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Kairin

2012-02-23 00:06

Guilty Crown - Episode 18 Discussion / Poll

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Kakkou

2012-02-23 12:14

Well, it wasn't as rage-inducing as last week.

Spoiler for episode:

Sinestra

2012-02-23 12:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kakkou (Post 4021349)

Well, it wasn't as rage-inducing as last week.

Spoiler for episode:

Holy Shit i was RIGHT!!!!!!! about every single prediction except for one for the is episode oh my god sometime i love karma but sometimes i also hate knowing what the status quo is in anime. I guess that what happens with 20 years of viewing anime.

Klashikari

2012-02-23 13:35

For some reason, I couldn't remove the image of Felicia from Darkstalkers and Kerrigan from Starcraft when Inori charged in :heh:

"Decent" episode, although I wonder if it was really necessary to toss Arisa's gramps like that, especially how out of the left field he appeared there (it really seems that Tokyo became quite easily to sneak in, despite there was only 1 single entrance made so far).

But frankly, I'm more like puzzled by this "natural" felty of all soldiers to Gai: the inconditional loyalty displayed in this episode was more funny than I would expect. I would understand if he was basically Keido's right hand, but the way how they expressed their "mission/duty", it is as if Gai was the literal savior in this whole mess.

Shinji103

2012-02-23 14:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klashikari (Post 4021426)

I would understand if he was basically Keido's right hand, but the way how they expressed their "mission/duty", it is as if Gai was the literal savior in this whole mess.

Or they're brainwashed/being controlled, like Gai undoubtedly is.

And HELL ****ING YES, die bastard kids DIE! :bash: Just one left now, though it looks like Argo and Tsugumi have gotten off the hook. (well, there's still a chance Argo could die before series' end, but it looks like Tsugumi's going to make it, unless she dies with Daryl)

Sinestra

2012-02-23 14:42

i would like to point out that after this episode i am more sure than ever that Arisa is not making it to the end of the show. She has just as many death flags waving in the wind as Hare did.

Soji	2012-02-23 14:55

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Originally Posted by Sinestra (Post 4021484)

i would like to point out that after this episode i am more sure than ever that Arisa is not making it to the end of the show. She has just as many death flags waving in the wind as Hare did.

I can't belive what Gai say at the end ...come on you 're the fake and say something like this.
I happy thought about who is death...now what I want is that Shu go take back is girlfriend(can we say like this now right?:p)
And that Neo-Gai die :p

Sinestra

2012-02-23 15:04

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Originally Posted by Soji (Post 4021499)

I didnt understand all the dialog due to my nihongo still be limited. But this episode proved that this is not Gai. This Gai is the opposite of everything the original stood for. However, he has all of Gai's memories but its almost like his personality has been overwritten. So the body is real but the mind is fake.

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"Decent" episode, although I wonder if it was really necessary to toss Arisa's gramps like that, especially how out of the left field he appeared there (it really seems that Tokyo became quite easily to sneak in, despite there was only 1 single entrance made so far).

But frankly, I'm more like puzzled by this "natural" felty of all soldiers to Gai: the inconditional loyalty displayed in this episode was more funny than I would expect. I would understand if he was basically Keido's right hand, but the way how they expressed their "mission/duty", it is as if Gai was the literal savior in this whole

Im with you on this man. Why the hell did they feel the need to throw gramps into the mix this late in the game. The only reason i can think of is to complete Arisa turn to the other side by having her kill her own grandfather. However he did try to kill her first and he was a bad ass i wouldn't mess with him. However, Arisa did not seemed troubled by the fact she just killed her own grandfather.

Haruka ....well im not sure what to say here she seems to have the determination to do whatever it is shes going to do. But as the camera panned over and we see the pictures, she obviously still has a heart and she is still thinking of Shu, Mana and Gai. im more confused than ever. We have no clue why she is doing what she isor what and what her mind set is.

I agree with you on this crazy loyalty undying fanatical loyalty of these troops to Neo Gai. Gai is obviously just the puppet to get what Keido wants. Unless he ordered them to obey all commands from Gai. I just dont get it and it seems so fake as Arisa sudden loyalty to a organization and plan she knows nothing about. Her character is really pointless right now.

Soji	2012-02-23 15:10

Sinestra@ True. Still I want him die and that shu take back Inori.Seriously can these two have a break?

Tenchi Hou Take

2012-02-23 15:12

Wait so did Gai just become Japan's dictator?

Sinestra

2012-02-23 15:29

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Originally Posted by Tenchi Hou Take (Post 4021521)

Wait so did Gai just become Japan's dictator?

That remains to be seen but at this point in time Neo Gai has.
-Rendered Shu useless and has isolated him
-Taken all the students that have Voids for himself
-Has pretty much the entire GHQ military at his disposal
-An elite special forces unit that displays fanatical loyalty to him (Arisa is now part of this unit)
-Captured Inori (I called this one i knew they still needed her)
-Completely and utterly annihilated the UN's pacific fleet.
-Japan is under GHQ control completely which would make either Neo Gai or Keido the undisputed ruler of Japan. No one has the power to oppose them at the moment.

I would also like to say goodbye to Scythe Void user girl. She was the one that showed loyalty to Shu and also was one of the ones that went with him during the charge to destroy the ghost system. Im not sure if she tried to take on Gai because of what he forced out several students Voids hence killing them or because he attacked Shu either way she was the only that tried to put a fight but Neo Gai showed another power of his. To turn any Void user in crystal with the wave of his hand.

Soji	2012-02-23 15:31

Sinestra@ This made you wonder ...how the fuck Shu will take back Inori?O_o

Tenchi Hou Take

2012-02-23 15:33

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Originally Posted by Soji (Post 4021551)

Sinestra@ This made you wonder ...how the fuck Shu will take back Inori?O_o

Rebel organsation style. Either that or use his new hand to hax/asspull his way through.

Trudinh

2012-02-23 15:36

wait the episode is already out?? where u watch it?

Soji	2012-02-23 15:39

Tenchi Hou Take@

Spoiler for spoiler:

But my question still the same ..I mean new hand or not that is to much only for him.

Sinestra

2012-02-23 15:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soji (Post 4021551)

Sinestra@ This made you wonder ...how the fuck Shu will take back Inori?O_o

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tenchi Hou Take (Post 4021557)

Rebel organsation style. Either that or use his new hand to hax/asspull his way through.

Problem being Shu has no power right now and Inori is in the hands of Darth Gai. However Shu has proven that he can be resourceful. The way i see it in order for Shu to acquire his "Gods Hand" he needs to do a few things but he cant do it alone. Normally i would put this in the speculation thread but im using info based on the current episode.

-Link up with anyone who is still resisting (Tsugumi and the rest because they did not go with Gai and or get in touch with the UN and try to get some troops on the ground)
-formulate a plan
-Break into GHQ headquarters
-Take Inori back
-Figure out what the hell is going on so he can stop it once and for all
-Destroy the 3rd Genome even if it means killing Haruka
-POWA UP
-Destroy any and all data that would allow this type of shit to happen again. As a -matter just Destroy EVERYTHING
-PWN EVERYONE
-Fight Gai in a place where he wont any access to Void users and take his ass down like Obi wan kenobi took down Anikin Skywalker
-Tell anyone left alive like Ayase,Haruka,Tsugumi and anyone who screwed in the past to SUCK ONE and roll out.
-Find a quiet tropical island with Inori drink some Maitai's listen to some Egoist and get busy on the beach :heh:

These are just the basic things i thought of based on the information we got from the episode

Soji	2012-02-23 15:54

Sinestra@ Well you're right .I don't think shu want to wait.Or try to gain their help.I mean he do know what they want to do with inori(he was there the first time ...in ep 12).
but i really do want that Shu and Inori gain their happy ending after all this crap tha they go through.

Tenchi Hou Take

2012-02-23 15:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sinestra (Post 4021570)

Problem being Shu has no power right now and Inori is in the hands of Darth Gai. However Shu has proven that he can be resourceful. The way i see it in order for Shu to acquire his "Gods Hand" he needs to do a few things but he cant do it alone. Normally i would put this in the speculation thread but im using info based on the current episode.

Link up with anyone who is still resisting (Tsugumi and the rest because they did not go with Gai and or get in touch with the UN and try to get some troops on the ground)
formulate a plan
Break into GHQ headquarters
Take Inori back
Figure out what the hell is going on so he can stop it once and for all
POWA UP
Destroy any and all data that would allow this type of shit to happen again. As a matter just Destroy EVERYTHING
PWN EVERYONE

Fight Gai in a place where he wont any access to Void users and then beat his ass from Tokyo to Mt Fuji and then back again.

These are just the basic things i thought of

Logically most of that would happen if the writers bothered to develop this rescue plan properly though I don't see Shu defeating Gai without access to voids. Most probably they'll both have access to them, since that seems to be the natural progression of this story.

Soji	2012-02-23 15:57

The first thing Shu need is take Inori back..For his own mental health then he can deal with this Neo Gai and the other.

orion

2012-02-23 16:09

I'm for taking back Inori and his hand and getting the heck out of there. Let those idiots die. :heh:

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