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Hideuze were humans
http://i.imgur.com/gmxfgAC.gif
My mind is full of fuck.

I said "Holy Shit" out loud.

Towards the end, it looked like Chamber mercilessly killed the human like Hideauze without Ledo's permission....

Oh, what a nice Blue Submarine No. 6 we've got here!

Oh wow! Damn, that guess was right!

He did, but that was because he's programmed to kill them. He isn't entirely capable of suddenly thinking "Oh wait, they're human" and not kill them just because he saw a video contradicting everything he's been programmed to view as fact.

But yeah, "OH S***" revelation. :twitch:

How long is this series supposed to be, anyway? Episode 9 seems pretty early for such a plot-shattering development, unless this is a one-cour show. If this is supposed to be a 24-26 episode series, it means we've got some really serious "OH S***" moments on the way. :uhoh:

When I saw the human-looking embryos I knew something was off but...
This, holy sh*t I absolutely didn't saw it coming, it's the biggest twist I see in an anime in a while. :eyespin:

If they wanted to make us empathize in the "crushing" scene just after, it was more than successful :upset:.

From relentlessness: "Suisei no Gargantia (13 TV Episodes + 2 BD-exclusive Episodes, 3 BD-Boxes, 5×3)"

Booom! Plot gets blown up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jz7rFuZZZc

But seriously, I think this episode should at least partially restore the show's reputation in the haters' eyes.

Also...

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Hmm, from what I gathered from the episode was, these Whale-Squids are not evolved humans, rather, they're the descendants of the artificially created beings that when combined with humans, become the space-Hideauze.

There seems to be three different species involved here.

Humans - homosapiens
Whale-Squids - the "Evolveds" created by humans, that can adapt to any environment
Hideauze - Human genes combined with the Evolveds, and set out to conquer space. In conflict with old human race over territorial conflict.

Whale-squids looking somewhat humanoid is probably because they were created to combine with human genes in the first place.

"You used my hands to kill him!"

PS, you really should use spoiler tags about the for now.

PPS: Knowing that Gen is a Stephen King fan, was anyone else thinking of "The Mist" in how the area is misty, and they're fighting tentacled monsters?

I guess we get ourselves “Urobuchi Gen did it again”-moment this episode :p.

..... why would you need to spoiler tag about content of an episode that already aired, in the thread about the said episode?

There's a scene at the end of the video where one of those whalesquids approaches a diver and has the caption "Elaine Matsumoto" appear next to it. The name of the guy whose face we see on the various ocean- and space-deployed whalesquids is Matsumoto, and we see his wife and daughter, so presumably one of them was changed into the humanoid whalesquid.

Which raises the question of whether the whalesquid of Gargantia's time are able to create the humanoid whalesquid on their own or... if people from the surface are being merged into whalesquid—and in that case, whether that's voluntary or not.

Well, that thoroughly answers the question posed by the freeze-frame bonus whalesquid butt shot from a couple of episodes ago.

Ledo/Chamber conflict looms. It was interesting that Chamber would defer to Ledo wanting to see the video, but went completely autonomous with regard to squishing Ika Musume (nod to the image thread here).

Next issue: We know that the Evolvers planned to go through the wormhole gate and then blow it up, but the Continental Union managed to get around that somehow (and became the Galactic Alliance). Obvious remaining question is whether the gate really did get blown up, because that part is left off of the end of the video.

The underwater fight was interesting to watch.
Ledo was tearing them apart with ease.
Pinion's greed/personal vendetta was a dangerous one.
Don't think it's worth pissing off the whale squids..
The vast amount of new info left me speechless.
OMG the history behind everything was shocking and disturbing.
Awesome episode this time!

Episode 9

I have to admit I did not see this development coming.

Now I can't wait to see the ending Urobuchi has made. Worth the average few episodes from before.

I did expect them to be experiments, but for them to be actually human and for the past to be like that... That's intense.