AnimeSuki.com Forum

AnimeSuki Forum (http://forums.animesuki.com/index.php)
-   Light Novels (http://forums.animesuki.com/forumdisplay.php?f=157)
-   -   Densetsu no Yuusha no Densetsu [Light Novel] (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=97768)

NeoSam 2010-09-25 14:21

伝説の勇者の伝説
Densetsu no Yuusha no Densetsu

少年向けライトノベル
Shounen light novel (light novel series for boys).

Official site of the light novel series:
http://www.den-yu-den.jp/

The boy's light novel series Densetsu no Yuusha no Densetsu is published under the shounen(boy's) light novel label Fujimi Fantasia Bunko, and was also serialized in the young men's light novel magazine Dragon Magazine.

There are currently 24 volumes released of this light novel series.
Links to the available covers:

Densetsu no Yuusha no Densetsu light novels:



Dai Densetsu no Yuusha no Densetsu light novels:



Toriaezu Densetsu no Yuusha no Densetsu short story light novels:



Author: Kagami Takaya
Illustrator: Toyota Saori

A shounen manga adaptation of this shounen light novel series is serialized in the shounen manga magazine Dragon Age.

Mangaka: Chouzou Hiroko

Genre: Shounen, Fantasy

CrowKenobi 2010-09-25 14:26

The thread rules are simple:

You may talk about the light novels all you want (but please use appropriate spoiler tags), and keep said talk out of the anime thread.

Thank you. :D

EDIT: Oh, and please don't link to any sites hosting any translations. If any are found, the post will be deleted and warnings will be issued.

Used Can 2010-09-25 15:16

You forgot about Kuro, NeoSam. By now, there are 6 volumes of it. In addition, there's also that 4-koma, Nantonaku Densetsu no Yuusha no Densetsu.

Exether 2010-09-25 22:41

I've read some summaries on wikipedia and this seems to be a solid and interesting story, if it ever gets licensed I'm getting the books. :)

seiftis 2010-09-25 23:34

Now... if only someone is willing to spoil me with more juicy details of the story. :P

zodanhko 2010-09-26 00:41

I'm waiting for them too. Must be Patience...Patience...Patience....

I have a question...

Spoiler for Question:

Kunagisa 2010-09-26 01:23

Spoiler for Ryner's Alpha Stigma:


Gotta love it when he activated it and the damage it dealt.

Spoiler for Damage and cost:


Ryner is totally badass. Damn it, I wish I have time to keep reading instead of reading random pieces here and there.

zodanhko 2010-09-26 02:20

Spoiler for spoiler?:

Sparkwings 2010-09-26 02:44

Spoiler for about-demon:

ninja_pintu 2010-09-26 04:05

One question

Spoiler for anime op:

giorno 2010-09-26 04:09

about the pic
Spoiler:

Zetsuen_no_Myuu 2010-09-26 04:36

I want to know about "The Goddesses".

S-Spoiler me away.

agarvaen 2010-09-26 04:40

Question

Spoiler:

Used Can 2010-09-26 04:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by zodanhko (Post 3265861)
Spoiler for Question:

He awakened it after he got "killed" and his AS got stolen. The Solver of all Equations is the Lonely One's power, if I recall correctly.


It is also at this point that we learn of that woman within Ryner - which is later revealed by Lura to be Ryner's mother.

Master Anime 2010-09-26 05:03

Can someone tell me history about Demon, Hero & Goddess and their relations ? :D

KrebMarkt 2010-09-26 05:19

Can someone tell me about the Ryner bad-ass harem? :p

Used Can 2010-09-26 05:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrebMarkt (Post 3266080)
Can someone tell me about the Ryner bad-ass harem? :p

Well, by now, you probably know all of the girls, but the Azure Princess.

The girls are:
- Ferris
- Milk
- Kiefer
- Azure Princess

In terms of strength, Nº1 should be Milk when she goes goddess mode. The second place would either be for Ferris or for the Azure Princess (who is seriously badass, but a bitch as well - an awesome bitch, mind you). Kiefer isn't particularly strong, but her forte is gathering information.

Technically speaking, Milk has her own harem (i.e. the guys you've seen her with, in the anime). Kiefer also has 2 guys who like her, and these guys are Refal and Toale.

Sparkwings 2010-09-26 06:55

yes that's The Lonely One Demon, its not a usual Demon, its DemonLord
Spoiler for about-woman:


^
troll~

and the novel stucks at 8th volume~ :D

KrebMarkt 2010-09-26 07:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Used Can (Post 3266097)
Well, by now, you probably know all of the girls, but the Azure Princess.

The girls are:
- Ferris
- Milk
- Kiefer
- Azure Princess

In terms of strength, Nº1 should be Milk when she goes goddess mode. The second place would either be for Ferris or for the Azure Princess (who is seriously badass, but a bitch as well - an awesome bitch, mind you). Kiefer isn't particularly strong, but her forte is gathering information.

Technically speaking, Milk has her own harem (i.e. the guys you've seen her with, in the anime). Kiefer also has 2 guys who like her, and these guys are Refal and Toale.

Thanks :)

Poor Ryner not a single "normal" girl.

larethian 2010-09-26 11:34

Those who got your stuff from wiki, don't take it as 100% accurate. There are parts that can be misleading especially when passive forms are used.

example
Spoiler for for contract within Ryner:


There are also a few points shared here that I don't actually think are completely accurate. But I have to keep my peace till I re-read the novels to be sure.

I didn't want to publicize this till the anime is close to finishing, but I'm translating the sequel at B-T. It's a slow and thankless job. I can translate about 4-5 pages an hour (including thinking and typing time) and I think I'm decently fast, but still it will take time since I'm the only translator and I'm doing it in my spare time and not 24/7.

If anyone feels up to the task, can translate without using a software translator, have a good level of grammar proficiency (you need not to be at JLPT1 or 2 level, but at least know how to identify and look up fixed expressions in a dictionary), and is responsible (don't MIA without telling), just PM me at B-T. I know most Westerners have problems with Kanji, but I believe it's not an issue since most have furigana. Speed does not matter. Before you PM me, please try to translate at least 3 pages from the novel as an exercise. That way, you will know whether you are able to do it and whether you really want to do it. If you think you don't exactly fit the above, and still want to do it, do let me know anyway. But software translators are a no-no. :D


On a side note, I won't be contributing to spoilers much since I'm already working on the novels and it's like doing the same thing twice in a half-assed manner. :D

But just a few points though :D
Spoiler for about Ryner's AS & his dad:

Spoiler for about Ryner's true power without awakening:

Spoiler for ID of Lelouch in new OP:

Spoiler for mild spoiler for the Powers:

Spoiler for Ryner's harem?:

Spoiler for Pia aka Azure Princess:

Spoiler for best RynerxFerris moments - x moments are loosely defined:


The x-relationships that I would like to see at the end:
RynerxFerris for obvious reasons.
Spoiler for current state of their relationship:

ToalexKiefer
Spoiler for why:

zodanhko 2010-09-26 12:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by larethian (Post 3266420)
Spoiler for best RynerxFerris moments - x moments are loosely defined:

Wow, lots of nice moments right there. Can't wait to read your translations and thank you for doing the translations. :)


Spoiler for Pia aka Azure Princess:

"New King"- You mean literally, right?

azziz 2010-09-26 12:53

1.why voice wanted/asked ryner to become king?from wich country does he come from and what are his true (ulterior?)motive?is he really loyal to ryner or does he follow his or someone else hidden agenda(in order to use ryner and betray him?)?
and what about lucille(poor siscon seing his beloved sister he saved(twice?) with his other half):did he lie to shion or is he sincere?

2.is there some kind of good god or are they all evil?is this some kind of story where god/hero are evil while the demonlord(sad lonely demon??)is the one true good(you know like in shina dark and countless other A.,M.and L.N. story)?

3.has milk joined ryner(since you still count her in his harem) or is she still at shion side?what now is doing ryner's dad sinse his son remember him?


and i disagree about ryner being badass:if he need to kill someone he love each time he need to use his newfound power(why are his eyes called rulefragme-since they come from theD.L.-,and what are rulefragme to begin with?)...i know there must be some kind of limitation but who will he sacrifice next time,kiefer?

Angrypokstick 2010-09-26 12:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by zodanhko (Post 3266510)
"New King"- You mean literally, right?

Spoiler:

zodanhko 2010-09-26 13:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by azziz (Post 3266544)
and i disagree about ryner being badass:if he need to kill someone he love each time he need to use his newfound power(why are his eyes called rulefragme-since they come from theD.L.-,and what are rulefragme to begin with?)...i know there must be some kind of limitation but who will he sacrifice next time,kiefer?

From what I understand, a sacrifice is needed only if he activates the SoAE's full power, and only his loved ones can be used as a sacrifice, so I wonder if Kiefer meet that condition. If anything, I think his father or Ferris is more likely to be the candidate, but I have a hard time imagining that he'll use that power the second time.

azziz 2010-09-26 13:54

so must agree with me ryner is no that badass:no only he can't even defeat kluwe(you know the "shinigami-of small frie-with special right arm)but lucille who also have 1/2D.L. doesn't have that kind of limitation,as far as i'm aware-just can't leave roland.

lightbringer 2010-09-26 14:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angrypokstick (Post 3266547)
Spoiler:

Spoiler for ryner question:

Kunagisa 2010-09-26 14:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by lightbringer (Post 3266644)
Spoiler for ryner question:

Anti-Roland Federation.

DeadlySoldier37 2010-09-26 14:57

Hey Larethian thank you for translating the novels, unfortunately I cant speak Japanese so I don't think I can help. The only other Light Novel I read is Regios but that is getting kind of weird and personally I like Densetsu better.

@Azziz I think Ryner is pretty badass without the SOAE power. As Larethian said he doesn't need that he can perfectly fight without them and win, the reason he doesn't is because he doesn't want to hurt people around him.

ShiroiRyu 2010-09-26 15:48

Hum ... So ... One question : The second "part" of the novel is with the same heroes ? (The "Great" heroes)
So what is the différence between the others parts ? Like Anyways and Black Fallen ?

KrebMarkt 2010-09-26 16:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShiroiRyu (Post 3266773)
Hum ... So ... One question : The second "part" of the novel is with the same heroes ? (The "Great" heroes)
So what is the différence between the others parts ? Like Anyways and Black Fallen ?

Same characters between the two parts. First is a sort of necessary introduction for the second one.

Like Anyways short stories collections.

Black Fallen side-story happening before the first main series unless i'm mistaken.

pampz21 2010-09-26 19:29

Q>>>What are heroes anyway?
Is heroes being: hey i save many lives so now im a hero?
Is a demon lord being: hey i killed many people...would you call me a demon lord!
In wat category does Ryner,Sion,Ferris,Milan,Refal,Milk,Tiia,Clough,etc ...
From wat I read in wiki:
Ryner=has the power of a demon lord but a heart of a hero
Sion=King and made contract with the Mad Hero does that mean his bad?
Luccile=half Demon Lord? Guardian of Roland
Ruira(Ryner's dad)=Dad and user of the Demon Lord
Milk=Goddess?
Ferris=Heroine?
Milan=he killed many people so does it mean his a demon lord?

BTW in the first episode....
does the one hidin in the shadow the Lonely one...
the Knight has the Kami Kuraii power?
and why did he killed goddess(from the pic above)

larethian 2010-09-26 20:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by zodanhko (Post 3266618)
From what I understand, a sacrifice is needed only if he activates the SoAE's full power, and only his loved ones can be used as a sacrifice, so I wonder if Kiefer meet that condition. If anything, I think his father or Ferris is more likely to be the candidate, but I have a hard time imagining that he'll use that power the second time.

Spoiler for sacrifice SoAE mode & Rule Fragme:


my definition of badass == ownage, pwnage, and has nothing to do with literally being bad.


Quote:

Originally Posted by ShiroiRyu (Post 3266773)
Hum ... So ... One question : The second "part" of the novel is with the same heroes ? (The "Great" heroes)
So what is the différence between the others parts ? Like Anyways and Black Fallen ?

The author originally was planning to work the "sequel" (Great Heroes), but he realized the stuff he wanted to introduce into the story was too deep and difficult to understand without a proper introduction. So he worked on the LOLH as a story to set the stage, the background stories, and introduce various concepts of his world. LOLGH picks up immediately from where it left off in the last volume of LOLH. Throughout the prequel, he also wrote the "Anyway" series as side stories which take place in between the timeline in LOLH. Some of the characters in "Anyway", like Voice and Pia, later became part of the main story in LOLGH. There is a reading order for maximum enjoyment from the author: http://www.kagamitakaya.com/dendenyomikatagaid.html

The Black Fallen are stuff during the revolution.

Johnny 2010-09-26 20:31

Is the anime covering the novels at a decent pace or is all over the place?

Spoiler:

Sparkwings 2010-09-26 20:38

yes, about anime ...

Spoiler for anti-roland-coalition:

Angrypokstick 2010-09-26 21:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny (Post 3267068)
Is the anime covering the novels at a decent pace or is all over the place?

Spoiler:

the pace is kinda fucked up.though i don't blame them. I mean if they did try to put everything in it would be very slow. Durarara is a very good example of sticking as close to the source material as possible and being a good show to boot, and it took them 24episode to cover 4 volumes. in Denyudden as of ep 13 we are at vol5/6 makes sense for a 24ep anime covering 11vol.
Spoiler:

pampz21 2010-09-26 22:33

I was just browsing the LN...and I find it that Tiia will join Ryner's group?....are they travelling together without ferris?....is that going to cover too?

larethian 2010-09-26 23:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by pampz21 (Post 3267235)
I was just browsing the LN...and I find it that Tiia will join Ryner's group?....are they travelling together without ferris?....is that going to cover too?

Spoiler:

pampz21 2010-09-27 01:37

so wat does this mean?....does ino duwee user go berserk or he just like killing people.....that all!
thx for the confirmation BTW

cyberdemon 2010-09-27 03:07

So hows the relationship between Ryner and Ferris later in the LNs?

Used Can 2010-09-27 04:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angrypokstick (Post 3267152)
Spoiler:

I hope Reinhard and Yang show up soon. :p
I'd be happy with just Bittenfeld, though.

I wonder if Milan likes dogs.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:32.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.