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BetoJR 2010-08-31 08:43

I'd rather have whiskey, but that'll do. Actually, just a coke. :p

cheesie 2010-08-31 09:00

I had no idea there was a release date for the second movie already!

And the poster looks really mahou-shoujo like - I could just picture the second movie ending with a Sheryl x Ranka duet yet again, this time with magical pink sparkles and rainbows and all. :P (Of course, there better be more than just that, or many heads will roll, says the fans.)

Yot-chan 2010-08-31 09:45

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Originally Posted by Westlo (Post 3219956)
Honestly none of this shit matters, all shows should have some unresolved things remaining and not have everything ticked off from a list. What should've been resolved though was the thing that drove and dominated the show, the love triangle. Now MacrossWorld old guard with sticks up their asses can get pissy all they want when the triangle is brought up, (not talking about you Yot) doesn't change the fact that the triangle dominated the show period It should've been resolved, ghostlightning's blog details why far better than I could so i wouldn't even try to half ass explain it when he's said if much better than I could.

I absolutely agree...the major plot points are resolved; yeah, there are tons of little details and loose ends to engage the specialist, but most people aren't Frontier specialists. Every work of fiction ALWAYS has loose ends and unanswered questions.

(And hey...it's okay. I do have a stick up my ass about people who obsess over the love triangle to the exclusion of all else. :D So include me all you want!)

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Originally Posted by magnuskn (Post 3219964)
Just responding to the scurillous assertion that there is nothing more to tell from Frontier, Westlo. Yeah, my main point is still the damn romance was left unresolved (which is different from "inconclusive", btw ) and that was pathetic storytelling and needs to be corrected in the series continuity. But nobody can tell me that an OVA would just consist of "Sheryl and Alto embrace, Ranka wails "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!", The End". There are still lots of things which could be done for one or more episodes of an OVA. A second season would need more stuff, but as I said, I just put five minutes of quite pissed off thinking into it, I imagine more creative people like Shoji Kawamori could conceivably come up with something more to do with these hugely popular characters than little me.

Ummm...yeah. I didn't say there was nothing else to be said, ever...just that the story was resolved. An epilogue would've been nice, but it didn't happen. It didn't happen for any other Macross series, either. What happened to the three Zentradi spies from the original series? Was everyone on the Macross's bridge okay after Kamujin's final attack? What about Claudia? Did she ever find love again, or did she just drink herself to death? Was Isamu punished or rewarded? Did he and Myung end up together? Who did Mylene finally choose? Did Max and Milia ever get back together? Where are Shin and Sara?

It's par for the course. We can HOPE, of course, but I'm just trying to be realistic about it.

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Originally Posted by magnuskn (Post 3219964)
Whoever first says "Inconceivable!" gets an iocane powder coctail. ;)

You keep'a usin' dat word. I don'na think it means what you think it means. :p

Mei19 2010-08-31 10:39

So that's how it is.

1st movie- Sheryl
2nd movie- Ranka~

Common denominator- Trolly ending!

If I'm Kawamori and I'm having a field day with all the profits I earned by not resolving the triangle, I wouldn't go there either. Point is. Don't keep your hopes up about any LT resolution and just enjoy what they give you. That will save you from getting distressed over cartoons.

Shoujo = Awesome! Ranka's poster = Awesome! So I'd take shoujo fluff any day over Emo movie posters.:cool:

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and you've asserted on many an occasion that THERE IS NO DOUBT that Alto chose Sheryl.
LOL!!

magnuskn 2010-08-31 18:04

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Originally Posted by Yot-chan (Post 3220361)
Ummm...yeah. I didn't say there was nothing else to be said, ever...just that the story was resolved. An epilogue would've been nice, but it didn't happen. It didn't happen for any other Macross series, either. What happened to the three Zentradi spies from the original series? Was everyone on the Macross's bridge okay after Kamujin's final attack? What about Claudia? Did she ever find love again, or did she just drink herself to death? Was Isamu punished or rewarded? Did he and Myung end up together? Who did Mylene finally choose? Did Max and Milia ever get back together? Where are Shin and Sara?

It's par for the course. We can HOPE, of course, but I'm just trying to be realistic about it.

Yeah, of course they could just stop bringing out Macross material, but I think the chances for some OVA's are quite higher than you think. We'll see after movie two, I guess.

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Originally Posted by Yot-chan (Post 3220361)
You keep'a usin' dat word. I don'na think it means what you think it means. :p

Why do I suspect Beto hasn't seen Princess Bride? ^^

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Originally Posted by Mei19 (Post 3220426)
LOL!!

C'mon, give me a credible way Ranka ends up with Alto. You know, with motivations on why Alto would chose her, given all circumstances, his promise to Sheryl and with all which happened before. My skills in dissecting arguments from the Ranka side haven't gone to rust, I think. Make my day. :)

BetoJR 2010-08-31 20:22

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Originally Posted by magnuskn (Post 3221106)
Why do I suspect Beto hasn't seen Princess Bride? ^^

Why? I didn't get eaten by eels yet...

raile 2010-08-31 23:23

Hmm...I just hope parents don't bring their litter of kids to the movie on account of that poster.

"Oh, look a magical girl! I wanna watch that mommy!"

"Of course, dear. What could it be possibly about? It must be G-rated with a lot of rainbows and unicorns!"

Westlo 2010-09-01 02:56

The current discussion for Highschool of the Dead is pretty fun, especially when Macross got brought into it for the lolz.

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Originally Posted by Mei19 (Post 3220426)
[B][FONT="Century Gothic"]So that's how it is.

1st movie- Sheryl
2nd movie- Ranka~

Wow girl you need to get a clue, movie 1 is all about Ranka too. You need a link to a bleach forum so you can see the light.

Shiroth 2010-09-01 03:03

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Originally Posted by raile (Post 3221529)
"It must be G-rated with a lot of rainbows and unicorns!"

That would be Macross 7. :heh:

magnuskn 2010-09-01 05:13

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Originally Posted by BetoJR (Post 3221267)
Why? I didn't get eaten by eels yet...

There are certain...answer expected when certain code words fall. :D

BetoJR 2010-09-01 06:18

But don't you understand anything that's going on?

magnuskn 2010-09-01 10:04

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Originally Posted by BetoJR (Post 3221891)
But don't you understand anything that's going on?

Maybe now I am drawing blanks on quotes from the movie? Eh, let's move on. :p

BetoJR 2010-09-01 14:59

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magnuskn 2010-09-01 17:24

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OMG, Westley! <rolls down the hill> :D

justavisitor 2010-09-01 19:47

I wonder how the japanese audiences will react to the 2nd movie...imo the gap between the two movies is too big lol...plus it's almost 2 years after the series and the hype about Frontier is pretty much gone...

P.S I thought the original ending was 3 ppl lived happily ever after...just like those classic tales...no one will say those classic tales are left unresolved?? :heh:

Tak 2010-09-01 21:32

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Originally Posted by justavisitor (Post 3223148)
I wonder how the japanese audiences will react to the 2nd movie...imo the gap between the two movies is too big lol...

Tell that to the people making the new Evangelion movies and New Type polls.

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Originally Posted by justavisitor (Post 3223148)
plus it's almost 2 years after the series and the hype about Frontier is pretty much gone...

For you maybe.

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Originally Posted by justavisitor (Post 3223148)
P.S I thought the original ending was 3 ppl lived happily ever after...just like those classic tales...no one will say those classic tales are left unresolved?? :heh:

Those classic tales rarely involved a love-triangle at the end.

- Tak

pinoy78 2010-09-02 02:51

I never would've guessed Sheryl would have THAT MUCH staying power in the Newtype polls.

Color me impressed. The Galactic Fairy will be rememberedq for a LONG time.

magnuskn 2010-09-02 03:16

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Originally Posted by pinoy78 (Post 3223892)
I never would've guessed Sheryl would have THAT MUCH staying power in the Newtype polls.

Color me impressed. The Galactic Fairy will be rememberedq for a LONG time.

Are you kidding me? She is a fantastic character. :)

Actually, I am puzzled that she doesn't constantly rank higher, but then again Japanese otaku culture is at this point heavily slanted towards moeblobs ( see K-ON ), so it's amazing that she can overcome that barrier in the first place.

Crimrui 2010-09-03 11:42

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Originally Posted by magnuskn (Post 3223912)
Are you kidding me? She is a fantastic character. :)

Actually, I am puzzled that she doesn't constantly rank higher, but then again Japanese otaku culture is at this point heavily slanted towards moeblobs ( see K-ON ), so it's amazing that she can overcome that barrier in the first place.

She would probably venture higher if there were music games aka ''Sing with Sheryl'' or something similar. I'm surprised she isn't a featured character in that Vocaloid game series.

I still think a mech action + dating game would be a perfect combo ;)

BetoJR 2010-09-03 14:16

Why, yes, it would. I'd love one of those.


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