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RRW 2013-12-09 03:30

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Originally Posted by ZeroXSEED (Post 4937614)
Depends on which MG we're talking about

Latest MG (From 00 and beyond) are horrendously difficult, if I may say.

let say

Gundam Ver 3.0

Aurelis 2013-12-09 04:15

It'll be easy to fix but it won't look nice but then again, how else are you gonna get the experience and refine your skills :p

Gunpla is much, much easier with the proper tools though.

ZeroXSEED 2013-12-09 04:40

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Originally Posted by RRW (Post 4937658)
let say

Gundam Ver 3.0

Ask Stratospear

He just build (or currently building) one

StratoSpear 2013-12-09 05:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by RRW (Post 4937658)
let say

Gundam Ver 3.0

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeroXSEED (Post 4937721)
Ask Stratospear

He just build (or currently building) one

Currently building. Procrastinating. :heh:

3.0 has LOTSA parts. Color separation pieces and whatnot, like a gajillion of small pieces for the torso alone.

BUT.

I will not rule out a beginner for as long as there's the instructions manual. The only thing that would be a downer is the lack of patience, you need a great deal of patience. ;)

firefox 2013-12-09 05:52

I'm excited that we will soon also get a normal Robot damashii deathscythe. He is my favorite gundam from the show and i have absolutely no love for teh MG katoki version. Anybody know yet if he will be a normal release or a exclusive, we hope nomal off course.

My RD deathscythe Hell is underway with a load of other figures (RD leo fight type, sandrock and extreme gundam, etc...) and should arrive end of the week.

I'm gonna promote RD a bit.

So in cold style suiton tradition here is my RD want list :D

- Zaku warrior (all variants)
- zaku phantom (all variants)
- saviour
- red frame
- blue frame
- green frame
- gold frame
- mirage frame
- Impulse (all variants)
- gaia
- abyss
- chaos
- ginn (all variants)
- cgue (all variants)
- G-exes
- G- bouncer
- strike noir


That's a nice start for 2014 :D

ZeroXSEED 2013-12-09 05:54

Man, Star Build Strike had really GREAT show/toy discrepancy

I might have a heart attack if they make HG GuAIZ as part of HGCE

RRW 2013-12-09 07:44

but really what is teh difference between 2.0 and 3.0?

for 1.0 and 2.0. 2.0 have inner skeleton right?

StratoSpear 2013-12-09 08:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by RRW (Post 4937814)
but really what is teh difference between 2.0 and 3.0?

for 1.0 and 2.0. 2.0 have inner skeleton right?

This is the 2.0:
http://www.yahobby.com/products2/gd_...r.2.0_30_b.jpg

And this is the 3.0:
http://www.gundammodelkits.com/wp-co...0724tome66.jpg

One of the major differences is that the 2.0 faithfully replicates anime-accurate proportions and you will also notice the lack of details that's immediately apparent on the 3.0.

The 3.0 replicates the realistic details of the 1/144 Real Grade variation. While the OYW Ver. still beats the 3.0 in sheer details, the 3.0 makes up for more range of movement, particularly the PG-type hands with individually-poseable fingers.

And with details comes with more parts. Just look at the legs and the arms.

StrikeFreedomV2 2013-12-09 08:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by RRW (Post 4937814)
but really what is teh difference between 2.0 and 3.0?

for 1.0 and 2.0. 2.0 have inner skeleton right?

Yeah, every MG has a inner skeleton, but the 1.0's is pretty simple by todays standards and not as detailed. I haven't build the 2.0 or 3.0, but the difference lies mostl in the complexity of the inner frame and the design of the armor and the proportions. The 2.0 is very anime-like while the 3.0 looks more modernized and has the 18 meter statue in japan as a base for its look.

Edit: ninja'd by StratoSpear :heh:

Shinobi2013 2013-12-09 09:07

MG RX-78 1.0 doesn't have much inner frame, only few parts with hatch-able armor that shows off the fake inner detail, that's it. I grow up with the design itself as seen in Char's Counterattack game on PS1(which also features the storyline of One Year War as flashbacks) so I still like the version 1.0.

Skye629 2013-12-09 14:21

I will also throw in that IMO, the OYW version still have one of the best overall looks too, plus its cheaper than the 2.0 and 3.0 by a good $15 at least if money is a concern


Ok totally getting the HG Star Build Strike now after seeing its debut, but Ill be switching some of the stuff from the Full Package, the new gun does not appeal to me at all

Edit: Also going to have to get the Universal Booster for the effect parts

Aurelis 2013-12-09 22:10

Slightly off-topic but is anyone else annoyed by GG's "Comment visible after approval" moderation? I mean, I understand it reduces the SEED hate, the trolls, spams and hateful comments but urgh, it kinda killed the comments section. And not surprisingly, there's still "GG fold up cause of watermark" nonsense. Just had to vent it out as I kinda wanna know both sides of the supporter/hater of certain categories like Gunpla releases and model reviews.

Bringing it back on-topic. Broke the beam saber holder again and glued that thing.

http://i.imgur.com/I9vc93d.jpg

Skye629 2013-12-09 22:31

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Originally Posted by Aurelis (Post 4938604)
Slightly off-topic but is anyone else annoyed by GG's "Comment visible after approval" moderation? I mean, I understand it reduces the SEED hate, the trolls, spams and hateful comments but urgh, it kinda killed the comments section. And not surprisingly, there's still "GG fold up cause of watermark" nonsense. Just had to vent it out as I kinda wanna know both sides of the supporter/hater of certain categories like Gunpla releases and model reviews.

Bringing it back on-topic. Broke the beam saber holder again and glued that thing.

http://i.imgur.com/I9vc93d.jpg

I dont mind the comments thing, too filled with no life's than actual people who know how to make proper comments

As for the GP-01, thats the RG? How did you break it? Im planning to get the kit so I sorta want to know. Was is just structurally weak or did you break it through accident?

ZeroXSEED 2013-12-09 22:35

Question from the noob

How to color the goddamned head vulcan in HG?

Skye629 2013-12-09 22:36

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Originally Posted by ZeroXSEED (Post 4938635)
Question from the noob

How to color the goddamned head vulcan in HG?

What kit?

I just use Gundam Marker paint pens and the lining ones for the black part/barrel, works good enough

ZeroXSEED 2013-12-09 22:38

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Originally Posted by Skye629 (Post 4938639)
I just use Gundam Marker paint pens and the lining ones for the black part/barrel, works good enough

Unfortunately, my gray pen is, well, large as typical

Guess I either experiment with brush or use pencil for it.

Skye629 2013-12-09 22:39

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Originally Posted by ZeroXSEED (Post 4938641)
Unfortunately, my gray pen is, well, large as typical

Guess I either experiment with brush or use pencil for it.

Is your pen a paint pen? If so you can try to get some of the paint out by pushing down on the tip and holding to get some of the paint out then go in with a fine tip brush

Aurelis 2013-12-09 22:41

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Originally Posted by Skye629 (Post 4938631)
I dont mind the comments thing, too filled with no life's than actual people who know how to make proper comments

As for the GP-01, thats the RG? How did you break it? Im planning to get the kit so I sorta want to know. Was is just structurally weak or did you break it through accident?

Yes, it's the RG GP01. When I panel line wash using Tamiya's enamel Panel Line Accent, I don't top coat the base plastic with gloss coat :p

Thus, all parts that are of thin plastic layer, like the beam saber's female peg and the circular gear cover for the knee, will become brittle and crack. It is sad but at least they gave you a total of 4 beam sabers, 2 for mounting on core fighter/backpack and 2 with male pegs for the hands. [I also broke the same part for RG Freedom, Justice, GP01 FB, RX-78-2]

But don't let that bother you, it's a great kit so far. I'm liking the details on this otherwise small unit. The corefighter's fun to build and combine with the torso and the details aren't too overwhelming. Plus, it's very stable and solid, unlike RG Zeta. One thing though, the torso may not feel as "tightly fit" due to the core fighter.

And for colouring head vulcans in HG, I choose the lazy way of dabbing the marker on it, and once dried, I scrape the excess lightly using a pen knife. There's sanding-like marking left as a result, which I cover using matte topcoat. But of course, that is a very lazy way to do it instead of using a toothpick and painting it or something :heh:

Shinobi2013 2013-12-10 00:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeroXSEED (Post 4938635)
Question from the noob

How to color the goddamned head vulcan in HG?

A very very thin brush will do.

Anyway my custom HGUC RX-78 MSVs:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...psb56830d5.jpg

Aurelis 2013-12-10 00:29

Oooh, that's amazing. Makes me wanna see all of your collection, like the Wing series ones.

Do you use plaplate/putty for all the features or adopt parts from other kits like the old 1/144 kits?

Shinobi2013 2013-12-10 00:56

The Full Armor and Red Warrior are scratchbuilts while the Perfect Gundam's armor came from the 80s 1/144 kit(except the chest part).

ZeroXSEED 2013-12-11 00:53

Random question for anyone with large collection of gunpla

What is the most durable HG kit according to your opinion?

StrikeFreedomV2 2013-12-11 00:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeroXSEED (Post 4939718)
Random question for anyone with large collection of gunpla

What is the most durable HG kit according to your opinion?

In my experience, most of them are pretty sturdy^^ HG 00 Gundam for example, and also the HGUC GP01's.

duotiga 2013-12-11 00:58

HGUC GP02 . Super sturdy kit

Shinobi2013 2013-12-11 02:05

Most of the older HGs are more sturdy than the newer ones IMO except The Build Strike which is also sturdy

Skye629 2013-12-11 04:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeroXSEED (Post 4939718)
Random question for anyone with large collection of gunpla

What is the most durable HG kit according to your opinion?

A HG filled with hardened putty and with metal joints?

Lol I kid

firefox 2013-12-11 05:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeroXSEED (Post 4939718)
Random question for anyone with large collection of gunpla

What is the most durable HG kit according to your opinion?

In my pretty large experience, the most durable models are:

1/100 HG seed/seed destiny/ 00 gundam
1/144 HG AGE

off all the kits i've build the best 1/144 Hg was the seed 1/144 HG mobile Ginn, super durable.



General rules:
- mass production suits are more durable then gundams
- the more complex a gundam (transformation, super gimmicks, etc) the less durable it gets.

ZeroXSEED 2013-12-11 05:42

Thanks guys

I take it Gundam usually spindlier because too many articulations

Flag and Enact are just special :p

(So it's GP02 and GINN, hmmm)

StrikeFreedomV2 2013-12-11 09:10

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Originally Posted by ZeroXSEED (Post 4939912)
Thanks guys

I take it Gundam usually spindlier because too many articulations

Flag and Enact are just special :p

(So it's GP02 and GINN, hmmm)

Regarding the GP02: One mine, the arms tend to fall off, and the holds have difficulties holding the beam sabers. Its been a while since I build mine, but it doesn't have many polycaps, if amy at all. The arms at least don't use them

ZeroXSEED 2013-12-11 10:02

Derpy derp :eyespin:

I always though how they can scrathbuilt parts so well, apparently you can get lots of parts that's near impossible to scratch from Wave.

I'd like to have those verniers, but no one sold them locally* :(

*at reasonable price, 3x cost is certainly NOT reasonable

Aurelis 2013-12-11 20:45

From my own experience with 1/144 kits and not moving them around much, I'll have to give the sturdiest award to HGUC Sazabi. The massive unit doesn't have fancy equipments and can hold its own weight well. The-O is a close second but it's antenna keeps falling off, so that's a minus point. Followed closely by Psyco Gundam.

The rest are comprised of 18m-class Gundams, like NT-1 Alex, AGE-1 Normal and Zabanya.

The most likely to topple when you cough is my Arche Gundam, Nu HWS and Ex-S.

The most common reason for the flimsy kits are ankles which are too flexible, small feet, big backpacks and top heavy designs.

My GP02 MLRS has weak fingers and will always likely drop the shield. Otherwise, it is definitely a sturdy kit.

Zero, have you tried ordering online? I'd imagine the light weigh means lesser shipping fees, especially if you purchase in bulk. Or you could buy those cheap pens with metal caps and modify them into verniers :heh:

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ZeroXSEED 2013-12-11 21:09

Those are sold online (but still within my country). Seriously, 9-10$ for each set are nothing but robbery, SHIPPING FEES NOT INCLUDED.

Even GGinfinite is more reasonable, but the shipping alone probably outstrip the entire purchase. I think I'll see if HLJ is even better.

Thanks for the reply

Providenceangle 2013-12-11 21:32

Anyone own the MG F91? I'm seriously thinking of buying it and modding it. I just wanna know what the general feel is of the build. Maybe how the plastic is? I read online reviews, but they never seem to mention the things I notice, when I build kits.

firefox 2013-12-12 02:43

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Originally Posted by Providenceangle (Post 4940653)
Anyone own the MG F91? I'm seriously thinking of buying it and modding it. I just wanna know what the general feel is of the build. Maybe how the plastic is? I read online reviews, but they never seem to mention the things I notice, when I build kits.

I own and have build one.

upside: It's a great looking kit, really well posable, nice weapons options and comes with a base (only the white one).

Downside: small, so also small pieces. This results in alot of painting to do if you don't want to put on all the decals. It's base is quite unique but requires alot of paint.

Overall quite sturdy and good kit, but not for a novice.

Skye629 2013-12-12 04:37

http://www.hobbywave.com/modeling_su...er-gm302p.html

Anyone here know exactly what this is? Hobbywave just newly stocked them

Im assuming from the name that its sort of a wash pen (probably put tip into line and press to release paint)

duotiga 2013-12-12 07:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Providenceangle (Post 4940653)
Anyone own the MG F91? I'm seriously thinking of buying it and modding it. I just wanna know what the general feel is of the build. Maybe how the plastic is? I read online reviews, but they never seem to mention the things I notice, when I build kits.

Quote:

Originally Posted by firefox (Post 4940859)
I own and have build one.

upside: It's a great looking kit, really well posable, nice weapons options and comes with a base (only the white one).

Downside: small, so also small pieces. This results in alot of painting to do if you don't want to put on all the decals. It's base is quite unique but requires alot of paint.

Overall quite sturdy and good kit, but not for a novice.

I have also

+ve: great looking kit, tons of pose to do (as firefox mentioned), stable also

-ve: parts can be quite brittle (or snap) if do not snap properly esp VBSR railguns & the leg thighs(clip over 2 parts) , need to reinforce the weapons gripping .
painting needed for some parts

Providenceangle 2013-12-12 07:41

Thanks. I appreciate the feedback. Sadly I don't think I can get the white original one. If the white is brittle the blue one is going to be even worse....

It's a great looking kit! Looking at the HG just made me want the MG.

Edit: HLJ is listing for a Feb restock. The site I order from usually does a similar deal. I'll check them then. Worse case I'll get it from HLJ.... >.>

Sworra 2013-12-12 19:32

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Originally Posted by Providenceangle (Post 4940985)
Thanks. I appreciate the feedback. Sadly I don't think I can get the white original one. If the white is brittle the blue one is going to be even worse....

It's a great looking kit! Looking at the HG just made me want the MG.

Edit: HLJ is listing for a Feb restock. The site I order from usually does a similar deal. I'll check them then. Worse case I'll get it from HLJ.... >.>

Gundam Planet has them in stock.. They are from New Jersey, so if your on the east coast shipping won't be that much..

http://www.gundamplanet.com/mg-f-91-gundam-f91.html

Cheers! :)

ZeroXSEED 2013-12-12 20:45

Anyone have opinion on HG Talgeese III?

I've heard HGAC have.. umm, problems.

EDIT: nevermind, it's all white. :(

Providenceangle 2013-12-12 21:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sworra (Post 4941675)
Gundam Planet has them in stock.. They are from New Jersey, so if your on the east coast shipping won't be that much..

http://www.gundamplanet.com/mg-f-91-gundam-f91.html

Cheers! :)

I appreciate the suggestion but, I'll stick with my preferred site. I've grown found of not paying duty on $300+ orders. I know I'll end up getting the Sazabi ver.ka and some other kits... Might as well just wait on it.

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Originally Posted by ZeroXSEED (Post 4941742)
Anyone have opinion on HG Talgeese III?

I've heard HGAC have.. umm, problems.

EDIT: nevermind, it's all white. :(

It's an ok kit. It needs a lot of work to look anime accurate... Would be nice to get a new HGAC of the Talgeese I! ;)


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