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duotiga 2012-07-27 23:26

If they are able to execute RG Zeta & make it firm & stable, te variants can be many , not just delta plus ( delta, delta Kai, zeta a1/c1) . What I'm hoping is they can improved the core block system to do RG ZZ or even the impulse gundam variants

casval cehack 2012-07-27 23:47

I can only imagine the joy of applying minuscle realistic "decals" on a gunpla like ZZ.:heh:

duotiga 2012-07-28 00:12

I can't imagine what is like If RG V/V2/F91/F90 variants...the 1/100 scale is already small. Imagine 1/144 @@

casval cehack 2012-07-28 00:39

One thing: it won't take as long as RG Freedom (or RG Strike + Skygrasper + 3 striker packs).:D

duotiga 2012-07-28 00:42

I would say strike noir & strike iwsp want be long to RGfied 1st...Where for strike iwsp instead of giving grand slam, given the bazooka

Znozzy 2012-07-28 02:52

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Originally Posted by duotiga (Post 4277094)
I can't imagine what is like If RG V/V2/F91/F90 variants...the 1/100 scale is already small. Imagine 1/144 @@

Man, a RG V/2/F91/F90 would be as small as the Loto's, it would be near impossible to keep articulation without the thing breaking apart from just standing around!

The MG V is already flimsy and fragile enough, image that in 1/144 scale? if you changed pose the whole thing would turn into a pile of scrap plastic.

duotiga 2012-07-28 03:20

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Originally Posted by Znozzy (Post 4277225)
Man, a RG V/2/F91/F90 would be as small as the Loto's, it would be near impossible to keep articulation without the thing breaking apart from just standing around!

The MG V is already flimsy and fragile enough, image that in 1/144 scale? if you changed pose the whole thing would turn into a pile of scrap plastic.

i dont think is that small of Loto size. RD is around 1/144 scale & for F91 is still quite big

casval cehack 2012-07-28 05:00

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/2056/rgvj.jpg
It would be around this size in comparison to the current RGs. This old 1/144 Victory even has a pseudo innerframe and has quite good articulation for its age, which would be ofcourse eclipsed if Bandai decided to make a RG of it in the coming years.

Znozzy 2012-07-28 06:53

i stand corrected!

Bonta Kun 2012-07-28 12:55

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Originally Posted by Znozzy (Post 4277225)
The MG V is already flimsy and fragile enough, image that in 1/144 scale? if you changed pose the whole thing would turn into a pile of scrap plastic.

Don't think we'd see that happening considering how much the technology has improved over the years.
Pretty sure whatever they bring out now will be sturdy enough despite how small it gets.
Can't really compare models of today to those years ago, the tech has moved on so much it's really not fair on the older stuff:p

Zeydra 2012-07-28 14:09

Some new images for the upcoming Legilis Gundam HG are out.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-RctrwzqZG7.../s640/0114.jpg

Every time I see a modern HG kit I am reminded of just how far they've come in details compared to the kit I started with (HG Infinite Justice) years ago. Looking nice so far.

Rest of the images here: http://gundamguy.blogspot.com.au/201...pe-images.html

Ikaoru 2012-07-28 14:40

I'm so curious about the height difference between HG and RG? Are they almost the same by any chance?

casval cehack 2012-07-28 16:39

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Originally Posted by Ikaoru (Post 4277986)
I'm so curious about the height difference between HG and RG? Are they almost the same by any chance?

For their 1/144 HG counterparts, same height for the UC suits (Mk.II were a few mm smaller). But RG Freedom and Strike were noticeably taller; HG SEED kits had horrible proportions to begin with.

Akyra 2012-07-28 23:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeydra (Post 4277933)
Some new images for the upcoming Legilis Gundam HG are out.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-RctrwzqZG7.../s640/0114.jpg

Every time I see a modern HG kit I am reminded of just how far they've come in details compared to the kit I started with (HG Infinite Justice) years ago. Looking nice so far.

Rest of the images here: http://gundamguy.blogspot.com.au/201...pe-images.html

Wow...I'd get this in MG...:D

Appel 2012-07-29 05:06

about the RG victory... at this point i doubt it. until now all RG kits are suits with a basic head height of around 18m +/- half a meter (not counting extremely tall v-fins and sensors).
so my guess is that for now we will only see suits of that height because they can get away with making them all the same size so they dont have to modify the inner frame whole lot.
machines like the victory or the F91 are known for being really small so they would have to make them smaller than the others as well. that would mean that they would have to modify the frame a LOT.
im pretty sure that we will see smaller and bigger RGs in the future. but for now i think we can only expect suits from the 18m range.

StrikeFreedomV2 2012-07-29 05:50

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Originally Posted by Appel (Post 4279196)
about the RG victory... at this point i doubt it. until now all RG kits are suits with a basic head height of around 18m +/- half a meter (not counting extremely tall v-fins and sensors).
so my guess is that for now we will only see suits of that height because they can get away with making them all the same size so they dont have to modify the inner frame whole lot.
machines like the victory or the F91 are known for being really small so they would have to make them smaller than the others as well. that would mean that they would have to modify the frame a LOT.
im pretty sure that we will see smaller and bigger RGs in the future. but for now i think we can only expect suits from the 18m range.

And what about the Zeta? It's around 19 meters tall. They probably have to make a new frame for it. And if it CAN transform, they MUST make a new frame. I don't see why they can't make smaller frames than as well. But I do agree, that at this point in time, it's unlikely we will see either F91 or V Gundam in RG. But maybe Bandai surprises us in the future, who knows? :)

Appel 2012-07-29 06:01

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Originally Posted by StrikeFreedomV2 (Post 4279257)
And what about the Zeta? It's around 19 meters tall. They probably have to make a new frame for it. And if it CAN transform, they MUST make a new frame. I don't see why they can't make smaller frames than as well. But I do agree, that at this point in time, it's unlikely we will see either F91 or V Gundam in RG. But maybe Bandai surprises us in the future, who knows? :)

according to MAHQ it has a head height of 18.7 meters. so if they make the model in 1/144 scale and make it 12.5cm tall instead of 12.9cm as it should be in that scale they could totally get away with cheating a little^^
if they did make a new frame for it so that it can transform thats a whole different story though. but i suppose they would still make it as tall as the other RGs in that case so that they can reuse at least a few pieces.
i do worry about the RG zeta being incredibly flimsy though if they do make it transformable.

StrikeFreedomV2 2012-07-29 06:07

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Originally Posted by Appel (Post 4279266)
according to MAHQ it has a head height of 18.7 meters. so if they make the model in 1/144 scale and make it 12.5cm tall instead of 12.9cm as it should be in that scale they could totally get away with cheating a little^^
if they did make a new frame for it so that it can transform thats a whole different story though. but i suppose they would still make it as tall as the other RGs in that case so that they can reuse at least a few pieces.
i do worry about the RG zeta being incredibly flimsy though if they do make it transformable.

Thats my biggest fear, that it will be flimsy :( Even my 2.0 is kinda flimsy, and I never transform it. I hope they make the RG a Partsformer. I don't mind that, and it makes the kit much more solid.

Obelisk ze Tormentor 2012-07-29 06:14

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Originally Posted by StrikeFreedomV2 (Post 4279273)
I hope they make the RG a Partsformer. I don't mind that, and it makes the kit much more solid.

Yup, like the HG Delta Plus. Speaking of which, I really am tempted to get that metallic edition of HG D-Plus.

casval cehack 2012-07-29 06:29

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Originally Posted by StrikeFreedomV2 (Post 4279273)
Thats my biggest fear, that it will be flimsy :( Even my 2.0 is kinda flimsy, and I never transform it. I hope they make the RG a Partsformer. I don't mind that, and it makes the kit much more solid.

That was my take before too, but with this "For New Evolution" thing, I believe Bandai will take some risks. If the presumed RG Zeta has even weaker knees than the current HGUC, I'll just buy two kits.

StrikeFreedomV2 2012-07-29 06:33

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Originally Posted by casval cehack (Post 4279301)
That was my take before too, but with this "For New Evolution" thing, I believe Bandai will take some risks. If the presumed RG Zeta has even weaker knees than the current HGUC, I'll just buy two kits.

I'm staying sceptical and wait for some reviews first. I really hope Bandai can pull it off.

bio9205 2012-07-29 08:00

Speaking of frames, do all the current RGs use the same frame?

HasuMasu 2012-07-29 08:02

^ No, looking at the Freedom beside me and comparing it to pictures of the Mk. II it's easy to tell the Mk. II is...thicker? Not sure if that's the right word.

casval cehack 2012-07-29 08:34

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Originally Posted by bio9205 (Post 4279403)
Speaking of frames, do all the current RGs use the same frame?

Nope, the advanced ms joints are unique. Ofcourse, both Zaku II shares the same frame; same case with Freedom and Justice.

Appel 2012-07-29 08:55

while they are somewhat unique they do share the same basic design.

duotiga 2012-07-29 09:06

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Originally Posted by Appel (Post 4279470)
while they are somewhat unique they do share the same basic design.

i disagree on the design part though the side waist is similar in a way

RG RX-78-2

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o...83/rg_rx78.jpg

RG Aile Strike

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o...83/rg_aile.jpg

RG Freedom

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o...g_freedom3.jpg

RG MK II

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o.../rg_mkII14.jpg

Appel 2012-07-29 11:03

the torsos are different but the general design of the limbs is very similar.
they did recyle far less pieces than i thought though^^ so yeah, looks like they are more different from each other than i thought :P the overall design is similar but then again, most MGs have similar frames as well. while unique they do share certain features and design aspects.

also, my MG blitz just arrived in germany about an hour ago^^ so depending on how quickly it gets through customs i will probably have it around wednesday. but maybe im super lucky and it gets through customs today and i will have it tomorrow! but thats doubtful. i just hope the DHL express guy arrives before i go to work if it arrives on tuesday... usually they are here around 7am though, so shortly before i leave.
as for paints, i decided to ditch the chrome spray paint. its too bright and it sprays on in really thick layers, i dont think thats what i want for the frame.
instead i will just mix black and silver enamel paint. that way i can make it as dark or bright as i want it to be and since i spray it on with my airbrush the layers will be very fine.
im really excited now, the blitz has always been one of my favorite desings^^

Appel 2012-07-30 09:34

holy balls, i totally just saved my MG strike freedom O_O the action base connector in the crotch broke (probably due to the massive weight of the backpack) and it was about to fall down from the very top of my shelf! XD
so, id say make sure to check on your models with heavy backpacks every now and then. i had my strike freedom for about 2 years now and the connector broke.
also, because of this i can totally see why people who own the PG strike freedom had problems with the wings breaking off.

casval cehack 2012-07-30 09:41

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Originally Posted by Appel (Post 4281412)
holy balls, i totally just saved my MG strike freedom O_O the action base connector in the crotch broke (probably due to the massive weight of the backpack) and it was about to fall down from the very top of my shelf! XD
so, id say make sure to check on your models with heavy backpacks every now and then. i had my strike freedom for about 2 years now and the connector broke.
also, because of this i can totally see why people who own the PG strike freedom had problems with the wings breaking off.

Curious, is it a clear Action Base 1?

I display most of my gunpla in hangar mode (i.e. standing) and rotates a few on aerial action poses.

Appel 2012-07-30 09:56

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Originally Posted by casval cehack (Post 4281423)
Curious, is it a clear Action Base 1?

I display most of my gunpla in hangar mode (i.e. standing) and rotates a few on aerial action poses.

the MG strike freedom full burst mode comes with a clear darkblue action base one with a custom connector.
now i took my RX-78-2 2.0 from its base and put the strike freedom on one of those default connectors for older models that come with the base. not ideal but it works rather well. seems to be solid enough.
the problem is that the strike freedom simply needs a base because of the heavy backpack...

casval cehack 2012-07-30 10:54

Perfect time to try a different sturdier base.

Appel 2012-07-30 11:15

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Originally Posted by casval cehack (Post 4281512)
Perfect time to try a different sturdier base.

i really dont have the money to order a new actionbase right now^^
so for now its on one of the clear bases that i bought while i was in japan. its brand new so that shouldnt be a problem.

suiton629 2012-07-31 16:48

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni6EsayPYSE

I'm holding a GunPla contest with 2 prizes. :p
Good luck!

Appel 2012-08-01 02:15

i got blitz'd yesterday^^
pieces are all painted and top coated, and they turned out sooooo super glossy! i can actually see my reflection in them :D

Obelisk ze Tormentor 2012-08-01 02:25

Can't wait to see your photos ;).

Appel 2012-08-01 02:56

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Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor (Post 4284341)
Can't wait to see your photos ;).

well the pieces are all dried, i just cleaned up the cut marks (i sprayed everything while it still was on the runner because i am a lazy bum) so i just have to put it together now^^
i guess ill have it completed in a couple of hours.

firefox 2012-08-01 03:20

As if my backlog wasn't big enough yet my birthday present is comming my way:

1/100 MG Rezel
1/100 MG Blitz Gundam
1/100 MG Marasai

1/144 RG Justice Gundam
1/144 HG Nadleeh

Not the most common choices, but they will be interesting to build :)

helois 2012-08-01 04:38

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Originally Posted by Appel (Post 4284327)
i got blitz'd yesterday^^
pieces are all painted and top coated, and they turned out sooooo super glossy! i can actually see my reflection in them :D

Magic Blitz on the shelf
Who is the fairest of them all?
:heh::heh::heh::heh::heh:


:uhoh:

casval cehack 2012-08-01 05:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Appel (Post 4284362)
well the pieces are all dried, i just cleaned up the cut marks (i sprayed everything while it still was on the runner because i am a lazy bum) so i just have to put it together now^^
i guess ill have it completed in a couple of hours.

So...you Blitz through it.:heh:

Appel 2012-08-01 06:45

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Originally Posted by helois (Post 4284439)
Magic Blitz on the shelf
Who is the fairest of them all?
:heh::heh::heh::heh::heh:


:uhoh:

sort of XD

Quote:

Originally Posted by casval cehack (Post 4284469)
So...you Blitz through it.:heh:

yeah^^
im done already :P i just added a last layer of topcoat. ill take a photo once that dried but that is gonna take some time. so i will probably post them tomorrow.
its a great model but not as great as the duel. it does have a few tiny problems, there are mainly a couple of pieces falling off and the lancer darts are really lose.


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