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Kairin 2013-07-15 22:43

Kami nomi/TWGOK - Weekly Episode-to-Manga Comparison Thread [Spoilers Aplenty]
 
As the title of this thread suggest, the purpose here is to allow discussion which compares the content between an anime episode as it aired and how it is laid out in the source material the anime was adapted from. All spoilers are allowed as long as it is relevant to the discussion at hand. It will be helpful if the posters clearly indicate the episode number before engaging into a detailed comparison to the source material. Obviously you are required to watch the episode prior to posting here. Thread is open to everyone, but since the manga readers are expected to participate, the anime-only viewers are advised to use discretion before venturing into this thread.

For the Kami nomi/TWGOK Manga-Readers: Please do your darndest best to stay on topic when engaging into these comparison. Whenever you see one of your fellow manga-reader is spewing spoiler for no apparent reason, feel free to tell him/her to stop. Report such post so a moderator can delete the off-topic post.

Have fun!

backbone 2013-07-16 08:34

And as expected, the pacing was particularly horrible. Yeah, i enjoyed it, but there were times when I was left confused. I knew WHAT was going on, I just didn't know HOW. The scenes moved and changed in extremely fast pace, to the point where I often said "What the hell is happening here!?". The only thing that amused me a bit was the scene when Keima bump into Hakua in bathroom in completely calm manner, and that's all, nothing else, which is disappointing.

Yeah, yeah, i know. Goddess arc consists of 60++ chapters, hence they can't waste time even a single bit, but this kind of pace is just a total kill even for a manga reader like me, nevermind the anime only viewers

Please, please, announce this show as split cour, so we can have more time to flesh things out

Chaos2Frozen 2013-07-16 08:48

Maybe it's just me but wasn't one of the best things about the Goddess Arc, especially the beginning was the suspense of "Who could be the Goddess?" with lots of twist and misdirection...?

They didn't outright say it, but that's the biggest *HINT HINT* I've seen in the OP/ED >_>

Traece 2013-07-16 09:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen (Post 4760638)
Maybe it's just me but wasn't one of the best things about the Goddess Arc, especially the beginning was the suspense of "Who could be the Goddess?" with lots of twist and misdirection...?

They didn't outright say it, but that's the biggest *HINT HINT* I've seen in the OP/ED >_>

I think I've seen one or two other people make that claim, but the issue is in the pacing of the manga.

The manga names the candidates almost as quickly as the anime does. It really wasn't intended to be a mystery, because if it had been the goddesses wouldn't have been narrowed down right off the bat like they were.

Chaos2Frozen 2013-07-16 09:09

I don't know- I always felt that there's a possibility that Katsuragi could be wrong with his assumptions/speculations/deductions, given how many misdirection were thrown our way.

Here there's none of that.

Reckoner 2013-07-16 14:13

I can't complain too much, given the constraints they're doing a pretty good job. But it is disappointing that they are going so fast. I didn't even get to see Jun Nagase again! :p

There's also the fact that it's Haqua getting hit the hardest by the pacing as she's the main commentator on Keima's actions in these parts.

Kyouka 2013-07-16 20:50

thinking of dropping this series someone give me vm me when they get to the part when haqua is in jail =D

MeoTwister5 2013-07-16 23:12

At this rate we're probably going to reach the main meat of the vintage part probably around episode 7-8.

R.LocK 2013-07-17 04:54

Pacing is too fast, but it's acceptable. Never lost track of what was going on so passable. Even though I'm not satisfied with Yui's part 'cause no Keima's 'I wanna home, save me pleeeeeease". And no teasing on Haqua's part. Damn it. And well, Tsukiyo. Alas, no meaning in pointing out small things if her conquest wasn't shown.

BTW, Haqua's not the one who had been hardest. Poor Diana, really. Her relationship with Keima is so simplified that it is one thing I can be angry with.

XLNC 2013-07-17 06:09

I'll just post this:

Episode 1: Chapters 114-116, 65 (altered), 80 (altered), plus the 5-minute 'recap' containing chapter containing parts of chapters 46, 83 and 88. 5++ chapters.
Episode 2: Chapters 117-125. 9 chapters.

According to the preview, episode 3 will contain chapter 126 up to at least chapter 128. A minimum of 3 chapters.

Rungelunge 2013-07-17 08:37

I've posted in the Speculation thread the titles for the next 3 episodes.
Things gotta go fast.

Silver-Throne 2013-07-18 07:20

It sure is(Aww it`s no fun since I`m an manga reader )

psycho bolt 2013-07-18 22:44

Anime has a lot of serious tones and skipped a lot of humorous parts. Too bad because they were what made the first 2 seasons enjoyable.

Update: Looks like they only rushed 2 first episodes, but episode 3 was perfect in pacing.

Qikz 2013-07-22 05:37

Although the anime has skipped arguably my favourite arc (The Yui one) I can get why they're going with this pacing.

As long as they don't muck up a few specific things then I think even with this pacing it should be a good watch.

XLNC 2013-07-22 13:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by XLNC (Post 4761561)
I'll just post this:

Episode 1: Chapters 114-116, 65 (altered), 80 (altered), plus the 5-minute 'recap' containing chapter containing parts of chapters 46, 83 and 88. 5++ chapters.
Episode 2: Chapters 117-125. 9 chapters.

According to the preview, episode 3 will contain chapter 126 up to at least chapter 128. A minimum of 3 chapters.

Episode 3: Chapters 126-129, plus some of 130 and 131 (both heavily cut), making it less than 5 chapters. Definitely slowed down.

elior 2013-07-22 14:44

looks like most of episode 4 will contain my feivorite creepy part of the arc with tsukiyo by the preview

jvcscasio 2013-07-22 17:23

I think they will make Nora being from vintage, then becoming the good guy, this way, Fiore will be 100% covered! (she wasn't really needed on Katsuragi's sickness).

I hope they will give a good background music and animation for the goddess attack on the library!

SaintessHeart 2013-07-24 07:19

After the first 3 episodes and how they included all the unnecessary details inside, I have little confidence what comes thereafter.

Unless they remove the crossdressing date arc, I demand that the script for the rest of this season be put under a morality foundation's scrutiny for its attempt to mislead younger viewers.

Why the heck do the subbers even have to translate the book Shiori is holding? Is that even needed? We don't need to know the translation of the name of the book that is so misleading!

XLNC 2013-07-29 16:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by XLNC (Post 4767452)
Episode 3: Chapters 126-129, plus some of 130 and 131 (both heavily cut), making it less than 5 chapters. Definitely slowed down.

Episode 4: Chapters 131 to 139 (1st 9 pages), heavily cut. The deletion of Fiore gave the animators some breathing space to animate the whole Vulcan arc in one episode.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintessHeart (Post 4769102)
After the first 3 episodes and how they included all the unnecessary details inside, I have little confidence what comes thereafter.

Unless they remove the crossdressing date arc, I demand that the script for the rest of this season be put under a morality foundation's scrutiny for its attempt to mislead younger viewers.

Why the heck do the subbers even have to translate the book Shiori is holding? Is that even needed? We don't need to know the translation of the name of the book that is so misleading!

TRAP CARD ACTIVATE!
Spoiler for Trap Card:

SaintessHeart 2013-07-29 20:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by XLNC (Post 4775217)
Episode 4: Chapters 131 to 139 (1st 9 pages), heavily cut. The deletion of Fiore gave the animators some breathing space to animate the whole Vulcan arc in one episode.

TRAP CARD ACTIVATE!
Spoiler for Trap Card:

I demand the next episode be pulled off air. Immediately.

MogMoogle1 2013-07-29 22:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by XLNC (Post 4775217)
TRAP CARD ACTIVATE!
Spoiler for Trap Card:

She's quite beautiful.:)

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintessHeart (Post 4775425)
I demand the next episode be pulled off air. Immediately.

Do not deny your hidden urges... embrace it!

MeoTwister5 2013-07-29 23:30

The next episode will probably be quite... polarizing.

elior 2013-08-01 02:14

about diana wings in this episode they dont need to explain this in the anime becouse they did show up in the manga at the same point but only briefly when Tenri turned around they were gone and she never noticed them. The anime did not show Tenri turn and have them vanish.

shadow1296 2013-08-05 17:01

i was wondering how they were going to get mercury's goddess hunt done since it is the longest out of them all now i know they're rushing the others vulcanus's and mars were completed in one episode and it looks like minerva will be completed next that leaves the last half of the season ti focus on ayumi, chihiro, and mercury

ices 2013-08-05 17:18

Episode to Chapter Correlation:

- Season 1 - [1 - 16]
- Season 2 - [17 - 41]
- Four Firls and an Idol OVA - [54 - 55]
- Tenri-hen OVA - [57 - 64]
- Goddess (Passive) Search Arc - [80 - 114]
- Tsukiyo Conquest - [43 - 46]
- Yui Conquest - [81 - 89]
- Akari Conquest - [109 - 113]

Season 3: Goddess Arc - [114 - 189]

- Episode 1 - [114 - 116 Page 14]
- Episode 2 - [116 Page 15 - 125]
- Episode 3 - [126 - 131 Page 7]
- Episode 4 - [131 Page 9 - 139 Page 10]
- Episode 5 - [139 Page 11 - 144 Page 12]

source: /r/anime

XLNC 2013-08-05 17:23

I'll be also using Reddit as reference for the chapters animated.

BTW, some parts of those chapters were deleted from the adaptation, i.e.
Spoiler for manga events not animated:
That means from the middle of 139 up to 144, an estimated equivalent amount of 1.5 chapters skipped, giving an instantaneous rate of 4 chapters/episode.

psycho bolt 2013-08-05 20:34

lots of development with hakua got left out apparently :(

elior 2013-08-06 01:04

i sure they rush the other goddesses so they can fit ayumi concuest into this season since it the most long concuest from all of them

SaintessHeart 2013-08-06 04:05

Fortunately in the animation, he is less kawaii-bishoujo than he is in the manga.

Aesthetic Shampoo 2013-08-06 04:31

The cake scene was cut. I wanted the cake scene :(

Elestia 2013-08-12 15:42

Ah darn. They didn't show Shiori's room in this episode but that is a minor complaint.

trenton_dawn 2013-08-14 14:30

I think this episode and the last have been the best paced so far, partially because the manga source lends itself better to the anime's episodic format. The first volume or so of the goddess conquest moved the main plot at a fast pace for the manga which made it absolutely frenetic in the anime, since the anime trims a lot of the side events (which is a whole different subject I won't get into). In past seasons, there was a clear focus for each episode since there was just one target conquest to think about. But in this season there's a lot of overlapping events.

A particularly difficult point was episode 4--in the manga, Tsukiyo's reconquest was mixed in with the Nora/Fio visit and aftermath, with a ton of major plot points, but the manga's slower pace made it easier to keep up. The anime felt rushed and unfocused even though its adaptation was about as faithful as you could reasonably expect. But with the latest two episodes, the manga source material started focusing in solely on the reconquest, allowing the episode to do the same.

XLNC 2013-08-19 12:18

Episode 7: latter half of ch. 152 to first half of ch. 157.

The Green One 2013-08-19 17:26

At the very end of todays episode a short dialogue scene with one of the two girls speaking to Mercury was removed. Though in hindsight that makes sense, since with the audio part of anime it would give away who Mercury's host is.

omimon 2013-08-28 03:37

Prepare yourself, episode 9 is gonna a painful one.

Elestia 2013-09-02 15:00

Chihiro getting crushed by Keima's overly harsh rejection made me cringe quite hard at the scene. Although, everything after that point especially Katsuragi and Tenri's character development felt kind of flat.

forcerounds 2013-09-02 17:02

They cut out a lot of material in this episode just to keep everything up to pace.

In the manga, when Keima goes to the band practice room and meets Elsie, he disappears as soon as Chihiro and Ayumi show up, and Elsie is left behind. Being intrigued by the Maijima Academy symbol, he heads to the library for more information. Shiori helps him find books and documents about Maijima's foundation, including the fact that the goddess Demeter is the woman in the symbol and the local deity at that. A photograph Shiori finds in the library's archives includes the silhouette of the old theatre that attached to the cave where the loose souls escaped. Keima leaves Shiori behind to find Elsie again.

Keima finds Elsie disguised as Kanon and drags her to the theatre to investigate it once more. From this point on, the anime generally follows the same events as the manga.

I'm glad that episode 9 didn't mess around with the Chihiro scene, but I was sort of looking forward to Keima and Shiori researching Maijima's past. While that information was not particularly relevant to the goddess arc, it might be relevant to the time travel arc if Manglobe chooses to animate that. The preview of episode 10 makes me worried that the episode will not cover Haqua's torture and awesome escape from hell, but I'm impressed that Manglobe has been able to fit in so much material in each episode so far.

Kyouka 2013-09-02 21:08

did they do haqua in hell yet?

psycho bolt 2013-09-02 21:09

not yet if you mean haqua getting out?

They also cut out the band practice scene

elior 2013-09-03 00:40

my guess they will do haqua getting out in the next episode


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