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uranium235 2011-04-29 03:31

^_^
as for as I know. I think this is official one.
next year is 30 years Anniversary. there must be a movie or sth come up. hope new MF coming.

I love A&S love story.

dreamhunter707 2011-04-29 04:20

Do you know anything about what is written on this page: http://www.ftama.com/plusfrontier/illust.html ???
Those illustrations will be only for people who are in fun club or sth like that?

Anyway I'm really curious about Alto as king and Sheryl as Queen... now it looks terrible for me XDDD... but let's wait for bigger size :P

edit: ok, I found what's that: http://www.ftama.com/shop/limited/04.html

uranium235 2011-04-29 06:03

poker card。!!!!

who want to use that!!!! I will put it on my bookshelf ^_^

KaoruLia 2011-04-29 06:09

Happy birthday Ranka!! (I just realized I share the same birthday as her XD)

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i2...18457336_m.jpg

uranium235 2011-04-29 06:10

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Originally Posted by KaoruLia (Post 3592176)
Happy birthday Ranka!! (I just realized I share the same birthday as her XD)

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i2...18457336_m.jpg

happy birthday to you !!!!!!

Yot-chan 2011-04-29 07:46

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Originally Posted by uranium235 (Post 3592068)
^_^
as for as I know. I think this is official one.

Not really...

http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...postcount=1213

Sorry.

uranium235 2011-04-29 08:50

*_* Now I'm lost.....

Yot-chan 2011-04-29 09:07

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Originally Posted by uranium235 (Post 3592344)
*_* Now I'm lost.....

Believe me, you're not the only one. As I said before, I find those little "disclaimers" to be absolutely infuriating...not least because all the technical data was written by Masahiro Chiba, and since he did the background mechanical theorizing for the original series, his word really SHOULD be law here...

uranium235 2011-04-29 09:35

what a sad news for me.. : (

Yot-chan 2011-04-29 09:47

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Originally Posted by uranium235 (Post 3592386)
what a sad news for me.. : (

Me, I just marvel at the way they seem to continually give AruSheri fans almost exactly what they want to hear, but never quite manage to push it all the way.

There's a certain artfulness to it, I suppose.

uranium235 2011-04-29 09:49

I just feel like eat a cheese cake with a fly in it................
suck

BetoJR 2011-04-29 09:51

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Originally Posted by Yot-chan (Post 3592394)
There's a certain artfulness to it, I suppose.

If by "artfulness" you mean that "they are good at trolling", I just might agree with you.

Yot-chan 2011-04-29 09:57

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Originally Posted by uranium235 (Post 3592396)
I just feel like eat a cheese cake with a fly in it................
suck

Hmmm...that's going a little far, isn't it? After all, yesterday, you didn't even know this story existed, right?

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Originally Posted by BetoJR (Post 3592400)
If by "artfulness" you mean that "they are good at trolling", I just might agree with you.

From knowyourmeme.com:

A troll is someone who will state something only with the intention of stirring up controversy. Typically the statement is so absurd that only the most noobish of noobs will get offended and respond.
For example, one might purposefuly spel things wrong or use poor grammar, knowing that this will drive some people crazy, eliciting a response.
A more advanced troll might even spell things wrong in a post criticizing the spelling in someone else’s post, hoping to elicit an angry counter-reaction. Numerous forums and Usenet boards are dedicated to the fine art of what the NYTimes called “manipulating other people’s emotional equilibrium” [trying to remember for sure if they should get the credit]
Trolling can be considered a form of cyberbullying and in video game circles the practice is often called “griefing”.


I still fail to see how ANYTHING in Frontier is "trolling." But we've had this discussion before.

uranium235 2011-04-29 10:06

OK.... I'm too emotional...

but still feel bad. what a nice story... but but. : (

karice67 2011-04-29 10:08

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Originally Posted by Yot-chan (Post 3592394)
Me, I just marvel at the way they seem to continually give AruSheri fans almost exactly what they want to hear, but never quite manage to push it all the way.

There's a certain artfulness to it, I suppose.

I suppose it also depends on what kind of fandom they might want to foster...? Given the extremely creative doujinshi tradition in Japan, perhaps they're just leaving it as open as possible for that...

I know that some fans of a certain British phenomenon would prefer that creator to have said LESS about what happened to her characters after the end of the series...

Personally though, at the very least, I'd like to have a certain character's return confirmed for good (or otherwise...)...

BetoJR 2011-04-29 10:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yot-chan (Post 3592416)
From knowyourmeme.com:

A troll is someone who will state something only with the intention of stirring up controversy. Typically the statement is so absurd that only the most noobish of noobs will get offended and respond.
For example, one might purposefuly spel things wrong or use poor grammar, knowing that this will drive some people crazy, eliciting a response.
A more advanced troll might even spell things wrong in a post criticizing the spelling in someone else’s post, hoping to elicit an angry counter-reaction. Numerous forums and Usenet boards are dedicated to the fine art of what the NYTimes called “manipulating other people’s emotional equilibrium” [trying to remember for sure if they should get the credit]
Trolling can be considered a form of cyberbullying and in video game circles the practice is often called “griefing”.


I still fail to see how ANYTHING in Frontier is "trolling." But we've had this discussion before.

I tend to go, generally, for the "fine art of what the NYTimes called 'manipulating other people’s emotional equilibrium'” vibe, when I refer to trolling, myself. Your mileage may vary, tho.

Thank you for shooting your own foot, Gubaba. :heh:

karice67 2011-04-29 10:15

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Originally Posted by BetoJR (Post 3592426)
I tend to go, generally, for the "fine art of what the NYTimes called 'manipulating other people’s emotional equilibrium'” vibe, when I refer to trolling, myself.

Hm...I dunno. After the rewatch and movies, I feel like I understand a lot more about what they did...and I'd say that they weren't doing that.

They just want fans to be a bit more observant, reading between the lines and all that. :)

Yot-chan 2011-04-29 10:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by BetoJR (Post 3592426)
I tend to go, generally, for the "fine art of what the NYTimes called 'manipulating other people’s emotional equilibrium'” vibe, when I refer to trolling, myself. Your mileage may vary, tho.

Thank you for shooting your own foot, Gubaba. :heh:

Would you agree that ALL good storytelling "manipulates people's emotional equilibrium"?

uranium235 2011-04-29 10:22

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Originally Posted by Yot-chan (Post 3592439)
Would you agree that ALL good storytelling "manipulates people's emotional equilibrium"?

I agree with you!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BetoJR 2011-04-29 10:22

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Originally Posted by karice67 (Post 3592432)
Hm...I dunno. After the rewatch and movies, I feel like I understand a lot more about what they did...and I'd say that they weren't doing that.

They just want fans to be a bit more observant, reading between the lines and all that. :)

Hey, I'm only half-joking, here. :heh:
I absolutely love the ending of the second movie, by what you guys have shared with us poor japanese-challenged people. And I didn't really mind the end of the TV series all that much, either. Not really one of the "DIE YOU FILTHY HIPPIE" crowd, myself.

However, I can appreciate a good misdirection and (why not?) some artful trolling. Sometimes, I think that's exactly the kind of thing that keeps a product (be it a TV series, a movie, a book, a comic, whatever) fresh in the collective memory of the consuming public.

Nevertheless, Gubaba seems to be indirectly implying that the producers are sort-of-lightly-indirectly trolling a certain percentage of fandom. I find it funny, myself. :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yot-chan (Post 3592439)
Would you agree that ALL good storytelling "manipulates people's emotional equilibrium"?

I would, yes. But you're the one who supplied the quote, as regards a definition of what a troll does, not me. :p
And being manipulative is only so good if it's subtle. Heavy pandering detracts from a product, most of the time.


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