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justavisitor 2011-02-13 10:07

to me, detailing is fine, but at least majority part of the model should have the correct color

This is because I don't have to tools and I don't have time to paint them...then it's an eye sore to see the model with all the wrong color XD

but then, I know it's just me I guess :heh:

LoweGear 2011-02-13 12:06

That still doesn't logically make a model an "improper" model kit. In the first place, Bandai is the exception and not the rule for model kits, having models with parts-color integration and snap-fit kits made to look good out of the box - a large percentage of all model kits in the world come in two-tone plastic colors and require glue and lots of paint to look good. A "proper" model kit is a kit that can be assembled to resemble the design it is made to be a model of.

The limitations of the model kit you mentioned is a byproduct of the things you state you lack - tools and time. However, this is a shortcoming of your circumstance, rather than a shortcoming with the kit itself. The HG Aile Strike, with paint and touch up, will look like the Aile Strike design when completed with the features of the HG technologies at the time, and hence is already a "proper" model kit in itself. Admittedly, the HG Aile Strike isn't up to the standard of some of the HGUC kits in the same time period when it comes to a few features (for instance the hands), but at the time the HG Aile Strike and others were the epitome of Bandai's HG technology at the time. If we were to have this discussion back then, then we would be wishing for designs to be made in the same technological and engineering vein as the HG Aile Strike, much like how we wish for designs to be made to Real Grade standards now.

JC... 2011-02-13 12:58

That's why Modelers who become Gunpla-modelers are usually more skilled than people who went straight into gunpla. Gunpla out of the box takes little skill, not glue or anything is needed, so it's a walk in the park for experienced modelers.

In fact, you get articulation in Gunpla, that makes it even more 'proper', other model kits don't always have movable propellers or wheels let alone fully articulated joints.

justavisitor 2011-02-13 13:52

@LoweGear and JC...
True enough I guess...I forget that when compared to other models that need glue and massive paint, HG is already an outstanding series

hmm...that makes me think whether I should buy a RG strike kit lol...I am afraid that my limited skill would just waste the kit...basically I only know snap-fit...how hard it is to build a RG kit??

SonicSP 2011-02-13 14:19

I personally rather have them as complete as possible since it takes less work to finish them. Coloring can be fun admittingly but I really want to have a working articulate model ASAP since I get the most enjoyment from the completed product as opposed to the work even if the end product is more satisfying if you put more work into it.( time constraints mostly, don't have as much time as i used to) Still, the HG kits of recent years are good enough since most of the colors are already done.

Butagami 2011-02-13 16:19

I also like how Bandai kits are quite goodlooking out-of-box. I'm not feeling ready mentally for painting and such,and also lack materials and workspace atm. Having said that, I also noticed recently the progress Bandai has made with their kits. I have two 1/100 scale kits, a Wing Zero (TV Version) and a Dynames (which by the way is Awesome, only problem I have with it is that the red pieces on the V-fin and the small green parts on the cheeks are stickers, they slide when I reveal the Forehead Camera >:^( ,and that the connector of the Rifle sticks out like a sore thumb when he has it hanging on his shoulder. )
Zero is riddled with panellines all over, but not all of them are really deep enough so that the marker stays on. They also fade at some points.
Dynames has few panellines, but the ones he has are well-made and easy to do. You can also feel the difference in plastic quality. zero feels "cheap" somehow.

I also compared their main weapons. Yet again, great difference. Zero's Twin Buster Rifle has a decent amount of panellines, but appears rather dull, especially when you split it in half.
Meanwhile, Dynames Sniperrifle has a buttload of details spread across it, and not just some lines. When you look at it from the side, it almost looks functional.
And somehow, The sniperrifle is bigger than the TBR... The TBR is a bit chunkier, but the barrels are smaller and it doesn't look like it could blow up a colony.

Overal, it looks like Bandai really learned some new stuff in the way of materials and detailing. I'm really looking forward to how kits will look 10 years from now.

Just so you know, While I've really fallen in love with the Dynames, Zero was and is one of my favorites (Wing was my gateway series for both Gundam and Anime in General, so it has Special value :P). The 1/100 kit just doesn't do it justice. Just like some others on this thread, I'm hoping for a decent HGAC line. And definitely a MG Dynames, the suit just screams for it.

MoonLightShadows 2011-02-13 21:27

I got the MG Infinite Justice to replace my old 1/100 that i painted most of it red and noticed the MG box had a 30th anniversary stamp on it. and had an extra 'F' plate with clear parts :D


CsrFSeiei 2011-02-15 11:09

Yes the 30th campaing is very sweet! i have the RX-78 ver 2.0 with clear parts also :D!
Gundam kits out-of the box are cool but if you go fordward just a little for example begin with top coat flat or gloss it gives a total new look only by spraying some coat! later you can try with other kits painting with spray cans and then Air brush :D!

JC... 2011-02-15 11:57

Hand painting works too. It's a bit harder to get a good result, but it's fun and easy.

Just use some watered down paint and light strokes to prevent visible brush strokes.

Kuroi Hadou 2011-02-15 12:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by JC... (Post 3488586)
Hand painting works too. It's a bit harder to get a good result, but it's fun and easy.

Just use some watered down paint and light strokes to prevent visible brush strokes.

And don't forget to have rubbing alcohol close by.;)

CsrFSeiei 2011-02-15 15:54

But Spray cans are easy to use, also use some masking tape for masking!

SonicSP 2011-02-15 18:24

I'm really bad at spraycans, can't control the pressure and speed. Not as much colors as the ones that comes in the small bottles too and can't mix colors.(unless you take it out of the can) I just invested in the cheapest airbrush I could find and bought the Mr Color paints in the small bottles. I do like to use the clear ones though on occasion when I'm lazy to handpaint them.

Now that I leave overseas I can't do that anymore though (or for that matter, anything gunpla related), but I used to a few months ago.

Butagami 2011-02-15 18:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by SonicSP (Post 3489151)
I'm really bad at spraycans, can't control the pressure and speed. Not as much colors as the ones that comes in the small bottles too and can't mix colors.(unless you take it out of the can) I just invested in the cheapest airbrush I could find and bought the Mr Color paints in the small bottles. I do like to use the clear ones though on occasion when I'm lazy to handpaint them.

Now that I leave overseas I can't do that anymore though (or for that matter, anything gunpla related), but I used to a few months ago.

Sucks for you that you can't get your gunpla cravings satisfied. I hope it's not permanent :)

SonicSP 2011-02-15 19:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Butagami (Post 3489167)
Sucks for you that you can't get your gunpla cravings satisfied. I hope it's not permanent :)

It's not, I brought some of my gunpla with me but I can't work on any new ones. I'm going to be here for awhile though since I'm studying here. The goodwill is greatly appreciated however.

Maybe, I'll start ordering online and buying my painting stuff online too but I'd rather not start in the near future. Coming from a country where you have gunpla stores shelved with gunplas and paint, it's going to be a bit different though.




Speaking of which I have a query. You all are familiar with the standard Bandai-seperately sold 1/100 stands right? (the ones that are also compatble with 1/144s)

Using the "stick" configuration, has anyone had any problems fitting their HG 00 Raiser or HG 00 Qan(T) on it? Mine will ALWAYS be loose for some reason with this type of stand, it just doesnt fit. My other HG 1/144s almost have no problem with them though, and the standard sole seperate HG 1/144 stand with the stick config fits the 00 Raiser/Qan(T) perfectly but I can't get it to work with the darn 1/100 stand for some reason. Which is sad, because I like the 1/100 stand because it allows you to post them at a higher altitude. Anybody else had this problem before?

It's not just unique to a particular physical unit either, I have two 00 Raisers and a Quanta and I have trouble fitting them with all three. Nor is it limited to a specific stand, I have a lot of these Bandai 1/100 model stands (15 give or take) and all of them give me the same issue.

Kuroi Hadou 2011-02-15 21:48

Found this on DeviantART:


SonicSP 2011-02-16 00:38

That Harute reaaaaaally remind me a bit of Arche.

Araxiel 2011-02-16 04:48

Sweet. Red is really flattering on Harute.

CsrFSeiei 2011-02-16 09:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by SonicSP (Post 3489151)
Now that I leave overseas I can't do that anymore though (or for that matter, anything gunpla related), but I used to a few months ago.

" I Feel you Man" (As DOTA Shaman :P)

I live in Peru (yeah quite far!) and here there is only ONE store that sells Gunpla, and is overpriced!!! Really overpriced, what i'm doing for gunpla is buying some from japanese stores and then my family send me the gunpla in a bag, is much much cheaper than buying it here ( in my blog there are some pictures).

Also when a friend goes to USA i ask him if he could buy me some, or just bring it here.

BTW spray cans are useless here because they sell only the paint cans not for modelling. I have a cheap airbrush (: and i import the Mr. Color painT!

Elo the Blue 2011-02-16 11:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by SonicSP (Post 3489473)
That Harute reaaaaaally remind me a bit of Arche.

I actually thought it was an Arche initially.

JC... 2011-02-16 11:22

I'm going to be buying an Arche soon, and possibly converting it into an Arche Drei type unit.

DarkWarrior 2011-02-16 12:25

That Harute looks like it belongs in A-Laws. :heh: Very nice indeed.

Kuroi Hadou 2011-02-16 13:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkWarrior (Post 3490088)
That Harute looks like it belongs in A-Laws. :heh: Very nice indeed.

If the A-Laws had Harute, CB wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes. :heh:

velocity7 2011-02-16 14:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kuroi Hadou (Post 3490168)
If the A-Laws had Harute, CB wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes. :heh:

A bit unfair though, considering the Harute is two years newer compared to what CB had during 2312. :heh:

Butagami 2011-02-16 17:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by SonicSP (Post 3489473)
That Harute reaaaaaally remind me a bit of Arche.

And now imagine it being piloted by Doublujah and Ali :D

But that thing looks seriously awesome.

GN0010 Nosferatu 2011-02-17 00:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kuroi Hadou (Post 3489346)
Found this on DeviantART:


Not a good color for Harute.

pumpkins 2011-02-17 03:31

you guys can take a look at the other 00 movie kits. i kinda like the colour scheme of the rapheal.
http://www.youtube.com/user/JunoUnit
http://www.flickr.com/photos/juno_uno/sets/

ashtaron 2011-02-17 19:51

MG 1/100 Deathscythe Hell Custom Early Review
 
See here: http://blog.goo.ne.jp/yshobbyblog/e/...4bf09122dd632b

SonicSP 2011-02-18 19:10

Oh ya, I sort of know that guy from another forum, I always like his color mods.

yeahitschris 2011-02-18 23:32

looking at buying an exia ignition mode but cant tell the difference from 1st release and 2nd release.. is there any difference? do you get special parts for getting the 1st release?

DarkWarrior 2011-02-18 23:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by yeahitschris (Post 3494056)
looking at buying an exia ignition mode but cant tell the difference from 1st release and 2nd release.. is there any difference? do you get special parts for getting the 1st release?

The 1st edition release had a "premium" price of 5000 yen. Later the price increased to 6500 yen.. so the only difference is the price.

Appel 2011-02-19 17:25

i finally got them all^^
http://www.abload.de/img/foto06679pud.jpg
im happy that i finally have a proper OO now! i have a HG one but when i cracked open the box the clear part for the head jewel was missing >_>

im somewhat pleased with the 1/100 OO raiser. for a no grade kit its pretty impressive! its just kinda sad that it cant really support the O raisers sidebinders all that well... id to help out with superglue a little :P
but now that i look at this kit i dont know anymore if bandai actually needs to release a MG version of it... it has a few flaws here and there and the articulation is a little limited of course because it has no inner frame. but it still is an awesome kit! a master grade would only improve a few things like making the joints a little sturdier or adding a couple of movable parts. but thats it! plus, an inner frame might mess with the weight distribution too much. we all know how well that worked for the PG version XP
also, this kit costs 4000 yen already. thats a TON for a no grade kit, many MG kits cost less than that. a master grade OO raiser would be HELLA expensive...

yeahitschris 2011-02-19 21:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkWarrior (Post 3494079)
The 1st edition release had a "premium" price of 5000 yen. Later the price increased to 6500 yen.. so the only difference is the price.

ah, okay thanks thanks

CsrFSeiei 2011-02-20 03:09

Nice 00 Family there :D!

I will build my Qant MG next! i will prime sand everything :D!

Appel 2011-02-20 07:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by CsrFSeiei (Post 3495932)
Nice 00 Family there :D!

I will build my Qant MG next! i will prime sand everything :D!

aint it?^^ my biggest fear was that the OO raiser would stand out because its just a no grade model. but it really doesnt! you have to look very closely to see that it is no master grade! i dont think someone who has no clue about gunpla could tell the difference without actually taking the model in hand.

and have fun with OO[Q]^^ i sure had a ton of fun with it, its a great model! some armor parts like to pop off here and there and because of the shield its tilting to the left a little but once you get it in the right pose that wont be an issue anymore!

i have also built the HG brave commander yesterday. i love that lil guy!^^ he is standing at his rightful place next to the OO[Q] now!

CsrFSeiei 2011-02-20 22:18

Wow nice!

I will build my 00 Qan[T] MG next!, i have a backlog of

Qan[T], V-Dash, Unicorn (OVA), Red Frame, Sinanju! (all of them MG) also a Ahead SMultron (its not the big thing but it was a gift :) ).

Well i want the Brave Commander to! it looks amazing! also it cames with a stand right?
I have a few gundams now you can see them in my blog, i will post work in progress and eerything, but now i will try to do it the right way (my blog is in my firm eiko-gunpla.blogspot.com).

-Sand
-Prime
-Paint
-Top coat
-Decals and panelining
-Top coat again
- :)!


Also the 00 Raise No grade it looks very good, it dosent have all the small details and innerframe but it looks good to! :)!
my blog is in my firm.

MakubeX2 2011-02-21 06:56

A word of advise about the MG Deathscythe Hell here. It would seem that initial reports from those who got an early release has it that there is a slight dent of a defect on the face in the first batch of release as indicated below :-

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/1...8234054487.jpg

So those who seek perfection on their collection might want to wait a while more to see if the problem will be rectified in the second press of this kit.

And one more thing....

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/1861/1298128534592.jpg

The construct of the Active Cloak is made up completely of HG Quality. So be gentle while handling it.

JC... 2011-02-21 08:52

If anyone seeks perfection on their kit, they'd sure as hell be able to fix that defect...

CsrFSeiei 2011-02-21 09:02

Maybe if you prime your pieces, that mistake should be cover right?

Appel 2011-02-21 09:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by CsrFSeiei (Post 3497251)
Wow nice!

I will build my 00 Qan[T] MG next!, i have a backlog of

Qan[T], V-Dash, Unicorn (OVA), Red Frame, Sinanju! (all of them MG) also a Ahead SMultron (its not the big thing but it was a gift :) ).

Well i want the Brave Commander to! it looks amazing! also it cames with a stand right?
I have a few gundams now you can see them in my blog, i will post work in progress and eerything, but now i will try to do it the right way (my blog is in my firm eiko-gunpla.blogspot.com).

-Sand
-Prime
-Paint
-Top coat
-Decals and panelining
-Top coat again
- :)!


Also the 00 Raise No grade it looks very good, it dosent have all the small details and innerframe but it looks good to! :)!
my blog is in my firm.

you will have fun with those kits that you listed there^^ especially the unicorn and the sinanju were a ton of fun to build!

i dont color my models. im just too lazy and i have no real talent for colors :P the only thing i do is some minor panellining and on my OO kits i painted the clear parts because they dont look very good with the stickers...

and yeah, for a no grade model the OO raiser is really cool!


oh and thanks for the heads up for the deathscythe hell. i wanted to wait a little, anyway before i buy it^^ but my reason is that i want to wait for reviews of it since the other MG deathscythe is falling apart all the damn time... i want to be prepared for that when i order the deathscythe hell :P

StrikeFreedomV2 2011-02-21 11:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Appel (Post 3495250)
i finally got them all^^
http://www.abload.de/img/foto06679pud.jpg
im happy that i finally have a proper OO now! i have a HG one but when i cracked open the box the clear part for the head jewel was missing >_>

im somewhat pleased with the 1/100 OO raiser. for a no grade kit its pretty impressive! its just kinda sad that it cant really support the O raisers sidebinders all that well... id to help out with superglue a little :P
but now that i look at this kit i dont know anymore if bandai actually needs to release a MG version of it... it has a few flaws here and there and the articulation is a little limited of course because it has no inner frame. but it still is an awesome kit! a master grade would only improve a few things like making the joints a little sturdier or adding a couple of movable parts. but thats it! plus, an inner frame might mess with the weight distribution too much. we all know how well that worked for the PG version XP
also, this kit costs 4000 yen already. thats a TON for a no grade kit, many MG kits cost less than that. a master grade OO raiser would be HELLA expensive...

Nice work you did there :)

Where you able to re-create the foreheadjuwel of the HG 00 Gundam?

Post no. 20000, woot!


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