AnimeSuki.com Forum

AnimeSuki Forum (http://forums.animesuki.com/index.php)
-   Naruto/Boruto (http://forums.animesuki.com/forumdisplay.php?f=8)
-   -   Byakugan, Sharingan & Rinnengan (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=606)

smee 2003-11-09 16:46

Byakugan, Sharingan & Rinnengan
 
So wut would u rather have and why? Byukugan or Sharingan? I would rather have byukugan cuz u get a 360 degree view and it looks pretty darn cool. sharingan looks cool too but i think byukugan is more usefull.

NenMaster 2003-11-09 16:49

sharingan, think it look better than the byukugan ;) i need 2 see more from both eyes before making a choice for battle ;)

uglypigs 2003-11-09 16:57

yAy its 1 of these! awesome1 i ch00se byukn because i want to l00k thr0gh g1rls sk1rts!

sorry im a jackass.

Hunter 2003-11-09 16:58

I wondered who would be the first to remake this post :p

Well both in the real world and in the Naruto universe the Sharingan.
Mess up with the spirit of anyone is far better than to be able to see at 360

Napoleon 2003-11-09 16:58

Before I answer this, I got a question. Does the Byukugan have an absolute avantage againts Genjutsus? I mean if the Byukugan can see through everything, won't illusions designed to fool the eyes be useless?

Stickels 2003-11-09 17:06

I'd rather have sharingan, its not as noticable. If anybody saw you use Byukugan in real life they wouldn't think it was cool... they'd all just think your a freak and stay away from you.

smee 2003-11-09 17:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stickels
I'd rather have sharingan, its not as noticable. If anybody saw you use Byukugan in real life they wouldn't think it was cool... they'd all just think your a freak and stay away from you.

thats the point dude, if u were in a fight and used byukugan u would win right there. i know it would be a little strange but its still cool.

Stickels 2003-11-09 17:14

well... if you were in a fight and you used sharingan you'd win right there to, and nobody would think your a freak... except the guy you just beat the crap out of who saw your eyes turn red...

now how awesome would that be? The guy would be rambeling forever about "he... he wasn't real, he was demon, the guy has blood red eyes!" and people would look at you... and see that your eyes are obviously not blood red, and just think he's delusional.

smee 2003-11-09 17:18

lol, that would be cool, i'd be more scared if a guy did byukugan though, all the veins and stuff.

Lst2touchdasky 2003-11-09 17:29

Sharigan beacuse red is my favorite color and also sharigan is more rare then byukugan. Also it would be pretty nice because i would be able to get good grades in school just like sasuke did it the first test

Dragon Flame 2003-11-09 17:49

im staying clear of this thread, its nothing but trouble

Kamui4356 2003-11-09 17:52

I'd have to go with the sharingan. With it you could learn any martial art in a few seconds, assuming you're in good enough shape to actually do the moves. Also you could copy other moves from Naruto like kage bushin no jutsu. Finally two words,
Spoiler:

eLstar 2003-11-09 18:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragon Flame
im staying clear of this thread, its nothing but trouble

You said it. But I chose Sharingan.

For old times sake.

;)

GUTB_ 2003-11-09 18:25

Sharingan is more advanced that Bakyugan. With Sharingan you get to see chakra, greatly improve your visual perception, the ability to easily memorize everything you see with it and strong brainwashing capabilities. That has a lot more real-life applications than Bakyugan which is, honestly, not that powerful until you learn the soft-fist style that goes with it. And even then it's only good for combat. You don't need to learn any special martial arts to get a lot of use out of Sharingan, and can learn just by looking at others if you wanted.

But it should also be mentioned that the soft-fist style doesn't require Bakyugan, it's just not that effective without beign able to pinpoint someone's chakara points. But when you have that ability, you become super-powerful in hand-to-hand. With Sharingan, you are still getting your ass kicked by Mike Tyson. But with Bakyugan + soft-fist, you just touch Mike Tyson and he falls over coughing up blood. That is pretty cool.

Hunter 2003-11-09 18:57

In real life Mike Tyson haven't any chakra flow, so touch him with your fingers will just irritate him ;)

Kabuto 2003-11-09 19:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by GUTB_
Sharingan is more advanced that Bakyugan. With Sharingan you get to see chakra, greatly improve your visual perception, the ability to easily memorize everything you see with it and strong brainwashing capabilities. That has a lot more real-life applications than Bakyugan which is, honestly, not that powerful until you learn the soft-fist style that goes with it. And even then it's only good for combat. You don't need to learn any special martial arts to get a lot of use out of Sharingan, and can learn just by looking at others if you wanted.

But it should also be mentioned that the soft-fist style doesn't require Bakyugan, it's just not that effective without beign able to pinpoint someone's chakara points. But when you have that ability, you become super-powerful in hand-to-hand. With Sharingan, you are still getting your ass kicked by Mike Tyson. But with Bakyugan + soft-fist, you just touch Mike Tyson and he falls over coughing up blood. That is pretty cool.

The Byakugan can also see Chakara. The Sharingan can see it as flames of Charaka but the Byakugan can see it flow. Like Kakashi said, the Byakugan has much more abilities then the Sharingan. THe only reason that its so feared in the naruto world is because a lot of clans and individuals work extremely hard to master their own unique move and secrets. While the Byakugan can see the secrets, the sharingan can copy it right on the spot which is much more devistating.

Who would want their family secret unvield in such an easy way?

The sharingan also has the ability to predict what is going to happen next in a combat. Its not telling the future but its more like calculating the probabitlity.
The hypnotic technique you were talking about before isn't a sharingan move. It is a type of genjutsu.

WHat kakashi did before was use genjutsu and his sharingan to confuse Zabuza(what ever his name is)

I think you would break your fingers by poking tyson. Or he might just bite it off.

Vicious 2003-11-09 20:19

I'd rather have the Byakugan in the real world, for the same reasons as uglypigs-san :naughty:
But in the Naruto world I'd rather have the Sharingan. It's more useful to have countless jutsu, you just have to use the right one to beat the enemy.

Hunter 2003-11-09 20:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kabuto
Like Kakashi said, the Byakugan has much more abilities then the Sharingan.

lol kakashi never said that, he said that the Byakugan has a better insight abilities than the sharingan that's all.
The Byakugan can't have more abilities than the sharingan for a very simple reason, the Sharingan can give you an infinite amount of abilities.

Quote:

THe only reason that its so feared in the naruto world is because a lot of clans and individuals work extremely hard to master their own unique move and secrets. While the Byakugan can see the secrets, the sharingan can copy it right on the spot which is much more devistating.

Who would want their family secret unvield in such an easy way?
That's right, but it's only one reason and the mange sharingan is the other one.
Nobody can fight equally against a Sharingan's master but an other Sharingan's master.

Quote:

The hypnotic technique you were talking about before isn't a sharingan move. It is a type of genjutsu.
No it's not, the Tsukuyomi of Itachi for example is a special Sharingan genjutsu that only the sharingan user can use or countered, the sharingan is a dojutsu which allow you to use specific genjutsu.

monir 2003-11-09 20:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragon Flame
im staying clear of this thread, its nothing but trouble

haahaa...like it or not you are in it as soon as you posted:D

Well it is very hard to choose between them..Can I have both?:D...I would like Sharingan because it can predict/anticipate the movements of the opponent then again Byukugan enables to see the chakra-flow points which is a great advantage to have in a hand to hand combat..

Stickels 2003-11-09 20:32

well... unless your neji you probably won't be able to hit the chakra points anyways... even if you do know where they are.

aFlipGuy 2003-11-09 21:04

but if ur not itachi u wouldnt know how to use the mange sharingan, or if ur not sasuke u wouldnt improve ur speed so much in a month.....

flipguy likes byakugan more than sharingan, byakugan sees all, so if u flick me off behind my back, i will know ^_^ or i can see through girl's shirts ^_^ all those hot ninjas in konoha haahahah they can be naked in my eyes all the time ^_^ but thats not all i can copy answers ^_^ when i am taking a test, sharingan can do that also by copying thier movements but veiny eyes are soo much cooler than swirly eyes

we havent seen any byakugan master so we cant say that sharingan is stronger than byakugan, maybe if there was a byakugan master who knows a hidden ability....similar to mange sharingan or sumtin cause mange sharingan is too cheap

monir 2003-11-09 21:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stickels
well... unless your neji you probably won't be able to hit the chakra points anyways... even if you do know where they are.

Neji's ability is actually a little bit more advanced. He not only see the main chakra points but also see the sub points which are connected to the main points and Neji can disrupt the chakra flow by attacking those subpoints with his unique ability..Now with my amaturish skill using Byukugan, i will just try to punch out those main-points in the chakra flow, and I dont have to be Neji to do that...:D

nojevo 2003-11-09 21:41

One reason why Sharingan rules... Itachi !!

Stickels 2003-11-09 21:52

Who the heck is Itachi now?

Evilbunny 2003-11-09 22:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stickels
Who the heck is Itachi now?

Itachi is Sasuke's borther. Orochimauru mentions his name in the forest, remember?

anyway i think Byukugan is so much cooler than Sharingan. even if the person ur fighting doesn't have chakra flow u can still see major arteries and pressure points, so it rules. Plus u can see through girls clothes.... is there anything left to argue? :p

Hunter 2003-11-09 22:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by aFlipGuy
we havent seen any byakugan master so we cant say that sharingan is stronger than byakugan, maybe if there was a byakugan master who knows a hidden ability....similar to mange sharingan or sumtin cause mange sharingan is too cheap

lol of course we saw a Byakugan's master : the father of Hinata.
Face it, the absolute hidden jutsu of the hyuga is the Kaiten, it's the jutsu only know by the heir of the Hyuga clan.

Hinata is a normal Byakugan's user and she can't even see the chakra holes.
Neji is a genious, he's one of the extremely few member of the Hyuga's clan (and by extremely few I mean 2 people for the moment) who can fight by using the chakra holes.

Now you can believe that the Byakugan can launch some kind of chakra laser beam if you really want to but it's just your imagination, not fact.

Stickels, Itachi is the brother of Sasuke.

Stickels 2003-11-09 22:18

oh, thats what I thought, just making sure.

GUTB_ 2003-11-09 22:22

The attacking of specific chakara sub-points is a very high-level style mastered only by a few. At the lower level, the major chakra coils are attacked directly, resulting in internal organ damage. So even an average user can take down a giant with one hit.

Neji was trying to drive home the point to Hinata that she couldn't ever touch him, which is why he went through the effort of closing the sub-points. When he got pissed off, he just attacked normally to do critical damage. Figure that Neji will usually do normal attacks, as the sub-point technique is really only good for disabling oppenents. Of course, Neji isn't out to kill anyone in the exam (except for that one moment with hinata) so he's more likely to use non-lethal force. And he also gets to show off his mad skill in the process :)

Kabuto 2003-11-09 23:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hunter
lol kakashi never said that, he said that the Byakugan has a better insight abilities than the sharingan that's all.
The Byakugan can't have more abilities than the sharingan for a very simple reason, the Sharingan can give you an infinite amount of abilities.

When i mean the ammount of abilities i was saying on how much the eye can do alone. You took my statement out of context. But you are right. In the long term the sharingan will have an infinite amount of abilities.

Quote:

That's right, but it's only one reason and the mange sharingan is the other one.
Nobody can fight equally against a Sharingan's master but an other Sharingan's master.
As of now in the Manga it doesn't look like any HUMAN can. But you are forgetting about other beings in the Naruto world like the demons. AKA 9 tails. Another note is Itachi is following orders, if he was the stongest in his organization i would think he would take it over by now. ANyways it doesn't look like Itachi would follow anyone weaker then him. So its possible for the leader to be human or demon.


Quote:

No it's not, the Tsukuyomi of Itachi for example is a special Sharingan genjutsu that only the sharingan user can use or countered, the sharingan is a dojutsu which allow you to use specific genjutsu.
I understand that but i was referring to what Kakashi was doing during the fight. But i totally forgot about the Manga Sharingan.

Mr. Bushido 2003-11-09 23:52

ppl always say: "__ will make you stronger"
in the real world u dont always get into fights. The point of life in the real world is not to be the strongest.

with that i will say neither... because its still hard to choose, ill show u the reasons why id like both of them and y i wouldnt.

Byakugen

likes
i can see everything. The new japanese tech where it makes u invisible? i can still see you. hot grls will always be naked even in winter. dont know the answer? no one in class knows the answer? the book in my backpack does, the teacher's answer sheet does. secret meeting of ur competitor in buisness? i know wat they're planning. my gf lives 10 miles away? i can see her. perverted things. ure a doctor? cant find the problem? well lets examine the body layer by layer without exposing xrays. in war? captured? blindfolded? doesnt stop u.

dislikes:
freaky veins and silver eyes... you'll probably become a cheater ur whole life. will never be good at anything really.

Sharingan:

likes:
copy everything. He's a good guitar player? now u r. ure in war? dodge bullets. someone pisses him off? give him mental damages to the max. be a step faster. notice everything. (thats not behind u). smart kid in front of u in a test? copy exactly wat he's saying

dislikes:
sucks ur energy like mad doesnt it? its not good to cheat by putting exactly wat another person wrote especially in essays. u have to be a psycho to give someone the mange sharingan.



id go for kage bunshin or Lee's speed over these two any day.

Jn183 2003-11-10 00:16

In real life, I would pick Byukugan. Pin pointing Chakra is like acupuncture. Could see all the weak spot in a human body. Oh yeah, need Neji speed to be able to hit the spot., also. That would be great. Kick mike tyson or anyone behind

Paiser 2003-11-10 00:35

Okay but if your a current level where Sasuke is u can see the attack before comes at u! And Sasuke being freakishly fast and all he win. So swirly eyes beat blindies... but if you werent in sasuke's level but lil bit below him u still kick ass because ur lil bit slower then sasuke and naji is slow compare to sasuke! LOL and LEE kick ass... Gate of LIFE AND OVER NO MATTER WUT and also Gaara had shield, if he didnt had shield he be down.... N/E ways if it were sasuke vs neji... sasuke wins...(in manga version) (in anime neji wins right now...)
But pretty cool to see all girls naked... but guys are around to.... EW>.<

Stickels 2003-11-10 00:46

in real life, if someone did Byukugan on me, I'd shoot them in the face, good luck out moving a bullet.

Kabuto 2003-11-10 00:59

You know what i want. I want some of those pills they have.
They got pills that can do anything for you.

But what i do want in the Naruto world would be the basics. The ninja know how and chakara control. Also the ability to not feel physical pain like they do in the anime. Also the to never have my bones break and extrude out of my skin just like naruto. ANd no visible damage.

But what i really want is an anime babe!!!!!
heheh :heh:

Am i asking for too much?

Moon The Cat 2003-11-10 01:10

If Mange Sharingan and the Byakugan's ability to see thorugh skirts collided, the universe would explode, the abilities are just to powerful.

Returning to the serious world where I don't have Byakugan. Even thugh Byakugan gives you a great insight ability. I think that seeing thorugh any jutsu is more important during a fight.

monir 2003-11-10 02:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kabuto
You know what i want. I want some of those pills they have.
They got pills that can do anything for you.

But what i do want in the Naruto world would be the basics. The ninja know how and chakara control. Also the ability to not feel physical pain like they do in the anime. Also the to never have my bones break and extrude out of my skin just like naruto. ANd no visible damage.

But what i really want is an anime babe!!!!!
heheh :heh:

Am i asking for too much?

What a coincidence...It is as if you have copied of my list for Santa..:D

Paiser 2003-11-10 02:22

santa: ohoho marry thanks giving!
And you 2 have been 2 naughty this year so you cant get any of them!!!! MAUAHHAHAHA

Santa's are evil... they know wut you want! THEY KNOW!!!! AND HE WONT MAKE IT COME TRUE!!!

raikage 2003-11-10 04:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by monir
Neji's ability is actually a little bit more advanced. He not only see the main chakra points but also see the sub points which are connected to the main points and Neji can disrupt the chakra flow by attacking those subpoints with his unique ability..Now with my amaturish skill using Byukugan, i will just try to punch out those main-points in the chakra flow, and I dont have to be Neji to do that...:D

You can TRY, but you can't do it...

The Sharingan lets you copy ninjutsu [well-established]. It does NOT, however, allow you to copy taijutsu JUST LIKE THAT. Otherwise, Sasuke would have been able to use the Lotus anytime he wanted to. He 'borrowed' the kick from Rock Lee, but couldn't do the rest. If he tried to copy Neji's open-handed combat, he couldn't do it very well. He doesn't know how to flow his chakra into his enemy (and the Sharingan can't show you that one), and he definitely can't hit the chakra holes. I don't care what you say, he CAN'T. He'd just be poking blindly.

'But he can copy ninjutsu, so he must be able to copy taijutsu too, since it's simpler!'
Nope. How does a ninja perform jutsu? Hand seals, right? Easy to copy, doesn't require a high degree of dexterity or precision the way open-hand does. If your left hand is a little bit off, it doesn't really matter.

Plus, the Sharingan's greatest strength can also be a bit of a weakness. Knowing ten thousand techniques is cool, but knowledge ≠superiority.

Many of the most effective (real-life) fighting systems have only a few moves. Kakashi KNOWS a thousand jutsu. He is not the MASTER of a thousand jutsu. There's a difference. It's like being a yellow belt in four martial arts instead of a master at one.

Plus, the Hyuga use tai-chi! Can't disrespect tai-chi!

AnimeFangirl 2003-11-10 05:25

That Gentle Fist taijutsu stuff would be great in real life. Your prof pisses you off? Go, smile, shake his hand, stop his fricking heart. WAHAHAHAHAAAA!! Your boss is giving your a hard time? Bump into him, give him enough diarrhoea to kill an elephant. GWOHOHOHOHOHOHO!! I'd definitely go for the Byakugan, those evil profs need to be taught a good lesson. :fingers:

GUTB_ 2003-11-10 05:41

Nah, I would just hit the Inner Coils and crush his internal organs. Again, that would be cool and could serve as an answer to most of life's problems.

Cop pulls you over for speading. Touch.

Bullies pick a fight. Touch.

Dog craps on carpet. Touch.

Cashier short-changes you. Touch.

Girlfriend pisses you off. Threaten to touch.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:24.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions Inc.