Chapter 363 Discussion
Welcome to the weekly manga chapter discussion thread. This thread is created early to discuss spoilers and speculation about the upcoming chapter.
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Ah man, looks like my self and Hunter saw this around the same time. I don’t know if its the fact that its 4:30 A.M., or all the “crap” that spilled out in the up and coming chapter, that’s making me feel all.. “ZOMGWTFBBQ!!!!1111”
Where to start . . ., ok aside from how Sasuke survives the blast being utter and total bull shit, I wont even go in to that till the actual chapter comes out and we see how it really played out, also because we pretty much have to believe anything that Kishimoto throws at us. Tobi is dead? WHAT!?!? "The Real / Fake Akatsuki Leader" and the Unknown Member revealed ?!?!? WHAT THE HELL!!!!!!? I suspected that guy wasn’t the real leader, I always thought it was the Unknown Member, it looks like I was only half right! The only thing that comes to mind is Naruto manga is going to be ending very soon, also I feel like Kishimoto ditched Tobi. I think originally Tobi was meant for something but it feels like Kishimoto is trying to pack things up and quit while he is ahead, I mean face it lately there's been allot of “hoo, haa” about his writing so I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s trying to "cop out" its just so hard to believe that Tobi was a useless character, placed there for burst moments of comedic humor, and mindless entertainment? Its not just the Tobi thing its the whole revelation of "The Higher Power" (Makes you wonder if the AL is really the AL) and the Unknown Member, and orders from a higher power being "You must be the one to kill Naruto" all this, one cant help but get the feeling Kishimoto is trying to pack it up and end the Manga as soon as possible. What’s going on Kishi!!! What is going on! Then again, maybe Kishimoto is just trying to make his Manga "interesting" again, kind of like a kick start I mean who the hell saw this coming? Seriously. Also, this revelation of the "the higher power pulling strings", it might not end with Akatsuki, its possible for there to be more arc's after Akatsuki, so maybe the Manga is not ending anytime soon, its expanding! Ahh can't wait for the chapter! Considering it should be a double issue, the spoiler doesn’t disclose much information, there is most likely allot more. Blah~ More comments later to come once I'm actually awake and not half dead. (Tobi can't be dead its a ploy I tell ya! A PLOY!) Edit: On a good note (if you consider this a good note) Some of the mind numbing theories about "Who is the Akatsuki Leader?", "Who is the Unknown Member?" and finally "Who is Tobi?" can finally stop! Sort of, cause he is not even the leader, however now a new generation of theories will be born about the higher power. >_<, I'll laugh if some one claims the higher power is Tobi LOL! (I don’t see the Tobi one as a good thing, Grrrr *wants to bite kishimoto* I can't believe Kishimoto blew away all three of those in one shot!!!!!!!!! OMG) P.S. Her name is prounced Payne... but spelled Pein. . .? What is this Final Fantasy X and Final Fantasy X-2? Are we going to see Yuna and Rikku too >_>? |
This is going to be one hell of a chapter. I am upset as hell that they just kill off Tobi like that. There was so much potential there.. and if Tobi died, how does Sasuke survive? I'm a bit confused about the whole part with Manda.
And wtf AL leader and new girl revieled! Neither of which are characters we've seen. Not an Uchiha, not 4th, someone new. Thank god all that debate will be over. And ahhhhhhhhhhh I need to read it, Gotta find the raws, this is when I am glad I can read Japanese. |
Wtf, wasn't Sasuke low on chakra...he could still easily summon Manda and cast a genjutsu on him?
I sure hope Tobi's not really dead...since he survived that blade swipe, maybe he'll somehow survive this too. ...and finally!...More on the AL (well the supposed one up until now) and that girl...seems the guy's from the rain village. I guess a lot the theories about him are down the drain now. But I'm sure now they'll all be directed towards the new guy. ...something else that's weird if that spoiler is really true and the wording is relatively correct...wouldn't they want Naruto alive like all the other jinchuuriki? |
This is a major turn of events for most of us O.O. The Akatsuki Leader looks a lot cooler than I thought. I thought he looked a lot like a punker Naruto at first glance of that picture lol. I am kind of disappointed that he isn't from a more significant village like Konoha. It would just make him that much more interesting. But oh well, this is a shocking turn of events anyway, another cliffhanger chapter instead of revelations I bet.
The whole Manda thing is confusing me, need to read it to see it. * Is it me or they've changed AL's hair completely? I'm looking at this picture and the old ones and I don't see a resemblance at all. |
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is it confirmed? i mean sasuke summoning manda and casting genjutsu with no chakra, tobi s death kisames argument all doesnt make sense...tobi is a char that needs to be revealed not killed.and how did kisame felt dei dei is gone?how did sasukle survived?how did suigetsu pop up from nowhere? if suigetsu felt/see the explosions then team naruto would too according to radius math :D there are too many openings in this spoiler for me...
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So, in order for Manda to co-operate Sasuke put Manda under a genjutsu, and then entered his body, meaning resting inside Manda or took refuge inside him, think about it like Jiraiya's frog stomach summoning jutsu. Quote:
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the AL looks like Naruto so much, it's like he's older brother
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This is really interesting. I'm very surprised, unexpected things happened, and I really hope Tobi is not going to die. He is one of the Characters that I thought was going to show real potential.
Kishi bastard, don't take Tobi away! :mad: |
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he reminds me of Yondaime Spoiler for 363:
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like i said either the spoiler is too shallow and misleading or this chapter sux hard...especially if tobi is ging to die... |
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None the less, the spoiler is definitely real its from Himajin its just lacking is all, just going to have to wait for the chapter. Also can't you see Hunter's spoiler tag? " confirmed spoiler translated by Sho:" |
if the spoiler is confirmed then it is amazing IMO very big turn of events and a lot of things are unexpected, Tatami we didn't know where the hell was Suigetsu to begin with so yes he can show up at any time, the AL and the girl are revealed, if Tobi is going to die let him die he didn't do anything special since he appeared, people want him alive because they want him to be Obito maybe Kishi knows that so he tells them sorry there is Tobi dead lol in this chapter Kishi is simply doing the opposite of what people thought and maybe Tobi will survive, Sasuke cut him in half and he regeneraed i think so maybe he has something under his sleeve.
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if we take sasuke as centr point , 'the balst is 10 km radius so anybody to live must be at least 10 km away.plus naruto teams radius is 5 km. , karin is in 15 km. so suigetsu must be around that distance. so suigetsu coming and no other people is highly unlikely for me...why would he return to sasuke?why not any other member? also i want tobi alive not because of the link with obito which i dont believe there is.his comic relief is fun and why kill such a char which is built up carefully? |
Suigetsu popping out of nowhere would be the lamest thing ever. But it could happen, this is just shonen manga.
The other thing that's lame is that Manda can protect Sasuke from the blast. This blast is supposed to be uncounterable, at least at ground zero. Maybe 1 km away Manda could do the job, but Sasuke was right next to Deidara. However i will be ok with this solution if Manda dies in the process. So i hope the price is Manda's life, than Deidara didn't die for nothing. Anyway Manda would be useless against Itachi if he can disable it with a genjutsu. Some years ago we had a debate of how could Itachi be stronger than sannins who have giant summons. My idea was that he could use MS to either cast genjutsu or do an amaterasu and burn them to death. From this spoiler it seems that even the regular sharingan can beat a boss summon. Well it was to be expected after we saw Sasuke in Naruto's mind dealing with the demon fox. A mere Manda cannot stand in the way of the great sharingan :D I think that Tobi survived, however if his ability and past will be explained when Zetsu is properly introduced than there's no reason to let Tobi live. If there is someone who commands the akatsuki leader than it could be that Tobi is secretly that person's subordinate who is reporting to that person about akatsuki. Anything can be possible, i guess those who think the real leader is Madara will now be happy, and we will have more theories about the real leader being Madara, who is also the 3rd MS user. Also those who have theoires about Itachi being on a secret mission may be happy now, Itachi maybe wants to defeat the real leader, and maybe the Uchiha clan was killed by Madara after all :D |
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You could be right, of course, but every mystery revealed brings up more questions. Every time a member of Akatsuki dies it brings us that much closer to end of this saga, but the story has to move on somehow. I do agree that this chapter marks a major turning point and does lay the ground for the final confrontation with Akatsuki, especially now that the (faux) AL has been called to deal with Naruto himself. He's made his full appearance and does resemble Naruto and Yondaime a little, but unfortunately for Yondi fans doesn't seem to have a relation with either of them being that he's apparently from the Rain village. The unnamed member looks pretty much like how everyone expected. That only leaves the question of who is the real leader (Madara enthusiasts get a chance) As for Sasuke's escape, I'll say nothing about it because we all know he had to escape somehow. I'm not sure Tobi is really dead. It seems likely if 3 members stated that he died, however I still think there's a chance he survived. But if it's true, like 0Taku0 said, it was pretty much a waste of a character, especially after giving him such a strange ability and not putting it to real use. |
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All the "AL" is Yondy, or "AL" is Madara might not apply to the "AL" any more, however everything that did can now apply to the "Higher Power", hell I was even considering my old Itachi is a good guy theory to be true, considering Itachi's lack of interest for killing his opponents, he might just be trying to kill the "higher power" because it was he who killed the Uchiha clan, making Sasuke his next of kin just incase he fails. Meh at this point almost anything would make sense. Quote:
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