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Obelisk ze Tormentor 2015-03-31 18:58

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Originally Posted by Galaxian (Post 5487727)
Thanks, I ordered the RG. Though I still have my finger cross for a future HGBF Build Freedom in the future :D

Even with just a glimpse, you should know that HG Freedom is a sad excuse of a model kit. Not even the old HGUC has proportion that bad. That said, even though the RG is light-years better than the HG in almost every aspect, it’s still not perfect either. The proportion (especially for the legs and big head) is still a bit off and the vents on the face-mask are too big if you look closely. Id, say the MG is still the best representation of Freedom with the Metal Build comes next due to its high-stylized nature.

Skye629 2015-03-31 20:07

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Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor (Post 5487822)
Even with just a glimpse, you should know that HG Freedom is a sad excuse of a model kit. Not even the old HGUC has proportion that bad. That said, even though the RG is light-years better than the HG in almost every aspect, it’s still not perfect either. The proportion (especially for the legs and big head) is still a bit off and the vents on the face-mask are too big if you look closely. Id, say the MG is still the best representation of Freedom with the Metal Build comes next due to its high-stylized nature.

The new RD looks pretty nice too, but thats not a model kit

Im waiting for a HGCE, or a BF custom (which would also lead to a HGCE), same holds true for both iterations of the Justice, and the SF

Heck 90% of the SEED/DESTINY line needs an update

Galaxian 2015-03-31 20:57

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Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor (Post 5487822)
Even with just a glimpse, you should know that HG Freedom is a sad excuse of a model kit. Not even the old HGUC has proportion that bad. That said, even though the RG is light-years better than the HG in almost every aspect, itís still not perfect either. The proportion (especially for the legs and big head) is still a bit off and the vents on the face-mask are too big if you look closely. Id, say the MG is still the best representation of Freedom with the Metal Build comes next due to its high-stylized nature.

Sadly, MG was out of pay grade. There was only a $2 difference between the RG and HG Remastered so I went with the latter.

Skye629 2015-03-31 23:29

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Originally Posted by Galaxian (Post 5487895)
Sadly, MG was out of pay grade. There was only a $2 difference between the RG and HG Remastered so I went with the latter.

Good choice

Really there are only 3 reasons to get the HG SEED Freedom

1. You own every other kit in the line and it's the last one you need for the collection
2. A good modding challenge
3. Kitbashing/custom projects

wavehawk 2015-04-01 04:06

RG Freedom. It still has balance issues due to the weight of wings (can't be helped) but at least the waist mounted railguns are not as fragile or as floppy as the HG version.

Patriot's Blade 2015-04-01 04:54

was there any reason why the old HG C.E. Gundams & their variants had the puffy marshmallow proportions in the first place? its not just technical limitations back in the day right? the HGUC GM units had better proportions for some reason.............

LoweGear 2015-04-01 05:00

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Originally Posted by DRAGUN H.E.X. (Post 5488209)
was there any reason why the old HG C.E. Gundams & their variants had the puffy marshmallow proportions in the first place?

AFAIK because they were using Kunio Okawara's lineart as the base for the models, and those did have the SPACEMARINEHEUG pauldrons.

Skye629 2015-04-01 05:39

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Originally Posted by LoweGear (Post 5488213)
AFAIK because they were using Kunio Okawara's lineart as the base for the models, and those did have the SPACEMARINEHEUG pauldrons.

This

Thank god they have moved away from that

Skye629 2015-04-01 07:01

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-fbo-97muRG...titled-107.jpg

Pretty damn sure the foremost one is that new Zeta that Yuuma built

What are the other two???

Im guessing the rear left is the Leopard Custom unit used by Suga

The rearmost Im assuming is the SD....that Lady Kawaguchi one?

And the right one is obviously Ral's new RickDom

Ryuuoh DeltaPlus 2015-04-01 07:05

I ordered my first MG, the Delta Plus, and it's bound to arrive next week.

A friend of mine recommended me some time ago to get the Zeta 2.0, but I like the Delta Plus more.

Are there fundamental differences between the two? Cuz both are transforming models..

Skye629 2015-04-01 07:13

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Originally Posted by Ryuuoh DeltaPlus (Post 5488315)
I ordered my first MG, the Delta Plus, and it's bound to arrive next week.

A friend of mine recommended me some time ago to get the Zeta 2.0, but I like the Delta Plus more.

Are there fundamental differences between the two? Cuz both are transforming models..

Not really, similar transformation process, the Zeta just has more room to mess around with since it has a few more weapons/gimmicks and a neat stand

I also suggest you get a stand unless you are going to pose it just standing still

Ryuuoh DeltaPlus 2015-04-01 08:02

^I bought an action base along with it so I can do aerial poses and stuff..

Skye629 2015-04-01 19:28

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Originally Posted by Ryuuoh DeltaPlus (Post 5488348)
^I bought an action base along with it so I can do aerial poses and stuff..

Sweet, don't expect it to be too dynamic like the SEED MG's though

Post some pics for us when you are done :)



Come to think of it I keep forgetting to post pics of my collection/display for you guys....Maybe I'll get around to it.....sometime

Knight_SV 2015-04-01 21:44

I have the old hg freedom and yes it's terrible kit than the today's standard. I hope bandai will still resuming the all gundam project HG with a HGCE Freedom, HGAC Wing Zero EW(the RG has an issue in the head)

Blue-kun 2015-04-01 23:12

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Originally Posted by Galaxian (Post 5487479)
Quick question, which would you guys recommend RG Freedom or HG Freedom Remastered?

I got the RG Freedom as my first ever Gunpla kit because I just love the heck out of the Freedom and I'm not disappointed at all. I'm sure I could do a better job at panel lining and what not, and some day I will, but even 'almost straight out of the box' it looks rather nice.

Some somewhat bad pictures taken with a cell phone below. If you're more experienced than I am, expect to be able to make it look better, haha.



And while we're at it, sad story of today. I bought the RG Justice, cause my Freedom's been lonely in my shelf and needs his partner in crime. Couple weeks waiting, it finally gets through customs but is taxed. Then it finally gets to my town this afternoon and I call the post office to ask how much I'll have to pay, all while thinking I'll be able to go pick it up tomorrow.

Guy just tells me I can't go because they won't be open til next monday due to Easter. Or rather, more specifically, they won't open tomorrow because they're mounting a huge stage for the play about Jesus' life RIGHT IN FRONT of the PO and the entrance is blocked so they'll have the day off + friday is a holiday etc.

There goes my long weekend Gunpla extravaganza dream! :heh:

Chibiloli 2015-04-02 03:03

Hey guys, mind if I ask something? I'm looking for a particular HG kit I can use to build a mutirole unit like the Impulse, the thing is, I REALLY like the Impulse too much that I have a slight prejudice against anything else, I was thinking of either getting a Strike or a Build Strike but the colors don't really interest me, then I saw the Build Gundam Mk2 but the head was a turn-off because I realized it was an airmaster head, and as somebody who owns an airmaster, the head kinda looks goofy.

Skye629 2015-04-02 05:20

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Originally Posted by Chibiloli (Post 5489065)
Hey guys, mind if I ask something? I'm looking for a particular HG kit I can use to build a mutirole unit like the Impulse, the thing is, I REALLY like the Impulse too much that I have a slight prejudice against anything else, I was thinking of either getting a Strike or a Build Strike but the colors don't really interest me, then I saw the Build Gundam Mk2 but the head was a turn-off because I realized it was an airmaster head, and as somebody who owns an airmaster, the head kinda looks goofy.

By multirole are you asking a single unit with everything it needs on it, or the ability to swap out packs/parts?

And to what extent are you going to be modifying the kit? Or are you simply looking for an out of the box build/mech that fits what you are asking for?

Im also going to assume that you are asking for a single base unit atm

Knight_SV 2015-04-02 07:57

HGBF Lightning Zeta will serve as base for HGUC revive Zeta Gundam it seems

kct 2015-04-02 09:04

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Originally Posted by Knight_SV (Post 5489229)
HGBF Lightning Zeta will serve as base for HGUC revive Zeta Gundam it seems

In my opinion problem with a HGUC Revive Zeta Gundam is that it might be a bit of a hard sell, especially in light of the RG Zeta Gundam. Still, given that the RG Strike and HGCE Strike can co-exist together...

wavehawk 2015-04-02 18:26

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Originally Posted by kct (Post 5489289)
In my opinion problem with a HGUC Revive Zeta Gundam is that it might be a bit of a hard sell, especially in light of the RG Zeta Gundam. Still, given that the RG Strike and HGCE Strike can co-exist together...

- Here's reasons why an HG Revive Zeta would sell:
- Cheaper than the RG (the number one reason). Remember that the old HGUC Zeta came with a Hypermegalauncher, the RG Zeta did not, and the Build Parts Hypermegalauncher isn't a perfect fit with it.
- Doesn't have the RG transformation system, so will have more robust joints to pose with.
- Easier to put together and more importantly easier to mod with other HG kit parts
- Will have a different design style from either the RG or the older HGUC Zeta (Just compare the HGUC Gundam, the HGUC G30 Gundam, the RG Gundam, and the HG Revive Gundam--they all look noticably different in terms of details)

I'm also hoping that an HG Revive zeta means that Bandai's learned from some of the flaws of the HGUC Zetaplus kit (can't torso twist even though the polycap should allow it to). The whole point of the HG part-swap transformations is so that you get a posable MS mode and a decent transformed mode

kct 2015-04-02 19:13

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Originally Posted by wavehawk (Post 5489756)
I'm also hoping that an HG Revive zeta means that Bandai's learned from some of the flaws of the HGUC Zetaplus kit (can't torso twist even though the polycap should allow it to). The whole point of the HG part-swap transformations is so that you get a posable MS mode and a decent transformed mode

Agreed on those points. But really, if they end up applying the lessons learned from the Zplus (A1, where's the C1, Bandai?) into the Revive Zeta it'll be pretty funny since it will be the MG Zplus to MG Zeta 2.0 all over again.

Meanwhile, my progress on something related to the subject era-wise.

Skye629 2015-04-02 22:02

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Originally Posted by kct (Post 5489777)
Agreed on those points. But really, if they end up applying the lessons learned from the Zplus (A1, where's the C1, Bandai?) into the Revive Zeta it'll be pretty funny since it will be the MG Zplus to MG Zeta 2.0 all over again.

Meanwhile, my progress on something related to the subject era-wise.

Take a guess what they usually do with a mostly color swap variant



We all know where this is going right?

Chibiloli 2015-04-03 01:22

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Originally Posted by Skye629 (Post 5489121)
By multirole are you asking a single unit with everything it needs on it, or the ability to swap out packs/parts?

And to what extent are you going to be modifying the kit? Or are you simply looking for an out of the box build/mech that fits what you are asking for?

Im also going to assume that you are asking for a single base unit atm

One with the ability to swap out parts with others, use other equipment aside its standard as well, prefer out of the box but I'll be painting it, not much modifying aside from the paint and the swapping out of parts, but thats pretty much it, I was thinking of Strike or Build Strike, but I like the core block system of the Impulse a lot more than single whole units.

Skye629 2015-04-03 03:15

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Originally Posted by Chibiloli (Post 5489965)
One with the ability to swap out parts with others, use other equipment aside its standard as well, prefer out of the box but I'll be painting it, not much modifying aside from the paint and the swapping out of parts, but thats pretty much it, I was thinking of Strike or Build Strike, but I like the core block system of the Impulse a lot more than single whole units.

Not much core block/transforming systems like Impulse out there unfortunately

The main one being Victory, however there are few models for it, and even then, it don't have that much options aside from the HEXA and weapons from the V2.....

O wait, there's also the AGE-3, which uses a core block system (though the core block is mounted somewhat differently). The HG AGE units in general are extremely compatible with each other, assuming you are sticking to suits within the same factions. Personally I would suggest starting here if you decide to not go with the Strike/Striker packs

StratoSpear 2015-04-03 04:00

I just came back from my Japan trip yesterday. Bought these guys on impulse when I did a couple of trips to Odaiba.

Spoiler for Unicorns:


I never knew the Strikes Odaiba Set was a thing... Anyone has any input/comments about them?

Knight_SV 2015-04-03 05:24

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Originally Posted by wavehawk (Post 5489756)
- Here's reasons why an HG Revive Zeta would sell:
- Cheaper than the RG (the number one reason). Remember that the old HGUC Zeta came with a Hypermegalauncher, the RG Zeta did not, and the Build Parts Hypermegalauncher isn't a perfect fit with it.
- Doesn't have the RG transformation system, so will have more robust joints to pose with.
- Easier to put together and more importantly easier to mod with other HG kit parts
- Will have a different design style from either the RG or the older HGUC Zeta (Just compare the HGUC Gundam, the HGUC G30 Gundam, the RG Gundam, and the HG Revive Gundam--they all look noticably different in terms of details)

I'm also hoping that an HG Revive zeta means that Bandai's learned from some of the flaws of the HGUC Zetaplus kit (can't torso twist even though the polycap should allow it to). The whole point of the HG part-swap transformations is so that you get a posable MS mode and a decent transformed mode

Totally agree. I have RG Zeta and very dissapointed on his waist articulation, so frail and much problem for the sake of waverider transformation. I prefer the part swapping that the old hguc zeta had rather than the RG. I hope bandai will release the HGUC revive Zeta later this year

Obelisk ze Tormentor 2015-04-03 07:13

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Originally Posted by StratoSpear (Post 5490070)
I just came back from my Japan trip yesterday. Bought these guys on impulse when I did a couple of trips to Odaiba.

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I never knew the Strikes Odaiba Set was a thing... Anyone has any input/comments about them?

Well, if you like Unicorn & Banshee in green frames, you actually bought a very nice set. I can't think of a better HG set.

As for the Phenex, unfortunately you bought one with the non-shiny gold instead of this one:
Dynamic tag cannot be rendered. (PrintableThread) But it's fine if you like the non-shiny gold the HGUC Phenex has ;).

Chibiloli 2015-04-03 07:46

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Originally Posted by Skye629 (Post 5490046)
Not much core block/transforming systems like Impulse out there unfortunately

The main one being Victory, however there are few models for it, and even then, it don't have that much options aside from the HEXA and weapons from the V2.....

O wait, there's also the AGE-3, which uses a core block system (though the core block is mounted somewhat differently). The HG AGE units in general are extremely compatible with each other, assuming you are sticking to suits within the same factions. Personally I would suggest starting here if you decide to not go with the Strike/Striker packs

I wanna use the striker packs, one with two holes on its back is fine as well.

bio9205 2015-04-03 07:58

Holy shit, that boxart with the Unicorn and Banshee is sooooooo badass. Lucky!

Just ordered my HG Transient and RG 00R. Been a while since I built a Gunpla, can't wait to get them :D

StratoSpear 2015-04-03 09:07

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Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor (Post 5490162)
Well, if you like Unicorn & Banshee in green frames, you actually bought a very nice set. I can't think of a better HG set.

As for the Phenex, unfortunately you bought one with the non-shiny gold instead of this one:
Dynamic tag cannot be rendered. (PrintableThread) But it's fine if you like the non-shiny gold the HGUC Phenex has ;).

I didn't know there was a shiny version :heh:

Then again, I am planning to repaint it into shiny gold. Just wondering how would I go about that... And I'm also planning to get an airbrush set before painting my next kit. Any tips is appreciated :)

wavehawk 2015-04-03 09:35

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Originally Posted by Skye629 (Post 5490046)
The main one being Victory, however there are few models for it, and even then, it don't have that much options aside from the HEXA and weapons from the V2.....

- If you're lucky and find the old 1/144 Victory Gundam Weapons set, that might work. But I've been trying to hunt one down for ages with no luck.

It's an older kit and pretty simple, but has loads of good stuff. They were designed for the old flimsy 1/144 Victory Gundam line, but I think you can make do with minor mods. Ideally grab 2-3 packs. In the set are extra Beam Rifles (Victory/GunEz and V2 type), a Beam Pistol, and the bule-and-whtie things are VSBRs that are mounted on the Victory Gundam's waist.
http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp...7/gds-4472.jpg

I once (many years back) got a 1/144 Victory Hexa, slapped the Dash pack and VSBRs on it, and called it Arsenal Gundam. Unfortunately that was in the 1990's and I've since lost the original kit.

helois 2015-04-03 12:57

slow build meanwhile preparation for thesis university degree,but an overkill build!!!



bad painted,but for a coulor impression... colouring after degree! :D

Skye629 2015-04-03 20:27

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Originally Posted by Chibiloli (Post 5490184)
I wanna use the striker packs, one with two holes on its back is fine as well.

Hmm I dont know all of the two hole on the back connection kits

Personally, I would go on Dalong and check out all the HG kits and see which ones have the back connections you are looking for

From there its simply getting the packs

As another note, there are connectors/adaptors which may help you mount striker packs onto other units. They can be found in the build fighters add-on stuff and the builders parts series. Of course, this is if you are willing to go out of your way for additional purchases

Chibiloli 2015-04-04 06:37

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Originally Posted by Skye629 (Post 5490898)
Hmm I dont know all of the two hole on the back connection kits

Personally, I would go on Dalong and check out all the HG kits and see which ones have the back connections you are looking for

From there its simply getting the packs

As another note, there are connectors/adaptors which may help you mount striker packs onto other units. They can be found in the build fighters add-on stuff and the builders parts series. Of course, this is if you are willing to go out of your way for additional purchases

Money is no object for me, the only problem is getting them as I cannot order online and the nearest mall is all the way in baguio, and some prick from baguio keeps buying up all the Gunpla, I actually went to Ilocos Norte and found a nice stash there, Star Build Strike Cosmos, R-Gyagya, Amazing Exia, Zeta Plus, and something I thought I'd never live to see in person,
Spoiler for Surprise surprise:

StrikeFreedomV2 2015-04-04 07:38

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Originally Posted by Chibiloli (Post 5491397)
Money is no object for me, the only problem is getting them as I cannot order online and the nearest mall is all the way in baguio, and some prick from baguio keeps buying up all the Gunpla, I actually went to Ilocos Norte and found a nice stash there, Star Build Strike Cosmos, R-Gyagya, Amazing Exia, Zeta Plus, and something I thought I'd never live to see in person,
Spoiler for Surprise surprise:

Star Build Strike Cosmos? You're sure you just didn't mistake it with the Star Build Strike with plavsky wings? A Cosmos version hasn't been released afaik

Chibiloli 2015-04-04 08:25

Oh, sorry, yeah, plavsky wing, my bad, think I'll paint the Build Strike in RX-78-2 colors, or maybe put more emphasis on the blue, and I plan on converting my Powered GM Cardigan with space pirate decals, know any good sites I can use to print Skulls and crossbones off?

Skye629 2015-04-04 18:53

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Originally Posted by Chibiloli (Post 5491397)
Money is no object for me, the only problem is getting them as I cannot order online and the nearest mall is all the way in baguio, and some prick from baguio keeps buying up all the Gunpla, I actually went to Ilocos Norte and found a nice stash there, Star Build Strike Cosmos, R-Gyagya, Amazing Exia, Zeta Plus, and something I thought I'd never live to see in person,
Spoiler for Surprise surprise:

Sounds like your selection is extremely limited :/

Ill probably just go with the SBS from what you listed

wavehawk 2015-04-04 19:04

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Originally Posted by Skye629 (Post 5492543)
Sounds like your selection is extremely limited :/

- The local distribution of Bandai stuff in the Philippines was pretty messed up back when I last was in the Philippines (2008). You had walls of the same type of kits, but very few of the newer or popular ones. In Makati at that time I went to a couple of toy and hobby stores that sold the original Ver 1.0 MG Gundam and had WALLS full of the old Kamen Rider Kuuga Souchaku Henshin figures. But no Gundam 00 kits at that time.

The guys who get kits either order online or they go to a shop that doesn't source their kits from the local suppliers (and thus pay more for it). Some toy collector shops in the Shoppesvill section of Greenhills Shopping centre would have had them (I missed going there since they had lots of oddball stuff, like customized 1/12 Koji Kabuto figures).

I don't know if it's gotten better since then. When I started with Gunpla it was in the 80's and only hobby shops and stores in Chinatown had the LEGIT ones at the time. Bootleg Gunpla were (and probably still are) pretty rampant in Divisoria and Binondo street markets.

Chibiloli 2015-04-04 21:48

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Originally Posted by Skye629 (Post 5492543)
Sounds like your selection is extremely limited :/

Blame the prick from baguio who travels to manila with a budget in the hundred thousands, I hear this guy buys up most of the Gunpla in the metro area whereas at most I can only spend $200 in one trip.

@Wavehawk

Its gotten better, that and I know the warehouse where they store the Gunpla that comes into the country is, so I can buy them cheap too, oh, and free complimentary weapons.

Chiu_fan 2015-04-05 08:36

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Originally Posted by Chibiloli (Post 5491397)
Money is no object for me, the only problem is getting them as I cannot order online and the nearest mall is all the way in baguio, and some prick from baguio keeps buying up all the Gunpla, I actually went to Ilocos Norte and found a nice stash there, Star Build Strike Cosmos, R-Gyagya, Amazing Exia, Zeta Plus, and something I thought I'd never live to see in person,
Spoiler for Surprise surprise:

Then I guess you haven't heard about our local hobby shop here, it's called white base located at Maharlika. That where we mostly get our kits and supplies. Yes, I'm from Baguio and no I'm not the prick who keeps on buying everything at the mall.


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