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2. There's a difference between stock footage (which earlier Gundam shows had, except Turn A) and stock animation (Seed and GSD). Examples include the rapid typing sequences (Kira/Stella), and how Akatsuki's animations were derived from (as my memory recalls) Providence, Justice/IJustice, Freedom, and others. http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...ke83/stock.jpg |
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As for Gundam Wing: What? Don’t you know that many Gundam fans (yes, even those who grew up watching Wing) also vocally complained about Wing’s notorious stock footage? It’s a common knowledge that we don’t even have to mention it anymore :heh:. And if you actually watched most of the UC series, they have minimal stock footage/animation. For example, in Zeta, ZZ, & Victory, they mostly use it for MS transformation and MS launching from ships which still makes sense. Yes, some fighting moves got repeated but nowhere near the craziness that is Wing, SEED, & Destiny. |
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Beside, if they try to reanimate new scenes to replace stock footage, it may have to be for the majority of the battles, which would be more work/budget required than what a remaster usually means. Just like with SEED HD Remaster, the number of stock footage isn't changed one way or the other. |
If it is common knowledge for Wing and people have stopped mentioning it, shouldn't it be common knowledge for Destiny as well and that it doesn't need to be said anymore? I can't think up of the right word, but this seem hypocritical or that what I said contradicts the "common knowledge" you mentioned.
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it's like playing Tekken and have them release Tekken v2 with new characters just pasted onto old character movesets, nothing new added except a few bits here and there. Quote:
a prime example would be Break Blade/Broken blades Ghirge episode where theyt change the plot to Anime-Original but still manage to keep your attention with superb animation and choreography throughout the battle. Also, Wing is horrible when it comes to stock animation, but this is a Seed thread, so there is no point about bringing that up here. Quote:
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I think Victory was indeed the best animated of the original UC TV shows (though its coloring was extremely cheap), and after that X and Turn A were also well animated (excluding the OVAs and movies of course since that's a whole separate discussion). All of those pale in comparison to the work that Sunrise has been churning out on TV shows after Destiny though. |
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One thing that hasn't been brought up I guess is that UC focused on more smaller scale battles when action sequences focus on a few suits going at it with each other rather than Seed Destiny's battles which have one or two suits taking down huge armies every episode. It makes each battle feel unique and special instead of generic which sort of became the hallmark of the Seed franchise. |
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Well, I'm pretty lazy just to go and quote what you said. The reason why I brought Wing up is because I barely see people even mention about its animation. All I see, which I have been seeing the past couple of years, is how people are saying that Wing is the best series. I'm sorry, but the plot made no sense, and the Gundams were way too OP. Even more so than SF. Heck, I can name Gundams that SF can't even be compared too. Anyways, you mentione that the plot becomes awkward after episode 12. Well, I think it makes sense. Athrun still haven't found the answer to his question yet, and he wants to do something to help. And considering how good of a talker Durandal is, he gave Athrun a current solution. Shinn, his character takes a huge change. Yes, that is called development, believe or not. He goes from a teenager that has a horrible past, to a teenager that is full of anger(around the Stellar arc). to moving into him wanting a world with no war so that people doesn't need to suffer like he did. Hence he went along with the Destiny Plan. And to him losing everything in the final episode except Luna, as intended, and his development finished. That, is an anti-hero, and no, Destiny still focus on Shinn more than Kira. Look at episode 48 of the Remaster, that episode clearly focused on Shinn rather than on Kira. Moving on the Kira, he makes sense. His living his "back to normal" life. He clearly didn't want any fighting to happen again. But due to events, he went back to piloting his Freedom. Even so, he doesn't know if what he is doing is the correct thing. But he just can't do anything. That is what he was poundering about the whole series. What he really should be doing, and if what he is doing is the correct thing. Fast forward to the Destiny Plan arc, he knows that his job now is the make sure that the Destiny Plan won't go through. All the way to the last episode with his conversation with Durandal, he has set a clear path for himself. That is that he is prepared to fight if another war breaks out. This time, he has a clear resolution of what he should be doing. Durandal, his plan did not come out of nowhere, he clearly wants to change the world, and this was clearly mentioned multiple times. During a recap, he mentioned the names of the nucleobases. Rey, he was fighting hoping to change the world, But he realized that the world he is helping to fight for has no tomorrow. Which is what he truly wants considering his life is short. So, I'm going to end here. |
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Hey, there are people who think G Gundam is the best, you know?
Say, has anyone compare beam shot from different series? I mean, with UC, it's a simple yellow. With 00, there are sparkles in the beam. And in SEED, there is always a white outline next to the light red beam. |
I found g gundam fun to watch. But the action scenes weren't that good. To be honest, dbz had better fighting scenes.
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Obelisk summed it up quite well, i'm not a big fan of Gundam Wing either for that matter. Anti-hero or not, Shinn and the Minerva crew gets shafted for Kira & the AA crew, Athrun stays as a main character pretty much throughout the show, as he did in SEED. Now, the main problem i have with Destiny is that it introduces you to a new likeable cast, then abandons them and doesnt bother developing them any more when they bring in the old crew. Not to mention they don't really bother developing the AA crew further either. Not to mention Neo or the druggies, well, the Destiny druggies did get more development than the Seed ones. |
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Still, on the subject of stock animation, it does bother me, but probably not as much as most people who already dislike the show for other reasons. On the one hand, it's cheap and flimsy and easily recognizable. On the other hand, it doesn't hurt the PLOT in any meaningful way and that's really why I watch the show. On the gripping hand, having new animation wouldn't hurt the plot either. I may not be so shallow as to say I watch mecha for the fights, but there is no reason why a show with an interesting plot can't have a good fight too... |
I don't think anyone would mind a good mecha fight.
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Of course no one would mind a good mecha fight. Destiny had good fights in it. But the fighting scenes are a whole other case. What really bothers me is when people go as far to say Shinn did not develop at all. Clearly, people think that character development means a character becoming the "good guys". They even went and said Kira had no development in Destiny. People complained how Shinn was not like Kamille. And if he was, they would still complain how it is a "ripoff" of UC. People complained about Kira back in SEED.
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