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secretzfan 2010-11-01 15:58

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Originally Posted by Koguma za (Post 3326680)
some ranting about this chpt (not me btw)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGYQ3bzLJHM

I don't get the rants then again I never do the chapter seemed really good and some just go wild when the see a time skip. everybody should be happy after all this means that Tite can start over.

Cub-Sama 2010-11-01 18:11

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Originally Posted by secretzfan (Post 3325332)
Now you've lost your head Kubo isn't a short term memory lost (He is a long term as he can't rember things from the beginning of the plot) although we haven't seen Orihime in a while it is very unlikely he forgot about her.

Unless somebody new really is writing Bleach

He doesn't have short term memory loss huh?

Kensei?
Nell?
Grimmjow?
Unohana?
Ishida, chad, orihime etc...
Ulquiorra's omnious message of "If you don't strike me down now this will never end"
Bodies in hueco mundo?

XT3 2010-11-01 18:32

I don't post alot (Or hardly for that matter). Butt what if he meets anther on the( 3rd dimendion if i recall correctly ><

secretzfan 2010-11-01 18:50

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Originally Posted by Cub-Sama (Post 3326980)
He doesn't have short term memory loss huh?

Kensei?
Nell?
Grimmjow?
Unohana?
Ishida, chad, orihime etc...
Ulquiorra's omnious message of "If you don't strike me down now this will never end"
Bodies in hueco mundo?

That is long term not short and Orihime and Ishida were who I was talking about he doesn't forget those characters in fact Ishida was already brought up so you know Orihime is coming

Cub-Sama 2010-11-01 19:07

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Originally Posted by secretzfan (Post 3327050)
That is long term not short and Orihime and Ishida were who I was talking about he doesn't forget those characters in fact Ishida was already brought up so you know Orihime is coming

It is not long term because I am talking about he forgot all of them during the previous arc and now starts a completely new arc without explaining what happened to Grimmjow or Kensei or Nell, where Unohana was during the entire mess, that Unohana was supposed to be one of the oldest and one of the more powerful captains, Aizen had a bankai as did Urahara, Yoruichi and all of the Vaizard etc...

He has memory problems lets just leave it at that.

secretzfan 2010-11-01 19:34

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Originally Posted by Cub-Sama (Post 3327085)
It is not long term because I am talking about he forgot all of them during the previous arc and now starts a completely new arc without explaining what happened to Grimmjow or Kensei or Nell, where Unohana was during the entire mess, that Unohana was supposed to be one of the oldest and one of the more powerful captains, Aizen had a bankai as did Urahara, Yoruichi and all of the Vaizard etc...

He has memory problems lets just leave it at that.

You acn't really say that because all those questions besides Grimmjow (Definite) or Kensei or Nell will probably be explained the rest where super old and are long term becasue we haven't seem them in like 140 chapters

CMSensei 2010-11-01 20:22

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Originally Posted by Cub-Sama (Post 3327085)
It is not long term because I am talking about he forgot all of them during the previous arc and now starts a completely new arc without explaining what happened to Grimmjow or Kensei or Nell, where Unohana was during the entire mess, that Unohana was supposed to be one of the oldest and one of the more powerful captains, Aizen had a bankai as did Urahara, Yoruichi and all of the Vaizard etc...

He has memory problems lets just leave it at that.


Some people like Grimmjow he's gonna pop him up out of no where when no ones is even thinking of it, so he probably didn't forget it, he just left them to the side to make you wonder like you are doing now. ;)



LadyKikyo91 2010-11-01 20:36

This chap is a bit of relief. I wish Orihime Rukia had been in it though. Yep looks like we are heading into the chapter black saga (YYH). Sensui is coming. Seriously though YYH is my fav anime. I liked seeing Karin and Yuzu in their new uniforms. Oh yea and I wanted to see chad.

secretzfan 2010-11-01 20:40

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Originally Posted by LadyKikyo91 (Post 3327204)
This chap is a bit of relief. I wish Orihime Rukia had been in it though. Yep looks like we are heading into the chapter black saga (YYH). Sensui is coming. Seriously though YYH is my fav anime. I liked seeing Karin and Yuzu in their new uniforms. Oh yea and I wanted to see chad.

That some more reason why I liked the chapter and double the fact for how awesome posters looked

Cub-Sama 2010-11-01 20:52

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Originally Posted by secretzfan (Post 3327134)
You acn't really say that because all those questions besides Grimmjow (Definite) or Kensei or Nell will probably be explained the rest where super old and are long term becasue we haven't seem them in like 140 chapters

Super old? Kisuke, Vaizards, Yoruichi, Aizen etc... weren't all that long ago, in manga terms, it was just last arc, Grimmjow is old I'll give you that as is Nell and Orihime situation but Unohana isn't all that old either.

@CM-chan What is it like to have faith in someone who disappoints over and over again? :p

CMSensei 2010-11-01 20:59

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Originally Posted by Cub-Sama (Post 3327231)
@CM-chan What is it like to have faith in someone who disappoints over and over again? :p

Don't know why you read it if it disappoints you.

The story line never really bothered me much, or how hes going with it.

secretzfan 2010-11-01 21:29

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Originally Posted by Cub-Sama (Post 3327231)
Super old? Kisuke, Vaizards, Yoruichi, Aizen etc... weren't all that long ago, in manga terms, it was just last arc, Grimmjow is old I'll give you that as is Nell and Orihime situation but Unohana isn't all that old either.

@CM-chan What is it like to have faith in someone who disappoints over and over again? :p

Unohana we just 2 chapters ago she finished healing Hiyori obviously. I will admit he forgot Nel and Grimmjow, and Orihime is the talk

By the way when it comes to beginning arcs Tite never fails in my book

Thewanderer 2010-11-02 05:16

I'll admit, genre-savvy fans are ruining the new arc for me. Chapter Black this and Sensui that.

If this new guy does turn out to have such a role, we may never hear the end of it.

Arjayes 2010-11-02 06:16

Am I the only one that didn't expect all the questions to be answered in the first chapter?

Haak 2010-11-02 06:17

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Originally Posted by Arjayes (Post 3327748)
Am I the only one that didn't expect all the questions to be answered in the first chapter?

What questions? You mean the ones we've already lost hope of having answers to? That's quite an extensive list so I don't think anybody expects them all to be answered within a chapter, if at all.

Ideally, unless these questions become a crucial plot point later on, they should be answered the moment they're raised and properly so there's no confusion. Not left to be answered 100 chapters later after everything is over.

secretzfan 2010-11-02 06:35

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Originally Posted by Haak (Post 3327750)
What questions? You mean the ones we've already lost hope of having answers to? That's quite an extensive list so I don't think anybody expects them all to be answered within a chapter, if at all.

Wait we may have not got them all but maybe some

Arjayes 2010-11-02 08:11

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Originally Posted by Haak (Post 3327750)
What questions? You mean the ones we've already lost hope of having answers to? That's quite an extensive list so I don't think anybody expects them all to be answered within a chapter, if at all.

Ideally, unless these questions become a crucial plot point later on, they should be answered the moment they're raised and properly so there's no confusion. Not left to be answered 100 chapters later after everything is over.

Well then you're in either one of two boats. The boat that expects the answers in the future, or the boat that doesn't expect answers at all. Either way it doesn't matter. In one boat you wait because the answers will come eventually, or in the other you shut up because you won't get your answers. I'm not trying to be rude but I couldn't find another word for shut up that would fit with what I was trying to say.

I long for the day Bleach isn't fueled by complaints, but someone could easily turn around and say "I long for the day Kubo learns how to write... and where are my backgrounds?!". I honestly read this manga because I enjoy it. As a matter of fact, the only thing that was a buzzkill for me was Tousen turning into a bug. Other than that I'm okay. Grimmjow? Whatever, he's dead. Nell? Who cares? She was unimportant. Bodies found? Who cares? That declaration was random anyway. Orihime? She's really just boobs to me. If you took a softcore porno and replaced the audio with "Kurosaki-kun" on repeat, that's about the same feeling I get whenever she gets panel time.

tl;dr I don't care enough about Bleach to complain. It's more of an 'eh, that was interesting.'. Sometimes it goes to a 'whoa, that's cool.' but that's it.

Haak 2010-11-02 08:34

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Originally Posted by Arjayes (Post 3327875)
Well then you're in either one of two boats. The boat that expects the answers in the future, or the boat that doesn't expect answers at all. Either way it doesn't matter. In one boat you wait because the answers will come eventually, or in the other you shut up because you won't get your answers. I'm not trying to be rude but I couldn't find another word for shut up that would fit with what I was trying to say.

Shut up about what exactly?

The people that talk about the answers they know they're not gonna get are perfecly justified in doing so. There's nothing wrong with it. This is a forum designed to discuss Bleach. The flaws are just as much a part of Bleach as the good stuff and it's ridiculous to assume otherwise. The fact that they're complaining shows that they care. Why shouldn't they?

secretzfan 2010-11-02 19:52

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Originally Posted by Arjayes (Post 3327875)
Well then you're in either one of two boats. The boat that expects the answers in the future, or the boat that doesn't expect answers at all. Either way it doesn't matter. In one boat you wait because the answers will come eventually, or in the other you shut up because you won't get your answers. I'm not trying to be rude but I couldn't find another word for shut up that would fit with what I was trying to say.

I long for the day Bleach isn't fueled by complaints, but someone could easily turn around and say "I long for the day Kubo learns how to write... and where are my backgrounds?!". I honestly read this manga because I enjoy it. As a matter of fact, the only thing that was a buzzkill for me was Tousen turning into a bug. Other than that I'm okay. Grimmjow? Whatever, he's dead. Nell? Who cares? She was unimportant. Bodies found? Who cares? That declaration was random anyway. Orihime? She's really just boobs to me. If you took a softcore porno and replaced the audio with "Kurosaki-kun" on repeat, that's about the same feeling I get whenever she gets panel time.

tl;dr I don't care enough about Bleach to complain. It's more of an 'eh, that was interesting.'. Sometimes it goes to a 'whoa, that's cool.' but that's it.

You know you make some sense I mean the question we have are important and is a flaw, but why is that flaw so important I mean in my mind it isn't hat Tite can't write is that he hasn't gotten there and in truth Bleach has been a pretty good series through out. I mean we want to see Grimmjow and Nel, but this was a bad time for then to even come out not only that there importance is lessened. Really when Tite allowed Grimmjow to live I really think it was more of a fan thing, and he himself didn't want the character to die like that, but when we saw that flashback I knew then that even in Grimmjow is alive he won't be shown ever again or at least to be part of the plot. Nel just doesn't play a important role now she can't just magically appear if Ichigo can't see her anymore anyway. For all we know the SS may have located her. Orihime just wasn't supposed to be in this chapter it wasn't her time. Rukia is gone now and Tite just can't let Rukia disappear from the plot of course and by Orihime popping up that is what will happen. So he at least wouldn't do that right when we got started
-New chapter- NO WAY!!!

Arjayes 2010-11-03 03:07

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Originally Posted by Haak (Post 3327892)
Shut up about what exactly?

The people that talk about the answers they know they're not gonna get are perfecly justified in doing so. There's nothing wrong with it. This is a forum designed to discuss Bleach. The flaws are just as much a part of Bleach as the good stuff and it's ridiculous to assume otherwise. The fact that they're complaining shows that they care. Why shouldn't they?

I'm not saying they're unjustified in complaining or that they're wrong. Everyone has the right to complain, I'm just saying there's really no point.

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Originally Posted by secretzfan (Post 3328827)
You know you make some sense I mean the question we have are important and is a flaw, but why is that flaw so important I mean in my mind it isn't hat Tite can't write is that he hasn't gotten there and in truth Bleach has been a pretty good series through out. I mean we want to see Grimmjow and Nel, but this was a bad time for then to even come out not only that there importance is lessened. Really when Tite allowed Grimmjow to live I really think it was more of a fan thing, and he himself didn't want the character to die like that, but when we saw that flashback I knew then that even in Grimmjow is alive he won't be shown ever again or at least to be part of the plot. Nel just doesn't play a important role now she can't just magically appear if Ichigo can't see her anymore anyway. For all we know the SS may have located her. Orihime just wasn't supposed to be in this chapter it wasn't her time. Rukia is gone now and Tite just can't let Rukia disappear from the plot of course and by Orihime popping up that is what will happen. So he at least wouldn't do that right when we got started
-New chapter- NO WAY!!!

^^This is kinda what I'm saying. Who cares really? The flaws are done and over, if they get addressed then they get addressed but if they don't then whatever.


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