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xris 2006-05-01 06:39

Higurashi Q & A
 
This thread is for those with questions about the Higurashi no Naku Koroni anime, game and manga. Please keep discussion about episodes in the relevant threads, the purpose of this thread is to ask questions that can actually be answered as facts from the anime, game or manga.

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kj1980 2006-05-01 07:52

Please read the Higurashi no Naku Koro ni wikipedia article that has been made before you ask questions. I made the the wikipedia article as detailed as I can which may answer your questions beforehand.

Brief rundown of the arcs and chapters in sequential order for quick reference in the future:

Higurashi no Naku Koro ni ("Question" arc)
  • Onikakushi-hen
  • Watanagashi-hen
  • Tatarigoroshi-hen
  • Himatsubushi-hen

Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Kai ("Answer" arc)
  • Meakashi-hen
  • Tsumihoroboshi-hen (the TV anime will go up to here)
  • Minagoroshi-hen
  • Matsuribayashi-hen

EDIT: Also, I'm going to try to keep this FAQ section as clean as possible, so I will be moving some irrelevant posts to the correct thread and what not from time to time.

EDIT2:
Please do not ask incessant questions regarding the availability of an English patch of the original doujin game version of Higurashi no Naku Koro ni. Questions like these pop up everytime an anime based on a game comes along, and the answer is the same all over: little to no one in the English speaking world had an interest in this game before it aired, so there exists no such thing.

By the time it does get translated several months from now, there will be another game-based anime that will come along and people ask the same question again for that title. By that time, people would've already finished watching the other show and they'll lose interest. I can already forsee people saying the exact same question when Tsuyokiss or Yoake Mae Yori Ruri Iro Na starts airing. It's the same cycle over and over.

If you want to play the game, BUY it and play through it with a Japanese dictionary on hand. Besides, Higurashi no Naku Koro ni isn't that expensive like an ero-game or consumer game anyway. If you can spare 1500 yen (plus shipping) you can get the whole question arc (Onikakushi-hen~Himatsubushi-hen) in one disc. And if you can spare another 1000 yen (plus shipping), you can get the answer arc that is out right now (Meakashi-hen~Minagoroshi-hen) in one disc as well.

SpaceDrake 2006-05-01 13:55

Question!

Is it possible that the show could "squish" all the answers into two answer arcs? The show will be ending after the 8th chapter of the game is released, after all, right? Has anything been said to this effect?

kj1980 2006-05-01 14:02

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Originally Posted by SpaceDrake
Question!

Is it possible that the show could "squish" all the answers into two answer arcs? The show will be ending after the 8th chapter of the game is released, after all, right? Has anything been said to this effect?

No one knows, and anime production is usually several weeks ahead of airing. So the anime could actually be 80% finished in production phase even before the 8th and final chapter goes on sale at this summer's Comike. Obviously, that wouldn't be possible unless Ryukishi07 spilled the beans to the anime staff - which is highly unlikely as the anime production process is tight on schedule to begin with.

SpaceDrake 2006-05-01 14:08

Question number two, yarr.

Are there any known English translations of the Higurashi game floating around out there? Fan translations, official ones, etc?

Guido 2006-05-01 14:17

Given the tremendous and uproar success Higurashi no Naku Koroni, the game, among the fan players in Japan has amassed, do the game's creator, Ryukishi07, would encourage themselves to come up with a sequel to the game in an unknown future?

I'm neither implying nor assuming that scenario could bound to happen.

I already read thoroughly the Wikipedia article.

Also, I know that there's still one more game scenario to be released in Japan by August, and that the game will be ported to the PS2 consumer port.

My aforementioned question was just a hypothetically one.

kj1980 2006-05-01 14:20

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Originally Posted by SpaceDrake
Question number two, yarr.

Are there any known English translations of the Higurashi game floating around out there? Fan translations, official ones, etc?

I wouldn't know, and most likely not. Hey, there was practically no interest in this game in the English speaking world. Perhaps Chinese ones exist. I wouldn't know. My best bet is to buy the game at cdjapan or what not, and do your best with a Japanese dictionary at hand.

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Originally Posted by Guido
Given the tremendous and uproar success Higurashi no Naku Koroni, the game, among the fan players in Japan has amassed, do the game's creator, Ryukishi07, would encourage themselves to come up with a sequel to the game in an unknown future?

I'm neither implying nor assuming that scenario could bound to happen.

I already read thoroughly the Wikipedia article.

Also, I know that there's still one more game scenario to be released in Japan by August, and that the game will be ported to the PS2 consumer port.

My aforementioned question was just a hypothetically one.

Nothing has been mentioned.

Fighter747 2006-05-03 17:40

I remember from several posts that all these arcs are somewhat independent of each other, yet at the same time exists on at the same time. Is this game's storyline simulating the Butterfly Effect?

Freak Of Nature 2006-05-03 18:35

A question and an observation-cum-question:

1) If the show is "only" going to go to Tsumihoroboshi-hen, then we're not going to get the full answer, are we?

2) If we were to get the answer, wouldn't this be counterproductive, since it would spoil the game and conceivably affect sales? So, honestly speaking, can't we expect that the anime will peter out into uncertainty?

justsomeguy 2006-05-03 18:52

I know the last chapter has not been released yet, but is it conceivable for Minagoroshi-hen and Matsuribayashi-hen to contain enough material for a Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Kai show, even if that would only be ~13 eps? Does Minagoroshi-hen contain enough for, say 6 episodes?
I would hate for the show to just end at an unfulfilling ending instead of a "best" ending.

kj1980 2006-05-03 18:54

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Originally Posted by Fighter747
I remember from several posts that all these arcs are somewhat independent of each other, yet at the same time exists on at the same time. Is this game's storyline simulating the Butterfly Effect?

uh...no.

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Originally Posted by Freak Of Nature
A question and an observation-cum-question:

1) If the show is "only" going to go to Tsumihoroboshi-hen, then we're not going to get the full answer, are we?

No you won't, but you will come as close as you get to getting the answer. By that time, you'll have everything you need to know about what was going on behind Onikakushi and Watanagashi.

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2) If we were to get the answer, wouldn't this be counterproductive, since it would spoil the game and conceivably affect sales? So, honestly speaking, can't we expect that the anime will peter out into uncertainty?
Not really. The majority of people who are watching this over here are otakus who have played the game already. And people who haven't played the game, well, they are otakus too so it's pretty easy for them to go to the nearest Toranoana or doujin shops and grab a copy if it seems interesting. What about the rest? Well, normal people don't watch anime shows airing on an obscure UHF channel past midnight.

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Originally Posted by justsomeguy
I know the last chapter has not been released yet, but is it conceivable for Minagoroshi-hen and Matsuribayashi-hen to contain enough material for a Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Kai show, even if that would only be ~13 eps? Does Minagoroshi-hen contain enough for, say 6 episodes?
I would hate for the show to just end at an unfulfilling ending instead of a "best" ending.

Perhaps. I can't give you info on something that it not official. But I can say this: you'll definitely love the ending for Tsumihoroboshi-hen. I'm not saying any more than that - doing so will ruin the shock value.

FubaredByAnime 2006-05-03 21:45

Out of curiosity, is Frederica Bernkastel a real person? I googled for the name and all I came upon were Japanese websites, which I assume are talking about Higurashi.

Sushi-Y 2006-05-03 23:16

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Originally Posted by Freak Of Nature
1) If the show is "only" going to go to Tsumihoroboshi-hen, then we're not going to get the full answer, are we?

The way I see it, Minagoroshi-hen is either a hit or miss: It does reveal the "full answer" of the entire story (as opposed to the "partial truths" in Meakashi and Tsumihoroboshi), but while some people would be left pleasently surprised by the plot twists and the ultimate truth, for others, Minagoroshi-hen could mean a proverbial kick in the nuts (and no, I'm not going elaborate on what that means, read the spoilers in the game thread if you really want to know).

In comparison, the story and ending of Tsumihorobosh-hen is a relatively safe one. In fact, as long as the anime leave out Tsumihoroboshi-hen's final TIP "悪魔の脚本" (The Demon's Script), which isn't obtainable until after Tsumihoroboshi-hen is over, then Tsumihoroboshi-hen's ending would actually make a very good series finale. (Of course, if they really end the anime with Tsumihoroboshi's ending as-is, then that's a problem too, since without Minagoroshi-hen's "full answers", there will be more holes left in the mystery than a sponge).

(To explain a little bit more, the final TIP (Demon's Script) of Tsumihoroboshi provided a way for the story to continue on. Without that TIP, the story of Higurashi no Naku Koroni probably would've ended with Tsumihoroboshi)

In the end, I don't think they'll try to change the story to make up an original ending or anything. Most likely, they'll just show the anime as it is, and if you want to find out the real truth (fill up the sponge holes), you'll just going to have to buy the game.

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Originally Posted by Freak Of Nature
2) If we were to get the answer, wouldn't this be counterproductive, since it would spoil the game and conceivably affect sales? So, honestly speaking, can't we expect that the anime will peter out into uncertainty?

Like I mentioned above, I don't think the "real truth" will be revealed in the anime at all. By the end of Tsumihoroboshi, a lot of things will be cleared up, but it's still one step short of the "real truth".

Honestly, I don't know what they're going to do with the ending (so don't take what I said above too seriously). The only suggestion I can give is to just enjoy the story for what it is without thinking too much.

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Originally Posted by FubaredByAnime
Out of curiosity, is Frederica Bernkastel a real person? I googled for the name and all I came upon were Japanese websites, which I assume are talking about Higurashi.

No, she's not. Frederica Bernkastel is kind of a mysterious existence within the story of Higurashi. The only time her name appears is at the beginning of every new chapter (in the game), when one of her poems is displayed. The poem themselves all elude to the truth natures behind each chapter. Quite an artistic touch.

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Originally Posted by justsomeguy
I know the last chapter has not been released yet, but is it conceivable for Minagoroshi-hen and Matsuribayashi-hen to contain enough material for a Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Kai show, even if that would only be ~13 eps? Does Minagoroshi-hen contain enough for, say 6 episodes?
I would hate for the show to just end at an unfulfilling ending instead of a "best" ending.

Matsuribayashi isn't out yet, so I can't say anything about that.
Minagoroshi, on the other hand, probably does have enough contents to fill 6 episodes (then again, at 4 episodes, Onikakushi-hen was already pretty rushed, and it's one of the shortest chapters).

I'm not holding my breath for a second season based on only these last two chapters, but hey, you never know.

FubaredByAnime 2006-05-03 23:39

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Originally Posted by Sushi-Y
No, she's not. Frederica Bernkastel is kind of a mysterious existence within the story of Higurashi. The only time her name appears is at the beginning of every new chapter (in the game), when one of her poems is displayed. The poem themselves all elude to the truth natures behind each chapter. Quite an artistic touch.

I'll assume the poems and her name are displayed in English in the game as KJ posted them. Thanks for the info.

Sushi-Y 2006-05-03 23:50

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Originally Posted by FubaredByAnime
I'll assume the poems and her name are displayed in English in the game as KJ posted them. Thanks for the info.

Her name is written in English(?) as "Frederica Bernkastel", but the poem themselves are in Japanese.

Here's a page that has all her(?) poems organized:
http://lab.vis.ne.jp/higurashi/poem.html

Then again, kj must be doing a good job if his translations fooled you into thinking that the poems were in English to begin with. :heh:

Lemonhead 2006-05-08 02:04

Is there anyway to label what tips come from what ep. or at least what chapter?

kj1980 2006-05-08 13:04

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Originally Posted by Lemonhead
Is there anyway to label what tips come from what ep. or at least what chapter?

Added relevant anime episode number in parenthesis for the TIPS.

Sindas 2006-05-08 14:13

Hi, I was surfing the net and came up with a small preview clip called Higurashi Motion Graphic vol.3 so after some research I found this web site:
Higurashi Motion Graphic
(I don't even know its real name since it's in Japanese :heh: )

Anyway, I found in the download section 3 preview clips of what seems to be Higurashi no Naku Koroni but with radically different graphics. Could anyone please tell me what it's all about? These movies seem very nice and I wonder if they can be acquired?

Sushi-Y 2006-05-08 22:00

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Originally Posted by Sindas
Hi, I was surfing the net and came up with a small preview clip called Higurashi Motion Graphic vol.3 so after some research I found this web site:
Higurashi Motion Graphic
(I don't even know its real name since it's in Japanese :heh: )

Anyway, I found in the download section 3 preview clips of what seems to be Higurashi no Naku Koroni but with radically different graphics. Could anyone please tell me what it's all about? These movies seem very nice and I wonder if they can be acquired?

Hoho, good job finding it. (・ω・ )

Nakanai Kimi to Nageki no Sekai (なかい君と嘆きの世界) is a MAD music video series based on Higurashi. There has been 3 releases:

- Nakanai Kimi to Nageki no Sekai (なかい君と嘆きの世界)
Based on Onikakushi-hen
- Nakanai Kimi to Nageki no Sekai -Soushunfu- (なかい君と嘆きの世界 -ソウシュンフ-)
Based on Watanagashi-hen + Meakashi-hen
- Nakanai Kimi to Nageki no Sekai Utage (なかい君と嘆きの世界 宴)
Based on Tatarigoroshi-hen

All of them features original music tracks (sung by Shinra Etsuko), created specifically for the video.

The demo clips (to avoid hot-linking, copy and paste the url into your address field and type back in the "w" in front (to make "www"):

Nakanai Kimi to Nageki no Sekai
ww.kawachi.zaq.ne.jp/dpenu801/higurashi/down/movie_sample.wmv

Nakanai Kimi to Nageki no Sekai -Soushunfu-
ww.kawachi.zaq.ne.jp/dpenu801/higurashi/down/movie02_sample.wmv

Nakanai Kimi to Nageki no Sekai Utage
ww.kawachi.zaq.ne.jp/dpenu801/higurashi/down/movie03_sample.wmv

Oh, go here and you might find something good ;):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H46vN313X2A
(what about the others, you ask? Well, only after the anime covers them first ;))
(Personally, Utage was my favorite, both the song and the video. Hey what do you know, Tatarigoroshi-hen was my favorite chapter too! :heh: Maybe you might see it sometime in the future. Maybe say, after the anime's Tatarigoroshi-hen ends? ;))

Meowshi 2006-05-08 23:57

How do the chapters relate time-wise to the first?

I mean like, how does the second 'chapter' (epi 5-?) relate timewise from 1-4

And I didn't really understand it before (the way you guys stated it..butterfly effect?) but these are alternate universes right?

How do these relate to the game, if the game is a choice game- Is this only one of the many set paths, or in the game, do the paths all lead up to this with different hints and clues, etc.?

Thewanderer 2006-05-09 00:17

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Originally Posted by Meowshi
How do the chapters relate time-wise to the first?

I mean like, how does the second 'chapter' (epi 5-?) relate timewise from 1-4

And I didn't really understand it before (the way you guys stated it..butterfly effect?) but these are alternate universes right?

How do these relate to the game, if the game is a choice game- Is this only one of the many set paths, or in the game, do the paths all lead up to this with different hints and clues, etc.?

I'm pretty sure they're "What if" scenarios that take place in the same universe, but when one starts, the last one is erased from existance or something. I can't be sure tho yet, so meh...

Sushi-Y 2006-05-09 02:10

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Originally Posted by Meowshi
How do the chapters relate time-wise to the first?

I mean like, how does the second 'chapter' (epi 5-?) relate timewise from 1-4

And I didn't really understand it before (the way you guys stated it..butterfly effect?) but these are alternate universes right?

How do these relate to the game, if the game is a choice game- Is this only one of the many set paths, or in the game, do the paths all lead up to this with different hints and clues, etc.?

Ok, I'm going to put this thing down once and for all.

Higurashi no Naku Koroni is a sound novel, there are no selection points within the story, no choices to be made by the player, no interactions whatsoever: you click, read, click, read, click, read, and continue until a chapter is over (well, actually, in the past 7 chapters, there has been a couple of selections, but they were all gimmicks, they don't mean or do anything).

The game is split into 8 chapters (scenarios, if you would), the first half (1 - 4) consists of what we call the "question" chapters (Onikakushi-hen, Watanagashi-hen, Tatarigoroshi-hen, Himatsubushi-hen), while the second half (5 - 8) are considered to be the "answer" chapters (Meakashi-hen, Tsumihoroboshi-hen, Minagoroshi-hen, and the yet-to-be-released Matsuribayashi-hen). Although we call them "chapters" in this forum, each scenario are completely stand-alone: they each contain their own stories, development, and ending, and are not related to any other chapters directly.

Now, as for the relationship between these parallel scenarios. Like I mentioned in another post, for the sake of defining it as something, you should consider the scenarios (chapters) to be different stories occuring in parallel worlds (although Minagoroshi-hen revealed that this isn't quite the case either).

The important thing here is to realize that all characters and settings remain exactly the same throughout all scenarios, the only things that are different between the scenarios are the circumstances and happenings. The primary function these parallel worlds is to provide a multi-faceted view for the reader (you) to analyze. For Keiichi and the others, the world within each scenario is their only world. But you, the reader, an outsider, can watch from the sidelines, blessed with the ability to make comparisons, deductions, and determinations based on information gathered from across all the worlds.

Timeline wise, it might not be exact, but yes, all the chapters take place at roughly around the same time period, early summer in Hinamizawa (although there are a few exceptions, but you will know them when they come).

The anime, then, is basically doing the same thing: showing one scenario, then moving on to the next after the current scenario ends, etc.

JanthraX^ 2006-05-10 14:51

what kind of blade/knife does Rena 'use'? It looks a lot like a chibi uruk-hai sword.

kj1980 2006-05-10 14:58

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what kind of blade/knife does Rena 'use'? It looks a lot like a chibi uruk-hai sword.

It's a hatchet with a pointy tip protuding out sideways. Seriously, that is the best way to explain it as it doesn't exist in that size. Although, there are similar ones such as the Echizen hatchet and the Haku hatchet, which are smaller and with a much rounded protuding tip. But, one guy went to the lengths of having it specially made just for the heck of it:

kinshin 2006-05-16 12:32

Hi, I'm glad I read the forums else I'll be watching the show in a totally DIFFERENT direction!!!

I have some doubts which I hope some kind soul will help to clarify cos I am really confused now.

Initally, I thought that the purpose of the different arcs was to explain what happened in the first arcs\ but it seems like the arcs actually portray different realities in a parallel world at the same time?

1) If so, how could some of the events which happened in the second arc explain some of the events in the first arc?
For eg. some people said that the reason that Mion knew K1 was talking Oishi (in the first arc) was because she actually disguised as Shion and happened to be in the same restaurant that K1 and Oishi went to for lunch. (second arc)
-> But if the second arc does not happen in the same world as the first arc, how could the above arguement be held true?

2) Also what is the role of us viewers when we view thru the different arcs. Eg. intially I thought that the different arcs happen in the same world and we are supposed to piece the story of different timeframe to get the full story (similar to boogiepop phantom anime), but if the different arc portarys different reality, how should we go about watching it?

I know this questions are really fundamental but I do hope someone could give me a clearer explanation so that I am able to view this anime in the right direction =)

This anime rockS! Thanks! :)

FubaredByAnime 2006-05-16 13:34

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Originally Posted by kinshin
Hi, I'm glad I read the forums else I'll be watching the show in a totally DIFFERENT direction!!!

I have some doubts which I hope some kind soul will help to clarify cos I am really confused now.

Initally, I thought that the purpose of the different arcs was to explain what happened in the first arcs\ but it seems like the arcs actually portray different realities in a parallel world at the same time?

In a way, yes

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1) If so, how could some of the events which happened in the second arc explain some of the events in the first arc?
For eg. some people said that the reason that Mion knew K1 was talking Oishi (in the first arc) was because she actually disguised as Shion and happened to be in the same restaurant that K1 and Oishi went to for lunch. (second arc)
-> But if the second arc does not happen in the same world as the first arc, how could the above arguement be held true?
From my understanding of what's going on, the events that lead up to the start of each arc are the same. Then outside circumstances unique to each situation causes the stories to become different to each other. This leads to more clues provided in each situation to help figure out what's going on.

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2) Also what is the role of us viewers when we view thru the different arcs. Eg. intially I thought that the different arcs happen in the same world and we are supposed to piece the story of different timeframe to get the full story (similar to boogiepop phantom anime), but if the different arc portarys different reality, how should we go about watching it?
I would just approach it as a mystery, except instead of the story providing the sleuth, we are the sleuths. And until the ending is provided for us, we're put in the situation to figure out what's going on based on the events given to us. Just remember, like all detectives, we have to figure out what's true from what's not true. That's the fun part.

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I know this questions are really fundamental but I do hope someone could give me a clearer explanation so that I am able to view this anime in the right direction =)

This anime rockS! Thanks! :)
I hope I helped.

Sushi-Y 2006-05-16 14:19

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Originally Posted by kinshin
1) If so, how could some of the events which happened in the second arc explain some of the events in the first arc?
For eg. some people said that the reason that Mion knew K1 was talking Oishi (in the first arc) was because she actually disguised as Shion and happened to be in the same restaurant that K1 and Oishi went to for lunch. (second arc)
-> But if the second arc does not happen in the same world as the first arc, how could the above arguement be held true?

2) Also what is the role of us viewers when we view thru the different arcs. Eg. intially I thought that the different arcs happen in the same world and we are supposed to piece the story of different timeframe to get the full story (similar to boogiepop phantom anime), but if the different arc portarys different reality, how should we go about watching it?

First of all, read my post here if you haven't already:
http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...0&postcount=33


I'm going to be careful in answering this one:
Spoiler:

Beyond the Shave 2006-06-13 10:10

Do Keiichi's parents and Chie-sensei (I think that's her name?) serve any real important purpose to the plot, or should we not be paying much attention to them? They don't seem to be getting much screentime, leading me to believe that they don't have much of an impact on the storyline, but for some reason I still find them suspicious.

Amaranthine 2006-06-13 15:07

I have a what I thought was a simple, very quick question, but I've realised it's a little more complex. :/ I don't think it's been answered anywhere.

It's about the TIPS, and how far they can be trusted. First of all, I'm assuming that the information in them can be taken as it's presented; there's nothing twisted by a character's point of view/mental state, like there was in Onikakushi-hen. Is that correct?

Secondly, I'm also assuming that in the ones that are conservations between characters, what the characters say could be lies or misinformation. I'm unsure as to whether the TIPS are supposed to provide concrete facts or whether they're just like everything else, and open to interpretation.

Sorry if it's a stupid question, but I'm feeling a little confused. x_x;

AzureFlux 2006-06-13 15:40

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Originally Posted by Amaranthine
It's about the TIPS, and how far they can be trusted. First of all, I'm assuming that the information in them can be taken as it's presented; there's nothing twisted by a character's point of view/mental state, like there was in Onikakushi-hen. Is that correct?

Secondly, I'm also assuming that in the ones that are conservations between characters, what the characters say could be lies or misinformation. I'm unsure as to whether the TIPS are supposed to provide concrete facts or whether they're just like everything else, and open to interpretation.

The TIPs provide "factual information" in the sense that they show what actually took place. For example, if a TIP contained information about what a character is thinking, then you can be sure that the thought process did take place. However, the contents of his/her thought would naturally be subjected to the person's state of mind. As for conversations, the above rule still applies. A person may lie if he/she chooses to.

With that said, the TIPs are there to help you solve the mystery behind everything (if that's even possible) and not to mislead the readers.

kj1980 2006-06-13 17:24

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Originally Posted by AzureFlux
The TIPs provide "factual information" in the sense that they show what actually took place. For example, if a TIP contained information about what a character is thinking, then you can be sure that the thought process did take place. However, the contents of his/her thought would naturally be subjected to the person's state of mind. As for conversations, the above rule still applies. A person may lie if he/she chooses to.

With that said, the TIPs are there to help you solve the mystery behind everything (if that's even possible) and not to mislead the readers.

Let me clarify about the TIPS:

What's written in the TIPS are evidences, fact, clues, and hints.

If the coroner's report says it's a woman, it is a woman Although you don't see the report, what good will Oishi and his partner have in lying at that scene about the coroner's report being a woman? They are talking to their fellow police officers - they can check them out if they want to; and that's what Oishi and Kuma tells them to do. That's how you connect the dots for the TIPS.

If the newspaper report says that so-and-so occurred, it occurred. If a character thought that way, that's what he/she thought (psychological state of mind aside). If you see an episode where Rika refers to a call that Satoko made when she was young, there's a record of it that you can read. It's interesting. And, that actual record is factual evidence.

How you use the TIPS is another matter. Scrapbooks for instance - it's written down, but it's mainly a theory. How far can you trust that source?

It's just a matter of sorting through the evidence just like an investigator - what is reliable and what maybe questionable. If it's between a coroner's medical autopsy report versus some person's theory written in a scrapbook....which one do you trust? How much can you trust? Then again, if you negate the coroner's report becaus he might be "in on it," what do you trust? On the other hand, what are the chances of the coroner misidentifying a corpse as a woman than a man? The body is rather intact, it's not charred up like Takano's corpse from the previous arcs. So, what do you think?

Are the TIPS misleading? Perhaps. But these are presented to you directly. Even if they some might seem to take you off-track, you then have to think - what was the purpose of that TIPS to make you go off track? That's where more thinking kicks in.

So, write down to yourself notes on which TIPS give you reliable facts, versus some that are highly questionable. You are your own detective - see if you can best Oishi or even Rena!

Amaranthine 2006-06-14 03:55

Thanks for that, both of you. :) It helped a lot... especially since kj1980 seems to have read my mind by using the coroner's report as an example. Sadly I don't think I'm going to be besting Rena or Ooishi any time soon, but this will definitely help my attempt.

Nork22 2006-07-02 08:29

Watch the latest CM for the DVD release. Apparently the 1st pressing DVD will have the TIPS as part of the package. Anyone can clarify this?

Varion 2006-07-02 08:40

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Originally Posted by Nork22
Watch the latest CM for the DVD release. Apparently the 1st pressing DVD will have the TIPS as part of the package. Anyone can clarify this?

Yep, it's confirmed by the official website and CDJapan. I made a post about it here with a link to the site.

Varion 2006-07-07 08:17

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Originally Posted by dopelfish
2. Mekashi-hen is going to have only 2 episodes? Only 2 are listed on wikipedia and anidb.

Only two episode titles have been confirmed for Meakashi, that's why :) I doubt that, as an answer chapter, it'll be that short - you'll be able to work out how many episodes it has when an episode title for Tsumihoroboshi shows up. Himatsubushi, on the other hand, is only 2.

Guido 2006-07-07 14:00

What was the inspiration for Higurashi no Naku Koroni?

Explaining, if the idea of placing the plot in a rural village came from the experiences that one or many members of Ryukishi07 had in their childhood growing up in similar villages in the Japanese countryside.

Nork22 2006-07-07 21:09

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Originally Posted by Guido
What was the inspiration for Higurashi no Naku Koroni?

Explaining, if the idea of placing the plot in a rural village came from the experiences that one or many members of Ryukishi07 had in their childhood growing up in similar villages in the Japanese countryside.

I'm guessing quite a bit of Twin Peaks, infused with local folklore and traditions of rural villages. :heh:

Sushi-Y 2006-07-07 21:35

(Looks like kj tossed my post into the game thread for the game-related contents ^^; , so I'll cut and paste this part back here)

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Originally Posted by Guido
What was the inspiration for Higurashi no Naku Koroni?

Explaining, if the idea of placing the plot in a rural village came from the experiences that one or many members of Ryukishi07 had in their childhood growing up in similar villages in the Japanese countryside.

I believe it was a time when he was into mini theatrical plays, and out of interest, he wrote some play scripts. Among them was a script called "Hinamizawa Bus Stop", which is a story that took place entirely at a bus stop. Coincidentally, Yatazakura-san (the programmer, Ryukishi07-san's brother) began studying Nscripter as well at this time, so the idea to clean up the "Hinamizawa Bus Stop" script and rewrite it in a novel style came up...

The script itself can be said to be Higurashi's essence: all the most important plot devices came from this play script. But it took a lot of planning and organizing for the story to become what we see in the games today.

Sunabouzu 2006-07-10 05:57

i understand that the arcs are the same world but with differant happenings to give you answers so that you can solve the mystery.
But is the first arc something like a main-arc? And you have to see the other ones to fill the holes of this „main-arc“ ? because i think there have to be at least some kind of main story...
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well english is not my mother-tongue so forgive me for mistakes and maybe i have read something wrong...in that case just delete this post :P

LostBlue 2006-07-10 11:27

In short, no. ;)
I would work backwards. Upto this pt I think majority of the clues are given to you.


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