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Rising Dragon 2009-11-02 11:07

Nothing can top G-Gundam in the way of ridiculous Gundam designs. Nothing.

This new beast-mode Astray, though, looks pretty cool. Its feet make me think that its got a shared heritage with the Astray Mirage Frame, or at least its Gladiator mode.

Okamidum 2009-11-02 11:23

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Originally Posted by SonicSP (Post 2742756)
Question:What's the average time does it take to complete a HG kit without any painting, linings or sanding?[The building process strictly]


I know that it differs greatly with different people with different kits,and some people paint or line before they build and all that,but I want to know a rough average estimation for the building process alone,if that is anybody here has one.Any input is appreciated.

It really all depends on the kit itself and your determination to make it look the best. It takes me anywhere from 2-4 hours.

kakakka 2009-11-02 12:01

Ah, I'm really slow. My fastest was 7 hours

I never tried to make my models into one go though.

Okamidum 2009-11-02 12:12

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Originally Posted by kakakka (Post 2744879)
Ah, I'm really slow. My fastest was 7 hours

I never tried to make my models into one go though.

I'm exactly the same way. A couple months ago I bought the 00 1/144 gundam designer colors. It took me around 5-6 hours because i wanted it to be cleaned and lined. I'm also in no rush either.

Spitfire 2009-11-02 15:07

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Originally Posted by Rising Dragon (Post 2744798)
This new beast-mode Astray, though, looks pretty cool. Its feet make me think that its got a shared heritage with the Astray Mirage Frame, or at least its Gladiator mode.

Um...that's because it IS the Mirage Frame.

Dynamite 2009-11-02 15:38

God dang.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...61d35f0e00.jpg

This boxart is really swaying me...

I know its looks kinda lame if you stare at it for a bit, because its just standing there. But it looks super cool in some weird way...

Have to say, best PG boxart out there. I mean, I wouldn't mind just displaying the box. The kit could be a piece of junk, but the box deserve like a frame.

Sworra 2009-11-02 15:53

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Originally Posted by kakakka (Post 2744879)
Ah, I'm really slow. My fastest was 7 hours

I never tried to make my models into one go though.

Don't feel so bad about being slow, it takes me about 3 to 4 months to finish one. But that isn't a fast build.. I should go and buy a 1/44 scale and not do anything to it and see what i get for time.

Amber.Dawn 2009-11-02 19:25

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Originally Posted by Dynamite (Post 2745170)
God dang.

This boxart is really swaying me...

I know its looks kinda lame if you stare at it for a bit, because its just standing there. But it looks super cool in some weird way...

Have to say, best PG boxart out there. I mean, I wouldn't mind just displaying the box. The kit could be a piece of junk, but the box deserve like a frame.

I like Ver. Ka boxes: nice, clean, elegant.

Amber.Dawn 2009-11-02 19:27

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Originally Posted by duotiga (Post 2744364)
hhmmm..metallic hguc Nu gundam/Sazabi coming....are you getting?(personally i find it looks a lot better than MG counterpart)

Possibly, although I've yet to finish my current models, and I'm a bit low on cash.

aardvark 2009-11-02 21:58

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Originally Posted by Dynamite (Post 2745170)
God dang.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...61d35f0e00.jpg

This boxart is really swaying me...

I know its looks kinda lame if you stare at it for a bit, because its just standing there. But it looks super cool in some weird way...

Have to say, best PG boxart out there. I mean, I wouldn't mind just displaying the box. The kit could be a piece of junk, but the box deserve like a frame.

Its like Bandai is rubbing salt in the wounds, considering that the kit apparently cant even pose the Raiser wings like on that cover

Dynamite 2009-11-02 23:41

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Originally Posted by aardvark (Post 2745781)
Its like Bandai is rubbing salt in the wounds, considering that the kit apparently cant even pose the Raiser wings like on that cover

Man I'm tired of this crap...

First of all, nobody has the kit yet. Stop second guessing it.

Second of all, this is THE most complex PG ever made. Its not just a frame on a articulated skeleton. So its bound to have problems.

Third of all, the kit that even comes close to having this type of "technology" is the PG Wing Zero Custom. It had its share of problems too, especially for its wings. Why? They're too heavy. Clearly the exact same problem that this kit *will* have.

There is seriously no way that this kit would be able to support a fully articulate Raiser. Bandai can come out with amazing technology and gimmicks, but they can't defy physics.

I mean, if you really wanted an articulated Raiser, just modify it yourself. What you're going to balance the thing on is up to you.

darkstrife 2009-11-03 00:23

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Originally Posted by Dynamite (Post 2745982)
Man I'm tired of this crap...

First of all, nobody has the kit yet. Stop second guessing it.

Second of all, this is THE most complex PG ever made. Its not just a frame on a articulated skeleton. So its bound to have problems.

a fully complete PG 00 model was completed by a modeller (he owns his own hobby shop) a few weeks ago (check NK blog), the pics that he took show that the wings on the raiser can't rotate at all which drastically reduces its poseability. i dont want to start an argument here, but before you accuse others, you should make sure that you are right yourself ;). this was also discussed in detail a few pages back in this thread.

however i do agree with u that PG 00 raiser is bound to have problems, but looking at the price tag of 25000 yen, we expect it to be 'Perfect', so the fact that it can't support the o-raiser wings is quite dissapointing... that was the reason that i'm not gonna get the kit... shame really, would of looked kickass in my living room :D

Dynamite 2009-11-03 00:43

Oh thats laughable.

Where was I wrong? Nobody has the kit yet. The store owner only released pictures. A picture could say a thousand words, but how many of them are lies or misconceptions?

Plus, a store owner having it is the equivalent of saying Bandai has one. Of course he has one. But is he going to anything substantial to inform us? No. So does it matter whether he has one or not? No.

So until dalong gets one, again, don't pass judgment on it.


Also, "Perfect Grades" are far from perfect. Thats like expecting a Navy Seal to be a seal. Its just a name. Just like how Master grade isn't built for Masters and I don't need a gram of hash to build a High Grade.

darkstrife 2009-11-03 00:50

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Originally Posted by Dynamite (Post 2746109)
Oh thats laughable.

Where was I wrong? Nobody has the kit yet. The store owner only released pictures. A picture could say a thousand words, but how many of them are lies or misconceptions?

Plus, a store owner having it is the equivalent of saying Bandai has one. Of course he has one. But is he going to anything substantial to inform us? No. So does it matter whether he has one or not? No.

So until dalong gets one, again, don't pass judgment on it.


Also, "Perfect Grades" are far from perfect. Thats like expecting a Navy Seal to be a seal. Its just a name. Just like how Master grade isn't built for Masters and I don't need a gram of hash to build a High Grade.

Why would a store owner lie about this? This is a negative thing, he is helping the gundam fans make an informed decision. It doesnt benefit him at all by doing this, if anything it might even hurt his sales

Amber.Dawn 2009-11-03 00:55

The things is, consumers expect Bandai to put more effort into the PG 00, given its price tag. If it were cheaper, I'm sure people would more readily accept it.

We expect to get what we pay for.

Dynamite 2009-11-03 01:02

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Originally Posted by darkstrife (Post 2746122)
Why would a store owner lie about this? This is a negative thing, he is helping the gundam fans make an informed decision. It doesnt benefit him at all by doing this, if anything it might even hurt his sales

Which is why I included "misconceptions" in there.

Again, until dalong gets it, I really don't care enough nor would I pass judgment on it. I don't plan to build one, but I already pre-ordered a small stock for my store. And quite honestly, being a retailer, if I had this kit, I wouldn't be so quick to release this information. As far as I'm concerned, this store owner clearly didn't consider his losses in doing this, or considered how big a deal Gunota would make of this.

So, bad move on his part. Hopefully none of my customers catch onto this news...lol.

kakakka 2009-11-03 01:09

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And quite honestly, being a retailer, if I had this kit, I wouldn't be so quick to release this information.
It was hyped, though, so early information is a must...I think.

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Hopefully none of my customers catch onto this news...lol.
It's easy to get info in the web.

Dynamite 2009-11-03 01:15

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Originally Posted by Amber.Dawn (Post 2746134)
The things is, consumers expect Bandai to put more effort into the PG 00, given its price tag. If it were cheaper, I'm sure people would more readily accept it.

We expect to get what we pay for.

And since when was there a model of this capacity? I don't see them going around making Strike Freedom PG's. Why? Because thats unfathomable.

I'm 110% surprised they even attempted the 00, let alone plan to release it. I thought they would make an Exia PG and make a 00 MG, which would be a brilliant move.

Just look at the majority of the previous PG's. The one that sticks right out is the Wing Zero Custom, because it isn't the same-old RX-78-esque model. But the Wing Zero kinda failed, with its heavy wings and loose joints.


So Bandai got smart this time around. They knew that they couldn't defy physics (and no, the Kshatriya gimmick wouldn't work on this scale), and they knew that customers would be HIGHLY displeased with the kit if they tried to pose the 0 Raiser and have it droop or even drop.

So rather than have that happen, or create the idea that they need a custom stand to do certain poses, Bandai just took out a "feature". So not too many people are displeased and would one day come to accept it, making it a success over time.

But if there was just a huge influx of rants, then nobody would ever buy it.

Great marketing, I'd say.

bio9205 2009-11-03 01:26

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Originally Posted by Dynamite (Post 2746180)
And since when was there a model of this capacity? I don't see them going around making Strike Freedom PG's. Why? Because thats unfathomable.

I'm 110% surprised they even attempted the 00, let alone plan to release it. I thought they would make an Exia PG and make a 00 MG, which would be a brilliant move.

Just look at the majority of the previous PG's. The one that sticks right out is the Wing Zero Custom, because it isn't the same-old RX-78-esque model. But the Wing Zero kinda failed, with its heavy wings and loose joints.


So Bandai got smart this time around. They knew that they couldn't defy physics (and no, the Kshatriya gimmick wouldn't work on this scale), and they knew that customers would be HIGHLY displeased with the kit if they tried to pose the 0 Raiser and have it droop or even drop.

So rather than have that happen, or create the idea that they need a custom stand to do certain poses, Bandai just took out a "feature". So not too many people are displeased and would one day come to accept it, making it a success over time.

But if there was just a huge influx of rants, then nobody would ever buy it.

Great marketing, I'd say.

I was thinking that they'd make both Exia and 00 MGs, but then the movie came along. My guess is they decided to make 00 a PG because they're probably going to make a MG 00 Quanta, and if there's a MG 00 Raiser as well, it wouldn't sell very well.

Saga_CE 2009-11-03 02:09

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Originally Posted by Dynamite (Post 2746109)
Plus, a store owner having it is the equivalent of saying Bandai has one. Of course he has one. But is he going to anything substantial to inform us? No. So does it matter whether he has one or not? No.

You are wrong. Sekita released pictures with arrows describing the articulations (Dalong-like) as well as textual explanations.

http://blog.livedoor.jp/gachi_muchi_...s/1153750.html
http://ngeekhiong.blogspot.com/2009/...imitation.html

So, please, cut the crap.


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