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LightningZERO 2009-02-05 09:05

It looks pretty bad for a 1/100, not that detailed at all

MakubeX2 2009-02-05 09:22

The pinnacle of 1/100 scale was at the relase of Overflag and Tieren kits with the details and those tiny figures you can make actually make a diorama with.

Why the sudden fall from grace, Bandai ?

duotiga 2009-02-05 09:31

what i can think of : Cut cost?

cupcakes4chris 2009-02-05 09:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by MakubeX2 (Post 2199566)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raven Revolution (Post 2199100)
I only have HG OO ( dun have O Riser yet ) so I took a look at it and realize :
the hole to connect the O riser's wing part to OO's shoulder and the hole to connect the shield to OO's arm have different sizes , the shoulder ones far bigger than the arm ones and has different shape too ( not like 1/100 ) , so I think maybe it cant connect ( without modding ) like the 1/100

Hey, when you're done building it, can you do me a favor and confirm if the 0 raiser's "wings" can attach to 00 gundam's arms and whether or not the sensor unit or "middle" part of the 0 raiser can be attached in the opposite position. Basically, all I'm asking is that can it do what the 1/100 00 raiser did in the picture i posted a page or 2 ago. thanks.

MakubeX2 2009-02-05 09:44

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Originally Posted by cupcakes4chris (Post 2199869)
Hey, when you're done building it, can you do me a favor and confirm if the 0 raiser's "wings" can attach to 00 gundam's arms and whether or not the sensor unit or "middle" part of the 0 raiser can be attached in the opposite position. Basically, all I'm asking is that can it do what the 1/100 00 raiser did in the picture i posted a page or 2 ago. thanks.

It will take me till Saturday's night to complete everything. (Aiming for 1 kit per night here), so I'll try to get back to ya around this weekend.

MrCapcom 2009-02-05 10:06

Finally got my two orders in:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3366/...e246ee.jpg?v=0
Started spraying last night came out pretty good for my first try.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3364/...d5a00.jpg?v=0/
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3465/...aa4d7.jpg?v=0/
Gotta spray the blue and Red and then do some panel lining and put it all together. I'm thinking that ill paint the nubs after its assembled
what you guys think?

C.A. 2009-02-05 10:11

This is my first picture post for this thread, I'll post my models on display. I'll start with my new Archer-chan, she's great for tip-toeing cute poses:Archan joins the rest of my SRW team on a dusty shelf terrain:
Spoiler:
Turn A and Astivalis Akito:The Black Sarena, which I did not unpack:This one is a spoiler for FMP fans:The Twin Birds of SRW:That's all for now, I have some others which I hid somewhere and have been on overhaul ever since.

Then alot more which were scrapped around a decade or less ago, after I organised a Gundam Fight. The tournament lasted for several days or weeks I forgot, The G Gundam master and disciple team trashed the Wing boys and eventually the finals was God Gundam Vs EVA team. There was once EVA-01 tried to Positron snipe God Gundam, but God Dash destroyed the rifle.

In the midst of the tournament, there were body parts like a pair of Atomic Scissors, lots of V-fins and broken scythes all over the place, G Gundam dismantled the EVAs but itself lost some limbs.

After that I never organised another Gundam Fight anymore.

MrCapcom 2009-02-05 10:13

Where u live so i can steal your GGG Genesis? lol I want one of those so bad

C.A. 2009-02-05 10:20

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Originally Posted by MrCapcom (Post 2199913)
Where u live so i can steal your GGG Genesis? lol I want one of those so bad

Singapore lol

There are still a handful of Genesic for sale in shops here. If I'm actually rich, I may even buy Gaogaigar, Star Gaogaigar and Gaofaigar.

cupcakes4chris 2009-02-05 10:44

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Originally Posted by MakubeX2 (Post 2199884)
It will take me till Saturday's night to complete everything. (Aiming for 1 kit per night here), so I'll try to get back to ya around this weekend.

Thanks =D

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Originally Posted by MrCapcom (Post 2199902)
Finally got my two orders in:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3366/...e246ee.jpg?v=0
Started spraying last night came out pretty good for my first try.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3364/...d5a00.jpg?v=0/
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3465/...aa4d7.jpg?v=0/
Gotta spray the blue and Red and then do some panel lining and put it all together. I'm thinking that ill paint the nubs after its assembled
what you guys think?

what brand of sprays did you use?
I've never spray painted before, but if I ever got into it, I think i'd spray everything after they're off the runners and all nubs have been sanded down.

MrCapcom 2009-02-05 11:18

Tamiya Paint
Well if anything the reason why I was saying to fix the nubs after assemble would be because I would just paint over the nubs with a brush.

cupcakes4chris 2009-02-05 11:36

Upon my request...
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3421/...32875a.jpg?v=0
XOO-S-GUNDAM

MrCapcom 2009-02-05 11:41

lol thats sick I like the black and white one better though :-) I'm going to try and pick up a SD 00 or Exia or Exia 1/100 and I plan on painting it black and white like this one:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3517/...cc9776.jpg?v=0

ryanvamp 2009-02-05 11:51

So, in general, which of these guys are the winners in terms of accuracy, details, accesories and articulation ?

1/100 Cherudim vs 1/144 Cherudim
1/100 00 vs 1/144 00

Seravee is looking good in 1/100, but I guess we'll have to see when anyone of us gets it.

Btw, is the consensus unanimous about the Arios 1/100 sucking compared to 1/144 even though nobody actually has it yet ? Apart from the GN Archer gimmick and the waist joint missing on the newer model, the pics didn't look THAT bad to me. Then again, I'm a newbie.

MrCapcom 2009-02-05 11:53

I hear the 1/144 00 is better as far as poses and the 1/100 00 has more stuff (weapons). Me Personally ill probally end up buying the 1/144 and SD versions.
Arios does look a bit plain but meh ill probally get it 1/100 of course.
I can't decide on weither to get Seravee or Virtue >_<

I'm a n00b only cause I only have 1 model and 2 WIP

cupcakes4chris 2009-02-05 13:06

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Originally Posted by ryanvamp (Post 2200041)
So, in general, which of these guys are the winners in terms of accuracy, details, accesories and articulation ?

1/100 Cherudim vs 1/144 Cherudim
1/100 00 vs 1/144 00

Seravee is looking good in 1/100, but I guess we'll have to see when anyone of us gets it.

Btw, is the consensus unanimous about the Arios 1/100 sucking compared to 1/144 even though nobody actually has it yet ? Apart from the GN Archer gimmick and the waist joint missing on the newer model, the pics didn't look THAT bad to me. Then again, I'm a newbie.

If I were you, I'd wait for the hg 00 raiser..it's molded in a lighter color scheme (much cooler than the normal one IMO)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3501/...d82b10bc_o.jpg

LoweGear 2009-02-05 13:16

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Originally Posted by ryanvamp (Post 2200041)
So, in general, which of these guys are the winners in terms of accuracy, details, accesories and articulation ?

1/100 Cherudim vs 1/144 Cherudim
1/100 00 vs 1/144 00

In terms of accuracy and detail, the 1/100's are more accurate to the original lineart (which themselves don't have much detail in them). 1/100's and 1/144's are more or less equal in accessories - while the 1/100 00 Gundam does have the GN Shield and combining GN Swords unlike the 1/144, the 1/144 compensates by having said accessories in the O-Raiser, which also comes along with its own display stand. The only unique thing the 1/100 00 has over the 1/144 is the GN Drive lighting unit, which seems to be compatible with all the other 1/100 S2 Gundams. The Cherudim is more or less similar in this aspect on both scales, though the 1/100 has the advantage of having "filled out" GN Shield Bits and an actual jointed GN Sniper Rifle.

HG 1/144 wins hands down in articulation, due to not having the same weight limits that the 1/100 has.

In the end, it all comes down to personal preference.

Ypocaramel 2009-02-05 13:54

Most Gundam 00 S2 releases are in 1/144 (especially the grunts) so they're probably better for diorama build unless Bandai finally releases more 1/100s. My 1/100 00 Gundam is very sturdy and tough, something that might not be true with the 1/144 (but this is speculation).

LoweGear 2009-02-05 14:10

While I don't have the 1/100, I do have the 1/144 HG 00 Gundam, and trust me it's one very tough and sturdy kit. The only real weak spot is in holding the GN Sword II's in rifle form, but otherwise the kit is extremely solid, being able to hold and maintain incredibly difficult poses, and doesn't fall apart at the slightest touch.

ryanvamp 2009-02-05 14:10

Thanks for all the answers like always, guys.

Regarding 00, I think that the best thing I could do is indeed wait for the HG 0 Raiser version, which I don't know when it'll come out but I'm in no hurry.

Regarding Cherudim, for the answers of LoweGear, I think 1/100 is the way to go.

So only Arios and Seravee are missing, but then again, they are kinda new (Seravee didn't come out yet, I believe?), so I'm sure the subject is far from over till any of us actually orders them and post their opinions. I hope Arios 1/100 isn't as bad as it seems right now, cause I was really looking forward to it.

Nerroth 2009-02-05 14:12

The HG 00 looks great on a Figma stand, too!

Can't wait for the HG 0-Raiser...

LoweGear 2009-02-05 14:13

Yes, Seravee hasn't come out yet, it's expected for a late March release.

And looking at the 1/100 Arios, the only thing it lacks from the 1/144 is a waist joint, though in all other aspects it seems more or less the same.

C.A. 2009-02-05 14:17

I'll say the same for 1/144 GN Archer.

Though she's extremely petit, her entire head plus body is smaller than my thumb, she's very firm and steady. Though I've been having fun posing her around in cute poses lol, she still hasn't shown signs of worn joints.

Nerroth 2009-02-05 14:24

Leaving the mobile suits aside for just a sec, do you guys think there'd be much of an interest in seeing Figma (or a similar type of model) versions of characters from 00?

For example, I was thinking that the Meisters themselves in their flight suits could be neat - but if the company making them wanted to stick with women, they could have, for example, Marie in her orange CB flight suit?

C.A. 2009-02-05 14:27

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Originally Posted by Nerroth (Post 2200237)
Leaving the mobile suits aside for just a sec, do you guys think there'd be much of an interest in seeing Figma (or a similar type of model) versions of characters from 00?

For example, I was thinking that the Meisters themselves in their flight suits could be neat - but if the company making them wanted to stick with women, they could have, for example, Marie in her orange CB flight suit?

I'd love to have Figma Tieria, Louise and Feldt lol

But they're unlikely to have such.

So far only moe characters and memes get into Figma and Revoltech Fraulein. Action characters get on to Revoltech, like Fist of the North Star and Street Fighter.

LoweGear 2009-02-05 14:29

Gundam's main draw is in the Mobile Suits though, which does most of the action unlike in other shows, and with Figma being action figures IMHO it'd be a... what can I say, "waste"?

Of course, if the market is seen to be accepting of such a product, then why not?

Nerroth 2009-02-05 14:46

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Originally Posted by C.A. (Post 2200245)
I'd love to have Figma Tieria, Louise and Feldt lol

But they're unlikely to have such.

So far only moe characters and memes get into Figma and Revoltech Fraulein. Action characters get on to Revoltech, like Fist of the North Star and Street Fighter.

Well, I would argue that even for action characters, Figma has been kicking the pants off Revoltech for some time now - Saber (and Saber Lily, in particular) are far better as Figma models than they are as Revoltechs, and they are more show-accurate, too.

Plus, unlike their Revoltech counterparts, Figma Rin and Saber are to scale...

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Originally Posted by LoweGear (Post 2200250)
Gundam's main draw is in the Mobile Suits though, which does most of the action unlike in other shows, and with Figma being action figures IMHO it'd be a... what can I say, "waste"?

Of course, if the market is seen to be accepting of such a product, then why not?

Well, to that I would say that Bandai may already have the mobile suit side of things well and truly sewn up, there could still be room for the likes of Max Factory to give the human/Innovator side of things a try.

C.A. 2009-02-05 14:52

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Originally Posted by Nerroth (Post 2200283)
Well, I would argue that even for action characters, Figma has been kicking the pants off Revoltech for some time now - Saber (and Saber Lily, in particular) are far better as Figma models than they are as Revoltechs, and they are more show-accurate, too.

Plus, unlike their Revoltech counterparts, Figma Rin and Saber are to scale...

Yea, Figma is just owning the industry, Maxfactory and Goodsmile both are.

Revoltech can stay with their mecha line, but their Fraulein isn't really outstanding. They've been improving since Saber though, I like my IdolM@sters and Haruhis.

Some other companies are turning to action figures as well though, not sure who are they.

Nerroth 2009-02-05 14:57

Ironically enough, it seems the main designer for the Revoltech mechs is no longer with the company, and they don't seem to have someone who can fill his shoes... so now their once-notable line of mechs and bio-mechs (ie TFs) is declining.

I'd still want a model of flight-suit Marie to be a Figma, all the same!


(Of the female characters, she seems to be the best choice if you wanted someone who was an action character too, akin to Saber and Rin... and like Saber, you could have as many variants as you have factions SoMarie has flown for.)

LoweGear 2009-02-05 15:06

Would that include the Soma in pajamas then? :uhoh:

C.A. 2009-02-05 15:10

Which episode was Soma in pajamas?

I want Louise in Lolita style and Tieria in the dress lol

Check out my items :p: http://forums.animesuki.com/showthre...15#post2200215

Nerroth 2009-02-05 15:11

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Originally Posted by LoweGear (Post 2200320)
Would that include the Soma in pajamas then? :uhoh:

There might be more... viable options.

(I was thinking of the possibility of A-Laws and HRL suit/uniform variants, and possibly a civilian one showing the outfit you see her in in S2.)

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Originally Posted by C.A. (Post 2200328)
I want Louise in Lolita style and Tieria in the dress lol

I'm not even in the least bit surprised.

(As an aside, it's kind of odd how some of the fan art makes dress-Tieria look a bit like Sakura... which, given who else Tieria's seiyuu has voiced, is something I'm not too sure I'm overly comfortable with.)

helois 2009-02-05 15:25

I'm planning to buy two Arios(one in mobil suit form with two rifles and the other in mobile armor mode)do you think is better to buy them 1/144 or 1/100 (there is no problem with money,for now.. ^^')?
thanks

Nerroth 2009-02-05 15:28

Well, if you got the 1/144 versions, they'd be cheaper, plus the GN Archer is already available to combine with the one you leave in its alt mode...

vektar 2009-02-05 17:36

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Originally Posted by helois (Post 2200354)
I'm planning to buy two Arios(one in mobil suit form with two rifles and the other in mobile armor mode)do you think is better to buy them 1/144 or 1/100 (there is no problem with money,for now.. ^^')?
thanks

id get one of each and have the 1/144 in is mobile armor mode and the 1/100 in its gundam mode i think that would would out nice, that way you dont have to buy 2 of the same model.

kk2extreme 2009-02-05 17:39

i wonder if Empress is on sale yet...

p.s. i just got my sinanju today, and waiting for unicorn :)

MakubeX2 2009-02-05 18:12

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Originally Posted by Sir Dearka (Post 2199620)
Seems Bandai is not THAT cheap. Nice. :]

I may have figure it out why Bandai made the Excalibur extendable.

The blade from the MG Impluse seems to be too long for it's own good. The engineer knew that when they put 2 of them together and saw that if somebody want to do that pose with the joint sword from the promo pix, the MG impluse will not be able to hold the blade in the left hand. And of course, the Sword Silhouette will not be able to hold the original sword upright given it's length.

So all in all, Bandai had no choice but to remake the Excalibur.

Sir Dearka 2009-02-05 18:24

^Maybe so. I hope it is a clever way to make it look decent and stable in most cool poses from the series. Still, I feel happy that Sword impulse may be something more than just repainted MG Force Impulse with two swords we've been given already.

LoweGear 2009-02-05 18:34

Maybe, but then again the MG Sword Impulse's Excaliburs when in extended form seem to be the same length as the Force Impulse's Excaliburs. And one can argue that the modification done to the Sword Impulse swords, aka the extending/retracting function, would make it slightly heavier than the static version.

I'd say the only reason they retooled the Excalibur for this version is that yes, it was too long, but because they wanted the Excalibur to fit on the Sword Silhouette pack when it was stored on the back without looking awkward, and not because of any weight issues. They just added the retracting function so they can keep the length consistent with what they gave the Force Impulse Excalibur while allowing for better storage.

I don't get your point about the Impulse's left hand, considering that the left and right hands of the MG Impulse are similar in construction, and thus should be similar in strength to be able to wield the Excalibur.

MakubeX2 2009-02-05 20:29

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Originally Posted by LoweGear (Post 2200656)
I don't get your point about the Impulse's left hand, considering that the left and right hands of the MG Impulse are similar in construction, and thus should be similar in strength to be able to wield the Excalibur.

I'm not arguing about the weight issue of the swords, but rather the length. The original seems to be just about as tall, if not longer than the MG Impluse.

Now try to imagine you slanting the original blade sideways, tip down on the ground and have the Impluse wield it in it's right arm. Then get another one to join in on the top, I would imagine the handle of the top one to be too up or down for it to be wield by the left arm. Likewise if you have the original blade to be wield from the top by the left arm first.

If anyone had 2 of those Excalibur from the MG Impluse, could you try my theory out ?


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