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Heatth 2009-09-20 07:08

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Originally Posted by freakonboard (Post 2654824)
Sorry, I forgot to check.
At very least it's bigger. :heh:

True, you image is easir to 'read'(but there is someone here reading? :p).

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Originally Posted by freakonboard (Post 2654824)
Actually, when anime was first broadcasted, Volume 7 of the novels already published for about a year.

You see, Sakanaka only show up in Volume 8 (her, not her name). What coincidence huh?

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Originally Posted by freakonboard (Post 2654824)
But I think the character designs were done by KyoAni staff.
The source of this pic is Suzumiya Haruhi Official Fanbook ~ Suzumiya Haruhi no Koushiki, the translated version was done by Chux
Here's the raw page and alternate fan-made version.


That alternate version is interesting. They all have appeared at last once in the old episodes

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Originally Posted by Kogetsu Shirogane (Post 2654825)
I'm just stating that the names, including Sakanaka's, were already present within the series. As Tanigawa doesn't seem to like randomly throwing out names, it's entirely possible he had intended on using at least one of the students mentioned, and might have already worked out a basic personality for each of them.

You know, I can remember only two characters that were hinted to existe before their first apparition. But both didn't have their name given until we see then.

I undeerstand what you say, and givem how Kyoani have worked with Tanigawa (asking him for the script of any anime-only scene), I believe he was the on who did it. Even then, I think it is probable he only did it for the anime (cause they need concistent background characters) and decided to use it in the novels.

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Originally Posted by freakonboard (Post 2654845)
Kinda related to this thread...
Spoiler for female students in class 1-5:
Source: Comp H's Vol.2

Nice post! There is any translation?

Btw, never had noticied Sakanaka was looking worried to Haruhi in the first episode.Kinda fiting with the 'wants to be friend with Haruhi'.

However, there is a small inconcistence there too. The other class rep (along with Ryouko) is said to be Goto. However, in a screenshot on that last image, the one standing at Ryouko side, when it seen she is talking to the class, is Sakaki.

Tornadium 2009-09-20 07:21

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Originally Posted by freakonboard (Post 2654594)
This is actually old, but oh well.

Spoiler for the relationship chart of student in class 1-5:

Where did this come from?

I must have missed it.

Heatth 2009-09-20 09:03

So, I just noticied there is a guy called Arakawa in the class. He is in the left-botton corner and his family runs a Dojo.

His name is not writen in the same way as Arakawa-san. But is a funny coincidence(?).

Tornadium 2009-09-20 09:07

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Originally Posted by Heatth (Post 2655166)
So, I just noticied there is a guy called Arakawa in the class. He is in the left-botton corner and his family runs a Dojo.

His name is not writen in the same way as Arakawa-san. But is a funny coincidence(?).

Oh wow i never noticed that.

Heh, Maybe it's ment to be a reference?

freakonboard 2009-09-20 09:09

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Originally Posted by Heatth (Post 2655034)
You see, Sakanaka only show up in Volume 8 (her, not her name). What coincidence huh?

Just to add, Wandering Shadow was first published in The Sneaker April 2006 Issue. (the same month that the anime was first aired.)


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Originally Posted by Heatth (Post 2655034)
Nice post! There is any translation?

None that I'm aware of. :(


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Originally Posted by Tornadium (Post 2655045)
Where did this come from?

I must have missed it.

http://lolipuni.com/
Ctrl+F to find "1年5組"

Basically it was based on the info on Suzumiya Haruhi no Koushiki.

Speaking of Sasaki, man, he's got his own harem. :heh:

Heatth 2009-09-20 09:15

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Originally Posted by freakonboard (Post 2655178)
Just to add, Wandering Shadow was first published in The Sneaker April 2006 Issue. (the same month that the anime was first aired.)

Good point, didn't know that.

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Originally Posted by freakonboard (Post 2655178)
Speaking of Sasaki, man, he's got his own harem. :heh:

You mean Sakaki right? :heh: Lucky guy, anyway. Aparently, it is because his 'beautiful voice'. He being the most good looking guy there probably helps.

Tornadium 2009-09-20 09:20

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Originally Posted by freakonboard (Post 2655178)

http://lolipuni.com/
Ctrl+F to find "1年5組"

Basically it was based on the info on Suzumiya Haruhi no Koushiki.

Speaking of Sasaki, man, he's got his own harem. :heh:


Thanks!

I'll have a look see.

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You mean Sakaki right? Lucky guy, anyway. Aparently, it is because his 'beautiful voice'. He being the most good looking guy there probably helps.
Heh. I wish we knew more about Haruhi and Kyon's classmates. Would be pretty interesting.

I wonder what the other girls think about Haruhi liking Kyon compared to anyone else.

freakonboard 2009-09-20 09:32

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Originally Posted by Heatth (Post 2655184)
You mean Sakaki right? :heh: Lucky guy, anyway. Aparently, it is because his 'beautiful voice'. He being the most good looking guy there probably helps.

Yep, that's a typo.
You can psychoanalyze me that in fact I like another (female) character much more than him, and I won't deny. :D

TakariCritic 2009-09-20 10:02

Speaking of classmates, anyone remember Koizumi telling Kyon of the member in his class in the Organization? I'm having difficulty finding it.

Tornadium 2009-09-20 10:14

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Originally Posted by TakariCritic (Post 2655241)
Speaking of classmates, anyone remember Koizumi telling Kyon of the member in his class in the Organization? I'm having difficulty finding it.

He said that a number of espers are in the school. I can't recall him giving any names though.

Heatth 2009-09-20 10:16

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Originally Posted by TakariCritic (Post 2655241)
Speaking of classmates, anyone remember Koizumi telling Kyon of the member in his class in the Organization? I'm having difficulty finding it.

A few guess:

Arakawa- He is actually Arakawa son, but his father change his namewhen dealing with Haruhi,so she wouldn't notice (this is a baseless speculation, btw). Plus, he used to study with Haruhi in middle school

Amane- He was stalking Ryouko. Maybe by the Organization orders.

Naruzaki, Naoki or Saeki- Friends of Sakanaka, who wants to befriend Haruhi. Sakanaka herself is not likely, as the organization as a whole don'ttry to becometoo close of her.

Goto or Takato- No reason, but in the first episode it is shown they (and Arakawa) were in the same middle school as Haruhi.

Taniguchi- 4 years in the same class as Haruhi might be not a coincidence. He is a very good actor then.

OkamiNoKaze 2009-09-20 10:16

Spoiler for Heard it somewhere on here I think:

Tornadium 2009-09-20 10:19

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Originally Posted by OkamiNoKaze (Post 2655275)
Spoiler for Heard it somewhere on here I think:

I don't remember hearing anything about that in any of the books.

worldruined 2009-09-20 12:23

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Originally Posted by TakariCritic (Post 2655241)
Speaking of classmates, anyone remember Koizumi telling Kyon of the member in his class in the Organization? I'm having difficulty finding it.

Well, there's...

Spoiler:


He never states, specifically, that there's a member in Kyon's class. Kyon suggests Taniguichi, a possibility that Koizumi brushes aside without ever really answering. It could be assumed that there's at least one agent in 1-5, though, to keep an eye on Haruhi during the day (since Koizumi is in another class).

And just to reiterate from another thread -- "Organization agent" does not necessarily mean "Organization esper". They can and do have agents that don't have esper powers. Koizumi is probably the Organization's first and only esper at North High.

Roger Rambo 2009-09-20 12:31

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Originally Posted by Heatth (Post 2655273)
*snip*

Where did you hear this from?

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Originally Posted by Tornadium (Post 2655267)
He said that a number of espers are in the school. I can't recall him giving any names though.

Could you provide the actual quote? Because I don't think he said there were other Espers, but other members of the organization.

And it's highly unlikely that every member of the organization is an Esper.

TakariCritic 2009-09-20 12:34

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Originally Posted by worldruined (Post 2655493)

He never states, specifically, that there's a member in Kyon's class. Kyon suggests Taniguichi, a possibility that Koizumi brushes aside without ever really answering. It could be assumed that there's at least one agent in 1-5, though, to keep an eye on Haruhi during the day (since Koizumi is in another class).


I remember reading that there was an agent in class 1-5, and Koizumi stated that the agent was actually a fan of Kyon's. I'm having a hard time finding that quote though.

Heatth 2009-09-20 12:39

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Originally Posted by Roger Rambo (Post 2655503)
Where did you hear this from?

I just made up. Of course. As I said, just a few guess. I think in who could be, based in what we know about their characters. It is pretty hard to say, as we don't know much of then. My favorite guess is Arakawa, for now, just because his name (and becauser he might be badass, since his family has a dojo).

Actually, the most likely to be, given the currents informations, is Taniguchi.


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Originally Posted by Roger Rambo (Post 2655503)
And it's highly unlikely that every member of the organization is an Esper.

Actually, given there is no much more then 10 ESPers, it is really improbable the organization has only then as members.

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Originally Posted by TakariCritic (Post 2655510)
I remember reading that there was an agent in class 1-5, and Koizumi stated that the agent was actually a fan of Kyon's. I'm having a hard time finding that quote though.

A fan of Kyon? A girl maybe? How about Yanagimoto? Maybe she dislike Haruhi because he likes Kyon.

A don't remember ever reading this, tough. But I miss many things while reading books in english.

Tornadium 2009-09-20 15:54

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Originally Posted by worldruined (Post 2655493)

And just to reiterate from another thread -- "Organization agent" does not necessarily mean "Organization esper". They can and do have agents that don't have esper powers. Koizumi is probably the Organization's first and only esper at North High.

Well i was just assuming that those placed there would be Espers because Koizumi is. I'll conceed that we can't know if they are or not.

Is there any information in the novels regarding membership in the organisation?

worldruined 2009-09-20 17:17

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Originally Posted by Tornadium (Post 2655843)
Is there any information in the novels regarding membership in the organisation?

Off the top of my head... not much.


Spoiler for Volume 1:

Spoiler for Volume 8:

Although Koizumi mentions a "number" of Organization agents, we really only learn the identity of one for sure, and he's more of a mercenary than a "true believer". I think we can safely assume that he, at least, isn't an esper.

Speaking of said person:

Spoiler:

Tornadium 2009-09-20 17:23

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Originally Posted by worldruined (Post 2655965)
Off the top of my head... not much.


Spoiler for Volume 1:

Spoiler for Volume 8:

Although Koizumi mentions a "number" of Organization agents, we really only learn the identity of one for sure, and he's more of a mercenary than a "true believer". I think we can safely assume that he, at least, isn't an esper.

Speaking of said person:

Spoiler:

Heh, Fair enough.

Thanks!


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