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SNT1 2006-08-25 14:51

would you rather have the I-Justice handled the same way as the S-Freedom 1/100? <.< I'd take the lesser of two evils

DarkWarrior 2006-08-25 15:55

The 1/100 Strike Freedom is horrible, but it's not like the team behind it made it suck on purpose. I find it excusable for that reason. Maybe they were extremely rushed? Who knows.

On the other hand, Beecraft obviously changed the size of the beam boomerang on purpose. It wasn't a mistake; for some reason they thought doubling the size was a good idea. Same thing with the large beam cannons. Making some proportional adjustments here and there to make the model look better is acceptable, but changing the design too much is not. IMHO anyways.

M_Flores 2006-08-25 19:38

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Originally Posted by DarkWarrior
The 1/100 Strike Freedom is horrible, but it's not like the team behind it made it suck on purpose. I find it excusable for that reason. Maybe they were extremely rushed? Who knows.

On the other hand, Beecraft obviously changed the size of the beam boomerang on purpose. It wasn't a mistake; for some reason they thought doubling the size was a good idea. Same thing with the large beam cannons. Making some proportional adjustments here and there to make the model look better is acceptable, but changing the design too much is not. IMHO anyways.

Yeah, the beam boomerang is that way because it makes it easier to take out if it has that part sticking out of it. However, I liked the size of the Fortis cannons as they are - seems more beefier and says that Justice doesnt suck so much in ranged combat.

theOtherGuy 2006-08-25 19:43

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Originally Posted by Tak
It is an extended line of model kits not related to the main story (the non-SD porportional ones). Like MSV. It doesn't have a serie by itself. Its still within the Ma-Ei-Den universe, but not directly related.

Oh, speaking of models, I recently purchased

http://www.hlj.com/product/BAN929450

http://www.hlj.com/product/BAN926794

- Tak (I not have no space to put my kits!)

I'd get those too...but, not enough $$. :upset:

LightningZERO 2006-08-25 23:12

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Originally Posted by SNT1
I just hope it doesnt have construction horrors like that of the MG F91...

What do you mean by constructions horrors?

SNT1 2006-08-26 00:26

the kneecap part is really tough to slide down the leg (to the point you have to file down the inner kneecap part), at least thats what I keep hearing (reading) on mahq forums and dalong.net images.

Meehlimo 2006-08-27 02:20

Here are some of my many models and the 2 stargazer models are in there among the mess lol have a look if you feel curious. http://s46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...hlimo/Gundams/

wavehawk 2006-08-27 03:01

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Originally Posted by SNT1
the kneecap part is really tough to slide down the leg (to the point you have to file down the inner kneecap part), at least thats what I keep hearing (reading) on mahq forums and dalong.net images.

- If you call a trifle as minor as that a construction horror, you haven't the will nor the skill to be a true Gunpla modeler, little grasshopper. :D

SNT1 2006-08-27 05:00

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- If you call a trifle as minor as that a construction horror, you haven't the will nor the skill to be a true Gunpla modeler, little grasshopper.
maybe I should just cry myself to a little hole now.

/sarcasm

nightbringer360 2006-08-27 07:41

Indeed.

Try putting together an assembly, and then realising that you'd forgotten to put in some part after paint it and all, and then having to pry it apart gently so that you don't break the assembled pieces, before reassembling.

I ran into that at least three times while doing my PG Strike (Pictures to follow).

theOtherGuy 2006-08-27 13:38

Isn't that why you're "suppose" to slice of a portion of the peg? (I have yet to try it).

SNT1 2006-08-27 13:59

its not a peg and hole construction---its a hollow kneecap armor slid down the knee joint. check dalong.net's images on thr MG F91.... what I see people are doing to counter this is by either filing down the knee joint to thin it down, or filing the insides of the kneecap armor.

dj898 2006-08-27 20:24

have a look here for dalong's comment on F91 kit with the fitting issue

http://old.rfdh.com/dal67/mg/m91/m91_j.htm#notice

lazyfr3ak 2006-08-28 18:46

i know that there is a Savior Gundam dat Gunpla is releasing soon.... But check out this guy's MG version, kitbashing several MG gundam parts!!!!!!
http://g-trance.hobby-web.net/top.frame.html

Tak 2006-08-28 20:47

^ What is more amazing is the fact that he built that MG Saviour off a MG Freedom. Now that is some mad conversion! Gotta give 'em props.

- Tak

dj898 2006-08-28 20:52

MG Freedom is used for virtually all of the conversion works nowadays

I've even seen someone used MG Freedom to convert 1/100 Dragnor-1 Custom

Tak 2006-08-28 21:11

^ No kidding, that is why I have purchased three MG Freedoms a while ago (before they ran out of stock! As they are now!) for that exclusive purpose :)

- Tak

Vallen Chaos Valiant 2006-08-28 21:55

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Originally Posted by Tak
^ No kidding, that is why I have purchased three MG Freedoms a while ago (before they ran out of stock! As they are now!) for that exclusive purpose :)

- Tak

Irony of ironies...

What if Bandai mistakens this brisk sales of Freedom Gundam as proof that there is no market to design/produce/sell the other Master grades, like Infinite Justice?

When in reality, MG Freedom is selling well because there is a lack of other CE Gundam model varieties, and as such people were forced to make their own via the Freedom Gundam kits?:heh: :eyespin:

Tak 2006-08-28 22:27

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Originally Posted by Vallen Chaos Valiant
Irony of ironies...

What if Bandai mistakens this brisk sales of Freedom Gundam as proof that there is no market to design/produce/sell the other Master grades, like Infinite Justice?

When in reality, MG Freedom is selling well because there is a lack of other CE Gundam model varieties, and as such people were forced to make their own via the Freedom Gundam kits?:heh: :eyespin:

Infinite Justice doesn't have a Master Grade kit yet :( There are, however, MG Aile Strike and Strike Rouge (I own both), but they aren't as popular :(

Still, the lack of other CE MG kits forced people to search for alternatives, which by the way, is what allowed so much creativity (and some mad conversion work) to be seen. Not entirely a bad prospect, really.

- Tak

Vallen Chaos Valiant 2006-08-28 22:32

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Originally Posted by Tak
Infinite Justice don't have a Master Grade kit yet :( =
- Tak

I know. That's why I am saying it might be ironic that IJ might be prevented from being released due to brisk Freedom sales. The Marketing people might be fooled into believing Freedom is the only MS that sell:heh:

M_Flores 2006-08-28 22:43

They should release an MG STRIKE FREEDOM, for people like me who are too lazy and cheap to make/buy my own conversion and build one from an MG FREEDOM.

Vallen Chaos Valiant 2006-08-28 22:49

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Originally Posted by M_Flores
They should release an MG STRIKE FREEDOM, for people like me who are too lazy and cheap to make/buy my own conversion and build one from an MG FREEDOM.

My friend want a SF, but she didn't like the chest cannon...:heh:

DarkWarrior 2006-08-28 23:00

At this point, I'll be happy if any MS from Destiny got a MG version. Strike IWSP is just Bandai milking the Strike mold.. nothing more. Well, at least Bandai is releasing some 1/100s.. can't complain about that.

OmegaZEROCustom 2006-08-28 23:03

5The one advantage to them doing all these UC MG units is eventiually, someday, they'll run out of UC MG's to make, and aside from Ver. 2.0's, which I don't think too many need, once they run out, thats it (barring a new UC show going on the air). Eventully they'll have to start looking toward X, Turn A, Wing, G and CE-era stuff. Hell, G alone could net them a LOT of new MG kits assuming they went the UC route and made MG's of any uint they could. X would be a good series to use too, if only for the Gundam X being able to be a remold between the GX Satellite Cannon and GX Divider....just mold the cannon and the Divider parts on their own runners and use the main body as a remold. Hell, make some minor tweaks to the Zaku MG's, maybe even a 2.0-esque rendition and sell them as Borjarnon units from Turn A.

Ugh, the more people bring up the lack of AU MG kits, the more I realize how many great suits there are still out there that haven't gotten MG treatments yet.

Hatter 2006-08-28 23:24

Has anyone heard any rumours of a new MG Char's Zaku kit using the new frame construction? I've been itching to put together a 1:100 UC Zaku. Looking through the selection, though, it looks like there haven't been that many releases since the '90s. From what I've seen, the 1:100 MG MS-06 Zaku II F2 Zeon Version seems to be the most current Zaku out there. I like it, except that I was hoping to do Char's Zaku first. I could paint this one in his colours, I suppose, but it wouldn't be the same.

theOtherGuy 2006-08-29 00:26

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Originally Posted by M_Flores
They should release an MG STRIKE FREEDOM, for people like me who are too lazy and cheap to make/buy my own conversion and build one from an MG FREEDOM.

Actually...if anything, I bet Bandai will release some kind of resin Strike Freedom kit. I mean, look at the HGUC. We had the Powered GM Conversion Kit before the HGUC... :mad:

SNT1 2006-08-29 00:46

Strike Freedom is too popular to NOT be made into MG....i mean, powered GM's popularity compared to S-Freedom? :heh: i'm thinking around either GSD SE IV to SEED movie time it will be released?

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5The one advantage to them doing all these UC MG units is eventiually, someday, they'll run out of UC MG's to make, and aside from Ver. 2.0's, which I don't think too many need, once they run out, thats it (barring a new UC show going on the air).
dont hold your breath... a lot (i mean A HELLA LOT) of 0080 mechas are due with their MG for a long time now, gerbera tetra is still not on, they could also test the waters with AoZ, a possibilty of a Zak 2.0 with recolors galore, the Jagd Dogas and the Jegans and geara dogas, and then post CCA stuff that they can exploit, and MS igloo....i could go on and on and on...

OmegaZEROCustom 2006-08-29 03:00

Oh I know that, it's just that eventually, they'll run out of suits for MG releases that come from UC. It might take 25 years, but someday they will run out, and of course, this only refers to existing UC stuff. Either we'll get more UC shows, pushing off the AU stuff, or in the meantime, we'll get so many AU's that we will never see the majority of AU releases because there will be another 25 years worth of AU stuff to push out.

I know we are pretty screwed no matter what as far as seeing a lot of the AU grunts and stuff but one can hope.

Vallen Chaos Valiant 2006-08-29 03:21

What I am dreaming about, is future technology might permit a single piece of machinery to produce 30~40 different types of mobile suit kits, and that it would not require a large investment from Bandai to have a new kit added in to the catalogue.

If it's accheived, then Bandai don't need to make ten thousand kits at a time to be profitable... Then Bandai can release every single kit they can dream up, and thus gain profits from the Long Tail.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_tail

But still, it's just a dream...:heh:

Meehlimo 2006-08-29 03:53

Wow I take it no one even bothered to look at my models......

duotiga 2006-08-29 07:25

me still wish for MG V2 Assault Buster :D

SNT1 2006-08-29 08:48

the V2AB is a matter of "when", now that they have breached the 15m MS world, and that is good :D we might see Victory first though...

JackRydden224 2006-08-29 10:29

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Originally Posted by SNT1
Strike Freedom is too popular to NOT be made into MG....i mean, powered GM's popularity compared to S-Freedom? :heh: i'm thinking around either GSD SE IV to SEED movie time it will be released?



dont hold your breath... a lot (i mean A HELLA LOT) of 0080 mechas are due with their MG for a long time now, gerbera tetra is still not on, they could also test the waters with AoZ, a possibilty of a Zak 2.0 with recolors galore, the Jagd Dogas and the Jegans and geara dogas, and then post CCA stuff that they can exploit, and MS igloo....i could go on and on and on...

I would not be surprised if we see MG Hazels. It's HGUC forms seems to be very popular and I think it has reached a point where people knows about it.

If they ever release a MG Gerbera Tetra I hope it comes with extra parts to convert it into GP04 :D

There a lot of MS that deserves the MG treatment from CCA. Say a Nu-HWS wouldn't be all that hard for bandai. All they would need to do is make the armors to fit Nu...

theOtherGuy 2006-08-29 12:30

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Originally Posted by duotiga
me still wish for MG V2 Assault Buster :D

I'd love that too...but, I think, the gold on it might look pretty bad (as of any gold)?

SNT1 2006-08-29 12:56

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If they ever release a MG Gerbera Tetra I hope it comes with extra parts to convert it into GP04
i wouldnt count on it. lol14000yenbclubconvokit.
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I'd love that too...but, I think, the gold on it might look pretty bad (as of any gold)?
knowing bandai, they will put some plated gold there, and jack it up 1.5x the supposed price (think hyakushiki,akatsuki,goldframe amatsu)...then prolly release a nonplated version (they can prolly sell the V2, then V2A, then V2B and lastly V2AB as separate releases, with V2A having the plated parts and V2AB having the non-plated parts)...pure speculation

AlphaDragoon 2006-08-29 15:34

Man, those MG Strike Freedom/Saviour models were nice...

I'm still waiting on someone to model an SF with the WoL (since apparently according to Stargazer that's what they are), that would look awesome.

duotiga 2006-08-29 18:55

Scans from Oct' 06 Dengeki Hobby Magazine

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/4994/ets9.jpg
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/5381/dak0.jpg
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/3175/cng9.jpg
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/6739/bus5.jpg
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/1962/auc1.jpg

frm Toys Daily

seems like Beecraft will be designing the 1/100 Destiny series.....

Tak 2006-08-29 19:18

Well, for something slightely unorthodox and unprecedented, I purchased a semi-difficult-to-find:

http://gunpla-web.hp.infoseek.co.jp/mg-aile-strike.htm

Master Grade Aile Strike, at a... cellphone store (of all places)... today for $30 since the owner didn't know what to do with it... I thought that was a pretty good deal.

- Tak (Talk about a strike of luck)

DarkWarrior 2006-08-29 19:36

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Originally Posted by duotiga

Wow, BeeCraft has struck again, this time having fun with Saviour. :twitch: Wasn't I-Justice enough for them? I really don't like the new wings, and the curved shoulder vents look weird. Damn you BeeCraft, what did you do to my favorite MS from GSD! :frustrated:

Yes, I'm overreacting, but I was really hoping that they'd stick more to the lineart.

Silent Soldier 2006-08-29 19:40

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Originally Posted by Tak
Well, for something slightely unorthodox and unprecedented, I purchased a semi-difficult-to-find:

http://gunpla-web.hp.infoseek.co.jp/mg-aile-strike.htm

Master Grade Aile Strike, at a... cellphone store... today for $30 since the owner didn't know what to do with it... I thought that was a pretty good deal.

- Tak (Talk about a strike of luck)

That's a good deal but why did a cellphone store owner have a Master Grade Aile Strike in the first place. :heh:


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