Lucky Star - Episode 03 Discussion / Poll
 

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About the ED for this episode...

Hirano sings that in her more natural tone. I wonder will we see a full version of that should she choose to release an album in the future.

KyoAni Trademark Spotted :-

Kagami fanservice in this Ep.

Just to clarify, Sorega Ai Deshou is licensed out by Flight Master. I actually really like the song in Super Robot Wars W. They probably are going to do new songs from now on since I bet people they knew people were going to be chaffing at all the older music.

Just finished watching it... another great ep. Apart from the reference in the ED karaoke song, there is also...
It's too bad my knowledge of Japanese isn't quite good enough to understand everything, but this ep was certainly on par with ep 2 in terms of jokes, IMHO.

Ep 3 is 95% Konata X Kagami. Of course, Kagami suffers most of the recieving end of jokes in this Ep.

PS :- Konata p0wnz Kagami in Quiz and Puzzle Games, surprisingly. But not by cheating......

PSS :- Will we see a full version of God Knows as the ED in the future ? God Knows.

I'd be willing to bet its next episode. Then Lost My Music, Then Hare Hare Yukai, Then Bouken Deshou Deshou, Then the Kanon Theme, Then the Kanon ending, Then the Air ending, Then the Full Metal Panic Second Raid Opening, Then the last episode will probably advertise the Clannad Theme. I'm pretty sure they are done with the old themes from metal hero shows and are just going to advertise the older shows they worked on now. My gut tells me so.

Mind telling me if the Quiz and Puzzle Game is one of those arcade machines with limited questions, or Quiz and Puzzle Game about stuff she digs.

And wait.... since when is fanservice a Kyoto Animation trademark and since when do they really engage in it to a degree that makes them famous for it. I'd have to say they seem to be on the lower end of the fanservice stick when it comes to animation companies. That doesn't say it isn't probably going to probably make my day depending on what it is. Loli(ish?) fanservice Huzzah!

I'm not sure if you could really call that fanservice though... only her shoulders + bra straps are visible...

I'm sure a few fans will drool to that nontheless...:heh:

I am almost can't wait :love:.

That's about as much fanservice as we are liable to get out of Kyoto Animation. Even Haruhi just barely had that cave scene and the bunny suit which never really seemed to show above or below the waistline. I wonder if Key's low ecchi count for games style has rubbed off on their partners style of animation. If there is much fanservice in Fumoffu and Second Raid, which I haven't started yet, I'm willing to bet a fair bit it was in one of the episodes that was written and directed by one of the three or so other companies involved.

A few new songs in the ED would be okay... but part of the charm of the very old themes Kona sings is:
1) they're obscure to most viewers (otaku win)
2) they're terrible and she sings them so wonderfully terribly

I'm not sure what "trademark KyoAni fanservice" means either..... A bare-shouldered Kagami (bra/straps) is pretty tasteful if thats what she's doing (changing shirts, etc) -- no more than Nayuki doing the same in Kanon. Basically tasteful, in context, and normally what people do: is *that* "Kyoani fanservice"?
I'm beginning to think the term "fan service" has completely lost its original meaning.... at some point the *existence* of the series is fanservice, eh?

There is not much fan service in every episode of FMP:F or FMP TSR, but in certain episodes there is loads of it. In the first five minutes of the FMP TSR OVA for example, we get to see Tessa in underwear and under the shower (and they show about as much as they can without turning FMP into soft-hentai or something)... so KyoAni is definitely not shy of fan service.

But we're getting off-topic here, this thread is about Lucky Star ep 3 :)

boy this is jut one of those series where you cant understand the cracks without the subs =.= so skipping ahead to the end song ~

looking forward to watching this ;)

You mean this one?

Eh, still don't consider the FMP adaptation to be written entirely by Kyoto Animation, but they didn't refuse to animate the scenes so I guess it's true they aren't shy about it. If they were the chief director who is from Kyoto Animation and Shoji Gatoh would have turned it down. As I said I'm willing to bet those certain episodes are the ones written by the other Film Partner companies.

Back on topic. Now what's this scene in the spoiler tag here. I don't see any fanservice or a trademark there. Vexx also mentioned the term losing its original meaning which I agree with. In its original context Fanservice is something that the companies do to please fans and win easy support without having much bearing on the important details of the series (Which in Kyoto Animations case would almost be their Modus Operandi from the get go since they frequently have poll asking what people want them to do next for a series. I find they customize their shows very much to their bases tastes so as to be fan pleasing throughout. It's a no fail strategy really). Anyway for the traditional meaning of fanservice, even something such as the shiny glint on the metal of a mecha that is deliberately made apparent to the audience would qualify as fanservice. Rie Kugimiya's trademark "Urasai" or "Spaz Freak" would also be her doing fan service for her fans. The vast majority of it though has been showing skin so its come to refer to that exclusively these days. I unfortunately haven't seen episode 3 yet so I can't comment on the "fanservice" throughout, but if that spoiler pic is it, I have no idea what they are doing other than showing the back of a characters head.

I know, rather unnecessary, but I love this OP:




I dare you not to loop this one :D .

Meh. I prefer the off vocal version in Super Robot Wars W. The singer just gets a bit too nasalish for my tastes in certain parts of the song. I've never been a big fan of any of the songs featured in series Kyoto Animation has animated, they are aimed at a very specific group that doesn't include me. I wish I could upload a clip of the version I'm talking about, but its a DS game.

Once again though a theme song is overshadowing the actual episode which is what this topic is here to discuss. I'd ask if this could possibly be moved to the music discussion forum and discussion pertaining to music might be discussed there exclusively if possible. What do the moderators say?

Okay, I'm hooked. I liked the "Good Job," Konata's face coming closer and closer to Kagami and the viewer, Konata pwning at even a quiz game (questions not shown, but it was Kagami's game and she expected to win), and Aaya's beautiful singing in the ED. I think she'd probably had enough of singling badly and had to do a good one. (She likes Avril, but I like her singing softer songs better than rock.) I expect we'll hear others singing now, since didn't they say at the end of the first episode that Kona-chan grabbed the first three songs? And there isn't the least doubt that this ED will show up in full version on a CD. I'd be shocked if there weren't character CDs for this show.

Oops. Once again, you're right.

Aye.. Kona has done her 3 songs now...its likely we'll hear each of the characters do a few songs in various off/on keys.

Makes me wonder what the others like to hear (I suspect Miyuki will do more anime songs since she liked what Kona was singing .... Kagami is a big question mark as is her sister).

I just realized the construction of Kagami's eyes remind me of the way Azumanga's Sakaki's eyes are drawn. Not a cultural reference... just an eye structure similarity. Its probably why I keep glancing at her rather than just obsessing on Kona :)

This is one case where the "ED" is really part of the show.... so it may continue to be appropriate to at least discuss it in that context :)

Kagami's eyes do add to her "I'm smart" look, which made seeing her in kawaii mode much more disturbing :heh: .

Once again, heavy dialogue, which means I'll just rewatch it for the cute imagery (until subs come out)

Mmh... If they show more flustered Kagami images, I'm afraid I'll have to jump from the Konata wagon to Skane's Kagami Fan Wagon :p .

I would guess Miyuki would give us a bunch of kids show renditions. Something along the lines of Candy Candy or Doraemon. Kagami is an unknown. I had never thought that maybe each of the characters will get a turn, but now it seems obvious to me.

ill just stick both of the wagons together with super glue if need be :p but i do think that kagami has this Ojo thing going on (just look at the way she walks in the OP :D)
tsukasa would probably follow the crowd while kagami would be forced to sing what kona picks for her :heh:

What was surprising is that Kona gave advice on how to send cards and how to do girl's stuff like do hair in a ponytail. You'd think she wouldn't be into that. I think it surprised Kagami, too, given the look of shock on her face.

For those of us not as much in the know... what series is this the OP to?

Full Metal Panic: Fumoffu. The very first full animated TV series credited to Kyoto Animation, I believe. Good humor series, lol.

Whoo, never heard of that, I'm gonna check this OVA out for sure. :D

As for Lucky Star, the second episode was kinda tough on me without subtitles, I didn't quite get everything, so this time I'll go for the first subbed version instead of the raw.
In general I'm just not otaku enough for a lot of the references though, but oh well... :heh:

Partially credited actually. Let's not forget Gonzo's involvement along with Sunrise and....er Master of Entertaiment (actually let's forget that one). Yes even FMP Fummofu and Second Raid still had Gonzo staff in writing and directing postions, although not chief director. The first true series that can be fully credited to Kyoto Animation is Air.

Am I the only one who recognized Konata's reference to "Wedding Peach" when they were talking about wedding dresses ("Yumega Ippai, Furil ippai~," Angel Salvia, Angel Daisy) wwww

Hahaha, full of pwning punchlines by Kona-chan, and an amazing Hirano to boost. I can't wait till subs are out to see how much I've lost.

OMG, OMG! I cannot believe I missed that! That was one of my favorite shows, too (yeah, I'm a guy, and I love "Wedding Peach, " so sue me:heh:)

Anyway, heavy on the dialog side, so I'll have to post my thoughts until after the subs come out. Of what I did understand was:
Edit: Hm... never seen FMP; didn't me leave a good first impression and I dropped it. Wonder if that was a bad idea.... As Nemo_N says, I can't stop from looping it :heh:

As expected, humour really is better when one knows all the injokes. The previous two episodes were pretty amusing for me, but this one was hilarious. When the PPD reference appeared, I just about fell out of my chair laughing. I'd imagine that if it were some other anime that I haven't seen, the humour there would have been tepid at best.

Similarly, I was kind of ambivalent about the previous two "ending songs", but when I heard the opening chords to this one, I had this big stupid grin on my face.

Lots of dialogue here, as usual. I'll wait for the subs to really understand it, but the references I did get were well worth the price of admission.

It is only to my regret that none of them said the following,

"PONY." :heh:

Already made two new Kagami avatars (three actually, but I decided to reject the first one due to lack of quality), with more on the way. :D

Cheers.

Does anyone think the quiz game I hear about from this episode might have anything to do with advertising this. I think the premise is you square of against one of the characters in a quiz/puzzle duel answering impossible questions with answers like these.

Amazing.

The Ponytail Association Of Japan do exist.

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%...83%BC%E3%83%AB

And 7th of July is really Ponytail Day in Japan.

Flora or Bianca. Flora or Bianca.
:sad:

I couldn't help laughing as soon as I heard Konata making that referrence.
Even more so, when Kagami knew the game it was from. :LOL:

I agree that Kagami kinda looked like a warrior, but I also think she's the one that looked best with a ponytail.

After that talk of "love", I wonder how she'd get along with Papillon? (Busou Renkin).

I like how they turn useful knowledge into humor like posting to get into lucky draws, twins, june wedding and etc.

This is a Konata and Kagami episode, the two of em really made the humor works for me, more so than Miyuki or Tsukasa.