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Fireminer 2014-02-10 05:42

I've never buy a GFF for myself, but how sturdy is it compare to typical HG? And is it consider to be Gunpla?

ZeroXSEED 2014-02-10 06:28

Wasn't GFF is closer to action figures than model kit? Also, damn the price.

Quite sturdy if you ask me.

Aurelis 2014-02-10 08:28

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Originally Posted by Fireminer (Post 5007129)
I've never buy a GFF for myself, but how sturdy is it compare to typical HG? And is it consider to be Gunpla?

I usually refer to this site for GFF reviews: Gunpla Inochi

I own the MK-III, Hyaku Shiki Kai, FA RX-78-2 and MK-II with Barzam, so I'll share my experience with them.

The GFF line is more like a display unit, not meant for posing or articulation. The details are much more prominent than the Robot Damashii line since it's Katoki's versions, thus more decals, custom paintjobs and panel lines. The stiff joints are easily loosened and the kit stability is dependent on the unit. Most of them are 1/144 scale but there's the Metal series which is more like 1/100 in size. I'd say it's more like a Gunpla that has been painted and decaled.

The RX-78-2 and MK-II was very stable, as with the FA and Barzam counterparts. Parts fitted nicely but there wasn't much to fiddle around with.

The MK-III and Hyaku Shii however, were sturdy in its base form. However, the FA versions for both, while looking really fierce and dominating, has parts easily falling off at a slight touch.

So, while I do recommend GFF, I advise that it's more for displaying only, rather than to play around with. If you can select the GFF, it's better since you can see through the packaging window to spot any warped or bad paint jobs, flashes at the edges or missing pieces. Enjoy your first GFF if you ever get one, especially if it is the Deepstriker. If not, there's also the Cosmic Region (SEED Units), Zeonography (Zeon Units) and 00 Region.

http://i.imgur.com/l3m5oNm.jpg?2

Fireminer 2014-02-10 09:58

Thanks! But I don't think that I will have enough money for the Denbrodium. So what GFF UC units do you recommend? Minus the Gundam variations and OYW MS.

ZeroXSEED 2014-02-10 10:10

Ugh, the new kits look awesome these days

But I'm trying hard to save for Arios-Archer

Providenceangle 2014-02-10 10:59

No spoilers but... Just finished watching the new Gundam BF. I gotta get the GM Sniper K9 now. I always love gms and grunts, they nailed it though. Someone must be really pushing this to give it such cool screen time.

http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/__...erk9boxart.jpg

Obelisk ze Tormentor 2014-02-10 11:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Providenceangle (Post 5007396)
No spoilers but... Just finished watching the new Gundam BF. I gotta get the GM Sniper K9 now. I always love gms and grunts, they nailed it though. Someone must be really pushing this to give it such cool screen time.

...and it's green (like the actual military)! What's not to like? :D

Chiu_fan 2014-02-10 11:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Providenceangle (Post 5007396)
No spoilers but... Just finished watching the new Gundam BF. I gotta get the GM Sniper K9 now. I always love gms and grunts, they nailed it though. Someone must be really pushing this to give it such cool screen time.

http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/__...erk9boxart.jpg

I'd order one myself as well after watching the latest episode. If it wasn't for the plot armor, we could have had more battles with this guy.:heh:

crazycollectorhd 2014-02-10 12:39

Okay.
So I looked online and found some picture reviews of the Masterpiece Shining Gundamn and God Gundamn.

I found this Chinese site (or some Asian):

http://www.dalong.net/review/mg/m49/mg49_p.htm
http://www.dalong.net/review/mg/m44/mg44_p.htm

Anyway, I have a few questions.

1. Where can I buy this guy the cheapest and with the fastest delivery time? I live in the USA.
2. How come you have to paint the laser green and laser orange hands?
3. Does this guy come with the screws and screw driver or is it something you have to buy separately?
4. I remember in the anime the God Gundamn uses that Street Fighter, Hadooken move. Does this Masterpiece come with the Hadooken clear effect part? I think I saw some DArt MegaMan toys that have the blaster effect pieces that you needed to paint up or something.
5. What does it mean that these 2 Masterpiece Gundam models cost ¥2500 yen yet? Does it mean that these two will cost ¥5000? Like $500 USA dollars? Why are they so expensive?! How come some people afford buy so many?
6. I was told that the Masterpiece Gundamn models have a frame or something you need to build? What is that and how come the Shining and God Gundamn have a huge hole when you take off the colorful parts? Is that a defect or something that the makers screws up on or is this normal for Masterpiece Gundamn models?
7. Since these models are over 10 years old, does that mean that the makers will make a new version with upgrade pieces and stuff like game companies that remake their game systems every few years with upgrade parts?
8. Did the maker make a Masterpiece model for the Riser Gundamn and the Satan Gundamn? Oh and what about that Nobul?
9. Are the Masterpiece model hard to make?

Sorry if I am asking a lot of questions. I just finished watching the anime TV episodes for Gundamn G and it was fun. It was like Street Fighter, Mega Man, Naruto, Devil May Cry, and Tekken mixed up but with robots.

Galaxian 2014-02-10 14:46

After that episode of Build Fighters, I want Kampfer Amazing + Amazing Binder.

StrikeFreedomV2 2014-02-10 15:04

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Originally Posted by Galaxian (Post 5007602)
After that episode of Build Fighters, I want Kampfer Amazing + Amazing Binder.

And I a GM Sniper K9 :D

Skye629 2014-02-10 15:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor (Post 5007416)
...and it's green (like the actual military)! What's not to like? :D

The K9 pack? I dont quite dig it despite its smart "tactical" use

I hope it comes with the parts for the normal backpack/thrusters, thats the main deciding factor for me it seems

I dig everything else

crazycollectorhd 2014-02-10 16:28

So no one has answers for me? =(

Aurelis 2014-02-10 17:01

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Originally Posted by crazycollectorhd (Post 5007697)
So no one has answers for me? =(

Hey, do you have a YouTube channel and a blog? ;)

I'd just like to say that 2500 yen is only about 25 USD, so you can compare with online retailers, like Amazon, Gundamguy or if you're planning for bulk purchases, directly from Japan's HLJ or Hobby Search.

crazycollectorhd 2014-02-10 17:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aurelis (Post 5007731)
Hey, do you have a YouTube channel and a blog? ;)

No? Should I go make one?

Providenceangle 2014-02-10 21:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skye629 (Post 5007641)
The K9 pack? I dont quite dig it despite its smart "tactical" use

I hope it comes with the parts for the normal backpack/thrusters, thats the main deciding factor for me it seems

I dig everything else

That's the "whole" point of the k9 unit though. For the K9 backpack. I guess the option parts make the GM cooler, but you should just stick to the GM Sniper II. If you don't mind spending, you could kit bash the K9 HG with gm sniper II's backpack.

Skye629 2014-02-11 00:14

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Originally Posted by Providenceangle (Post 5007922)
That's the "whole" point of the k9 unit though. For the K9 backpack. I guess the option parts make the GM cooler, but you should just stick to the GM Sniper II. If you don't mind spending, you could kit bash the K9 HG with gm sniper II's backpack.

I don't like the normal sniper's colors as much though lol (I love military green colors to death)

And the K9 got freaking dual pistols, which Im a HUGE sucker for, and it got 2 sniper rifles

As for kit bashing....the problem is I dont have green to paint the backpack of the normal II if the K9 does not come with it ._.

I wonder what other packs the GM Sniper back can take, perhaps I may have other options out there

Aurelis 2014-02-11 02:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skye629 (Post 5008085)
I wonder what other packs the GM Sniper back can take, perhaps I may have other options out there

Assemble the K9 pack but without any of the limbs and stick verniers into the hollow points :heh:

Alternatively, something like the Gunpla Battle Arms or Build Booster MK-II may fit well.

I'm not a fan of the K9 backpack itself since it looks like a dead dog. I just wished that I had an extra Ground Gundam weapons container backpack.

Skye629 2014-02-11 03:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aurelis (Post 5008192)
Assemble the K9 pack but without any of the limbs and stick verniers into the hollow points :heh:

Alternatively, something like the Gunpla Battle Arms or Build Booster MK-II may fit well.

I'm not a fan of the K9 backpack itself since it looks like a dead dog. I just wished that I had an extra Ground Gundam weapons container backpack.



If the legs are attached through standard sized pegs and polycaps......

O GOD GREAT IDEA!

Im gonna stick the FREAKING AMAZING WEAPONS BINDER TO THE GM SNIPER K9

How thats for IRONY and AWESOMENESS???!!!



I pray to god this connection is compatible :D

RRW 2014-02-11 07:17

First Meijin Kampfer Amazing

https://twitter.com/KawaguchiMeijin/...33419710070785

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BgFgwKTCQAIBiAK.jpg:large

his other stuff

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZ2BB-mCEAAe6A-.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bd5kgIiCAAA8m7r.jpg

Providenceangle 2014-02-11 09:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skye629 (Post 5008085)
I don't like the normal sniper's colors as much though lol (I love military green colors to death)

And the K9 got freaking dual pistols, which Im a HUGE sucker for, and it got 2 sniper rifles

As for kit bashing....the problem is I dont have green to paint the backpack of the normal II if the K9 does not come with it ._.

I wonder what other packs the GM Sniper back can take, perhaps I may have other options out there

You can't afford paint? I'll give you a good tip. Buy cheap craft acrylic paint(s). Black would be a good colour to go with that kit, or you can buy the paints to make the colour. Practice mixing and paint something and let it dry. Buy a cheap brush. Water down the paint till it's a little thicker then milk, brush some onto a piece you don't care about( the k9 unit! :D ), test to make sure the paint levels and doesn't have brush strokes. It will take a few coats, due to the paint being thin. Flat coat to protect and you're done.

For those who can't airbrush or spray can, this is a good method that works. Hand brushing just takes longer, but with patience you can get similar results to airbrushing.

ZeroXSEED 2014-02-11 09:16

Just to make sure, PMC Astray came with two head right? (Gundam head and Visor head)

I was thinking of buying DSSD version but there's too many red suit in my collection already.

firefox 2014-02-11 09:23

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Originally Posted by ZeroXSEED (Post 5008420)
Just to make sure, PMC Astray came with two head right? (Gundam head and Visor head)

I was thinking of buying DSSD version but there's too many red suit in my collection already.

Must be the only 1/144 Hg seed kit i did not build.

You can check parts for a kit on dalong or 1999.co/jp/eng

Providenceangle 2014-02-11 09:46

The colours for the sniper k9 aren't that appealing....

http://gundamguy.blogspot.ca/2014/02...er-manual.html

Why doesn't it look like the box art?

ZeroXSEED 2014-02-11 10:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Providenceangle (Post 5008441)
Why doesn't it look like the box art?

Oh God

It's SEED all over again :(

Wasn't Delta Plus also just as bad in terms of accuracy? I remember Aurelis said something about it.

Znozzy 2014-02-11 10:21

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Originally Posted by ZeroXSEED (Post 5008458)
Oh God

It's SEED all over again :(

Wasn't Delta Plus also just as bad in terms of accuracy? I remember Aurelis said something about it.

Dunno about the Delta, but the Rozen Zulu is horrendous out of the box compared to it's boxart/anime counterpart.

Obelisk ze Tormentor 2014-02-11 10:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Providenceangle (Post 5008441)
The colours for the sniper k9 aren't that appealing....

http://gundamguy.blogspot.ca/2014/02...er-manual.html

Why doesn't it look like the box art?

I don’t think the color is bad. The boxart simply has the shadowing effect that makes the color looks cooler than it really is. Well, if anything, at least this is not a coloring-disaster like the Rozen Zulu.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeroXSEED (Post 5008458)
Wasn't Delta Plus also just as bad in terms of accuracy? I remember Aurelis said something about it.

I remember someone argued that the HG Delta Plus is leaning more towards the novel version while the MG represents the OVA version. I don't remember where though.

Providenceangle 2014-02-11 13:02

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Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor (Post 5008518)
I don’t think the color is bad. The boxart simply has the shadowing effect that makes the color looks cooler than it really is. Well, if anything, at least this is not a coloring-disaster like the Rozen Zulu.

I remember someone argued that the HG Delta Plus is leaning more towards the novel version while the MG represents the OVA version. I don't remember where though.

I'm afraid it's not shadowing. The kit doesn't have the same colours. At least not the example I posted. The "greens" are wrong. Is it a problem? For those who don't paint, yeah. For me no. Still a kit I'll buy.

Skye629 2014-02-11 17:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Providenceangle (Post 5008416)
You can't afford paint? I'll give you a good tip. Buy cheap craft acrylic paint(s). Black would be a good colour to go with that kit, or you can buy the paints to make the colour. Practice mixing and paint something and let it dry. Buy a cheap brush. Water down the paint till it's a little thicker then milk, brush some onto a piece you don't care about( the k9 unit! :D ), test to make sure the paint levels and doesn't have brush strokes. It will take a few coats, due to the paint being thin. Flat coat to protect and you're done.

For those who can't airbrush or spray can, this is a good method that works. Hand brushing just takes longer, but with patience you can get similar results to airbrushing.

Its not that I cant afford paint, my living conditions don;t permit it, and I have no good way of ventilating the smell which is toxic and I hate

Quote:

Originally Posted by Providenceangle (Post 5008441)
The colours for the sniper k9 aren't that appealing....

http://gundamguy.blogspot.ca/2014/02...er-manual.html

Why doesn't it look like the box art?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeroXSEED (Post 5008458)
Oh God

It's SEED all over again :(

Wasn't Delta Plus also just as bad in terms of accuracy? I remember Aurelis said something about it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Providenceangle (Post 5008597)
I'm afraid it's not shadowing. The kit doesn't have the same colours. At least not the example I posted. The "greens" are wrong. Is it a problem? For those who don't paint, yeah. For me no. Still a kit I'll buy.

As Obelisk pointed out, there IS some shadow effect going on the box

Also, you have to consider the lighting used to take the pictures, it seems to be very brightly lit. I would expect the color to be about the same as the HGUC Stark Jegan IRL

The dark green does appear to be a bit too dark though, even considering lighting



And HOORAAYYY!!!! It got all the normal old parts, Imma get nao




As for the Delta Plus, that was due to a design change, the kit was released a good few months before the actual episode (around episode 2). The purple adheres more towards the original colors of brownish purple. By the time 3 rolled around, they had changed the design slightly, and given it a new color scheme

Providenceangle 2014-02-11 18:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skye629 (Post 5008829)
Its not that I cant afford paint, my living conditions don;t permit it, and I have no good way of ventilating the smell which is toxic and I hate

Water based acrylics don't have a harsh smell. So long as you're hand brushing they don't give of VOC(vapor on contact). It would be Aerosolization that causes most VOCs. Not to mention thinning need to achieve proper Aerosolization. That's what makes spay paints smell so bad. The solvents used to thin them.

If you do not want to not paint, don't. It's your choice. I'm just offering advice.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Skye629 (Post 5008829)
As Obelisk pointed out, there IS some shadow effect going on the box

Also, you have to consider the lighting used to take the pictures, it seems to be very brightly lit. I would expect the color to be about the same as the HGUC Stark Jegan IRL

The dark green does appear to be a bit too dark though, even considering lighting

Even with the light, the colour is off a lot. You can try and justify it by saying it's got lighting and shadow on the box art, but even compared to pictures of the kit, the greens aren't well done. The reason why I say this is the plastic itself is mixed wrong, for the colour. I worked injection plastics for 4 years. I know the ins and outs of what bandai does. It could be just a batch that is wrong, but a manger at bandai deemed it good enough to ship. Maybe they changed their mind on the production colour, or there was an issue with material.

If it was a matter of being colour blind, I could understand. Sadly I'm not the only one who's notice the difference.

Skye629 2014-02-11 18:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Providenceangle (Post 5008848)
Water based acrylics don't have a harsh smell. So long as you hand brushing they don't give of VOC(vapor on contact). It would be Aerosolization that causes most VOCs. Not to mention thinning need to achieve proper Aerosolization. That's what makes spay paints smell so bad. The solvents used to thin them.

If you do not want to not paint, don't. It's your choice. I'm just offering advice.



Even with the light, the colour is off a lot. You can try and justify it by saying it's got lighting and shadow on the box art, but even compared to pictures of the kit, the greens aren't well done. The reason why I say this is the plastic itself is mixed wrong, for the colour. I worked injection plastics for 4 years. I know the ins and outs of what bandai does. It could be just a batch that is wrong, but a manger at bandai deemed it good enough to ship. Maybe they changed their mind on the production colour, or there was an issue with material.

If it was a matter of being colour blind, I could understand. Sadly I'm not the only one who's notice the difference.

Maybe its just my eyes then ._.

Providenceangle 2014-02-11 18:57

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Originally Posted by Skye629 (Post 5008855)
Maybe its just my eyes then ._.

You could be allergic to the chemicals in paints. I'm not saying no. You'd really suffer if you had to deal with plastic... I probably destroyed my lungs lol. Not to mention pvc and acetal plastics create chlorine gas if heated and mixed... That happened one time too :D

Skye629 2014-02-11 22:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Providenceangle (Post 5008897)
You could be allergic to the chemicals in paints. I'm not saying no. You'd really suffer if you had to deal with plastic... I probably destroyed my lungs lol. Not to mention pvc and acetal plastics create chlorine gas if heated and mixed... That happened one time too :D

I was referring in my comment to the plate colors lol

As for actual paint, part of it for me are the health risks, I simply don't dig it, the most Im willing to use are Gundam Markers, they get the job done for me :P



BTW: DROOLS
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-fr-ovw5q3B...BANM140305.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-63EnXDOoLW...BANM140306.jpg

ZeroXSEED 2014-02-11 23:03

No matter how I look at it, Banshee is fucking ugly

Probably because of the deer horn.

Obelisk ze Tormentor 2014-02-12 06:39

Wait, Banshee’s armor is solid black now? :twitch: Since when? I recall HG Banshee Norn [Unicorn mode] was still dark-blue.

Skye629 2014-02-12 19:43

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Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor (Post 5009328)
Wait, Banshee’s armor is solid black now? :twitch: Since when? I recall HG Banshee Norn [Unicorn mode] was still dark-blue.

Probably this is just fully painted

Aurelis 2014-02-12 19:49

Yup, that looks painted, just like how they portray the Banshee in black but it's actually dark blue. I think the black matches the clear frame better than dark blue.

I wonder why they went with this decision since I've gotten black plastics in Deathsycthe, Psyco and Seraphim. I did get some dubious dark purple/blue with HGFC Master Gundam though.

ZeroXSEED 2014-02-12 22:05

Does anyone here have experience with Koto's armored core? I want to know if the weapon system is compatible with Gundam HG models

Aurelis 2014-02-12 22:33

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Originally Posted by ZeroXSEED (Post 5010043)
Does anyone here have experience with Koto's armored core? I want to know if the weapon system is compatible with Gundam HG models

Even though it states 1/72 scale, I bought the following weapons pack and equipped the Fenrir rifle to my HGUC 1/144 Ex-S Gundam. It fitted in the trigger hand nicely although the Ex-S has rather large hands than the normal HGUC kit.

http://i.imgur.com/JHY3Tw2.jpg

If anything, you can try shaving off the handle slightly, perhaps that will allow it to fit.

Size-wise, it seems comparatively similar to the 1/144 weapons.

ZeroXSEED 2014-02-12 22:37

1/72 huh? Thanks

Armored Cores are 10 meters tall, so that scale is perfect :)


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