos in my local store there are only SEED MSV units?

Thks

The only destiny era msv i can think of out would be the ones released wit stargazer model line other than that i would have to say no.

Derringer 2006-11-29 20:45

Nope, there's nothing yet.

Damonwa1632 2006-11-29 22:40

Super deformed tallgeese actionfigure??
 
Hi I'm new here but I'm a huge gundam wing fan and I was wondering if there was a tallgeese in any version from the original to tallgeese 3 mobilesuits made in a super-deformed action figure. I have the tallgeese dark knight of the tempest figure with the griffin armor but I really want a tallgeese action figure thats the mobilesuit. If anyone can help me out on this and where I could possibly get one It would be greatly appreciated. I have all the other gundam wing figures from the series to endless waltz including the SD gundam wing figures and that the one that I never saw in a figure except for the deformed gashapon of the tallgeese 1, 2, and 3 Please help!

theOtherGuy 2006-11-30 02:12

Well...I wouldn't say "nothing" completely...how about... Providence Zaku, Zaku Mass Production Prototype, or Noctiluca Zaku Warrior.

Tak 2006-11-30 02:59

And its ridiculous how much they are charging you for those simple conversion kits...

I wonder if people actually buys them

- Tak (and I bet they do)


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