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monster 2012-10-13 11:48

Then, are they not releasing enough Unicorn (and other UC) kits or is the whole market just not doing well, going by the drop in 2011-2012?

I'm also curious to know the market share of UC kits.

firefox 2012-10-13 11:56

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Originally Posted by Znozzy (Post 4394379)
both yes and no, there was a article with that diagram that confirmed that the majority of gunpla sales on that diagram is UC kits, and that AGE kits arent selling well at all, i wish i bookmarked it now so i could link it. but whatever, the picture should give nike a overall clear idea that AGE kits arent selling too well to warrant AGE MG's all the time ;)

Edit: Article was interviews with 7-10ish store owners that complained about their AGE stocks not selling

Age might not be the best gundam series ever, it had some great ideas, the problem is they stay way to close to the origional gundam story which is getting old and boring. I love the gunpla kits, the quality is superb!

The AGE RD figures aren't fantastic designwise with the stretched torsos, but HLJ has them on sale so i bought all 4. It isn't the first RD that doesn't sell well, the Ahead (all version) from 00 gundam were also very bad sellers, even if they are quite good figures (that miss some features, but that's an RD line problem)

And yes there is a economic crisis in the world so sales are bound to be falling a bit.

I still intend to get the MG AGE-1 normal.

Znozzy 2012-10-13 11:59

Honestly, i don't know if they arent releasing enough kits or if the entire market is doing bad, but the usual boom comes when you announce a new series & release new kits(as you can see in the diagram), then it usually takes a dive until more kits are made, i hope someone releases a new diagram for the full year of 2012 so we can see if the sales went up or if they keep falling.

I'll see if i can dig the article up for you monster.

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Originally Posted by firefox (Post 4394401)
Age might not be the best gundam series ever, it had some great ideas, the problem is they stay way to close to the origional gundam story which is getting old and boring. I love the gunpla kits, the quality is superb!

The AGE RD figures aren't fantastic designwise with the stretched torsos, but HLJ has them on sale so i bought all 4. It isn't the first RD that doesn't sell well, the Ahead (all version) from 00 gundam were also very bad sellers, even if they are quite good figures (that miss some features, but that's an RD line problem)

And yes there is a economic crisis in the world so sales are bound to be falling a bit.

I still intend to get the MG AGE-1 normal.

imo, AGE is horrible, but i still like it, it has some good parts but honestly it wasnt really a good show, it had a really good OST and a few likeable characters, but i wouldnt recommend it to someone, i plan on getting a AGE-2 (Normal) MG (And AGE-3 Orbital, if we get one) once i finish my backlist, the show has some amazing designs, too bad the storytelling wasnt as good as the mecha designs :/

Obelisk ze Tormentor 2012-10-13 13:18

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Originally Posted by xxnike629xx (Post 4394268)
So then similarly, why can't Bandai package everything in the MG Age-1 Flat?

--> gransa armor
--> zefuld launcher
--> glastron launcher

Oh, sure they can. The question is whether or not they will do it, and thatís the big question that nobody here can answer exactly. Before Bandai announce anything, we can only speculate.

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Originally Posted by Znozzy (Post 4394273)
Oh, nothing, nothing, just check the HG > 1/100 and MG's head, the constant redesign of it.

Imo itís simply because the HG 1/144 & 1/100 donít replicate SFís head well. The HG 1/60 got it good, then it was perfected by the MG & PG ;).

Skye629 2012-10-13 16:40

I honestly agree about the AGE MG kits from a personal perspective, the only MG from it so far which I would consider getting is the AGE-2 DHm simply due to the fact that the design is great, and the overall rule that pirate gundams are win

As for the HG's Bandai can go all out since they're relatively easy to make, and they are quite cheap compared to some of the more expensive (and nicer, I love my HGUC Sazabi lol) HGUC kits

duotiga 2012-10-13 22:08

the beauty of RG Zeta

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-gNc3SXNoxE...m+%2810%29.jpg

more over here....

http://www.gundamkitscollection.com/...l#.UHosa640iSo

suiton629 2012-10-13 22:27

Master Grade Aegis Review
http://gundamguy.blogspot.com/2012/1...review-by.html

Looks like you need to at least paint up the clear pieces for the forehead camera in clear blue or metallic blue.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-bFcimSSluo...Ic/s640/63.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-aCnr1un3Y0...k4/s640/64.jpg

Obelisk ze Tormentor 2012-10-13 22:42

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Originally Posted by xxnike629xx (Post 4395170)
Master Grade Aegis Review
http://gundamguy.blogspot.com/2012/1...review-by.html

Looks like you need to at least paint up the clear pieces for the forehead camera in clear blue or metallic blue.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-aCnr1un3Y0...k4/s640/64.jpg

Painting it would be nice. Still, I think I'll be fine with the metallic stickers. I'm good at applying them, especially on the visor/camera ;).

duotiga 2012-10-13 22:53

Painting of clear pieces is nothing new....in fact it looks better if you paint it

derrickmc63 2012-10-13 23:04

i like the fact that bandai doesn't color their clear parts. that way, if i wanted a clear piece to be a different color i can just paint it the color i want.

casval cehack 2012-10-13 23:26

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Originally Posted by duotiga (Post 4395140)

Bandai really did extend themselves on that articulated transforming leg frame design.

FalsePrime 2012-10-13 23:28

It will be amazing to see how Zeta's transforming frame gets reused in the future for other Transforming units like Wing.

casval cehack 2012-10-13 23:37

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Originally Posted by FalsePrime (Post 4395275)
It will be amazing to see how Zeta's transforming frame gets reused in the future for other Transforming units like Wing.

Incase, they'll need to minimize the frame first for Wing, with its height reach up only to around Zeta's chest. Plus it would probably be an entirely new frame given the different transformation.

Obelisk ze Tormentor 2012-10-13 23:44

I’m actually surprised with this articulation:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-M48-N1U26C...A/s1600/79.jpg

Given the design, I never thought it could pull it off. Now, I don’t have any complain for Aegis’ articulation. It’s superb!

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Originally Posted by FalsePrime (Post 4395275)
It will be amazing to see how Zeta's transforming frame gets reused in the future for other Transforming units like Wing.

Wing’s articulation is not really that intricate though. It’s basically only rotating its head & hips, adjusting the shoulders & legs a bit, storing the hands/manipulator inside the arms, and cover the head with the shield. It’s pretty simple that the HG can already do it. So, the RG being transformable is a given imo. But yeah, RG Wing would be nice ;).

duotiga 2012-10-13 23:46

I wonder how are they gonna pull off RG Force impulse or RG ZZ though...

Obelisk ze Tormentor 2012-10-13 23:52

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Originally Posted by duotiga (Post 4395307)
I wonder how are they gonna pull off RG Force impulse or RG ZZ though...

Docking-system is the next level of difficulty for RGs if Bandai really don't want to resort to part-swapping. While the docking in Impulse is pretty simple, the ones on ZZ & Victory is hella complex.

Znozzy 2012-10-14 01:48

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Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor (Post 4394490)
Imo itís simply because the HG 1/144 & 1/100 donít replicate SFís head well. The HG 1/60 got it good, then it was perfected by the MG & PG ;).

Indeed, i just find it funny :)

@MG Aegis

Oh god, i'd post a picture that explains what im feeling but i cant, it doesnt exist, god Aegis is looks good.

bio9205 2012-10-14 06:27

I just hope the MG Aegis doesn't have loose parts falling out all over the place with each pose.

Skye629 2012-10-14 15:08

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Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor (Post 4395314)
Docking-system is the next level of difficulty for RGs if Bandai really don't want to resort to part-swapping. While the docking in Impulse is pretty simple, the ones on ZZ & Victory is hella complex.

Well given what I have seen of the MG Victory.....shrinking it down is gonna be a disaster lol

Sworra 2012-10-14 15:59

MG Aegis has no backpack so i can see how the articulation is crazy when it comes to doing posing.. Its the sister mobile suit to the MG Age 1 Normal for articulation.

On another note I just started the MG Age 2 Normal.. Have to say the core is odd to build, different from the other MG's i've built.

casval cehack 2012-10-15 07:57

http://imageshack.us/a/img89/8411/byarlantcustom.jpg

Now, that's an action pose.:heh:

Butagami 2012-10-15 19:14

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Originally Posted by casval cehack (Post 4397431)

That is one Beastly box-art. Fits the suit :D

Skye629 2012-10-15 20:22

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Originally Posted by casval cehack (Post 4397431)

Ugh too many good kits coming out, probably gonna have to put this beast on hold until after I get the Rozen Zulu

bio9205 2012-10-16 05:41

I'm saving up for both the Byarlant Custom and the Rozen Zulu. I'm already prepared to give up on the Clanche Custom and AGE-3 Fortress :heh:

firefox 2012-10-16 06:38

I find most UC unicorn suits extremely ugly and uninteresting. Only Sinanju and Unicorn gundam itself are woth my attention. I have both as RD figures so no model kits of those.

I gonna go mental with clanche custom. I hope we still get that G-bouncer custom and the chronos.

Yesterday i received my Robot Damashii AGE-1 normal which i got out of a HLJ sale. What a great figure! So underestimated, the promo pictures (where he almost always stands bent forward) don't do it justice!

suiton629 2012-10-16 14:10

BOSS!

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-NiAo_9Hi3L...84618285_o.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-aIzcUr6cVf...0121011af2.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5l1ezytRFQ...Eg/s640/59.jpg

Skye629 2012-10-17 00:17

You know most of us (if not all of us) check Gunpla blogs everyday......posting these are uneccessary

Skye629 2012-10-17 00:21

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Originally Posted by firefox (Post 4398777)
I find most UC unicorn suits extremely ugly and uninteresting. Only Sinanju and Unicorn gundam itself are woth my attention. I have both as RD figures so no model kits of those.

I gonna go mental with clanche custom. I hope we still get that G-bouncer custom and the chronos.

Yesterday i received my Robot Damashii AGE-1 normal which i got out of a HLJ sale. What a great figure! So underestimated, the promo pictures (where he almost always stands bent forward) don't do it justice!

Unicorn designs are....ugly? Thats probably the first time in my life I have ever heard that lol, not disrespect, to each his own

Im with you on the Clanche Custom & Khronos >.> its a pretty easy remold of the Zeydra imo, the only problem I think which is holding them back are the AGE sales.....

Rising Dragon 2012-10-17 00:26

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Originally Posted by Skye629 (Post 4399980)
You know most of us (if not all of us) check Gunpla blogs everyday......posting these are uneccessary

I don't, so I appreciate it when people do post the images.

Kinda have to agree with firefox, I just can't find the vast majority of UC suits to be appealing. Some of them are, though.

Obelisk ze Tormentor 2012-10-17 00:46

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Originally Posted by Rising Dragon (Post 4399987)
Kinda have to agree with firefox, I just can't find the vast majority of UC suits to be appealing. Some of them are, though.

Yeah, for those who donít like the Zulus, GMs, Zeonís Marine Suits, Rezels, Jegans, Loto, Anksha, or Byalant will be pretty much left in the cold. I can understand the sentiment. Nothingís wrong with that.

firefox 2012-10-17 05:45

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Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor (Post 4400004)
Yeah, for those who donít like the Zulus, GMs, Zeonís Marine Suits, Rezels, Jegans, Loto, Anksha, or Byalant will be pretty much left in the cold. I can understand the sentiment. Nothingís wrong with that.

Left in teh cold???

There is more to gundam then UC! I got AGE 1/144 HG's and seed MG's that are fantastic and a MG tallgeese in januari :). I'm don't feel like left in the cold at the moment. I do feel that tehre is inconsistence. There are for instance too much designs, bandai should focus more a a suit and let it do it stuff for more then 1 episode.

I like some UC suits, i even ordered a 1/100 MG rezel (mainly because of the 50% discount ;) ). i'm even building a 1/100 MG Hi-Nu gundam!, even if it is inferior to the 1/200 HCM pro version of it...

Obelisk ze Tormentor 2012-10-17 05:55

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Originally Posted by firefox (Post 4400277)
Left in teh cold???

There is more to gundam then UC! I got AGE 1/144 HG's and seed MG's that are fantastic and a MG tallgeese in januari :). I'm don't feel like left in the cold at the moment. I do feel that tehre is inconsistence. There are for instance too much designs, bandai should focus more a a suit and let it do it stuff for more then 1 episode.

I like some UC suits, i even ordered a 1/100 MG rezel (mainly because of the 50% discount ;) ). i'm even building a 1/100 MG Hi-Nu gundam!, even if it is inferior to the 1/200 HCM pro version of it...

:confused:

You do realize that I was talking in the context of Gundam Unicorn, right? I wasnít talking about the whole UC Gunpla, let alone Gunpla in its entirety :heh:.

Zeydra 2012-10-17 07:32

On the subject of Unicorn designs I also fall in the area of finding a lot of them ugly. However I actually find that part of the appeal to me, that Byarlant Custom for example, just looks like an absolute brute (haven't seen episode 4 so I don't know yet if it was a brute). And that brutality makes for a appealing and interesting design to me.

That said the Byarlant is not on my purchase priority list.

suiton629 2012-10-17 09:27

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Originally Posted by Zeydra (Post 4400392)
On the subject of Unicorn designs I also fall in the area of finding a lot of them ugly. However I actually find that part of the appeal to me, that Byarlant Custom for example, just looks like an absolute brute (haven't seen episode 4 so I don't know yet if it was a brute). And that brutality makes for a appealing and interesting design to me.

That said the Byarlant is not on my purchase priority list.

I kinda know what you mean. I'm not a UC fan at all as you all know. But I have to admit that some of the designs are decent. But my love of Gundam 00 followed by Gundam Age/Gundam Wing to a certain degree makes me disregard (I will admit) other series. =P

Oh and..

http://inb4suiton.blogspot.com/2012/...elease_17.html
http://inb4suiton.blogspot.com/2012/...elease_17.html

bio9205 2012-10-17 19:14

For me the appealing thing about the UC suits is their detail, and some of them are really unique, like the Byarlant Custom.

Also, looking at the HG Full Granza - the armour looks like it's too big. It looked much sleeker in the show.

suiton629 2012-10-17 19:17

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Originally Posted by bio9205 (Post 4401184)
For me the appealing thing about the UC suits is their detail, and some of them are really unique, like the Byarlant Custom.

Also, looking at the HG Full Granza - the armour looks like it's too big. It looked much sleeker in the show.

Well, it is an early build, and it's also a HG. If we get it in MG, I would definitely expect that version to look sleek and streamlined. =)

Skye629 2012-10-17 21:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeydra (Post 4400392)
On the subject of Unicorn designs I also fall in the area of finding a lot of them ugly. However I actually find that part of the appeal to me, that Byarlant Custom for example, just looks like an absolute brute (haven't seen episode 4 so I don't know yet if it was a brute). And that brutality makes for a appealing and interesting design to me.

That said the Byarlant is not on my purchase priority list.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihBlGC561tk

If you dont mind watching scenes before watching the full thing

Znozzy 2012-10-17 22:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeydra (Post 4400392)
On the subject of Unicorn designs I also fall in the area of finding a lot of them ugly. However I actually find that part of the appeal to me, that Byarlant Custom for example, just looks like an absolute brute (haven't seen episode 4 so I don't know yet if it was a brute). And that brutality makes for a appealing and interesting design to me.

That said the Byarlant is not on my purchase priority list.

You should check out UC4 & 5, designs are ncie and the mechas dance around. Ep4 has superb grunt combat :)

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Originally Posted by bio9205 (Post 4401184)
For me the appealing thing about the UC suits is their detail, and some of them are really unique, like the Byarlant Custom.

Also, looking at the HG Full Granza - the armour looks like it's too big. It looked much sleeker in the show.

Thats what happens when you do the Obari workout.

it's a full armor, so honestly i doubt it'll look sleek at all in model form, It wasnt really sleek in the show eithr to be honest.

firefox 2012-10-19 03:45

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Originally Posted by Znozzy (Post 4401425)
You should check out UC4 & 5, designs are ncie and the mechas dance around. Ep4 has superb grunt combat :)



Thats what happens when you do the Obari workout.

it's a full armor, so honestly i doubt it'll look sleek at all in model form, It wasnt really sleek in the show eithr to be honest.

i'm more interested in the backpack then the actual armor. Armor will make you less sleek, see all other gundams with armor like Alex NT en duel assault shroud.

I received my RD Strike dagger today, in some area's it's a step back from the AGE-1 normal. Why Banday? Why do you have to mess everything up? Can't you just keep what works and add some hardpoints to fit weaposn on??????

Araxiel 2012-10-19 09:57

I kind of hope the full-armour Age-1 stays chunky like that. [I imagine it'll be parts over the top of a Normal rather than moulded-on armour, so hopefully so.]


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