Is Naruto worthy of the rank -----?
 

Is Naruto the rank Chuunin worthy?

Shikamaru became a genin after his preformance in the main matches.
He lost..didnt use genjutsu or taijutsu at all. He never even hit his opponent.
Shikamaru tactically outsmarted Temari. And he possesed "the most important attribute" for a chuunin. (Leadership)

Yet, became a chuunin.

We know the battles of Naruto during the Chuunin exam and main matches.

[Lets talk about Kiba's battle and compare it to Shikamaru's battle.]

IF you ask me that was a battle worthy to call Naruto...a chuunin (if you would compare that to Shikamaru)

1: He captured Akamaru very smart, and was able to bite Kiba (he caught Kiba totally offguard) Excellent timing and use of Kage bunshin+Henge No Jutsu

2: Used Henge to confuse Kiba & Akamaru by transforming into their forms. Right after he got hit..he changed into Akamaru.
Then not only he made Kiba attack Akamaru but Naruto was also able to hit Kiba and catch him again...offguard.

3: Then his finishing move which he saw from Sasuke...with a bit improvisation he made a very decent move.

Now if you ask me... IF Naruto fought like that in the main matches...he'd have a great chance of becoming a Chuunin. (Naruto's Leadership may be a flaw but i think the rest of his ability's are enough)

What do you guys think?

i think that naruto is an idiot =P

you got a point but it was not the finals so it doent affect who becomes chuunin.

Naruto fails as a leader, he's just not smart enough. His only qualities are his stamina and will to win; qualities for a fighter only. If Naruto was a Chuunin, he'd get his squad into countless fights that should have been avoided.

Johnny, The question lack a little bit of coherence and I was not understanding it.

The question should had read something like (if it is what you are asking) “Is Naruto worthy to be Ranked as a Chuning?” or “were the Selection of Chunin in the Chunin arc were Fair?” or did Naruto deserved to be Promoted to Chunin?"

Given the explanation of what Chunin is about, NO, At that time (or current) Naruto was not worthy of been a Chunin, sure Naruto came up with good tactics (even Fighting with Neeji), but that was not it, it was about Maturity, is about that Naruto fought for Himself, for the win, Shikamaru fought calculating as a plattoon leader.

No way, he is an idiot and can't lead.

I want another chuunin arc where he can use rasengan on konohamaru and his friends.

that makes it two of us! :D

Yes, sorry if i wasnt clear...but i ment the first: Is Naruto worthy to be Ranked as a Chuunin.

I myself voted Yes...and agree that his overall knowlegde is below that of an average Chuunin. If he would gain more knowlegde he'd be more carefull and would understand things easier.

you say he doesnt have the qualities but yet you want him promoted as a chuunin?
r u high or something.

this is what i hate in this forum. people love a character so much they dont care if he or she is dumb dead or something else.just because they love the character they make everything worthy for him/her.

I think definitely not. Shikamaru played with his opponent as if it were a game of chess. He considered possibilities, and found his best route to victory, as a leader should.

Everyone else however, specifically Naruto, just ran in and used brute force. They didn't plan ahead so much as improvise. They showed little or no leadership ability. Again, naruto more so than others. >.<

Naruto = failure at life. He should have died instead of Haku.

I'm still on the fence about this issue I definitely agree that pre-timeskip Naruto wasn't chuunin material, but..

Is this after timeskip we are talking? If so he is probably chuunin material, i would hope.

I think Naruto has the potential to be a leader, as you pointed out in his experience (pre-timeskip). He has a problem clearing his head, and using it however. Instead he charges in head first. This is a problem maturity can solve though, so i would assume after timeskip he can become a chuunin.

I highly doubt there is a difference between Lee's attitude/brains and Narutos attitude/brains. Both always has something to prove, and yet Lee is a Chunnin, so why can't Naruto be? The way Lee fights I would suspect he is just as likely to be as headstrong as Naruto. So yes, Naruto should be a chunnin.

If we are talking about the post-time skip:

If we talk about pre-time skip, the answer is "close, for me not yet, but in general it can go either way".

C'mon if Ino and Chouji are chuunin worthy Naruto def. is.

I think he's smart enough (now) to lead some genin and watch out for their safety.

Hard to say. I mean, he´s stronger than your average Chuunin by now and despite him not being the smartest guy alive he has shown the be good at improvising if the situation needs it. And if he´s indeed going to become Hokage it´s time for Naruto´s intelligence and leadership skills to start going higher too. But so far he has not shown anything that makes me say he´s fit to be a leader just yet. Leading people in battle than fighting alone.


I´m hoping that Naruto getting promoted too Chuunin will be a breakthrough for him. That with responsibility he will get his act together and become more like a real leader.

Well the problem is that post time skip

What kind of question is this...since it'd be up to the Producers and kishi himself if Naruto would be seen worth as chuunin.

Why do you say that?

I only said that he probably fails in the area of leadership...but his overall combat skills are enough for me to consider him a Chuunin.

I think his knowlegde is also something what he lacks... but Combat Skills, his techniques: Rasengan, Summoning, Kage Bunshin, Henge and his timing of jutsu's, his strategy (Is sometimes briljant)

I think he does have the quality's but still needs some improvements...if he improves in those area's (overall knowlegde, leadership, using advanced strategy's all the time) i may consider him even close of becoming a jounin.



This is a question and asking for other peoples opinion. I dont try to achieve anything...just like to hear some opinions...

He's only perfect Chuunin material in determination and the fact that he has a big advantage with the Kyuubi, but other than that...he sucks.

The Chuunin exam is different every time. And from how it looked when Naruto took it the decisions are weighed by each instructors, and each of these instructors look for certain things not always the same or different. If the exam was taken in the village of the hidden sand, of which lets just say for an example look more into power. Then Naruto would certainly pass.

In my opinion, Naruto has grown the most out of anyone. And far from normal thinking. Naruto has shown a lot of good qualities in fights. Yes he is loud, butt-headed for lack of a better word, stubborn, and immature. But when it gets down to fighting he has shown strategies that are comparable to Shikamaru.

For Naruto fighting seems to be an instinct.

In terms of power he is above Chuunin. In terms of abilities in a fight he is above Chuunin. In skills, he is above even some Jounin. So yes I think he is worth the title. The only opposing factor is the way he acts normally, but in a fight, aside from the time he fought Kiba he is not like that at all.

He may not be the smartest person in Konoha. But he is not the worst.

Naruto is more than smart enough to be a Chuunin. What he lacks is discipline and self-control. He's a loose cannon and until he gets that worked out he'll be a danger to his subordinates and himself if he's ever put in a leadership position.

I think Naruto should have been made a Chuunin in the first exam. Naruto was the one that actually showed the most important quality for leadership, which is the ability to inspire others. Shikamaru showed the most important quality for a strategist. However, I think that the judges still were biased against Naruto. I think the still disliked him and thought of him as a monster fox. Showing a few moves and beating Neji wouldn't have been enough to change those long standing views. So, I think Naruto was the reason that more genins didn't get promoted. If they promoted anyone else, then they wouldn't have had anything else to stand on besides their prejudice for not promoting Naruto. It seemed a lot like they suddenly came up with this reason why Shikamaru qualified and noone else did.

the chuunin selection exam was not completed, theoreticaly none of the participants should have been promoted tp chuunin because the juges did not meet afterwards to analyse the performances of the participants because of the attack on konoha.

Shikamaru was an exeption because he made a super good impression on the juges that they did not need to discuss it further and it was clear to them that he was chuunin worthy.

had the chuunin selection exam been completed, you would have shurely had seen other ninja being promoted


anyways that is only my opinion

Like Shino, for example. ^^

I agree 110%!

Well, Naruto's fighting skill is chuunin level at the least. And i don't think the way they explained people become chuunin is really just. I mean, if someone as weak as Sakura or Ino pretimeskip coulda made it to the finals, what the hell should someone like Neji or Naruto do but go and kick their asses? Temari and Shikamaru aren't hand to hand fighters so they use other strategies. Hell, Gai is a hand to hand fighter and his ass is a jounin. Not special jounin, but a jounin. Who are the cream of the crop. I'm sure he just beat peoples asses to the top.

Well they were unfortunate...

Quoted for Truth.

The Kyuubi in this case is just Naruto's tool. Like Sharingan or Byakugan i agree that his determination is excellent but at the same time he isnt scared to help his teammates either.

You cant say that from some genius guys ([Chuunin Exam] Forest of Death, [Invasion Arc] Forest).

Naruto for example (vs Itachi) admitted that he was scared...but he tried everything to help Sasuke and to kill/attack Itachi...even though he was scared.

At the end of his Battle with Sasuke...i'd say he has what it takes.

Pre-timeskip definitely not, and its obvious. Only shika become chuunin because he displayed exceptional use of tactics, and at such a young age. Does this mean the others had no grasp on tactics? No. Shikamaru just excelled at it, to the point where they found him more than worthy.

:stupid:ummm... then what would the series be called?sasgay comes to the rescue?:p I didn't think so.:nono:

I think what ultimately made them promote Shikamaru after that one battle alone was not his strategic skill (though that certainly could be a significant factor), but because he wisely chose to surrender even after he seemed to have gained the upper hand in the match. This showed he knows his own limit and has the potential of being a good leader who would think of the safety of the people under his command.

The way Neji and Naruto fought with all their might and thinking only of winning is good only for certain circumstances. And they're lucky they have the power to do so. But not everyone is blessed in such a way, and being a Chuunin means you have to take that into account when going on a mission. Especially when you also have to look out for your team members.

And as for inspiring people, that's fine and all that, but to blindly go into battle just because you're inspired would only get you killed pointlessly. Of course, there're times when you have no choice but to fight. So it's all about knowing when to fight and when to retreat and fight another day.

So for now, I feel Naruto is close but not up to chuunin level yet. Besides, there's nothing wrong with being a genin, is there? Naruto is still young.

naruto will NEVER!!! become chunin for the fact that if you listen to the judges during the exam you will hear them call him the nine tails kid.

that being said none of the judges see naruto as a human being they only see the fox and that keeps them from judging him fairly, even if he has the best qualifications the judges will never allow the kyuubi to be a real ninja for fear of the fox gaining power and attacking the village again

I voted no because Naruto doesn't have the leadership and the brains to analyse the general situation/surroundings.

Power wise, Naruto won't lose to anyway of the jounins. All he have to do is to let out 3 tails and he'll do better than Kakashi.

I voted Yes, but he (seriously) lacks knowlegde,

yet, he will become a Hokage

Well...to me Naruto should be a Chuunin.
It's true he's not leader material, but IF he was a leader he would not let anyone on his team die. Also if you think about it, if Naruto can take out members of Atasuki and be able to master different high level justu's than he should be a chuunin.

Haha! I totally agree.

I agree...if he was a "member of a Chuunin squad" not a leader of the squad. Then they would do just fine.

His determination, his will, his ambition, his character would make him a very good shinobi. He'd die for Konoha...or his companions.

I voted "no".

Given the explanation what makes you a chuunin, naruto isn't worth it. As a chuunin you have to lead a squad.
And I can see naruto being quite smart in a fight himself 1vs1. But considering all his teammates and the enemy; I just think that this is to much for him :eyespin:

And as a chuunin you have to check your environment and use it for your advantage... shikamaru did so, naruto didn't.

Naruto is quite the fighter and can come up with very good ideas in a fight 1vs1. But this is just for himself.
But he is not a leader. A leader must know the strength of the teammates and the enemy, analyze it and use it for his advantage.
I don't think naruto is clever enough for this and will never be.

btw: if the series follows a logical way, naruto will never become hokage but an hermit like jiraya