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As for RGs I don't expect them to replace MGs either. I think they'll just remain as the PGs for 1/144 scale with limited releases of only the main mobile suits. I have a feeling that the quality of MGs will reduce in the future, with it being more of a better alternative to the NG 1/100 especially for the newer series. As for UC MGs I expect them to be of comparable quality to previous MGs. :) Can't say much about PGs. lol, maybe just the main mobile suit of each series will be made into one... and only if it was super popular. |
People here had surely noticed the extinction of the 1/100 NGs line. Theories are abound that Bandai retire it because they are stuck between a rock and a hard place for the 1/100 line. Make it too good and it'sll threaten the MG line. Cease improvements and consumers will be offended.
The 1/100 Overflag and 1/100 Tieren was borderline MG as you can see. Bandai tried to cut slack with the 1/100 OO Second Season Gundams with no waist articulation and pissed their customers off, enough for them to retire the 1/100 line and jumped straight to MGs. But what about the rest of the model kit lines lines ? Thw way I see it :- 1) HGs will always be around. Bandai needs something in the 1000-2000 yen range for those teenagers who had no financial means to get the top of the line MGs. 2) MGs will go on for those who need to see their kit in the bigger scale of 1/100 3) RGs will train on for years to come due to the appeal for great details in a small package. 4) PGs are experimental pieces for Bandai to cheat their hard core consumer base for extra fundings. So they will be there, just on a very limited basis. The only line that are endangered are the Mega Size kits which are blown up HG kits that are too big, too expensive and lack details. |
I'd argue that MG is the new NG 1/100. Looking at the MG Age-1 Normal, I can see stuff you'd normally expect in NG 1/100 kits (like sliding the arms and legs into place). And given that Bandai has confirmed 9(!) MGs so far this year when it's still only January, this seems to indicate they're going for quantity over quality. Not that I'm complaining though.
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I think Bandai is just trying to keep costs low w/ the AGE series kits without compromising too much. So with the AGE Master Grade kits, we should just expect something in between usual Master Grade quality and No Grade 1/100 quality. Not that bad, but whatever. =P It'd be easier for kids I guess, and I think that's what Bandai is trying to market these kits from the AGE series at.. |
the last NGs that came out were sometimes even better than the old MGs.
and when you look at the prices, the NG OO raiser is only a bit less expensive than the MG version. from a strategic standpoint it simply makes no sense for bandai anymore to keep that line alive. and i think they took the right way by simply giving us really awesome 1/144 scale kits in the form of the RG line. they are just as expensive as the NGs and offer three times as many features :P or just look at the 1/144 NG line! that one died as well because the HG line picked up so much. this is simply part of the evolution of bandais toy line. the models get better, new lines get made and old ones die. its that simple^^ |
I'd rather them not even bother with NG either and just release MG kits. =)
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Another thing; the HG line would never stop. It's Bandai mass production line. |
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But I'm just a bit annoyed that these RG kits take up the MG kits' release slots. However still, I've noticed Bandai and Sunrise designing GunPla and Gundam anime series to make it so that a lot of rehash type of kits are possible.. Example? Gundam AGE AGE-1 Normal --> AGE-1 Titus --> AGE-1 Sparrow Very limited changes, yet they're all "new" MG releases. Speaking of the AGE series, I hope that we get the MG G-Exes (spelling?)...the suit that Woolf pilots. =) ... and if we get that, we might even get the MG Genoace guys. . . . And by "rehash" I mean "cost cutting measures". I think we're going to see similar things for a while, and Bandai cutting corners with the MG kits. And the PG kits... I think they're just a waste totally. - high cost to make - high cost to buy - ridiculously large amount of parts - ridiculously large kit Yea they're nice, but I'd rather get like 4 MG kits than 1 PG kits (give or take). |
New model pics from Hobby Japan:
MG Duel Gundam Assault Shroud Spoiler for size:
RG Skygrasper + Sword and Launcher Strikers Spoiler for Size:
RG Gundam Mk.II Spoiler for Size:
HGAG Gundam AGE-2 Double Bullet Spoiler for Size:
HGAG G-Bouncer Spoiler for Size:
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I wish they'd give G-Exes in MG form. Does anyone think it's gonna be done?
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I feel like they're gonna go back to Unicorn, 00, Seed Destiny, Seed, Wing, G, X, etc... and do ver 2.0's, MG's, HG's, RG's, etc from those and skimp out on the Age. I ws going to get the AGE Master Grade kits, but lookin at the AGE-1 Normal, I keep getting the vibe of slightly improved & larger scale HG kits or 1/100 No Grade. Am I being crazy or has anyone else gotten that feeling? I mean it doesn't feel like a full MG kit. I was expecting like a full inner frame and at least LED's to light up the A in the chest. |
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also, if they would regret it then they wouldnt have announced so many HGs for the second generation already! AGE wont bomb and they dont regret anything. |
Does anyone know yet what that gimmick on Double Bullet's back legs is? Can't say I really like the design, but it does have some potential, since you can pose it with four beamsabers simultaneously which is always awesome *cough*like bandai is giving us four effect parts, cheap bastards *cough*
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The HG kits are pretty good, but the MG kits...wow...just wow... |
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b) Nope, HGUC will never become extinct. Among all the lines, it's Bandai's biggest with having the most choices and the cheapest (except for cheap AG, EG, FG and NGs) c)I don't think RGs will stop. Though it's slowly produced, I think it's due to the fact that it's more pricey and it's not an ideal buy because of its price. Of course, it's a space saver, in 1/144 scale, but there are people like me who prefer 1/100 than 1/144s. Besides, they are not supposed to be "anime accurate" with having many extra lines and looks pla-plated versions. |
I think that's more than enough examples. =P But what he's more referring to is the actual kits themselves. They're losing complexity and quality.
Evidence. MG Age 1 Normal Looks more like an HG kit. Anyway, they're definitely scaling back and cost cutting left & right. |
well....thats the Duel OP pose which i posted way back before also....
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__...lgundam5vz.jpg 1) HG will not extinct. in fact it will be more 2) 1/100 scale wld be focus on MG 3) new grade wld be Mega Size & RG |
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I think the reason RG releases are so slow right now is because Bandai is still testing the waters. IIRC, the Master Grade line started slow with only a few releases a year before it really started to pick up.
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From a more technical view point it can be considered more HG-esque with how it's put together but like MakubeX2 said if it looks good enough then that should fine cause I don't see models losing any articulation. I think some slight degrading from build complexity but not actual quality(as the molds and plastic used for MGs has been pretty damn good now, hard to lose quality of the molds and plastic, unless they really do want to skim there but I don't see that being the case) for what still very much look like MGs and are cheaper on the whole, I'm perfectly fine with it. Quality of plastic has improved greatly over the years, you don't go back to old ways in this case, not even if it means saving money cause then no one would buy em. |
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http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-FviWTF9Kfl...Q1E/s640/1.jpg http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-eB067NRLr8...lC4/s640/2.jpg http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-RTZOQz_dem...IZw/s640/3.jpg The build complexity seems to be simplified, but given we don't yet have the manuals and parts breakdown to judge that I'll withhold from further assessing that point until the kit's release. My impression however is that the MG AGE-1 looks to be about similar overall to many of the simpler MG kits like the MG GM or any other grunt MG's. Afterall, in terms of actual mechanical gimmicks the AGE-1 is quite bare bones - hell, even the RX-78-2 is a bit more complex due only to the Core Fighter. However, it definitely isn't to the same level as an HG kit, nor does it even look like one. |
looks like the Farsia will be getting a HG release! :)
http://gundamguy.blogspot.com/2012/0...al-images.html |
I already decided to buy Zeidora and contemplating whether I'll buy Genoace II, because I don't have Genoace custom, or Age-2 DB. But I guess I'll be buying Zeidora and Farsia now :))))))))
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EDIT: Speaking of RG kits - how are RG kits in general? Thinking of picking up the Freedom. Given their small size, is loose parts a problem for RG models? |
So the G-Bouncer has a...[GN Wolf-Blade]? :heh:
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main issue wld be the hand manipulator but latest 1 wld have the fixed manipulator to resolve the issue. but overall quite a stable kit |
Well after months of lurking I finally registered to comment on something. (though by the time I did somebody beat me to it. :) )
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Even though that can be see as "cheap" It will not affect the model itself that much, outer detail on pieces is what matters. How many parts it is made out of is less relevant for a MS as vanilla as the AGE1; the frame itself is a full frame from what we know so far. And honestly if this measure keeps the level of detail, keeps costs in check and improves profit margins for Bandai everybody wins. General inflation combined with the global recession and Eurocrisis have put Gunpla prices under strain for importers; but we aren't the major target for Bandai at all; That will always be Asia. Oil prices also matter a lot. |
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@bio9205 To add, only the Zaku Mass Production and the Freedom have the dedicated rifle hand, although Bandai will be including extra ones for the Sword and Launcher packs in the RG Skygrasper. |
Lineart for MG Aegis, MG Buster and MG Blitz:
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My observations regarding the lineart for MG Aegis: - Small thrusters for the humungous side skirts. - It will have the circular type of joints for the hips, just like 00 family. It can split <3 - A somewhat circular whatsoever found in the torso. Maybe that will be used as a joint for the transformation. Maybe they also did that to match-up the joints for the hips. Remember that Aegis' legs and arms must look the same as possible when it's in MA armor mode. - Looks like it will have knee armors (i'm sorry for being mr.obvious here). - I think the shoulders were bigger this time. Maybe to match the size of the legs? I'm not sure though. I'm not disappointed or whatsoever with the changes for as long as it will look better and will make the kit MGish. |
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Nevertheless, still excited for the release of these kits! |
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Wow, the Aegis got a lot of attention here ^_^. As for me, I’m more into Blitz. I really like the design of its head now since the 1/100’s head is pretty much heavy on its bumpy forehead-camera. The MG’s head looks sleeker now. I can’t really tell the difference between the bodies though, but I’m sure the limbs action will be much-much better than 1/100.
After done with with GAT-X series, I hope next year or two they'll do MG Blu Duel & Verde Buster. Strike Noir is very lonely right now. |
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@Obelisk ze Tormentor I want an MG Nebular Blitz actually. |
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