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Knight-of-Gold 2013-07-02 18:24

I dont think that is an announcement of a kit. Thats just a custom made by that woman to try and make gunpla appealing to other people, like fans of whatever band she is in.

Obelisk ze Tormentor 2013-07-02 19:23

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Originally Posted by Knight-of-Gold (Post 4745358)
I dont think that is an announcement of a kit. Thats just a custom made by that woman to try and make gunpla appealing to other people, like fans of whatever band she is in.

Well, "that woman" was also holding some actual new kits with "that old man":

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So yeah...

~Destiny~ 2013-07-02 21:59

The strike rouge is a custom built by her. The other two are actual releases.

Obelisk ze Tormentor 2013-07-02 22:22

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Originally Posted by ~Destiny~ (Post 4745516)
The strike rouge is a custom built by her. The other two are actual releases.

Thank God (if it's true).

Skye629 2013-07-03 04:04

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Originally Posted by ~Destiny~ (Post 4745516)
The strike rouge is a custom built by her. The other two are actual releases.

Call me blind but....those other two kits I believe are the same....one standard Builder Strike and a custom colored one.........

BTW can anyone tell whether the Builder Strike is using a new HG mould for the Strike parts? Or are they the same as the old one?

Zeydra 2013-07-03 04:51

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Originally Posted by Skye629 (Post 4745235)
^^^this^^^

its also in gundam colors too!!!


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-SKN0FolN90.../s1600/1z1.jpg

Wow that box art is amazing. Is it just me or are they getting better and better with the box art? I'm not a huge fan of the rx78, but I absolutely love what they've done with that cover.

LoweGear 2013-07-03 05:01

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Originally Posted by Skye629 (Post 4745757)
BTW can anyone tell whether the Builder Strike is using a new HG mould for the Strike parts? Or are they the same as the old one?

New mould I believe. The original HG Strike didn't have a ball-articulated segmented waist for one, whereas the Build Strike does, not to mention the Strike parts on it have different proportions to the old HG version.

casval cehack 2013-07-03 05:19

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Originally Posted by LoweGear (Post 4744757)
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-S307azDvyK.../teaser_05.jpg

HGAC WING GUNDAM

HGAW GUNDAM DOUBLE X

I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:eek::eek:

14 damn years I've been waiting since I became a Gundam fan, my dreams have now come true! :T_T:

Indeed, dream come true for lead gundam collectors.

Knight-of-Gold 2013-07-03 10:21

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Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor (Post 4745408)
Well, "that woman" was also holding some actual new kits with "that old man":

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So yeah...

She is holding one production colour of the Build Strike, one in her custom colours and a strike rouge kitbash that is also hers.
So yeah, 2 personal custom kits like many celebrities have already done in the past, none of which are public releases.

Obelisk ze Tormentor 2013-07-03 11:57

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Originally Posted by Knight-of-Gold (Post 4746005)
She is holding one production colour of the Build Strike, one in her custom colours and a strike rouge kitbash that is also hers.
So yeah, 2 personal custom kits like many celebrities have already done in the past, none of which are public releases.

Yep, glad to hear it. I cringed the first time I see that kit anyway.

DuelGundam2099 2013-07-03 15:16

*pokes head in here*

So.... Since this thread is about model discussion and whatnot I figured I might as well ask: What is the best (or cheapest) way someone with very little model building experience get into gunpla building? Is their a guide picture/chart that would help out with that? Other miscellaneous information worth mentioning?

Skye629 2013-07-03 15:32

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Originally Posted by DuelGundam2099 (Post 4746190)
*pokes head in here*

So.... Since this thread is about model discussion and whatnot I figured I might as well ask: What is the best (or cheapest) way someone with very little model building experience get into gunpla building? Is their a guide picture/chart that would help out with that? Other miscellaneous information worth mentioning?

Welcome new modeler

You can start with almost any grade of kit, provided you have:

1. Patience
2. Enough common sense to figure out the manual instructions by comparing the images to parts while assembling, even though its all in Japanese
3. Money, the most natural limiting factor for all of us lol

Heres a basic video tutorial:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TSoH7yhrB0


At the cheapest, you probably want to go with the HG line of kits, which can range from $15-35 (not factoring shipping), best selection too

Tools mainly depend on what you want to get out of your kit, I suggest you AT LEAST have the following:

1. Hobby Knife with changeable/replaceable blades
2. Q-tips
3. Toothpicks
4. Color markers, like the ones you would find on a grade school kid, they are the best "budget" nubmark hiders
5. Nippers/Sprue cutters, can range from $8-25 but are probably the most important tool to have
6. Gundam lining marker/pen, for "panel lining", some good art pens like "Sakura" works too

Theres alot more you can do/buy past this but these are the basics

DuelGundam2099 2013-07-03 16:54

Quote:

You can start with almost any grade of kit, provided you have:

1. Patience
2. Enough common sense to figure out the manual instructions by comparing the images to parts while assembling, even though its all in Japanese
3. Money, the most natural limiting factor for all of us lol
I have that.
Quote:

have the following:

1. Hobby Knife with changeable/replaceable blades
2. Q-tips
3. Toothpicks
4. Color markers, like the ones you would find on a grade school kid, they are the best "budget" nubmark hiders
5. Nippers/Sprue cutters, can range from $8-25 but are probably the most important tool to have
6. Gundam lining marker/pen, for "panel lining", some good art pens like "Sakura" works too
I have q-tips and toothpicks, although nothing else beyond that. Judging by the video it looks like nippers are the only thing needed for part building, the hobby knife just looks like it scraps off residue and art mistakes and I have no intention at the moment for panel lining or painting or markers etc.:heh: I will check to see if I have nippers or not though.

Any particular under 30 bucks high grades you guys recommend? Preferably ones with bare minimal accessories (I am one of those guys that likes keeping everything together.... dorky I know). I do have a couple of mobile suit favorites lists for ideas.

Obelisk ze Tormentor 2013-07-03 18:07

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Originally Posted by DuelGundam2099 (Post 4746258)
Any particular under 30 bucks high grades you guys recommend? Preferably ones with bare minimal accessories (I am one of those guys that likes keeping everything together.... dorky I know). I do have a couple of mobile suit favorites lists for ideas.

Well, if you like simple lead-Gundams, you can try these:

HG RX-79 [G] Gundam Ground type
HG Gundam EZ-8
HG Gundam X
HG Gundam X Divider
HG ZZ Gundam
HG God Gundam
HG AGE-1 Normal (or choose the alternate forms)
HG AGE-2 Normal (or choose the alternate forms)
HG AGE-3 Normal (or choose the alternate forms)
HG AGE FX (or choose the Burst version)
HG Gundam Exia
HG Gundam Exia Repair II
HG 00 Gundam (there’s also HG 00 Raiser if you want it)
HG 00 Qan[T]
HG Destiny Gundam

Or you can wait for the new release of HG Wing, Double X, & Victory if you don’t like the above.

I won't recommend HGs from SEED line (except Destiny and few others) coz they generally have terrible proportion (dwarfish-looking) and bad articulation. On the other hand, the old Wing EW HGs have decent proportion but a bit flimsy after a straight-build.

DuelGundam2099 2013-07-03 18:18

X-Divider, ZZ, Qan [T], and to a much smaller extent Age-3 are the only leads in that list that seem appealing. I was thinking in favor of a non-gundam mobile suit/armor.
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Or you can wait for the new release of HG Wing, Double X, & Victory if you don’t like the above.
Double X is in my top 4 favorite gundams....
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I won't recommend HGs from SEED line (except Destiny and few others) coz they generally have terrible proportion (dwarfish-looking) and bad articulation. On the other hand, the old Wing EW HGs have decent proportion but a bit flimsy after a straight-build.
Hmm, I see. Tell you what, I'll post my top 30 favorite gundams and non-gundam suits and see if there are any suits with models you (or anyone else reading this) would recommend. Trust me, the lists themselves are much bigger, I just gave 30 for basic variety; that and I know a few of them might not have model kits.:heh: I know Madnug has none for certain.

Spoiler:

Spoiler:


A bit off topic, but are there any Age suits that have not been released in HG form?

maknaedik 2013-07-03 19:53

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Originally Posted by DuelGundam2099 (Post 4746308)

A bit off topic, but are there any Age suits that have not been released in HG form?

1. Adele Cannon
2. The last Vagan MS in arc 2, the one that's supposed to assassinate the prime minister.
3. The golem type Vagan MS in the desert.
4. The amphibious MS that Zeheart used in 3rd season.
4. The giant MS that the big guy from Vagan was using.
5. 2 Zaku types, brown and violet, from season 1.
6. The construction type MS.

Those are the ones who appeared in the anime, as for the Manga, there are a lot of course.

Sorry if I forgot their names XD

Obelisk ze Tormentor 2013-07-03 20:00

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Originally Posted by DuelGundam2099 (Post 4746308)
Hmm, I see. Tell you what, I'll post my top 30 favorite gundams and non-gundam suits and see if there are any suits with models you (or anyone else reading this) would recommend. Trust me, the lists themselves are much bigger, I just gave 30 for basic variety; that and I know a few of them might not have model kits.:heh: I know Madnug has none for certain.

From the top of my head.
Spoiler for List 1:
Spoiler for List 2:

Note: It’s common knowledge that HG (and below-scale kits) need a bit painting in some areas (you can do it with markers. Gundam-marker is recommended). For some particular HGs, you need a lot painting.

DuelGundam2099 2013-07-03 21:02

Wow, thank you Obelisk! This helps narrow it down for me! I am a tad dumbstruck that Dijeh and Ashtaron HC have no kit (how is that possible?) but oh well.

justavisitor 2013-07-03 22:05

if you don't have the coloring tool, then do not buy hg from seed and seed-d, as they need a lot of coloring.

Generally speaking, most of the models from hguc have great match of color so you don't have to paint much and hguc (or w, x, and g unverise) seems to be getting better and better. If you like double x as you mentioned in the earlier post, then I suggest you to wait a little bit and let double x be your first gundam model. First model will always be a bit more special and you will like your double x even more :D

I personally would prefer a model that doesn't have too much weight in the back otherwise the model can't stand in the ground. (unfortunately double x is one of those...) you can always buy a stand, but it will cost too much space if you plan to buy more of the models.

lastly, this is not selling commercial, as I do not relate to that site at all, but dalong. net always has nice review on every single model. It even shows what the model looks like without painting and label. It's in korean tho, but I just look at the pic so I don't care what it says XD

Hope it helps

DuelGundam2099 2013-07-03 22:37

It did help, thanks Just! Of course now I'm so overwhelmed I don't know where to begin.:eyespin: DECISIONS

Obelisk ze Tormentor 2013-07-04 01:32

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Originally Posted by DuelGundam2099 (Post 4746430)
Wow, thank you Obelisk! This helps narrow it down for me!

Correction & additional info:
  • Psycho Gundam Mk.II does have a kit but it’s not really recommended. It’s an old 1/300 no-grade kit.
  • Gouf Custom has a MG which is more detailed but less fun than the HG due to the less free articulation and the MG’s arm will slowly droop when you pose the Gouf aiming with its machine-gun.
  • Please note that for transformable MSs in HG 1/144, the transformation usually means part-swapping, not an actual transformation. You can only get actual transformation from the kits of HG 1/100 and up (RG, MG, PG, etc)

helois 2013-07-04 02:33

Hi Duel!

when i jumped in the "gunpla word" i didn't know almost nothing about tools,in my childhood i builded with my father couple of model like an elicopter,a military plan and the Millennium Falcon..
and it was with the glue on each piece.. we did a little weathering.. and then hooked ad the roof with fishing wire..

the first model was the Kyrios beacause i was watching Gundam 00 and i,onestly, bought the box without opening untill i came home..

i hadn't sidecutter,so i use a normal cutter.. i was a little painfull with the sound of cutting plastic ( XD )but the result was.. *search the right word*
..pleasing!

i had in the shelf a tiny Kyrios all my own..
..then there was Xmass and a "childish move" of my parents to made me good at university ( >good results --> >money for gunplas).. and so on..

i suggest to start with few HG1/144 before step up the MG,also RG and so on, beacause when i bought the MG and i spend three weeks building it(in that time with sidecutter)once it was complete, i felt in love...

i always liked robots,at 4-5 years old i watched at tv Transformers.. and all sort of robots,with the MG Strike Noir it was a "rainbow" throught the ages that i could have,at the age of 23 :heh: , a proper robot in my hands..
(in the years asked for robots and my parents bought me LEGO for my creativeness..)

Skye629 2013-07-04 04:46

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Originally Posted by DuelGundam2099 (Post 4746258)
I have that.
I have q-tips and toothpicks, although nothing else beyond that. Judging by the video it looks like nippers are the only thing needed for part building, the hobby knife just looks like it scraps off residue and art mistakes and I have no intention at the moment for panel lining or painting or markers etc.:heh: I will check to see if I have nippers or not though.

I will HIGHLY STRESS that AT LEAST you should panel line, its not hard and the pens are cheap, can easily get a few from online and they will last you for awhile. OR if you dont want to buy online etc you can go to a local art store and buy the :Sakura" pens I was talking about, they come in various tip sizes and types (suggest normal tips size .20). They can be cleaned up just as easily as a Gundam panel line marker and in some cases are better as they have various sizes.

OR if you are waaaay lazy you can use a pencil (while nice, it depends whether you like the metallic sheen from the lead, and its slightly harder to clean) or ballpoint pen (tends to be larger than the panel lines)

Panel lining makes a world of difference

http://dalong.net/review/00/0105/th/s_0105_02.jpg
http://dalong.net/review/00/0105/th/s_0105_00a.jpg

Pulled from Dalong, notice the difference? All from simply running a pen along some pre-existing grooves (with some clean up with q-tips and rubbing alcohol)

Quote:

Originally Posted by maknaedik (Post 4746376)
1. Adele Cannon
2. The last Vagan MS in arc 2, the one that's supposed to assassinate the prime minister.
3. The golem type Vagan MS in the desert.
4. The amphibious MS that Zeheart used in 3rd season.
4. The giant MS that the big guy from Vagan was using.
5. 2 Zaku types, brown and violet, from season 1.
6. The construction type MS.

Dear god how did you forget the Kronos..........AND the Genoace Custom

Another is the Adele Mk.II, SID (Lol ok this dont count), Vegan Gear (spelling intentional lol)

maknaedik 2013-07-04 05:23

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Originally Posted by Skye629 (Post 4746689)
Dear god how did you forget the Kronos..........AND the Genoace Custom

I'm such a....... :((((((((((((((

Zeydra 2013-07-04 11:02

I wonder why bandai never made the zeydra's brother suit the kronos, I would have loved one of those personally.

Anyhow, just built the age-fx high grade, and all I can say is wow, it looks stunning with that display stand they included. My pose is, to be completely honest, pretty bad, but thanks to the stand it looks incredible anyway! Whatever problems this thing had in the show I would say it's a first rate kit, and bandai really did their best to make it a great one. :)

Skye629 2013-07-04 16:22

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Originally Posted by Zeydra (Post 4746917)
I wonder why bandai never made the zeydra's brother suit the kronos, I would have loved one of those personally.

Anyhow, just built the age-fx high grade, and all I can say is wow, it looks stunning with that display stand they included. My pose is, to be completely honest, pretty bad, but thanks to the stand it looks incredible anyway! Whatever problems this thing had in the show I would say it's a first rate kit, and bandai really did their best to make it a great one. :)

Im halfway through mine, been working on it on and off

Biggest complaint is the lack of beam sabers for the arms.....and to make it worse it requires either a modded 1/144 00/AGE flat beam OR a 1/100 flat beam found in some of the NGs/MGs of 00/AGE

Chiu_fan 2013-07-05 00:20

Finally had some time(despite being short) to continue with this kit again.
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Zeydra 2013-07-05 03:08

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Originally Posted by Skye629 (Post 4747142)
Im halfway through mine, been working on it on and off

Biggest complaint is the lack of beam sabers for the arms.....and to make it worse it requires either a modded 1/144 00/AGE flat beam OR a 1/100 flat beam found in some of the NGs/MGs of 00/AGE

I only just noticed it didn't have beam sabers now that you mentioned it :heh:

But yeah, it is kinda bizarre they didn't just include one or two like they usually do. I don't mind it all that personally however as I'm not really a beam saber kinda guy, but it is a strange omission from a kit that basically included everything else.

casval cehack 2013-07-05 07:58

http://i.imgur.com/Qz73ebA.jpg
Classic boxart.

Skye629 2013-07-05 21:10

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Originally Posted by Zeydra (Post 4747686)
I only just noticed it didn't have beam sabers now that you mentioned it :heh:

But yeah, it is kinda bizarre they didn't just include one or two like they usually do. I don't mind it all that personally however as I'm not really a beam saber kinda guy, but it is a strange omission from a kit that basically included everything else.

They halfway made up for it in the FX Burst, since they threw blue ones in (ones that fit properly too), but I still find it unforgivable that they did not include any in the normal release (wanted an angelic pose with the bits on the clear stand and beams on both arms)


Hey where is the BEST place to order online exclusives if you live in the US? Im finding the new MOE red Legilis to be extremely tempting

Knight-of-Gold 2013-07-06 15:15

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Originally Posted by Skye629 (Post 4748666)
They halfway made up for it in the FX Burst, since they threw blue ones in (ones that fit properly too), but I still find it unforgivable that they did not include any in the normal release (wanted an angelic pose with the bits on the clear stand and beams on both arms)


Hey where is the BEST place to order online exclusives if you live in the US? Im finding the new MOE red Legilis to be extremely tempting

Have you checked Gentei kits for it?
http://www.genteikits.com/hgeden

Pretty good site, i've gotten a few kits from them. Always cheaper than GG infinite.

Skye629 2013-07-06 15:35

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Originally Posted by Knight-of-Gold (Post 4749447)
Have you checked Gentei kits for it?
http://www.genteikits.com/hgeden

Pretty good site, i've gotten a few kits from them. Always cheaper than GG infinite.

Oooooh interesting, a site which specializes in exclusives

So how fair is their shipping rates? And how fast do they ship? Im on the US West Coast

And how good is their customer services?

GameraBaenre 2013-07-08 17:14

Recently finished this: http://gamerabaenre.com/?page_id=2803

It's a Nu Gundam diorama that is based off the box art from the 1/100 Nu Gundam that came out in 1989.

firefox 2013-07-09 06:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skye629 (Post 4749463)
Oooooh interesting, a site which specializes in exclusives

So how fair is their shipping rates? And how fast do they ship? Im on the US West Coast

And how good is their customer services?

I tried them out just now. We will see what gives in a week or 2.

Big question, how many kits do you people build in one year?

I have a hard time keeping up with bandai's excellent releases.

Chiu_fan 2013-07-09 06:41

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Originally Posted by firefox (Post 4752873)
I tried them out just now. We will see what gives in a week or 2.

Big question, how many kits do you people build in one year?

I have a hard time keeping up with bandai's excellent releases.

I have about 15 committed kit projects at the moment and I don't just build Gundams.:heh:

Skye629 2013-07-09 20:19

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Originally Posted by firefox (Post 4752873)
I tried them out just now. We will see what gives in a week or 2.

Big question, how many kits do you people build in one year?

I have a hard time keeping up with bandai's excellent releases.

Cool let me know how it goes so I can order that Legilis (maybe)

I build anywhere between 3-8 kits (usually HG) depending on how much time I can find/how motivated I am to build a kit. Note though Im a perfectionist so I try to make my HG kits look as good as possible with whatever way I choose to build them

FalsePrime 2013-07-09 20:24

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Originally Posted by firefox (Post 4752873)
I tried them out just now. We will see what gives in a week or 2.

Big question, how many kits do you people build in one year?

I have a hard time keeping up with bandai's excellent releases.

This year was real slow.

However I think by the end of the year I will be at probably 17? Most have been High Grades this year and that will continue with HGAC Wing and AW DX.

Still I've gotten more then a few MG's done, and unlike alot of Gunpla fans, Bandai has only released 2 kits so far this year that I felt the need to get, those being Jesta and Sinanju Stien.

Now the second half of the year looks much more interesting, though hopefully I will get to skip the big december release if they do indeed decide to go with a Sazabi Ver Ka.

bio9205 2013-07-10 07:55

Been having RG Justice on my backlog for too long, I'm thinking of starting on it this weekend. After looking at the runners and instructions, I'm a bit confused about the pre-assembled inner frame. Do I have to do some cutting at the joints, or just bend them right out of the runner? I understand that they're made of polycap material, but I'm afraid of them breaking. Any idea what I should look out for/if there are proper steps to moving/separating the joints after I cut them out?

justavisitor 2013-07-10 08:08

So you are asking how to take the part out of the runner? Well, you have to look at the instruction very carefully because some useful parts actually look like the joints that connect to the runner. Once you take the useful part out of the runner, there is no need to cut anything.

As for how to take the part out, sometimes you could just bend it out if the joint is too thin, but otherwise you could cut it. Just beware that when you decide to cut, some very small parts will easily go missing as they tend to fly out to far places XD

~Destiny~ 2013-07-10 14:19

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Originally Posted by bio9205 (Post 4754065)
Been having RG Justice on my backlog for too long, I'm thinking of starting on it this weekend. After looking at the runners and instructions, I'm a bit confused about the pre-assembled inner frame. Do I have to do some cutting at the joints, or just bend them right out of the runner? I understand that they're made of polycap material, but I'm afraid of them breaking. Any idea what I should look out for/if there are proper steps to moving/separating the joints after I cut them out?

Always ALWAYS cut the inner frame out. It's like you said, it's made out of the same material as poly caps, but with some hard plastic parts too. Trying to bend them out will definitely break or damage them.

As for the actual parts, after you cut them out there are sometimes little nubs between joints(mostly near elbows and knees) that you still need to cut off. Also remember to loosen the joints before you put everything together, RG inner frames are pretty stiff oob


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