RIAA turns to ISPs instead of individual users
From pcmag.com (PCMagazine), RIAA is confirmed to fight piracy through making deals with ISPs then suing individual offenders. They will notify ISPs about individual users who share illegal files online, instead of filing lawsuits against them. The customers will get warnings from the ISPs, which, if ignored, may slow down the service or being cut off. MPAA has been doing so for a while now. The participating ISPs are not disclosed. For details, please see the link.
What do you guys think about this new strategy from RIAA? How is this going to affect anime fausub? Is this going to work? How is MPAA doing on the subject? |
This... doesn't really have anything to do with anime. The RIAA and MPAA are other entertainment sectors, music and movies respectively.
I figure the response will be more class-action countersuits rather than individual suits. The ISPs *need* to decide if they're going to go the "common carrier" route or the other --- and many analysts contend the other route opens them up for enormous pain (filtering, anti-childporn, etc) as they become responsible for the content being transferred. |
Since it is already being done, and no one seems to have done anything to stop that, I don't think it will create much disturbance in people's lives. At the end US still needs an ISP that will stand firm in front of those internet-police. And, I believe this has something to do with anime, since any company that has legality issues over Internet can force the same kind of action.
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ISPs want to be the middle man of content provider. As such, they don't like any online content. They want you to use their on demand crap.
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So instead of going through a court to stop you from downloading stuff, the RIAA is fashioning themselves as the court. This is more or less equivalent to the French Three-Strikes Law, except this isn't a government administering the law, it's a union of corporations. Nothing could possibly go wrong, amirite?
More people are going to get caught in the crossfire. |
Going to the court creates negative publicity, and I am sure they would want to avoid that as much as they can. Using the ISPs, they will share some of the blames with them, but, their action won't receive a lot of publicity. That means they can even be crueler, and the threat level will even be higher, because losing internet may be a much worse penalty for many people.
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It could be hell for dynamic IP users.
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I would doubt like Vexx said to be much about anime. If you compare anime to the download of TV series, hollywood movie sales to each other. Hollywood movies/TV series and MP3 download are their top priority.
All anime downloaded from animesuki are unlicensed ones at that too. (unless you get yours from else where) |
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can they tell if ppl uses mirc? thats how i usually get my fansubs :<
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You mean "irc" protocol ... Mirc is just one of many irc clients.
The article is about the RIAA --- who has absolutely NOTHING to do with fansubs or anime. But yes, at the moment, you're a bit safer from prying eyes in an IRC channel (though you could be more at risk from trojans and malware unless you stick to reputable fansubbers channels). |
You know, I feel sorry for the people who has to go the HARD way to get subs......
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What you say is the price they pay for going to the court to punish a single person based on that IP address. But, if they cooperate with the ISPs, they will directly target the source of that address. So, even if you share your connections with others, it won't help you. You are responsible for the connection you pay for, and that comes with a price. And, the 3 count will make sure, whether the source of the problem is you or something else. I also do hope that they will at least offer free help to people who may believe their connection is compromised. Quote:
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I only feel sorry for the people who does not have the connection to download anything, but, I doubt Korea counts as one of those, being one of the most advanced in that area. |
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So if an ISP threatens and they lose a customer, what next?
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Aye, very few people actually have more than one practical choice for broadband, so its pretty threatening. However, the ISPs really have no interest in doing the RIAA's work for them.
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It would be like someone coming to me about someone I just met and expecting me to discipline them for something that has nothing to do with me other than providing a service that they took advantage of someone else though. Ex: "Sure, I lent him my car. No, I didn't know he was going to heist a bank with it." |
Considering Comcast's response, I am sure they are very willingful to get rid of some customers (especially the ones who download a lot, who are also expected to upload some) with the help of file sharing excuse. Since they don't need to prove anything (especially for the 1st warning), at the end.
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Comcast is a strange entity in that they also have their *own* content they're pushing. They hate the idea that internet content is competing with their cable channel offerings.
Now that Verizon is starting to get into the FIOS television arena, it might get a bit weird (though FIOS is actually so UNavailable its hard to call it a service quite yet.. more of a pilot project). |
Too bad for you Americans. But they can't trace IRC downloads, can they? It's a good thing our country doesn't pay any attention to stuff like these. Internet here is a completely unregulated, free for all wild west, and our ISP's are too busy vying for more subscribers to consider taking them off the net.
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Here, in Finland, it's taking a similar turn and I heard that in Britain and France they are going to take even stricter hold. IMO, the discussion is turning slowly but steadily towards the regular topics:
a) "We must protect the children", b) "We must protect intellectual rights", and c) "We must weed out potentially harmful content to ensure safer networking." Just replace the culprit with Kopiosto or Gramex. So it's not just RIAA who is trying to seize control of Internet, but also governments and other official sources. Is it going to work? Eventually yes, which means that a lot of content will disappear. |
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If politicians try to do the same here they would be chastised for wasting their time and taxpayers' money. |
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They can also do it the Odex way. :heh: |
I think it's obvious what any intelligent person will do. Use a proxy, also why do "they" think this is the best way to solve this. Artists need to stop getting sponsored or whatever it is ( sorry can't remember the word I'm tired) remember what Radiohead did. They said pay us what you think it's worth and made more money.
@Thingle I think you're wrong these big corporations could and probably would bribe/fund the law through. |
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Who are "they" that think what is right for us? In my case, mayor and town council. In government scale it has to be the prime minister, president, and parlament members. In truth, only a few of them really know what is going on, so the decision will usually come from a select few people in leading position that think it's a great idea. They say do this and we make it possible because that's what we are paid for. I wouldn't blame government alone, though, because every decision must be carried out by willing people. Namely: ISPs and IT-departments. There are countless ways to undermine censoring, so if that isn't done, it must be because people are willing to accept it as a necessity. |
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