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Kairin 2012-10-03 23:35

Little Busters - Anime Spoilers & Speculation (for experienced Little Busters only)
 
This thread is for the experienced Little Busters viewer (i.e. those of you who are familiar with potentially all the light novels / manga), its purpose is to allow free discussion of theories and speculation over the Little Busters anime series, it therefore will contain unmarked spoilers. If you are not familiar with the Little Busters visual novel, then do not read this thread unless you want to be spoiled (use the Speculation & Theories thread instead).

Since posters are expected to be familiar with the visual novels, there is no real need for spoiler tags, but feel free to include them if you so wish.

Adding a Spoiler tag:
Just highlight your spoiler and click the button found on the "Quick Reply" and "Reply to Thread" forms.
Make sure that you include a title that clearly identifies the specific source of the spoiler!

Finally, please remain on-topic and do not use this thread if it's just discussion about the current or previous anime episodes. Also remember that this isn't a light novel / manga discussion thread, if you do want to discuss the light novel then please use the existing Little Busters Game thread.

Aspirety 2012-10-06 05:47

This may be difficult, but I think some distinction between Little Busters players and Little Busters EX players might be necessary. The current english translation doesn't include EX, so most people who have played the game and want to compare it to the Anime won't necessarily want to be spoiled about the EX routes.

I don't really have a solution, just identifying the problem.

sona-nyl 2012-10-06 06:13

Spoiler tags for EX maybe?

erneiz_hyde 2012-10-06 08:28

Indeed, personally I would like that, though I'm not forcing. I played LB! about 5 years ago and yet I STILL haven't finished EX, despite my ability in doing so if I want to. Mostly because I was traumatized with that horrible bgm when the H-scenes played out...sigh :heh:

Anyways, currently my biggest anticipation is how or if Kyousuke's BBS posts will somehow make it into the anime. Probably the short skits during next ep previews? Aaaand, the million dollars question: how will they handle the repetitions?

Aspirety 2012-10-06 09:02

Pretty sure the BBS posts have been confirmed to be included in some form.
As for the repetitions... Only time will tell.

sona-nyl 2012-10-06 09:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by erneiz_hyde (Post 4383960)
Mostly because I was traumatized with that horrible bgm when the H-scenes played out...sigh :heh:

You don't like sha la la la la ecstacy? :upset:

ronelm2000 2012-10-06 09:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Usami_Haru (Post 4384019)
You don't like sha la la la la ecstacy? :upset:

That BGM was just simply..... you can say I got turned off by it.:heh:

OPN 2012-10-06 09:42

Watching the op...im kinda scared they might cram refrain in the last episode and use the normal ending with the true ending squeezed in as a OVA ala persona four the animation. But clannads op had ushio so maybe im just overreacting...

Shinguji 2012-10-06 10:19

When you say true ending versus normal ending, are you talking about Riki proposing to Rin versus not proposing to her?

ronelm2000 2012-10-06 10:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by OPN (Post 4384063)
Watching the op...im kinda scared they might cram refrain in the last episode and use the normal ending with the true ending squeezed in as a OVA ala persona four the animation. But clannads op had ushio so maybe im just overreacting...

Based on that too, I can easily conclude that...

After Komari's Arc, we'll have Mio's Arc next.

OPN 2012-10-06 10:23

No when i say normal ending i mean
Spoiler for Major little busters spoilers:

@ronelm yeah that seems about right. I think they will go komari > mio > haruka > kurugaya > kud > rin2 > refrain but theres a 50% chance they might just do kud then kurugaya.

Arturia Polaris 2012-10-06 10:24

All I want to know is if we'll have the "kick the can" Where the Natsume brothers save the day tuned to "Heroic Battle"

Ahh... epic.

Arty

Shinguji 2012-10-06 10:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by OPN (Post 4384117)
No when i say normal ending i mean
Spoiler for Major little busters spoilers:

Got it.
I hope that they include the true ending, since it'd feel unfinished if they just left it with
Spoiler for Refrain spoilers:

As far as an OVA goes, I'd rather that they make it about the Little Busters' trip to the beach at the end, or on an EX route or two.

ronelm2000 2012-10-06 10:30

With all honestly, I really hope they don't plan to finish everything in 2-cour. That would just be cruel. But... how could it end though... I'm curious.

OPN 2012-10-06 10:32

Im 99.99% sure theres going to be a ova since each BD/dvd volume will have 3 episodes each and since 9 have been soliticated there needs to be a episode 27 to fill the final BDs episode amount. And i heard that a OVA was mentioned either on the radio show or the pre screening of episode 1. Though whether its the true refrain ending or the beach remains to be seen. That is if they plan to do everything in two cours.

Free 2012-10-06 11:45

I'd prefer they don't pick any ending. LB has plenty of stuff to fill 26 or 12 episodes. We can leave the teary stuff for season two, and Saya's stuff for season three.

Aspirety 2012-10-06 12:46

It just occurred to me. I wonder how they plan on handling...
Spoiler for Mio's Route Spoilers:

Ringil 2012-10-06 14:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shinguji (Post 4384124)
Got it.
I hope that they include the true ending, since it'd feel unfinished if they just left it with
Spoiler for Refrain spoilers:

As far as an OVA goes, I'd rather that they make it about the Little Busters' trip to the beach at the end, or on an EX route or two.

I thought the story was better without that "true" ending...

Spoiler:

Tyabann 2012-10-06 14:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aspirety (Post 4384292)
so maybe they'll abandon that detail?

Yeah, why not abandon every detail that doesn't work well in an anime? Why bother adapting anything properly?
This is going to sell regardless of how good or bad it is, so why should the studio put in any effort at all?

Ceral 2012-10-06 14:19

Nice atmosphere in the ED, just realized it's the morning of the last...

Also looks like they're doing Sasami's route, as there are key visuals from her route on the litbus homepage.
Spoiler for Sasamis route:

Arturia Polaris 2012-10-06 17:21

Anyone noticed in the ED that Brosuke is sitting there waiting at a van rental?

Nice detail :P

ARty

Ceral 2012-10-06 17:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arturia Polaris (Post 4384699)
Anyone noticed in the ED that Brosuke is sitting there waiting at a van rental?

Nice detail :P

ARty

Yea, I didn't even notice the whole going to the beach thing until I watched it a second time. The ED credits are basically about the same thing as the game's ED credits :D.

There's also a little Kurugaya tease at 19:27. Blatant Mio tease at 19:37. Were there any other teasers for the other heroines?

Arturia Polaris 2012-10-06 17:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ceral (Post 4384709)
Yea, I didn't even notice the whole going to the beach thing until I watched it a second time. The ED credits are basically about the same thing as the game's ED credits :D.

There's also a little Kurugaya tease at 19:27. Blatant Mio tease at 19:37. Were there any other teasers for the other heroines?

OOooooh I had missed the piano there!

Nice find!!!

Arty

Ceral 2012-10-06 18:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arturia Polaris (Post 4384725)
OOooooh I had missed the piano there!

Nice find!!!

Arty

Ooohuhhuu, fans of past Kyoani-key adaptations will be familiar with seeing this easter egg. 9:45 with Kurugaya hugging Kud... what's that on the table!

erneiz_hyde 2012-10-06 18:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aspirety (Post 4384292)
It just occurred to me. I wonder how they plan on handling...
Spoiler for Mio's Route Spoilers:

Since you used spoiler tags, I'll use it as well
Spoiler for answer to spoiler:

Linkark07 2012-10-06 19:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arturia Polaris (Post 4384120)
All I want to know is if we'll have the "kick the can" Where the Natsume brothers save the day tuned to "Heroic Battle"

Ahh... epic.

Arty

Haruchin saved the day to Riki, Masato and the Natsume brothers.

BTW, I want to see the part in which Kurugaya forces Riki to crossdress. Dunno but after watching the same scene in the 4 koma I'm intrigued into how J.C. Staff wil animate that... Unless they prefer to go with Riki staying with Kyosuke, Masato and Kengo.

Arturia Polaris 2012-10-06 23:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linkark07 (Post 4384888)
Haruchin saved the day to Riki, Masato and the Natsume brothers.

BTW, I want to see the part in which Kurugaya forces Riki to crossdress. Dunno but after watching the same scene in the 4 koma I'm intrigued into how J.C. Staff wil animate that... Unless they prefer to go with Riki staying with Kyosuke, Masato and Kengo.

Yeah I should have said... ALMOST saved the day.

Arty

Aspirety 2012-10-06 23:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by erneiz_hyde (Post 4384864)
Since you used spoiler tags, I'll use it as well
Spoiler for answer to spoiler:

I only bring it up because in the OP,
Spoiler for Mio Route:

Hoticehunter 2012-10-07 00:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aspirety (Post 4384292)
It just occurred to me. I wonder how they plan on handling...
Spoiler for Mio's Route Spoilers:

A) Are spoiler tags (Except for maybe EX/ME stuff since that doesn't have an English translation yet) necessary? The title of the thread is Anime Spoilers after all >.>

B) I think it would actually be neat if they had a scene where a really astute viewer could see, "whoa, she didn't have a shadow in that shot!" and then when they get to that revelation in her route then they could be "oh, it wasn't just them being lazy and forgetting, it was actually an important detail." Similar to the way the very first frames (the drops making the waves across the screen) are actually important and not just fluff. When I did Mio's route I actually went back and looked through the CGs trying to find a CG where it would have been apparent that she didn't have a shadow, but they hid that "trait" of hers pretty well.

C) How the hell are they going to incorporate Kurugaya's route into the story? Or, I guess, not so much her route, but resolving her route and going back to normalcy? Her route is probably the most important one for telling you that something is terribly, terribly wrong with the world, so it's going to be important to have that in the anime, but they can't really go from having "groundhog's day" back to normal. Or, I suppose they could just go "oh, Riki was having a dream", but that would so lame (though, surprisingly fitting considering what's actually happening).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aspirety (Post 4385303)
I only bring it up because in the OP,
Spoiler for Mio Route:

That she does. Specifically at 9:12 when they show her in the OP. A little disappointing actually. Having her be shadowless there would be great foreshadowing imo.

Arturia Polaris 2012-10-07 00:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoticehunter (Post 4385363)
A) Are spoiler tags (Except for maybe EX/ME stuff since that doesn't have an English translation yet) necessary? The title of the thread is Anime Spoilers after all >.>

B) I think it would actually be neat if they had a scene where a really astute viewer could see, "whoa, she didn't have a shadow in that shot!" and then when they get to that revelation in her route then they could be "oh, it wasn't just them being lazy and forgetting, it was actually an important detail." Similar to the way the very first frames (the drops making the waves across the screen) are actually important and not just fluff. When I did Mio's route I actually went back and looked through the CGs trying to find a CG where it would have been apparent that she didn't have a shadow, but they hid that "trait" of hers pretty well.

C) How the hell are they going to incorporate Kurugaya's route into the story? Or, I guess, not so much her route, but resolving her route and going back to normalcy? Her route is probably the most important one for telling you that something is terribly, terribly wrong with the world, so it's going to be important to have that in the anime, but they can't really go from having "groundhog's day" back to normal. Or, I suppose they could just go "oh, Riki was having a dream", but that would so lame (though, surprisingly fitting considering what's actually happening).

Regarding C... i can only speculate because it will be heavily dependent on the actul length of the show.

And the possibility of a refrain only season....


Arty

Aspirety 2012-10-07 00:50

I'm hoping they do it Higurashi style. In other words, you get to see the entirety of a route, and then the next episode it's back to the common route like it never happened. Only later will it become apparent that all the routes are connected.
In other words, the common route will serve as the central hub for the story. The routes will branch off early at different points in the common route, and then come back to the common route, continuuing where they left off. Something like that could work.

Hoticehunter 2012-10-07 01:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ceral (Post 4384413)
Nice atmosphere in the ED, just realized it's the morning of the last...

Also looks like they're doing Sasami's route, as there are key visuals from her route on the litbus homepage.
Spoiler for Sasamis route:

Shoot, if they're doing EX routes, then I may not want to watch this until my Japanese is good enough to read LB in Japanese, because let's face it, I'm going to know Japanese before EX get's translated, even if I'm still a couple years from being "proficient." /sigh.

Tyabann 2012-10-07 01:48

Mio's clothes still cast a shadow, which is why she's able to get away with hiding her condition in the first place. I'm not bothering to watch the OP again to check, but as long as her head and hands aren't casting a shadow it should be fine.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoticehunter (Post 4385363)
I think it would actually be neat if they had a scene where a really astute viewer could see, "whoa, she didn't have a shadow in that shot!" and then when they get to that revelation in her route then they could be "oh, it wasn't just them being lazy and forgetting, it was actually an important detail."

There was actually an unfortunately-maligned anime earlier this year which did just that.

Hoticehunter 2012-10-07 01:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon (Post 4385426)
Mio's clothes still cast a shadow, which is why she's able to get away with hiding her condition in the first place. I'm not bothering to watch the OP again to check, but as long as her head and hands aren't casting a shadow it should be fine.

There was actually an unfortunately-maligned anime earlier this year which did just that.

This will actually be my first time following an anime as it's released and keeping up with "internet opinion" so I don't know what anime you're referring too unfortunately :p

Balzac 2012-10-07 02:00

Tossing ideas around, I offer this thought.

Spoiler for the heck of it:

Xacual 2012-10-07 02:14

Next episode should be introductions for the rest of the girls and Komari joining the group I'd expect?

Aspirety 2012-10-07 02:50

I suspect multiple baseball matches. Here in the first episode Kyousuke stated that he has alreadypplanned a date for their first match. I can't remember exactly how this went in the game, but do you think this implies multiple matches?

Tyabann 2012-10-07 02:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aspirety (Post 4385494)
I suspect multiple baseball matches. Here in the first episode Kyousuke stated that he has alreadypplanned a date for their first match. I can't remember exactly how this went in the game, but do you think this implies multiple matches?

They apparently continue to practice baseball (offscreen) during the character routes.

Aspirety 2012-10-07 03:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon (Post 4385499)
They apparently continue to practice baseball (offscreen) during the character routes.

Then animating them would work. They keep losing until one day they win.

Balzac 2012-10-07 03:06

Haha, I haven't watched, but my friend mentioned to me one part of the episode that just aired that was telling: Kyousuke apparently summons a baseball out of thin air. If I remember correctly, there was a description in the game of that, but my friend keeps hotly insisting it's some sort of subtle foreshadowing. Is this true, how was it shown in the animation?


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