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suiton629 2012-12-11 11:31

What series do you think that I would enjoy buying the MG's from given that Age and 00 are my top favorites (00 being my #1...)?

Skye629 2012-12-11 13:23

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Originally Posted by suiton629 (Post 4470835)
What series do you think that I would enjoy buying the MG's from given that Age and 00 are my top favorites (00 being my #1...)?

Hard to say given UC designs are so different from 00/AGE

In terms of model building though I highly recommend the 2.0s, they're quite a treat to build

suiton629 2012-12-11 13:30

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Originally Posted by Skye629 (Post 4470962)
Hard to say given UC designs are so different from 00/AGE

In terms of model building though I highly recommend the 2.0s, they're quite a treat to build

The thing is I tend to get everything in a series so like if I get 2.0's for kits that don't have an updated release along the same series, then I feel it's a waste... Weird. But that's just how I do things. =P

Bonta Kun 2012-12-11 15:50

Best thing to do is go look at the MG section of any place you order from and find something that takes your fancy, no point us listing anything if you won't go look yourself.
Then come back to us with a list of stuff that has taken your fancy and ask for a 2nd opinion.


I just saw the Heavy Support Unit from Kotobukiya, looks pretty mean!
Think I'll have to get it for my HG Seven Sword:heh:

suiton629 2012-12-11 15:57

I was going to get UC master grades but I'm leaning towards not going that way and instead getting the MG kits from the Gundam Wing line. I was thinking about the EW ones but with Wing EW and Wing Zero EW being an older 2001 frame where as the others have the newer frames makes me not want to get them all.

Do you suppose we'll see an updated release later? I remember Bandai promoting the Endless Waltz thing recently but people told me that was for a MG WING line of the new manga and not for a remastered release.

FalsePrime 2012-12-11 17:20

Ugh, for god sake man at least get your years right.

Wing Gundam Ver Ka came out in 2004 and Wing Zero EW later that year, much newer then 2001.

The rest has been covered by us several times. 2.0/Remasters are Rare, get it out of your mind as it's a logn way off. Everything else has been covered.

suiton629 2012-12-11 17:29

http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/Master_Grade

So then how is the MG Aile Strike getting a "remaster" when it originally came out in 2003? That isn't that big of a difference.

FalsePrime 2012-12-11 18:18

Aile Strike was much worse off.

That and Aile Strike is in a much different position. It's the first suit of Kira Yamato and of SEED. This is second only UC and it's popularity, no other series be it Wing/OO/G or any other AU comes close and trying to gauge other AU and what they might or might not get is foolish.

It's possible that one day Wing could get a remaster, but pointing and saying it's happening with SEED/Kira ignores the huge differences between them. Just ask yourself if Wing is getting a full HD Remaster with new scenes and Gundam's added. When you do so you will get your reason as to why Aile Strike is getting that.

suiton629 2012-12-11 18:26

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Originally Posted by FalsePrime (Post 4471238)
Aile Strike was much worse off.

That and Aile Strike is in a much different position. It's the first suit of Kira Yamato and of SEED. This is second only UC and it's popularity, no other series be it Wing/OO/G or any other AU comes close and trying to gauge other AU and what they might or might not get is foolish.

It's possible that one day Wing could get a remaster, but pointing and saying it's happening with SEED/Kira ignores the huge differences between them. Just ask yourself if Wing is getting a full HD Remaster with new scenes and Gundam's added. When you do so you will get your reason as to why Aile Strike is getting that.

So you're saying that Wing isn't popular in Japan? Really?

Also, what about:

http://inb4suiton.blogspot.com/2012/...-glory-of.html

Glory of the Defeated.. I think this might be a reason for them to remaster Wing EW and Wing Zero EW.

FalsePrime 2012-12-11 18:33

Please Suiton, for the love of god be reasonable, or at least don't stick your head so far in the sand.

Wing is popular, OO is popular, G is popular. NONE of these are on Universal Century (0079, Zeta, CCA, and Unicorn's) level. SEED is, none of the other AU's are even close to SEED's level.

Even if Wing somehow was as popular as SEED there is the issue that Wing EW just shipped with Shenlong last year and was not saved to create a new one with the XXX G frame like they did with Aile/Launcher/Sword Strike.

Infinite Zenith 2012-12-11 19:10

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Originally Posted by Appel (Post 4455702)
While the new Nu Ver.Ka does look amazing I kind of don't like that it seems to have clear psychoframe pieces throughout it's body...
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I mean look at it! The armor pieces even pop aside to reveal them! What is this? Nu Unicorn Gundam Destroy Mode? >__>
It kind of makes the Unicorn itself less unique in my opinion. The whole point of the Unicorn was to have a Gundam that has a complete psycho frame and now the Nu, which is much older than the Unicorn, does the exact same thing.
I know it's just a non-canonical redesign but in my opinion this kind of makes it look like they are trying to milk Unicorn even harder than they already are^^

That said, it does give fans of the Unicorn a sense of familiarity and as superficial as that sounds, the design has me sold. Forgive my imprudence, but has it been released yet, and how much does it cost? I'm looking to get it in the near future...

I've had my eye on the Nu Gundam for a while now simply because of its asymmetrical design and diverse weapons loadout, but the green psycho-frame, if it is indeed clear, the Gundam just became that much more appealing in terms of appearance.

suiton629 2012-12-11 19:11

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Originally Posted by ForwardUntoDawn (Post 4471275)
That said, it does give fans of the Unicorn a sense of familiarity and as superficial as that sounds, the design has me sold. Forgive my imprudence, but has it been released yet, and how much does it cost? I'm looking to get it in the near future...

From what I heard, the Nu Gundam was the predecessor the the Unicorn Gundam. So it would make sense that Nu Gundam has some sort of psycho-frame technology.

Rising Dragon 2012-12-11 19:31

It's always had the psycoframe technology.

The issue that people have with this model is that the Nu Gundam canonically only has psycoframe built around the cockpit and nowhere else--the Unicorn had the full body psycoframe, not the Nu.

suiton629 2012-12-11 19:32

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Originally Posted by Rising Dragon (Post 4471300)
It's always had the psycoframe technology.

The issue that people have with this model is that the Nu Gundam canonically only has psycoframe built around the cockpit and nowhere else--the Unicorn had the full body psycoframe, not the Nu.

I think they were just trying to go for the effect of psycho frame particles being emitted. If you saw pictures from various reviewers who posted parts tree and whatnot, you will see that there are small clear green pieces on the frame; not the entire frame like Unicorn.

maknaedik 2012-12-11 22:07

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Originally Posted by suiton629 (Post 4471305)
I think they were just trying to go for the effect of psycho frame particles being emitted. If you saw pictures from various reviewers who posted parts tree and whatnot, you will see that there are small clear green pieces on the frame; not the entire frame like Unicorn.

Well, Nu never emitted any psycho frame particles not until it overloaded and the particles was so similar to 00's trans-am burst. Also, I believe that 00's Trans-am burst was heavily inspired by that.

So in conclusion, I think it's just nothing more but a gimmick. That same gimmick made Unicorn sell like pancakes. And for me, even though it's just a gimmick, I appreciate it and you can always hide those if you don't want to.

Obelisk ze Tormentor 2012-12-12 01:11

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Originally Posted by suiton629 (Post 4470973)
The thing is I tend to get everything in a series so like if I get 2.0's for kits that don't have an updated release along the same series, then I feel it's a waste... Weird. But that's just how I do things. =P

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Originally Posted by suiton629 (Post 4471104)
I was thinking about the EW ones but with Wing EW and Wing Zero EW being an older 2001 frame where as the others have the newer frames makes me not want to get them all.

Sucks to be you isn’t it? You have to get the whole series/category while many of us have no problem getting only the ones we truly like regardless of series or universe. :p

For example, I'll be happily getting MG AGE-1 Spallow while not caring about Normal or Titus, I'll gladly buy MG AGE-3 Normal without paying any attention to Orbital or Fortress, I'll cheerfully pick MG AGE-2 Dark Hound and just left other AGE-2 versions in the cold store shelves, etc :D

firefox 2012-12-12 02:34

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Originally Posted by ForwardUntoDawn (Post 4471275)
That said, it does give fans of the Unicorn a sense of familiarity and as superficial as that sounds, the design has me sold. Forgive my imprudence, but has it been released yet, and how much does it cost? I'm looking to get it in the near future...

I've had my eye on the Nu Gundam for a while now simply because of its asymmetrical design and diverse weapons loadout, but the green psycho-frame, if it is indeed clear, the Gundam just became that much more appealing in terms of appearance.

I normally hate NU gundam, i hate funnels, i hate the pilot, I hate the movie, I don't even like Unicorn gundam but i love the way this MG NU looks with the small psycho parts. So i will be buying the gundam i probably hate the most...because this version looks very good....(this is definately a case for a good shrink)

That said i finished construction and pannelining of the MG Hi-NU gundam yesterday, now only decals to apply and he's off :)

Skye629 2012-12-12 02:41

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Originally Posted by suiton629 (Post 4471244)
So you're saying that Wing isn't popular in Japan? Really?

Also, what about:

http://inb4suiton.blogspot.com/2012/...-glory-of.html

Glory of the Defeated.. I think this might be a reason for them to remaster Wing EW and Wing Zero EW.

Wings popular, but not SEED or UC popular in Japan, if you asked that question in NA however........

suiton629 2012-12-12 10:57

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Originally Posted by Skye629 (Post 4471666)
Wings popular, but not SEED or UC popular in Japan, if you asked that question in NA however........

Yea. I figured that much with Seed HD Remaster and now Seed Destiny HD Remaster.

But that whole Glory of the Defeated campaign that was mentioned gets me hopeful ya know? Like what if they were to do a Gundam Wing HD Remaster and Gundam Wing Endless Waltz (Movie) HD Remaster on TV?

Imagine that. And a perfect way to complement that would be with a new release of MG Wing Gundam EW and MG Wing Gundam Zero EW... Sort of like Gundam Seed HD airing on TV and how we're getting a "Remaster" (aka 2.0) of the MG Aile Strike Gundam.

I guess this will have to go into my wish list next to my MG wishlist..

Now if Bandai could finally learn not to overprice their manga and BluRay releases. Then I think more people would be more inclined to purchase them and Bandai won't have to complain about pirates and low sales.

Bonta Kun 2012-12-12 21:32

Gundam Artworks by Masarebelth: GXX X-78 Veronica Gundam & Others

Yes I can see that they have a somewhat Bayformers look to them but I don't see it as a bad thing.
Infact gives them that little more realistic look to them.
But either way I really like the look of them, think they are great.

Now if only...

FalsePrime 2012-12-13 20:10

Got my payment request from HLJ less then an hour ago and I've already paid. So hopefully this time next week MG Nu Ver Ka will have arrived and I can finally check that bad boy out in person.

Obelisk ze Tormentor 2012-12-13 20:56

^ I'm waiting for your report, Prime. Tell us all about it. :D

Bonta Kun 2012-12-13 21:37

Just checked on HLJ and it would cost me about 53 for MG NU.....so yea think I'll leave it till I go back to Hong Kong in Jan:heh:

And yes will be waiting on the report!:hyper-^v^:

FalsePrime 2012-12-14 03:04

Haha.

Already got a shipping notice to thankfully. Looks like it should be here by the 19th. I will make sure to post some impressions as soon as I can. Sadly might not be home on the day of the arrival because of a sleep app test at the hospital, but I will be tearing into it as soon as I return home.

Sworra 2012-12-14 20:04

Hobbylink TV just aired the Nu Gundam, looking at some of the runners. Can't wait to get mine.

Skye629 2012-12-15 04:13

Arrrrggghhh the HGUC Kshatriyas funnels and white sleeve trims are driving me crazy Dx

I also built the old NG 1/144 Mercurius, nice kit for its age, makes you appreciate what you have now lol ^^

And for some reason I just realized the new HGUC Banshee may be in GR colors, since it was actually fielded on that ship in the novels along with the Jesta team

Znozzy 2012-12-15 04:38

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Originally Posted by Skye629 (Post 4475573)
Arrrrggghhh the HGUC Kshatriyas funnels and white sleeve trims are driving me crazy Dx

I also built the old NG 1/144 Mercurius, nice kit for its age, makes you appreciate what you have now lol ^^

And for some reason I just realized the new HGUC Banshee may be in GR colors, since it was actually fielded on that ship in the novels along with the Jesta team

Regarding the Kshatriyas sleeves, try cutting up the stickers (if you are using those) before applying them, Dalong has a few pictures about it if i recall, if not check his shinanju review and he did the same thing there, it really helped me out.

Skye629 2012-12-15 04:46

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Originally Posted by Znozzy (Post 4475589)
Regarding the Kshatriyas sleeves, try cutting up the stickers (if you are using those) before applying them, Dalong has a few pictures about it if i recall, if not check his shinanju review and he did the same thing there, it really helped me out.

I have a horrible steady hand, which is the primary reason why the fine sleeve trims are such a pain for me, as such cutting that well is out of the question lol

The way I am doing it right now is:

1. Messily apply as best I can with white gundam paint marker
2. Use toothpick with alcohol to clean as best as I can (which is really hard as some gaps are so tiny
3. What I cant scrape off I go over with a black lining pen to look neater
4. Repeat 1-3 continuously

Such a pain, I hate it, the white looks horrible even after several layers and cleaning it makes it more of a pain

Skye629 2012-12-15 04:53

Oh on another note:

What are those clear stands that some gunpla reviewers use called? The ones which looks like glass with multiple bend joints, anyone know what they are called?

If so would anyone recommend them?

How much are they?

Are they better than Bandai's action bases?

Znozzy 2012-12-15 05:29

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Originally Posted by Skye629 (Post 4475592)
I have a horrible steady hand, which is the primary reason why the fine sleeve trims are such a pain for me, as such cutting that well is out of the question lol

The way I am doing it right now is:

1. Messily apply as best I can with white gundam paint marker
2. Use toothpick with alcohol to clean as best as I can (which is really hard as some gaps are so tiny
3. What I cant scrape off I go over with a black lining pen to look neater
4. Repeat 1-3 continuously

Such a pain, I hate it, the white looks horrible even after several layers and cleaning it makes it more of a pain

If you can't cut them i'd say #4 until you are satisfied :) It sucks, but a easy hobby is a boring one, isnt it?

i mean, if you mess up too much you can airbrush it pink, add some stars to it and call it a Lacus Custom : D

Bonta Kun 2012-12-15 08:14

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Originally Posted by Skye629 (Post 4475592)
I have a horrible steady hand, which is the primary reason why the fine sleeve trims are such a pain for me, as such cutting that well is out of the question lol

The way I am doing it right now is:

1. Messily apply as best I can with white gundam paint marker
2. Use toothpick with alcohol to clean as best as I can (which is really hard as some gaps are so tiny
3. What I cant scrape off I go over with a black lining pen to look neater
4. Repeat 1-3 continuously

Such a pain, I hate it, the white looks horrible even after several layers and cleaning it makes it more of a pain

Oh I feel your pain, I'm the same lol
There are times where it could actually take me up to 30 mins to apply a small sticker:frustrated:

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Originally Posted by Skye629 (Post 4475597)
Oh on another note:

What are those clear stands that some gunpla reviewers use called? The ones which looks like glass with multiple bend joints, anyone know what they are called?

If so would anyone recommend them?

How much are they?

Are they better than Bandai's action bases?

Not sure what stand your on about altho I'm guessing action base 3(?)but heres whats on offer on HLJ

Action Bases

And yea I'd recommend these. they are good as long as you don't handle them too much, much like you'd do with the rest of the hobby. All about being delicate:)

Obelisk ze Tormentor 2012-12-15 08:54

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Originally Posted by Skye629 (Post 4475597)
Oh on another note:

What are those clear stands that some gunpla reviewers use called? The ones which looks like glass with multiple bend joints, anyone know what they are called?

If so would anyone recommend them?

How much are they?

Are they better than Bandai's action bases?

Did you mean this kind of stand?:

http://tokyo-hunter.com/sites/defaul...076361_005.jpg

If it is, then they aren't really for Model kits but for Robot Damashii (RD). I believe they're called Damashii Stage (or Spirit Stage). You can get them separately from the RDs. IIRC Damashii Stage can be used for HG kits (and maybe RGs too?).

The usual price is about $15-18 or around 1000 yen (also depends on where you buy).

It's not necessarily better than Bandai's action bases. It's up to your taste.

Here's one example and an HLJ link.

suiton629 2012-12-15 10:24

What do you guys suggest that I get?
Right now I have:

High Grade, 1/144
Exia Repair 2
Avalanche Dash Exia
0 Gundam
0 Gundam (Roll Out )
Reborns Gundam
1.5 Gundam

Master Grade, 1/100
Exia
Exia Ignition Mode
Exia (Trans-Am)
00 Raiser
00 Raiser (Trans-Am)
00 Raiser 7 Sword G
00 Qan[T] --> i have 2; 1 to display in Quantum Burst Mode
Age-1 Normal
Age-1 Titus
Age-1 Sparrow
Age-2 Normal
Age-2 Darkhound

No Grade, 1/100
Exia Roll Out Colors
Avalanche Exia

I'm going to sell the RG Freedom, RG Aile Strike, and RG Skygrasper online or do a trade. But from what I have, what do you guys suggest I get?

firefox 2012-12-15 10:27

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...i-NuGundam.jpg

Just finished MG Hi-Nu Gundam :)

It's a great looking kit, but it's very fragile when i compare it to the MG strike noir i recently built. I'm almost afraid to chang it's position.



Just got word my MG Nu gundam 2.0 is ready to ship, but i'm gonna stock it in the closet till after 1/144 HG 7th gundam FA and 1/100 MG AGE-1 Normal

suiton629 2012-12-15 10:30

MG Nu Gundam 2.0? You mean the Ver. Ka right? LOL

firefox 2012-12-15 10:31

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Originally Posted by suiton629 (Post 4475805)
What do you guys suggest that I get?
Right now I have:

High Grade, 1/144
Exia Repair 2
Avalanche Dash Exia
0 Gundam
0 Gundam (Roll Out )
Reborns Gundam
1.5 Gundam

Master Grade, 1/100
Exia
Exia Ignition Mode
Exia (Trans-Am)
00 Raiser
00 Raiser (Trans-Am)
00 Raiser 7 Sword G
00 Qan[T] --> i have 2; 1 to display in Quantum Burst Mode
Age-1 Normal
Age-1 Titus
Age-1 Sparrow
Age-2 Normal
Age-2 Darkhound

No Grade, 1/100
Exia Roll Out Colors
Avalanche Exia

I'm going to sell the RG Freedom, RG Aile Strike, and RG Skygrasper online or do a trade. But from what I have, what do you guys suggest I get?

MG GN-X :D, reminds me of you in a weird way :D

suiton629 2012-12-15 10:33

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Originally Posted by firefox (Post 4475813)
MG GN-X :D, reminds me of you in a weird way :D

:confused:
And that's really not something I would buy. I get leads & variations of leads... =D

~Destiny~ 2012-12-15 11:30

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Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor (Post 4475747)
Did you mean this kind of stand?:



If it is, then they aren't really for Model kits but for Robot Damashii (RD). I believe they're called Damashii Stage (or Spirit Stage). You can get them separately from the RDs. IIRC Damashii Stage can be used for HG kits (and maybe RGs too?).

The usual price is about $15-18 or around 1000 yen (also depends on where you buy).

It's not necessarily better than Bandai's action bases. It's up to your taste.


Here's one example and an HLJ link.

I think they're as good as action bases if not better. If you ever feel a joint is too loose, you could always tighten the screws. Plus they come in boxes of threes. :D

Skye629 2012-12-15 17:37

I found what I was talking about on Z's site

http://gunpla-inochi.com/tools/display-stands/

Its the Hasegawa one, anyone know where I can find those?


As for the Damashii stands do you know if they have any connectors which work with HG kits?

And thanks guys for all the suggestions ^^

Skye629 2012-12-15 17:43

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Originally Posted by suiton629 (Post 4475805)
What do you guys suggest that I get?
Right now I have:

High Grade, 1/144
Exia Repair 2
Avalanche Dash Exia
0 Gundam
0 Gundam (Roll Out )
Reborns Gundam
1.5 Gundam

Master Grade, 1/100
Exia
Exia Ignition Mode
Exia (Trans-Am)
00 Raiser
00 Raiser (Trans-Am)
00 Raiser 7 Sword G
00 Qan[T] --> i have 2; 1 to display in Quantum Burst Mode
Age-1 Normal
Age-1 Titus
Age-1 Sparrow
Age-2 Normal
Age-2 Darkhound

No Grade, 1/100
Exia Roll Out Colors
Avalanche Exia

I'm going to sell the RG Freedom, RG Aile Strike, and RG Skygrasper online or do a trade. But from what I have, what do you guys suggest I get?

Please elaborate on what scale you prefer the most

From what I know of you I suggest you get the HG 00 and AGE line kits as those designs seem to be your preference


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