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Zeydra 2012-09-12 01:28
If they make a Burst Mode version and include effect parts for it to be the actual Burst Mode version then I would totally buy it.

Wouldn't bother if it's just a recolour though like the Trans-Am kits, special coating kits always picked me as more hassle than they are worth, what with all the nub marks they musty have and so on.

Znozzy 2012-09-12 03:27
As long as they don't look like the beam effects for the Freedom that was released during the HD Remaster, it'd be quite nice.

StrikeFreedomV2 2012-09-12 10:56
Found that via Google :) Looks awesome, IMO :D

http://gundamcentury.com/wp-content/...ury-free13.jpg

GameraBaenre 2012-09-12 11:26
Speed build for me, but it's about 97% done. I still have the heat hawk to finish up, but for all intents and purposes. It's done. Hope you guys like it.

http://gamerabaenre.com/images/midni...%20014_JPG.jpg

Here's the blog post that details the final steps in the build as well as the display stand build: http://gamerabaenre.com/?p=2625

And for the full details on the build progression, go here: http://gamerabaenre.com/?page_id=2600

Obelisk ze Tormentor 2012-09-12 23:23
That looks so badass, Gamera! The red and black stripes reminds me of (if you know the franchise) Fate/Stay Night servants when they get into Dark Mode. :D

Asuras 2012-09-13 02:09
So, I'm a rather new person to mecha model hobbies, and I figured if I had a question about such things, there's no better place than here. I definitely have no problem with construction, but what I can never seem to get past is finishing with a flawless surface on my models. What do you guys use to get rid of blemishes/leftover plastic? Do you paint over them, or use a tool that files them till they're flat? Also, what tools do you use to simply remove each piece from the trays? I (luckily) haven't had many breaks when trying to remove them, but they never seem to come out looking to hot (still have plastic dust/edges/bumps on them after removing). To note, I use a knife to saw away the pieces from the tray very slowly. I'm not sure if this is the right method or not. :heh:

Any help would be much appreciated. Btw, I love all of your pictures and finished models, everyone. Makes me wish I had the money to buy more. :p

Obelisk ze Tormentor 2012-09-13 02:30
@Asuras
Let’s see, if you’re not a guy who likes to paint or air-brushing, using a knife or file to clean the plastic nubs on the surface is already a good method. Still, if I were you, I won’t use just any kind of knife. You better use a hobby-knife which is perfectly designed for such job. You can get it (& other tools for your kits) in stores that sell model kits. Also, after you cut the nubs, it is better if you paint the nub-spots with color-matching markers a little. For example, for Gundam models (Gunplas), Bandai already provide some Gundam Markers with various colors for you to buy & use.

If you like to air-brush, that’s even more simple. Just use the knife (some might suggest using sand-paper, but I still prefer the knife) to clean the nubs and then just brush it away.

To be clearer, you might want to check this link:
http://gunpla-inochi.com/tools/

I hope that helps ;).

suiton629 2012-09-13 08:13
Quote:
Originally Posted by Asuras (Post 4349757)
So, I'm a rather new person to mecha model hobbies, and I figured if I had a question about such things, there's no better place than here. I definitely have no problem with construction, but what I can never seem to get past is finishing with a flawless surface on my models. What do you guys use to get rid of blemishes/leftover plastic? Do you paint over them, or use a tool that files them till they're flat? Also, what tools do you use to simply remove each piece from the trays? I (luckily) haven't had many breaks when trying to remove them, but they never seem to come out looking to hot (still have plastic dust/edges/bumps on them after removing). To note, I use a knife to saw away the pieces from the tray very slowly. I'm not sure if this is the right method or not. :heh:

Any help would be much appreciated. Btw, I love all of your pictures and finished models, everyone. Makes me wish I had the money to buy more. :p
1. You need to have the expensive tools. The quality difference is noticeable.
- Tamiya Hard File Pro
- Tamiya Modeler's Knife Pro
- Tamiya Modeler's Side Cutter
... If you're gonna use these, use the side cutter to nip off pieces, but leave a little extra. Then get close to the part and get it off. If there is still excess, then use the knife or file. Don't go back and forth since that'll leave an uneven surface.

2. If you want that pro look, you need to sand down w/ the metal file. This will leave scratch marks. But what you do is "fill them in" with a primer. Then you give it maybe 1 or 2 thin layers of paint with a air brush or you could hand brush, and then top coat.

That's a lot of effort. Personally, I just use Gundam Markers to fix nub marks and then if I want, I top coat.

StrikeFreedomV2 2012-09-13 09:11
Great looking AGE-FX custom :love:

http://www.gunjap.net/site/?p=93741

Bonta Kun 2012-09-13 09:18
Quote:
Originally Posted by xxnike629xx (Post 4350035)
1. You need to have the expensive tools. The quality difference is noticeable.
- Tamiya Hard File Pro
- Tamiya Modeler's Knife Pro
- Tamiya Modeler's Side Cutter
... If you're gonna use these, use the side cutter to nip off pieces, but leave a little extra. Then get close to the part and get it off. If there is still excess, then use the knife or file. Don't go back and forth since that'll leave an uneven surface.

2. If you want that pro look, you need to sand down w/ the metal file. This will leave scratch marks. But what you do is "fill them in" with a primer. Then you give it maybe 1 or 2 thin layers of paint with a air brush or you could hand brush, and then top coat.

That's a lot of effort. Personally, I just use Gundam Markers to fix nub marks and then if I want, I top coat.
I will have to add that no you don't need to get expensive tools for the best results.
Alot of the tools you can get at local shops will more than likely do the job for you, just as long as it's not dirt and very badly made but you'd be able to notice that when buying them anyway.
However I find that you should find a nice good hobby knife, so spending a tad more on that is good idea but again you really don't need to(you can find good ones for pretty cheap anyway)
Following the guide Obelisk ze Tormentor posted is good start but no need to get the Tamiya stuff if you want to save some money(that stuff can be abit pricey)

For getting rid of nub marks can try this guide out.

Also if your having trouble cutting pieces out of the runners, then I advise to cut the runner up itself into smaller more manageable pieces to handle.
Instead of cutting the piece straight out you can cut away the runner from around off instead but that requires more work(altho putting in lots of tender loving care is part of the hobby:p)
I just tend to cut up the runners into quarters for easier work.

Quote:
Great looking AGE-FX custom

http://www.gunjap.net/site/?p=93741
Now that is pretty damn cool, Hi-Nu FX?:D

StrikeFreedomV2 2012-09-13 09:26
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonta Kun (Post 4350116)
I will have to add that no you don't need to get expensive tools for the best results.
Alot of the tools you can get at local shops will more than likely do the job for you, just as long as it's not dirt and very badly made but you'd be able to notice that when buying them anyway.
However I find that you should find a nice good hobby knife, so spending a tad more on that is good idea but again you really don't need to(you can find good ones for pretty cheap anyway)
Following the guide Obelisk ze Tormentor posted is good start but no need to get the Tamiya stuff if you want to save some money(that stuff can be abit pricey)

For getting rid of nub marks can try this guide out.

Also if your having trouble cutting pieces out of the runners, then I advise to cut the runner up itself into smaller more manageable pieces to handle.
Instead of cutting the piece straight out you can cut away the runner from around off instead but that requires more work(altho putting in lots of tender loving care is part of the hobby:p)
I just tend to cut up the runners into quarters for easier work.



Now that is pretty damn cool, Hi-Nu FX?:D
I agree, I don't use expensive stuff either and still get good results.

AGE Hi-FX! :D

suiton629 2012-09-13 22:51
You think Bandai could release a MG Exia R2 as a P-Bandai Online Exclusive?

FalsePrime 2012-09-14 01:57
They seem to be using it for several things at this point and I do expect we will start to see more unique stuff other then just recolors as time goes by.

I don't know if they would do it with Exia given it's a lead and fairly popular one at that.

maknaedik 2012-09-14 05:20
Quote:
Originally Posted by xxnike629xx (Post 4351008)
You think Bandai could release a MG Exia R2 as a P-Bandai Online Exclusive?
Nope. Not even as a regular release.

firefox 2012-09-14 09:40
My lastest build, and for now my favorite 1/144 HG model! The G-Bouncer!

Even if you do not like Gundam AGE, this design is great, the quality is superb! I can't recommend it enough. And this come from a guy who does not like the color White :D

This guy begs for being MG-ed!!!!

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...G-Bouncer1.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...G-Bouncer2.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...G-Bouncer3.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...G-Bouncer4.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...G-Bouncer5.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...G-Bouncer6.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...G-Bouncer7.jpg

suiton629 2012-09-14 09:46
Quote:
Originally Posted by firefox (Post 4351742)
My lastest build, and for now my favorite 1/144 HG model! The G-Bouncer!

Even if you do not like Gundam AGE, this design is great, the quality is superb! I can't recommend it enough. And this come from a guy who does not like the color White :D

This guy begs for being MG-ed!!!!

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I totally agree man! I actually want the 3 Woolf suits in MG. I built the Genoace Custom, G-Exes, and G-Bouncer and I actually enjoyed building them. They're so well done, details look great, and for a HG especially the quality and detail is amazing. =)

Also, the Age-2 Normal Special Ops should get an MG to "complete" the series of white suits from Age.

Reference the video below to be amazed with the 4 HG's.. =P I rarely post my built GunPla kits on public because too many people just being stupid by automatically thumb downing the video...makes no sense.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksS-HgybQ4g&hd=1

And besides, my MG and 1/100 collection is begging for those 4 to get MG releases (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi37rOFi7Ek&hd=1)

suiton629 2012-09-14 12:18
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Anyone here think that the Perfect Grade is pretty much dead?

FalsePrime 2012-09-14 12:48
Perfect Grade isn't dead.

This isn't the first time that we have had a gap in PG releases and it won't be the last.

Also over half the PG's are recolors anyway so you got to remember the amount of unique PG's we have is incredibly small.

We will get another in time, but the combination of size, complexity, and overall popularlity has to line up just right for us to get these. These things are huge and take alot to design on top of asking alot even for heavy Gunpla fans to pay so they can't just throw them out whenever and of whatever and expect them to do well.

suiton629 2012-09-14 12:51
Quote:
Originally Posted by FalsePrime (Post 4352029)
Perfect Grade isn't dead.

This isn't the first time that we have had a gap in PG releases and it won't be the last.

Also over half the PG's are recolors anyway so you got to remember the amount of unique PG's we have is incredibly small.

We will get another in time, but the combination of size, complexity, and overall popularlity has to line up just right for us to get these. These things are huge and take alot to design on top of asking alot even for heavy Gunpla fans to pay so they can't just throw them out whenever and of whatever and expect them to do well.
Those are my issues with PG.

1. Expensive
2. take a long time to come out
3. not many people buy it relative to like SD, HG, MG, and now RG...

Wouldn't it be more cost effective to get rid of PG and work towards improving quality and color separation in SD, RG, HG, and MG?

FalsePrime 2012-09-14 13:18
Quote:
Originally Posted by xxnike629xx (Post 4352033)
Those are my issues with PG.

1. Expensive
2. take a long time to come out
3. not many people buy it relative to like SD, HG, MG, and now RG...

Wouldn't it be more cost effective to get rid of PG and work towards improving quality and color separation in SD, RG, HG, and MG?
No this is a line entirely dedicated to the most popular suits at some of the highest quality for those modelers who want the most indepth design they can have.

The other Grades are always being improved upon, that is why we have modelers always talking about how High Grades of today out class early MG's, and how stuff like Nu needs a new MG to keep up with todays quality. There is no reason to drop the PG line just for others. Even if they did drop the PG line, there is no reason to believe that MG's and the rest would suddenly get a quality bump anyway.

Your reasons for the drop of a line that has proven popular and by all account profitable for Bandai are completely selfish and really have no benefit to anyone other then to deprive those who really love the line.

PG's aren't for everyone, but neither should they be dropped because of that. They have their place just as HG, MG, RG, and NG's.

Bonta Kun 2012-09-14 18:06
Quote:
Originally Posted by xxnike629xx (Post 4352033)
Those are my issues with PG.

1. Expensive
2. take a long time to come out
3. not many people buy it relative to like SD, HG, MG, and now RG...

Wouldn't it be more cost effective to get rid of PG and work towards improving quality and color separation in SD, RG, HG, and MG?
Those issues pretty much apply to everyone, being expensive is so painfully obvious it ends up not be worth the time to worry about.
Way I see the PG line is it's abit like an "exclusive line", something to treat yourself with if you ever get the money to get one.

And your 3rd reason is not an issue cause that's just even more so obvious than the 1st, given that the 1st reason is most likely the biggest reason PGs don't sell as much as other lines.
But I don't think one can make the mistake of thinking PGs aren't wanted, cause I would like to think everyone would like to have them given the chance.

Der Langrisser 2012-09-14 18:39
Like it's said above me, the PG line is more of a "deluxe" line than anything else, it's when you want a really, really nice model.
As the happy owner of a PG Aile Strike and a PG Strike Freedom, I can tell these models surclass their MG counterparts in every way.
The only downside is the space these kit takes, particularly the Strike Freedom with its wings fully deployed.

FalsePrime 2012-09-14 19:52
Yeah at this point the only one that is really debated is Wing G Zero Custom.

Some will say the PG is better and others will say the MG (OO Raiser gets some flack, but not nearly as much as Zero), outside of him though if you love these suits and want the ultimate form of them then the PG is the only way to go.

bio9205 2012-09-14 22:49
Awesome G-Bouncer you got there firefox! All that panel lining you did on it almost makes me want to go out and grab one right now. :D

firefox 2012-09-15 01:34
Quote:
Originally Posted by bio9205 (Post 4352808)
Awesome G-Bouncer you got there firefox! All that panel lining you did on it almost makes me want to go out and grab one right now. :D
Thank you :)

Because the suit is entirely white it really needs the pannelining to look good, the black pannelining contrast with the white overall color is great. Also i painted some area's like underneath the shield, bottom of the feet, lower torso and the backpack truster inlets grey to break the overall white a bit. Quite happy with the result.

Next model will be a UC fanboy favored 1/100 MG. That's gonna take a while...

MakubeX2 2012-09-15 08:12
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...2824042&type=1

HasuMasu 2012-09-16 03:04
Took some not so good pictures with a 2004 camera at yesterday's convention, sorry about the quality.

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Wish I had taken more pictures, there really was a lot there.

We even had an area where people can build.

There was a large Rx-78-2 statue that I took a picture with, but for the life of me I can't find it.

Obelisk ze Tormentor 2012-09-16 04:26
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hasumi (Post 4354637)
Took some not so good pictures with a 2004 camera at yesterday's convention, sorry about the quality.

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Wish I had taken more pictures, there really was a lot there.

We even had an area where people can build.

There was a large Rx-78-2 statue that I took a picture with, but for the life of me I can't find it.
OMG, Hasumi! Those are huge fotos! :uhoh:
Don't you want to reduce the size a bit so that us viewers can get a better grasp of your fotos? ;)

Speaking of your fotos, that Titus custom paint is nice. It's even better than the original color-scheme imo.

Btw, exactly how many people ordered that Asuna dakimakura? :p

HasuMasu 2012-09-16 05:05
I can't believe I linked the wrong photo. :twitch:

Err, since I don't quite know how to make thumb-nails...opening them in another tab scales them down to just what the browser can display.

suiton629 2012-09-16 06:41
So looks like we'll get an Age-1 Flat with parts for Grandsa and Zefuld together..maybe?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Zgwa4zg5UY...4/s1600/91.jpg

StrikeFreedomV2 2012-09-16 06:52
Quote:
Originally Posted by xxnike629xx (Post 4354867)
So looks like we'll get an Age-1 Flat with parts for Grandsa and Zefuld together..maybe?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Zgwa4zg5UY...4/s1600/91.jpg
I wouldn't count on it, at least not in MG-form.

duotiga 2012-09-16 06:54
Quote:
Originally Posted by StrikeFreedomV2 (Post 4354874)
I wouldn't count on it.
actually i do see there's a potential of a kit coming out (HG & MG) though

now i'm really looking forward to MG Dark Hound release

StrikeFreedomV2 2012-09-16 06:56
Quote:
Originally Posted by duotiga (Post 4354876)
actually i do see there's a potential of a kit coming out (HG & MG) though

now i'm really looking forward to MG Dark Hound release
I meant a MG-Release. Should had pointed that out. A HG though could be possibly.

suiton629 2012-09-16 07:04
Quote:
Originally Posted by duotiga (Post 4354876)
actually i do see there's a potential of a kit coming out (HG & MG) though

now i'm really looking forward to MG Dark Hound release
:D

A MG is likely now. I was waiting to see if they would use the Zefuld Launcher again. It looks like it was, and I suspect the last few episodes will have the Age-1 Flat using it.

If it does come out, I'm gonna be very happy to add it to my MG Age collection. =P
I'm even more excited for the Darkhound MG now, and I can't wait for Bandai to get the rest out in MG.

bio9205 2012-09-16 09:01
Quote:
Originally Posted by xxnike629xx (Post 4354867)
So looks like we'll get an Age-1 Flat with parts for Grandsa and Zefuld together..maybe?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Zgwa4zg5UY...4/s1600/91.jpg
Hopeful we'll see it in HG it least, I really want my Aile Strike Gundam Assaultshroud. :D Hopefully it'll come with swappable parts for the missile or the cannons as well.

suiton629 2012-09-16 09:22
Quote:
Originally Posted by bio9205 (Post 4355019)
Hopeful we'll see it in HG it least, I really want my Aile Strike Gundam Assaultshroud. :D Hopefully it'll come with swappable parts for the missile or the cannons as well.
Most likely we'll get an HG and an MG...
Maybe an SD set with Age-1 Flat (all wears) and then another with Darkhound and Special Ops?

Anyway~ I would hope Bandai would give us the MG of this guy. It would make sense since it is a lead..

Age-FX --> likely
Age-1 Flat (Grandsa with Zefuld pack) --> hoping
Darkhound --> confirmed

maknaedik 2012-09-16 09:39
Hate to admit this but, I'd love to see Age-1 Grandsa with Zefuld pack in MG form.

Anyway, among all the wishlist of nike, Age-1 Flat Normal is the most stupid. At least Age-2 Normal Special Ops is all white. :)

Zeydra 2012-09-16 12:19
I still can't help but shake the feeling that Bandai may cut the AGE line short for the Master Grade, they're even doing that with the High Grade line (Kronos and Fawn Farsia both seem like obvious kits to make, but still no sign). They were all set to milk AGE to the max, but it not doing well makes me think we'll get the important Gundam's (FX and maybe AGE-3 Normal) and the fan favourite forms (like Dark Hound) and they'll call it a day.

I seriously hope I'm wrong, because AGE has some great designs, but I won't hold my breath for Double Bullet, AGE-1 Grandsa, and the two AGE-3 forms.

suiton629 2012-09-16 19:33
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeydra (Post 4355280)
I still can't help but shake the feeling that Bandai may cut the AGE line short for the Master Grade, they're even doing that with the High Grade line (Kronos and Fawn Farsia both seem like obvious kits to make, but still no sign). They were all set to milk AGE to the max, but it not doing well makes me think we'll get the important Gundam's (FX and maybe AGE-3 Normal) and the fan favourite forms (like Dark Hound) and they'll call it a day.

I seriously hope I'm wrong, because AGE has some great designs, but I won't hold my breath for Double Bullet, AGE-1 Grandsa, and the two AGE-3 forms.
Thing is, Bandai has been trying to release kits from:

Wing
Seed
Unicorn (and older UC like the MG V Gundam ver. Ka)
Age

That's 4 series with only the Age series being the most current. It's no surprise that we're not seeing more HG's.

The Age MG kits are basically highly detailed HG kits in a 1/100 scale, not quite as detailed and complicated as the 00 MG's..

So basically, what I currently think we'll see w/ MG kits from Age..

Darkhound --> confirmed
Special Ops --> online exclusive
Double Bullet
Age-3 Normal
Obital
Fortress
FX
Age-1 Flat Grandsa w/ Zefuld Launcher).

So in the end we will have:

Age-1 Normal
Age-1 Titus
Age-1 Sparrow
Age-1 Grandsa

Age-2 Normal
Age-2 Darkhound
Age-2 Double Bullet
Age-2 Special Ops

Age-3 Normal
Age-3 Orbital
Age-3 Fortress
Age-FX

So from each of the 3 pilots, we get 4 MG's... all being variations of each other w/ Age-FX being totally a new one.

Makes sense?

* Red = released or confirmed

derrickmc63 2012-09-16 21:31
does anyone here own a mg sandrock. I just want to know if this kit needs a lot of shelf space for using dynamic poses


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