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GDB 2016-03-22 22:26

I don't think it's even a smaller amount, other than pieces and monuments. At least not a lesser amount to be worth it given the rarity discrepancy.

Craxuan 2016-03-22 22:44

I beg to differ. Many Bronze Servants can be very good and absolutely deserve their ascension materials. For example, Asterios is a Berserker debuffer whose NP is even better than Zhuge Liang due to several reasons:

1. you can easily NP5 Asterios whereas NP5 Zhuge Liang requires both a lot of luck and money to achieve.

2. Both of Asterios' debuff will always hit (subject to target's MR) and is always relevant in any fights, whereas Zhuge Liang's stun can miss; his NP Gauge -1 can also 'miss' if you time it wrongly or am trying to set up a combo; and his reduce defense is lower than Asterios at NP1. Not to mention that -6k total Curse Damage is mostly superficial against bosses nowadays.

When used wisely Bronze Servants can do better than even a whole team of Golds.

McW 2016-03-22 23:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craxuan (Post 5808583)
I beg to differ. Many Bronze Servants can be very good and absolutely deserve their ascension materials. For example, Asterios is a Berserker debuffer whose NP is even better than Zhuge Liang due to several reasons:

1. you can easily NP5 Asterios whereas NP5 Zhuge Liang requires both a lot of luck and money to achieve.

2. Both of Asterios' debuff will always hit (subject to target's MR) and is always relevant in any fights, whereas Zhuge Liang's stun can miss; his NP Gauge -1 can also 'miss' if you time it wrongly or am trying to set up a combo; and his reduce defense is lower than Asterios at NP1. Not to mention that -6k total Curse Damage is mostly superficial against bosses nowadays.

When used wisely Bronze Servants can do better than even a whole team of Golds.

That's true, for Example Asterio NP is one of the best if not the best Debuff of the game, Hassan has 3 time dodge making more durable than his stat show, Hans is a cheaper and crazier combination of Waver (att&def buff), Medea Lily(healing), Caster Liz/Mephisto/Rulers (Passive Stars gen) and so far his unique full team crit damage buff in one guy of 6 cost. But not every bronze is good (Although the same can be say of silvers and golds), Mata Hari can only charm and debuff, Benki can seal skills, Spartacus can heal, but they bad in so many other aspects that they are very hard to use correctly.

The point is not that golds/silver are better than bronze either bronze guys are useless. But the number of units with great utility of the golds and silvers outnumber the bronze, so in the end people tends to give more attention to higher rarity units.

Edit:

On a side note I got my 4th Divine Banquet today, one more to go and Vlad can spam sticks with other 2 arts servant like no tomorrow.

Edit 2:

DW has no mercy, Karna rate-up coming.

MartianMage 2016-03-23 02:53

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm28474871

Awesome no damage/perma stun lock run against Edmond.

larethian 2016-03-23 02:57

http://news.fate-go.jp/2016/y3w8ga/
quartz!!

MartianMage 2016-03-23 03:04

Nice, more free quartz.

As for the maintenance.... I should have 0'd my AP earlier lol

Levani 2016-03-23 03:27

Arjuna and Karna rate up? ...Ehhhhhhh, why couldn't it have been Okita.

Well, another pass for me.

McW 2016-03-23 03:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by MartianMage (Post 5808692)
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm28474871

Awesome no damage/perma stun lock run against Edmond.

a) We get 10 quartz if login between 26th and 28th
b) New America CM after Fate/Zero on Friday.
c) Super Indian Bros. II limited gacha.

New support system when?

Kakurin 2016-03-23 04:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Levani (Post 5808702)
Arjuna and Karna rate up? ...Ehhhhhhh, why couldn't it have been Okita.

I'm fine with this. Want to stockpile more quartz before Okita reappears. Right now I only have enough for two 10-rolls. :heh:

larethian 2016-03-23 04:03

Spartacus is the first guy.

Nachtwandler 2016-03-23 04:07

I'll level Leonidas and wait for riders. As much as I love Zerkers, don't see any reason to go for bronze ones.

As for the new Gatcha. I want Arjuna but better wait till America.

McW 2016-03-23 04:15

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Originally Posted by larethian (Post 5808718)
Spartacus is the first guy.

Great I have the guy but he need octo-crystal... so does David, Tamamo Cat, Jekyll, Ushi...not gonna happen.

larethian 2016-03-23 04:32

I did Spartacus's. There is ZERO STORY. And all he got was his regen ranked up to B+.
And I tested it.
I have it at level 4. It went from 320 to 800. Duration is the same.

NovelReader 2016-03-23 04:40

Well....did 4 10-rolls. First 10 roll trolled me with a gold lancer.....Fionn dupe. Then final 10-roll gave me Karna ^^ /finished with event. Finally a 5*Lancer that I can use. Just making sure, my Liz NP 5 will still deal more AOE damage than maxed Karna(w/o divine) right?

larethian 2016-03-23 04:56

Just estimating based on comparisons with my Lalter, Liz NP5 will probably do slightly more damage even if Karna has his burst activated at lower skill levels, all other buffs being the same. However, if you get Karna to NP2, likely he will do more damage. If you maxed his first skill, there's a possiblility he might do more damage at NP1. Need to compute to be sure.

edit: oh wait. since Karna has higher stats when maxed, the possibility is higher

yozaku 2016-03-23 05:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by NovelReader (Post 5808741)
Well....did 4 10-rolls. First 10 roll trolled me with a gold lancer.....Fionn dupe. Then final 10-roll gave me Karna ^^ /finished with event. Finally a 5*Lancer that I can use. Just making sure, my Liz NP 5 will still deal more AOE damage than maxed Karna(w/o divine) right?

My NP 5 lizcast with 500 attack fou and level 7 hallowen burst also with 2030 ce deal around 22k damage to hand (sometime kill it, sometime not)

R.LocK 2016-03-23 05:09

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Originally Posted by yozaku (Post 5808751)
My NP 5 lizcast with 500 attack fou and level 7 hallowen burst also with 2030 ce deal around 22k damage to hand (sometime kill it, sometime not)

That's about Lancer Liz, though.

Levani 2016-03-23 05:36

What does Okita say when you tap her NP? Something, something, uketoru ga yoi. Can't quite hear it.

Kakurin 2016-03-23 06:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by levani (Post 5808765)
what does okita say when you tap her np? Something, something, uketoru ga yoi. Can't quite hear it.

「我が秘剣の煌めき、受けるがよい!」

Levani 2016-03-23 06:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kakurin-san (Post 5808782)
「我が秘剣の煌めき、受けるがよい!」

Thank you :D


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