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ZeroXSEED 2013-11-30 01:55

Yes, that's good enough. Except for the wash, I'm still not sure...

Also, depends on what plastic. But lacquer primer is not recommended for Gunpla, IIRC.

If you want to be sure, just test them on the runners/sprues.

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Anyway, do anyone here have an idea how Sei scratchbuilt 2 extra head vulcan into his Gunpla? Seems to be a tough job.

StratoSpear 2013-11-30 04:47

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Originally Posted by ZeroXSEED (Post 4926560)

Anyway, do anyone here have an idea how Sei scratchbuilt 2 extra head vulcan into his Gunpla? Seems to be a tough job.

He actually scratchbuilt all four head vulcans... Hell, the even cheek vents are completely different from the Strike and Strike E's. It's like he remade the entire head part.

suiton629 2013-11-30 06:22

Just get Tamiya acrylics. Stick with 1 brand and 1 type of paint.

Shinobi2013 2013-11-30 07:26

Panel line wash shouldn't be the same type of paint you used on the kit, for example painted the kit with acrylic then enamel on the panel line wash. If you used one and the same type of paint both in painting and panel line wash, both of them will stick together or worse mixed up so if you tried to remove the excess panel lines then so does the paint. It's a simple logic like the oil and water won't be mixed together.

suiton629 2013-11-30 07:58

Paint with Tamiya acrylics.

Or what you can do is 'milk' Gundam Markers onto a paint tray, and then use it to hand brush gate marks. Then panel line with the panel lining Gundam Marker, and then spray a flat top coat over it. It'll give it the painted look with the details you want.

duotiga 2013-11-30 08:03

finally is here!!!

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o...CFDF8B4D6C.jpg

now i shall wait for the RG Destiny Heine ver....

suiton629 2013-11-30 08:29

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Originally Posted by duotiga (Post 4926761)
finally is here!!!

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o...CFDF8B4D6C.jpg

now i shall wait for the RG Destiny Heine ver....

Lucky.
I was considering the RG Destiny Heine but I declined. =D

I'm waiting for these right now:

SD God
SD Devil
SD Shining
MG Exia Repair 2
MG X
RG Strike Freedom + Wings
RG Destiny + Wings
...and some Action Base 1s and LED sets

=D Lots of GunPla paid for. Now just a matter of time.

Shinobi2013 2013-11-30 08:39

Problem with the Gundam markers for panel lining is still a bit thick, more especially if you want to apply it on a very thin or very deep details which even the Gundam Markers can't even reach. So instead I use Copic Marker 0.03 on very thin panel lines which is even more thinner than Gundam Markers and on very deep details which is even the copic markers can even reach, I'll just use enamel wash instead.

suiton629 2013-11-30 08:40

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Originally Posted by Shinobi2013 (Post 4926797)
Problem with the Gundam markers for panel lining is still a bit thick, more especially if you want to apply it on a very thin or very deep details which even the Gundam Markers can't even reach. So instead I use Copic Marker 0.03 on very thin panel lines which is even more thinner than Gundam Markers and on very deep details which is even the copic markers can even reach, I'll just use enamel wash instead.

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It's still pretty thin and you can do what I and others do. Use it, and then wipe off excess with a q-tip/cotton swab.

Shinobi2013 2013-11-30 08:46

I already used Gundam marker before and it's still a bit thick compare to copic marker 0.03 as seen on the picture you've posted, never ever used Gundam markers since ages.

Appel 2013-11-30 09:08

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Originally Posted by suiton629 (Post 4926694)
Just get Tamiya acrylics. Stick with 1 brand and 1 type of paint.

That would only work well if you just want to paint each piece in one color. If you want to do a panel line wash or a reverse wash you absolutely have to use different kinds of paint.

suiton629 2013-11-30 12:15

Call me lazy, but that's all I do.

Providenceangle 2013-11-30 12:59

Don't panel wash with enamel over acrylic. The lighter fluid will eat the paint! You can do panel washes with water and acrylic. It works the same as the enamel washes, just wait 3-5 days for the base paint to dry. You know already about clear coating before doing the wash, this step is the same, but when using acrylic it's critical that you leave the base coats dry, so they don't lift with the watered down acrylic wash. Use the same cotton swab/qtip method. You can get the same results.

Enamel panel washing is used for people who use lacquer paints as a base. Lacquer paints are the best but, they can eat plastics(best to use airbrush in thin coats, until you have a thin dry base you can paint over, so they don't eat the plastic). They are very toxic as well. A respirator is a must.(should use a mask for any painting)

suiton629 2013-11-30 13:28

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Originally Posted by Providenceangle (Post 4927023)
Don't panel wash with enamel over acrylic. The lighter fluid will eat the paint! You can do panel washes with water and acrylic. It works the same as the enamel washes, just wait 3-5 days for the base paint to dry. You know already about clear coating before doing the wash, this step is the same, but when using acrylic it's critical that you leave the base coats dry, so they don't lift with the watered down acrylic wash. Use the same cotton swab/qtip method. You can get the same results.

Enamel panel washing is used for people who use lacquer paints as a base. Lacquer paints are the best but, they can eat plastics(best to use airbrush in thin coats, until you have a thin dry base you can paint over, so they don't eat the plastic). They are very toxic as well. A respirator is a must.(should use a mask for any painting)

I think acrylics or just Gundam Markers (real touch, regular, metallics, panel lining) is a the safest route. =) That's why I go with them and always have a stockpile of them as well as the Mr. Hobby flat top coat.. few cans each time.

Bonta Kun 2013-11-30 13:56

BOOM headshot....my wallet took a hit....

Ordered a HG Age-1 with razor parts and pre-ordered the MG X.....

I can honestly say I actually hate deals, they always make me part with my hard earned cash when I'm not supposed too!!!:frustrated::upset:

suiton629 2013-11-30 14:01

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Originally Posted by Bonta Kun (Post 4927090)
BOOM headshot....my wallet took a hit....

Ordered a HG Age-1 with razor parts and pre-ordered the MG X.....

I can honestly say I actually hate deals, they always make me part with my hard earned cash when I'm not supposed too!!!:frustrated::upset:

How is that boom head shot?

Here's what I have on queue and recently received..

Recent received...
SD Exia
SD 00 Raiser (x2) --> to make one condenser type
SD 00 Qan[t]
SD 00 7 Sword G
Action Base 2 Sparkling Green (x7)

Waiting for...
SD God
SD Shining
SD Devil
SD Wing Zero Custom
SD Wing EW
RG Strike Freedom + Wings
RG Destiny + Wings
MG Exia R2
MG X
MG Wing Gundam EW
MG Wing Zero Custom
green LED set
Action Base 1 Celestial Being version (white)

If your think that's a "BOOM headshot", then mine must be a BOOM NUCLEAR GIGATON EXPOSSIONNNZZ TIMEZZZZZZZZ right?

:eyespin: :)

EDIT

Can you take the SD Wing EW and SD Wing Zero Custom and kit bash easily to give it a SD Wing Zero Custom with more modern, proportioned SD scale?

Skye629 2013-11-30 16:39

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Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor (Post 4925692)
Regarding old exclusives/limited items, don't worry. They sound like endangered species but Bandai actually still reprint them. For example, recently my local seller got a restock of the old MG GP01, GP02, & GP03 metallic coating ver. coz Bandai just reprinted & re-released them. So, don't worry, MG Destiny Heine will get made again. You just have to wait, and don't bite the bait of those who offer it with unreasonable price. "Twice the price of the normal ones (exclude shipping & delivery fee)" is the highest you can charge for exclusive/limited items which aren't metallic coating, titanium finish, clear/sparkly parts or those with additional content (like Linkin Park's HG GP01 or TM Revolutions' HG Destiny Heine complete with CDs and whatnot).

Now, if you can properly communicate with Gentei (as in by phones, emails, etc), you can tell them that you really want MG Destiny Heine thus asking them to put your name (and contact numbers) on their list of customers who will receive the kit once it got restocked. A good hobby store usually willing to accept that kind of request as it will only bring them more profit & loyal buyers.

Btw, since you live in the US, are stores like GG Infinite and the likes never had any restock of old Limited kit (for example, MG Zeta Karaba)?

Hmmm good advice, I'll just wait and hope for a lucky break or rerelease then

Even though Im in the US I have not checked GGInfinite much, so Im not too sure whether or not they periodically restock the exclusive kits when Bandai rereleases them or when they reprint/do another run of them



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Originally Posted by suiton629 (Post 4927095)
How is that boom head shot?

If your think that's a "BOOM headshot", then mine must be a BOOM NUCLEAR GIGATON EXPOSSIONNNZZ TIMEZZZZZZZZ right?

You do realize that these comments are made in regards to the user's funds/what they consider alot right? Even $20 is a BOOM HEADSHOT for me as thats a good fraction of my monthly allowance

Providenceangle 2013-11-30 16:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by suiton629 (Post 4927060)
I think acrylics or just Gundam Markers (real touch, regular, metallics, panel lining) is a the safest route. =) That's why I go with them and always have a stockpile of them as well as the Mr. Hobby flat top coat.. few cans each time.

The comment was aimed at Double_Edge. As he's asking advice on it. You can do whatever you wanna do all day long.

Shinobi2013 2013-11-30 16:49

My "BOOM headshot" for me so far is the whole set of Gundam Wing G-Unit series:
Gundam Geminass 2x(display both as normal and space type Unit), Gundam Hydra, Gundam L.O. Booster, Gundam Aesculapius and Gundam Griepe.

suiton629 2013-11-30 16:53

Can you take the SD Wing EW and SD Wing Zero Custom and kit bash easily to give it a SD Wing Zero Custom with more modern, proportioned SD scale?

StrikeFreedomV2 2013-11-30 17:24

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Originally Posted by suiton629 (Post 4927267)
Can you take the SD Wing EW and SD Wing Zero Custom and kit bash easily to give it a SD Wing Zero Custom with more modern, proportioned SD scale?

Google it! Or look at the instructions online

Obelisk ze Tormentor 2013-12-01 09:07

Beargguy III is here! :D

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StrikeFreedomV2 2013-12-01 09:16

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Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor (Post 4927962)
Beargguy III is here! :D

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Made my day xD

Obelisk ze Tormentor 2013-12-01 09:30

^ I know, right? :D

As for the gold-coated HG Phenex, I think it looks better than the MG:

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I always prefer the HG's proportion, practicality and articulation than the MG's when it comes to Unicorn. I think I'll get that gold-coated HG Phenex coz I don't think there will be any gold coated RD Phenex in the future.

StrikeFreedomV2 2013-12-01 09:54

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Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor (Post 4927983)
^ I know, right? :D

As for the gold-coated HG Phenex, I think it looks better than the MG:

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I always prefer the HG's proportion, practicality and articulation than the MG's when it comes to Unicorn. I think I'll get that gold-coated HG Phenex coz I don't think there will be any gold coated RD Phenex in the future.

RD or HGUC are the way to go with the Unicorn Gundams. The MGs are bricks, and the shields of the Phenex will definitely hinder the arms and will cause weight issues. As I said a time ago, my MG Unicorn can't hold its Beam Magnum or its shield.

Appel 2013-12-01 10:20

Alright, I just finished the main body of the Strike Freedom... Now comes the "best" part, building the dragoons and wings >__>
I hate it when the manual just says "8x" for one section XD this is not gonna be fun at all...

Obelisk ze Tormentor 2013-12-01 10:33

^ I don't know about you, but I think building SF's 8 Dragoons is not as boring as building Nu's Funnels. Then again, you're building PG, so I really can't say :p.

@SFV2:
I know. I have MG Banshee & MG Titanium Unicorn. The Banshee is pretty okay-ish. No dynamic poses, very limited articulation of the limbs, the arms look too thin, and worse, it cannot stand at all when it's in Unicorn mode >_< (Curse you, NT-D transformation!!!). I'm still not done assembling my Titanium Unicorn yet. I hope it doesn't turn out (too) bad .

StrikeFreedomV2 2013-12-01 11:05

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Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor (Post 4928027)
^ I don't know about you, but I think building SF's 8 Dragoons is not as boring as building Nu's Funnels. Then again, you're building PG, so I really can't say :p.

@SFV2:
I know. I have MG Banshee & MG Titanium Unicorn. The Banshee is pretty okay-ish. No dynamic poses, very limited articulation of the limbs, the arms look too thin, and worse, it cannot stand at all when it's in Unicorn mode >_< (Curse you, NT-D transformation!!!). I'm still not done assembling my Titanium Unicorn yet. I hope it doesn't turn out (too) bad .

I also think that the legs are way to long. Also, mine can't stand in either mode -.-

Bonta Kun 2013-12-01 11:06

MEDIC! WALLET DOWN!

And so the christmas hell begins.

I went and ordered the HG F91 and a systems base as well....

This time of year is really a love and hate thing for me:heh:

I'm really supposed to be saving for a tv but damn can't help it when it comes to this stuff.

Hell if I crumble and take a jolly jaunt into the ship model section of HLJ I know I'll end buying something and there goes my budget for a new tv:uhoh:

suiton629 2013-12-01 15:23

HG 00 vs. HG G vs. G X

Go!

Skye629 2013-12-01 17:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Appel (Post 4928020)
Alright, I just finished the main body of the Strike Freedom... Now comes the "best" part, building the dragoons and wings >__>
I hate it when the manual just says "8x" for one section XD this is not gonna be fun at all...

Cant be as bad as having to clean 24 small funnels of the HGUC Kshatriya :P

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Originally Posted by suiton629 (Post 4928286)
HG 00 vs. HG G vs. G X

Go!

None! Cuz we all know you dont buy HG's

And any Gunpla builder worth his salt knows which one has the best articulation of the 3

Appel 2013-12-01 17:54

Welp.
http://abload.de/img/dsc_4463zhc0q.jpg

Now comes the 1 million dollar question that I always forget about before buying a new kit: Where do I put that monster...?

StratoSpear 2013-12-01 17:54

I'm wholeheartedly pleased by the 3.0's hands. It intrigues me so much when I realise that the fingers can be posed individually.

At first glance, it looked like it was molded as a single piece on the MP runner but once I got it out... 0.0

@ Appel
Holy shit! Not bad at all! Maybe you could leave standing atop your dining table.

ZeroXSEED 2013-12-01 18:18

@ Appel
Request of size comparison to any HG kit you have plz? :naughty:

Also, store it near easily seen places, workdesk for example.

Appel 2013-12-01 18:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeroXSEED (Post 4928469)
@ Appel
Request of size comparison to any HG kit you have plz? :naughty:

Also, store it near easily seen places, workdesk for example.

http://abload.de/img/dsc_4465wkdtc.jpg
Here ya go.

ZeroXSEED 2013-12-01 18:28

I see-HOLYSHIEEEETTTT :eek:

(Just realize that it's MG Strike Freedom on the right :uhoh:)

Meanwhile, in Japan
http://s12.postimg.org/xv1adtyp9/1385908725917.jpg
Either Bearguy is understocked and Build Strike is overstocked, or Bandai is pessimistic and made too few.

Alternatively, Bearguy sold like hotcakes.

Sworra 2013-12-01 20:37

@ Appel
Great Job on your Strike Freedom, looks pretty amazing. Didn't take you that long to put it together, if I did a PG it would of taken me a year at least. lol Anyways good spot to place something that eye catching is somewhere around a tv, a bookself or a wall unit.. Just so that when you do watch tv you would be reminded of what a good job you did. Cheers! :)

Knight_SV 2013-12-02 01:27

I finally finished build strike rm and proto zero. Both are very solid and now i will build hguc zz, gp02 and double x

Skye629 2013-12-02 01:37

Dem F91's, definitely getting me a HGUC since its so cheap (or perhaps I'll save for the MG,we'll see)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-lVCgYgE0UC...BANM131236.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-wS-RlBhKW4...BANM131239.jpg

And please announce dat HGUC Crossbone lol, we all know its gonna get the treatment sooner or later for the All Gundam Project

ZeroXSEED 2013-12-02 01:39

Guys, what do you think about 1/550 Dendrobium Orchis?

Do they require extensive paint or just a few itty bits?

Because I read the reviews and each one are different...


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