Shakugan no Shana II - Episode 24 [END] Discussion / Poll
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Kristen
2008-03-27 08:36
Ah, yay! It's here!
My predictions are that Shana will die in a noble way, like slicing off the head of Bel Peol while being stabbed or something, Yuji will recover the Reiju Maigo and kill Hecate, and Margery will kill both the Silver and Metamorphoses. Then Yuji will confess his love to Yoshida Kazumi, and we all have a happy end!
:p
Basically, I'm expecting some sort of resolution in this episode. I don't know what it is going to be, but I don't think they're going to try for a 3rd season.
DX HBK
2008-03-27 09:12
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Originally Posted by ChrissieXD
(Post 1489588)
Ah, yay! It's here!
My predictions are that Shana will die in a noble way, like slicing off the head of Bel Peol while being stabbed or something, Yuji will recover the Reiju Maigo and kill Hecate, and Margery will kill both the Silver and Metamorphoses. Then Yuji will confess his love to Yoshida Kazumi, and we all have a happy end!
:p
Basically, I'm expecting some sort of resolution in this episode. I don't know what it is going to be, but I don't think they're going to try for a 3rd season.
Then who the heck gets to kill Dantalion and Fecor?
The ending is probably going to be more like the ending done for Halo 2.
Deathscyther
2008-03-27 09:26
If they're going to end it, we'll probably get a confession. The chance of someone dying would be very high then as well. This could turn out to be one of the best episodes of the season or as complete junk. I'm hoping for the first one of course.
And while some part of me says that it's better to end the series here, another part says that there will be a season 3. They can't destroy the whole balle masque in one episode and I can't see the series ending without the balle masque being destroyed or something like that.
Dragon-Emperor
2008-03-27 10:40
Imo no one will die, but a confession will come RIGHT at the end where something will go horrible wrong/unexpected - and then the credits will start and it will zoom in on everyones shocked face - and then we will wait 6 months or more to see what's going to happen!
Sure the season will end, but there is WAY too much going on to 'end' the entire series. We'll see in a few hours.
DeotoxSlayer
2008-03-27 12:58
Ther's no wayJ .C staff gonna end the story here, there too much of the actuall story left uncovered, and J.C isn't stupid enough to make an anime only series ending, for SnS, especially since SnS is probably the biggest money maker J.C has.
I'm expecting a huge fight, and something else, but ifthat something doesn't happen then i'm expecting another Shana confession which is unheard by Yuji again, then in Episode 1 of season 3 we'll find out Yuji didn't hear it.
CapoExecutor
2008-03-27 13:15
J.C. Staff has still yet to make an OVA as well as additional Shana-tan specials.
Arnaiyus
2008-03-27 13:23
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Originally Posted by DX HBK
(Post 1489639)
The ending is probably going to be more like the ending done for Halo 2.
I lol'ed at that. I personally think that a confession will occur, but what remains a big mystery for me is what they intend to do with Kazumi...the way she looked at the hougu in the preview was different than the thousand times she did in the previous episodes and left me wondering if we'll see Pheles again. It won't be long now!
karinvampire
2008-03-27 13:34
what times does it air?
DeotoxSlayer
2008-03-27 13:40
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Originally Posted by karinvampire
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what times does it air?
I think the better question is why you voted 9/10 even though you haven't seen the episode...
Arnaiyus
2008-03-27 13:40
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Originally Posted by karinvampire
(Post 1490103)
what times does it air?
"Soon". Notice how I tied Blizzard to this joke lol
karinvampire
2008-03-27 13:56
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Originally Posted by DeotoxSlayer
(Post 1490118)
I think the better question is why you voted 9/10 even though you haven't seen the episode...
because i'm never dissponited with the episodes so I have no doubt that this will be good too.
Kinny Riddle
2008-03-27 14:25
Finally saw it.
Spoiler for Tagged just to be safe:
As Margery is out of the picture, Shana and Wilhelmina fight 2-on-2 with Hecate and Sydonay. The two Bal-Masque Lords proved to be formidable opponents, even Hecate can hold her own against Shana and Wilhelmina.
Soon, the Flame Hazes are in a disadvantage, though they quickly realize that the two Lords hesitated when their backs were faced towards the clock tower/statue, so they used that as an advantage to buy time and make an opening.
Inside, Yuji retrieves the Blutsauger, declaring his intent to protect Shana. (Lame and cliched as his proclamation sounds though, Yuji at least sounds like a decent male protagonist once again. :cool: )
though his PoE is running out fast, and he becomes semi-transparent. Wilhelmina creates a diversion for Shana to enter the statue, and she meets up with Yuji. Though this means Wilhelmina has to fight two.
As Shana and Yuji head towards the "heart" of the statue, it is activated by the Professor and breaks out of its blue egg shell. Before it can cause widespread panic, Margery manages to open up her Fuuzetsu while still badly wounded. But time is running short, as the statue begins to grow wings in an attempt to fly out of the Fuuzetsu.
Yuji and Shana finally reach the inner chamber of the statue, where they come face to face with "Silver". A fight ensues, Yuji realizes the Reiji Maigo is inside Silver's "heart", though neither he nor Shana are able to overpower Silver, who seems to be "remote controlled" by Hecate outside.
As Hecate/Silver is about to deal a finishing blow to Yuji, for some reason, the shot missed completely, causing Hecate to look confused. Yuji is able to take advantage of the lapse to retrieve the Reiji Maigo, allowing Shana to finish Silver off, for now at least.
Without the Reiji Maigo and Silver to power it, the statue collapses. Watching from afar, Bel-Peol, typical of the villain mastermind, sort of expected something like this could happen (concerning Hecate's hesitation). Bal-Masque decides to retreat for now. Before leaving, Hecate is further surprised that she is crying.
All this time Yoshida never really used the Hougu Pheles gave her, since she decides to place her trust in Yuji being able to survive this. Thus this plot device is completely wasted and legions of Yoshida-haters are disappointed she survived till the end.
As the credits roll, a special ED "sense" by Kawada Mami plays, showing the various characters and what they're doing. It shows Shana and Yoshida once again waiting for Yuji to make his choice.
From Yoshida standing and on the verge of tears and Shana turning around and looking delighted, it's highly implied that Yuji chose Shana, thus hopefully making some of the more moderate Yoshida-haters more or less satisfied.
In a nutshell, a rushed ending. Though I'm not complaining about the Hecate bits, if it's development, even though it's all original, she's got the most interesting ones.
The whole series: Could certainly do better. JC Staff might as well concentrate on making a Shana movie or OVA series instead, seeing as how the movie was infinitely superior.
And now fans go back, and hope in a few years time that there'll be a season 3.
Crisano
2008-03-27 14:27
10. This episode deserves a 10.
Spoiler for Episode 24 thoughts:
Man, where to start! First of all, the fight scenes where so freaking amazing; nicely animated, too. Also, as soon as I saw Kazumi "using" the Hougu, I was yelling, "Nooooooooooooooooo!" only to find that she didn't end up using it. Geez, they almost gave me a heart attack. Also, it was good to see that Hecate didn't forgot about the times "she" spent with Yuji and company. It was touching, when she cried and pondered about her feelings. Lastly, the ending song freaking rocks. I'm definitely buying the song when it's out. The ending was replaced with a sequence, like last season. I think Yuji ends up choosing Shana, as Shana smiles and Kazumi begins to cry. Of course, I'm not 100% sure.
ForgedGlory
2008-03-27 14:33
If Yoshida cried, then its automatically EPIC WIN! lol XP
D a m i e n
2008-03-27 14:46
Spoiler:
havent seen it yet, but from what i saw from the spoiler is it a conventionnal ending and nothing mindblowing (not like S2 was anything else than 90%filler but anyway).
i would have like to see something a bit different, a few deaths : margery dying giving her sidekick the final chara-devellopemt and the 2 main protagonist not ending as a couple. it s so cliche to always have the 2 mains characters ending up happy ever after. An anime ending where both characters would end up as "partner/cooworker" yet having both their own private life would be refreshing for once.
DX HBK
2008-03-27 14:48
Second time that the Balle Masque underestimated the unexpected factor named Sakai Yuji. But I guess the whole Konoe arc wasn't completely useless in the end. Second time that Hecate displays emotion.
Another year and a half before the third season emerges. Can't there be some anime original enemies in the third season because the Balle Masque is just FUCKIN' BORING! Balle Masque doing this... Balle Masque planning that...
Throw in some third party elements and make this Maelstrom of Warfare that is in Misaki City turn into a free-for-all where everyone can try killing each other 24/7! (fuel to rant now at zero).
goombas
2008-03-27 14:52
the first season was good and this season was full of random slice of life stuff. i wonder what awaits us next season, a harem atmosphere like ZnT 2nd Season? xDDDD
Triple_R
2008-03-27 15:01
Spoiler for Shana II Episode 24:
I haven't watched the episode yet as I perfer to wait for the English subs - so I don't know how spectacular/well-rendered the action scenes were - but from reading the spoilers here on anime suki... the plot ending aspect of things sounds really lame and uninspired to me.
Kazumi loses to Shana, and she doesn't summon Pheles?
Man... where's the twist? The surprise? Some event other than cool action scenes that makes the last episode stand out in a good way?
All of the build-up over Kazumi/Pheles/the houga was wasted, especially since Kazumi lost.
Well, at least the love triangle has been resolved, but in a predictable fashion, and with out any shocking last minute surprises in the way of character deaths or anything of the sort.
DeotoxSlayer
2008-03-27 15:03
Spoiler:
Is seriously doubt that Shana actually won, when they make a season 3 they'll make up an excuse for Kazumi being slightly weepy