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Chiu_fan 2011-02-23 08:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoweGear (Post 3500964)
More MG 00 Raiser:



And I think I know where the MG Epyon rumors came from...

Spoiler for Gundam Epyon Version Katoki:


Spoiler for MG EPYON ANNOUNCEMENT?!?!:

MG 00 Raiser: Finally. Looks great, though looking closely. Are those hands where you have to change the fingers like the MG Wing series?

MG Epyon ver. Ka: :twitch::twitch::twitch:...........

rocawarde 2011-02-23 08:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoweGear (Post 3500964)
More MG 00 Raiser:

And I think I know where the MG Epyon rumors came from...

Spoiler for Gundam Epyon Version Katoki:


Spoiler for MG EPYON ANNOUNCEMENT?!?!:

OMG!!! FINALLY! Dreams do come true:hyper-^v^::hyper-^v^::hyper-^v^:

helois 2011-02-23 08:29

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Originally Posted by LoweGear (Post 3500964)
More MG 00 Raiser:


the two condesers!!!



MG Epyon could be awesome..

CsrFSeiei 2011-02-23 08:57

MG 00 Raiser :D!!
That should be a must!!!

DarkWarrior 2011-02-23 09:26

Oh shoot, looks like I was wrong. MG Epyon is here! Not sure if I like the redesign though, definitely need to see more clearer images.

Elo the Blue 2011-02-23 11:19

Can't wait to see the colored MG Epyon.

Araxiel 2011-02-23 17:50

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Originally Posted by StrikeFreedomV2 (Post 3500960)
Seems like their using average sized beam sabers this time. Good decision :)

Seconded. The beam parts on the RX-78-2 are just too long. Awkward and heavy.

Butagami 2011-02-23 18:44

WTF, I don't check this thread for a week, and suddenly all kinds of awesome things pop up -.-

RG Aile strike New Pics: the lower thruster looks kinda large, but that's probably me.

MG 00 Raiser: I liked the 00, but wished they'd gone for a different pilot's suit for a change (Definitely part of the "Go MG Dynames"-group :) )

MG Epyon: Whoa, a new Wing MG -another one-, and not one of the 5 main gundams? Ver. KA.???? DO WANT, too poor though :P

I guess this may bring a MG Wing Zero tv version a step closer... Damn you bandai, making me all hopeful...

MakubeX2 2011-02-23 19:26

6500 yen and all we get is one single LED for the MG OO ? Can't complain there as it is expected of Bandai when they already skimmed on the LEDs for the regular MG Exia, MG GN-X and MG OOQ.

And there's that nagging feeling that, when Bandai decieded to show the vanilla OO and not the OO-Raiser in both photos which was showned thus far, they had not solved the nagging weight issues that plauged every OO-Raiser model releases. Come May, I will not be surprise that the MG OO-Raiser will topple with a breeze. With or without stand.

Blazer-X 2011-02-23 22:27

So glad I didn't pick up that 1/100 Epyon during NYAF (where they had it pretty damn cheap). Can't wait to see MG Epyon ver. EW in more details. I've been waiting for this kit ever since watching the original series and EW years ago.

Hopefully, its not TOO different from the original Epyon (would suck if its a different color completely). Still waiting on that Tallgeese III.

SonicSP 2011-02-23 22:27

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Originally Posted by MakubeX2 (Post 3501944)
6500 yen and all we get is one single LED for the MG OO ? Can't complain there as it is expected of Bandai when they already skimmed on the LEDs for the regular MG Exia, MG GN-X and MG OOQ.

And there's that nagging feeling that, when Bandai decieded to show the vanilla OO and not the OO-Raiser in both photos which was showned thus far, they had not solved the nagging weight issues that plauged every OO-Raiser model releases. Come May, I will not be surprise that the MG OO-Raiser will topple with a breeze. With or without stand.

Yeah. I wont be surprised either but seeing as I like the 00 alot, I'm hoping they fix it although it appears to be a very hard engineering problem to solve.

Blazer-X 2011-02-23 22:36

Even the almighty PG couldn't handle it?

justavisitor 2011-02-23 22:40

Thank you to LoweGear for the RG aile pic

hmm...backpack seems quite large...wonder whether the strike can stand properly??

Chiu_fan 2011-02-24 08:20

Found a review on the MG Deathscythe Hell Custom
I don't remember it having purple limbs before. And it seems the faceplate really does have the defect.:(

LoweGear 2011-02-24 08:23

More Upcoming Model Pics:

Spoiler for RG Aile Strike Gundam:


Spoiler for MG 00 Raiser:

kakakka 2011-02-24 09:34

LOL, looks like there's weight issues on MG 00 Raiser

velocity7 2011-02-24 09:39

Even the MG 00 Qan[T] had some weight issues here and there.

The RG Aile Strike looks interesting, probably one of the few SEED units that I'm comfortable with; Astray moreso.

LoweGear 2011-02-24 09:55

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Originally Posted by kakakka (Post 3502778)
LOL, looks like there's weight issues on MG 00 Raiser

I really wouldn't use the glass blocks as indications of weight problems with a particular model kit. ALL gunpla model kits with such overhanging parts previewed in Dengeki Hobby Magazine have had the glass blocks (the first time I saw them was on the MG Freedom Gundam magazine preview back in 2004).

Hell, even the model kits that aren't supposed to have weight issues are posed with the supporting glass blocks, like this one

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/2...k8mgdz1.th.jpg

kakakka 2011-02-24 10:30

But it still doesn't remove the doubts though. Using blocks for overhanging parts just gave that vibe. And its not like its unexpected for the MG to have weight issues.

Exia_00 2011-02-24 11:54

Hmmm I hope they somehow did something better with the stability of 00R over 00Q, i doubt it but hey doesnt hurt to hope...

Katoki Epyon, had no idea He redesigned that one, i was hoping to finally see the tv version of the Wing Zero, or unless there is a katoki of that but isnt that the same as wing design he made?

LoweGear 2011-02-24 12:00

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Originally Posted by Exia_00 (Post 3502908)
Hmmm I hope they somehow did something better with the stability of 00R over 00Q, i doubt it but hey doesnt hurt to hope...

Katoki Epyon, had no idea He redesigned that one, i was hoping to finally see the tv version of the Wing Zero, or unless there is a katoki of that but isnt that the same as wing design he made?

From my impression, Katoki already had his own redesign of the Epyon made years ago, as shown by a CGI of the Epyon bird mode from his Gundam FIX artbook. It's only now that we see his design in MS mode.

And the Wing Zero Custom is already Katoki's rendition of the Wing Zero in every sense.

Exia_00 2011-02-24 12:06

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Originally Posted by LoweGear (Post 3502918)
From my impression, Katoki already had his own redesign of the Epyon made years ago, as shown by a CGI of the Epyon bird mode from his Gundam FIX artbook. It's only now that we see his design in MS mode.

And the Wing Zero Custom is already Katoki's rendition of the Wing Zero in every sense.

I guess then i only saw that tiny artwork of the 5 gundams in the designs he made on the box of the wing fix figuration couple yrs back, its the same as an image posted recently

LoweGear 2011-02-25 09:05

Better quality scans of the MG Epyon:



Also, MG Shenlong boxart:


Kuroi Hadou 2011-02-25 09:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoweGear (Post 3504685)

:love::love::love:

Elo the Blue 2011-02-25 12:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoweGear (Post 3504685)

Also, MG Shenlong boxart:


That is ******* sweet!

Butagami 2011-02-25 15:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoweGear (Post 3504685)
Better quality scans of the MG Epyon:



Also, MG Shenlong boxart:


I'm really curious about what the colors will be for this beast of a suit... Hopefully just like the tv version, not some weird color *coughSandrockCough*


As for the Shenlong, nice boxart (better than D-Hell) Are those Aries' he's tearing up Ver. Ka. too ??

~Destiny~ 2011-02-25 18:27

Even if it's some new colour scheme. It shouldnt be hard to re-colour it back to it's original tv colours

LoweGear 2011-02-25 20:03

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Originally Posted by Butagami (Post 3505178)
As for the Shenlong, nice boxart (better than D-Hell) Are those Aries' he's tearing up Ver. Ka. too ??

The Aries was a Katoki design in the first place. In fact, Katoki designed all of the non-Gundam antagonist mobile suits in the TV series, from the Leo to the Virgo to the Tallgeese. Katoki also designed the Maganac mobile suits in the series.

Only the Gundams themselves were designed by Okawara, though with the Glory of the Defeated the move to make Gundam Wing 'All Katoki' so to speak is now finished :heh:

Butagami 2011-02-26 06:09

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Originally Posted by LoweGear (Post 3505580)
The Aries was a Katoki design in the first place. In fact, Katoki designed all of the non-Gundam antagonist mobile suits in the TV series, from the Leo to the Virgo to the Tallgeese. Katoki also designed the Maganac mobile suits in the series.

Only the Gundams themselves were designed by Okawara, though with the Glory of the Defeated the move to make Gundam Wing 'All Katoki' so to speak is now finished :heh:

Haha, didn't know that. Fail on my part. I've always wondered why they had to make it "all Katoki". I liked the original gundams more. It's also kind of sad for Okawara, that his designs are now retconned into Katoki's. I've read somewhere that the Ver. Ka. versions were actually the original designs, but technical limitations made them switch to Okawara ones...is this true?

MakubeX2 2011-02-26 08:41

http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/5...8722452389.jpg

The new MG aganist the old 1/100 side by side.
Let's all be understanding towards Bandai now. Rising oil prices coupled with needing to meet the profit margin forced their hand there.

And anyone still intent on getting the MG D-Hell despite the defect mentioned ?

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/3...8721051744.jpg

LoweGear 2011-02-26 11:06

If it forced their hand to make a better looking Shenlong, then I'm all up for it :D

Though for a proper comparison, you need to compare the old 1/100 with an actual MG Shenlong TV ver., the one thing I'd actually like to see made. :T_T:

kakakka 2011-02-26 12:17

So what's wrong with the MG Shenlong again? The details?

Also about the D-Hell, I'll gladly take it if that's the only problem.

kk2extreme 2011-02-26 13:20

Now all we need is Sandrock, Tallgease and heavy arm MGs

Appel 2011-02-26 14:00

as rrobbert184 pointed out in the deboxing part of his review, the deathscythe hell has a lot of identical parts with the regular deathscythe... so the only problem i see is that like the deathscythe the deathscythe hell will fall apart all the time >_> i REALLY hope they fixed that!

MakubeX2 2011-02-26 17:30

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Originally Posted by kakakka (Post 3506915)
So what's wrong with the MG Shenlong again? The details?

The new MG Shenlong EW is smaller than the old 1/100 Shenlong TV by about 10% there.

Now, let's try putting it aganist something much spirtually closer to it's design :-

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/9404/1298723571836.jpg

It's still shorter and smaller by about a head there. I wager a MG Nataku will be around the size of the MG Shenlong when pitted aganist the old HG 1/100 Nataku if Bandai decide to re-use the MG Shenlong parts.

But people are welcome to proof my theory that Bandai is cutting cost by reducing the size of the kit's part wrong by putting the new MG D-Hell aganist the old HG 1/100 to compare the size.

Rising Dragon 2011-02-26 17:47

I imagine if the Shenlong model's legs weren't spread apart so wide there, and are instead spread as much as the Altron model's, they'd be pretty much even when it comes to height.

MakubeX2 2011-02-26 17:55

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Originally Posted by Rising Dragon (Post 3507341)
I imagine if the Shenlong model's legs weren't spread apart so wide there, and are instead spread as much as the Altron model's, they'd be pretty much even when it comes to height.

There's the smaller shoulder, the shorter and thinner arms and the skirts to take into consideration.

Appel 2011-02-26 18:07

actually i think the proportions seem to be just right!
http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/katoki/xxxg-01s.jpg http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/end.../xxxg-01s2.jpg
the shenlong is not a tall machine :P what im interested in is how tall the finished model is. the shenlong is supposed to be 16.4 meters tall, so that would translate to a 16.4cm model.
the old altron is probably so big because back in the day bandai liked to cheat a little with the hight of the models :P back in the day it was easier to make taller models so that they arent quite in 1/100 scale^^

kakakka 2011-02-26 18:37

I always thought that Wing have small Gundams. So the size was not a surprise nor a bother to me. If they really downsized them, equal or smaller than F91 would be bad.

Appel 2011-02-26 18:42

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Originally Posted by kakakka (Post 3507421)
I always thought that Wing have small Gundams. So the size was not a surprise nor a bother to me. If they really downsized them, equal or smaller than F91 would be bad.

by the looks of it i dont think they downsized them. like i said before, old models were usually not really 1/100 scale but slightly bigger so that its easier to mold the parts.

and i dont think they are smaller than the f91 or the V gundam. they look taller than that


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