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SoranGTR 2006-10-06 14:21

I just showed my friend the article on MG Strike Freedom. His wallet will be on fire for quite a while (This is a guy that bought the HG 1/144, 1/100 and the Lightning Edition of the Strike Freedom, go figure...:eyespin: :eyespin: :eyespin: )

Clem_Master_Janitor 2006-10-06 16:15

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Originally Posted by McChar
are these bandai or garage kits?

I'm not sure exactly. Might be garaged. Was hoping some one had a clue here. I've been asking around, making the rounds from model forums to gundam-ish forums and I just can't get much info.

Clem_Master_Janitor 2006-10-06 16:19

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Originally Posted by kct
Those are (most likely) garage conversion kits.

What's the odds those kits are any good?

Okay, I take that back. They're B-club conversion kits. Some one just pointed it out to me on another message board and at the price they're asking on this site, it's a steal. Some of them are almost $20-40 cheaper from HLJ's price listings. Of course their FA-78-1 conversion kits looks awesome, if you have $118 dollars to spend on the kit alone. Too bad they discontinued the Shiki Kai Production version. Always a bummer but what can a person do? At least I have a lot more information then I went into this with.

Any info on how hard resin kits are to work with versus the standard model kit plastic? Or is 'resin' a fancy way to say 'plastic' so they can tag on a few extra bucks?

dodgethis_sg 2006-10-06 19:10

Hobby Fan sells nothing but garage kits ie not from B-club. Kinda like bootlegs.

Resin is a completely new monster from polystyrene.

Cody's site here pretty much details on how to work with it. Sure, this site is for figures but the basics are there.

http://codyscoop.com/howto.html

One more thing about buying garage kits. These repops usually have little to no QC. After the first few moldings, resins molds (made of silicone) start to wear out and have problems like disfiguring, meaning that the subsequent runs will not be as good as the originals. Sometimes, it's worth buying the originals.

M_Flores 2006-10-06 20:07

Hmm... perhaps those option parts would be like how Destiny and Strike Freedom no-grade 1/100s got extra joints? Not like an MG needs extra joints anyway... I'm really curious to what they'll be!
Nevertheless, I'm am dead set gonna fucking pay 7000y for this shit, being the ultimate Kira/Freedom fanboy out - I still do NOT own any of the Freedom gunplas at all yet - so this MG Strike Freedom will have to be my prime model kit - so I better get the best out of it!

LightningZERO 2006-10-07 10:15

I really hate MG's hands. It's cool since the fingers can move (well, not all) but those hands can't really grab the weapons. This is the case with my Crossbone Gundam. I have to use double side tape instead to make him hold his Beam Zamber...

Clem_Master_Janitor 2006-10-07 10:23

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Originally Posted by dodgethis_sg (Post 698464)
Hobby Fan sells nothing but garage kits ie not from B-club. Kinda like bootlegs.

Resin is a completely new monster from polystyrene.

Cody's site here pretty much details on how to work with it. Sure, this site is for figures but the basics are there.

http://codyscoop.com/howto.html

One more thing about buying garage kits. These repops usually have little to no QC. After the first few moldings, resins molds (made of silicone) start to wear out and have problems like disfiguring, meaning that the subsequent runs will not be as good as the originals. Sometimes, it's worth buying the originals.

Thanks for the info. It explains a lot.

Meehlimo 2006-10-07 10:49

Maybe MG strike freedoms special option is something from the new movie comming out just a guess tho.

amc 2006-10-07 20:44

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Originally Posted by Meehlimo (Post 699143)
Maybe MG strike freedoms special option is something from the new movie comming out just a guess tho.


Im not quite sure if any body got what i said earlier...but....1/100 Freedom stinks so bad that I had a better time putting together 1/144 Heavyarms Custom! anybody agree?

Meehlimo 2006-10-07 21:54

I hope you dont mean the MG freedom thats one very well made model everything is how it should be on that kit.

SNT1 2006-10-07 21:58

the MG Freedom is a nice kit, but only if its on its stand. Damn thing can't stand up properly due to uber back-heavy wings.

MG WZC suffers the same back-heaviness, but its wings are long enough that the tips can make for a pseudo-stand.

amc 2006-10-07 22:12

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Originally Posted by Meehlimo (Post 699747)
I hope you dont mean the MG freedom thats one very well made model everything is how it should be on that kit.

Nope regualar 1/100...it sucks.

Shinji103 2006-10-08 00:03

I think all MGs should come with stands. Seriously. Models have only so much poseability on the ground, but they have full useage of their poseability on a stand. I know that there are model stands sold seperately, but it would be much more convenient if the MGs themselves came with plastic stands.

But then, there are several things that I think they should do for MGs that they probably will never do. Like making MG versions of the Launcher and Sword Strikers, instead of leaving us with having to get those overpriced B-Club parts that let us connect the regular HG 1/100 Sword and Launcher packs to the MG Strike. With that setup, you have to get three different kits plus the expensive B-Club parts to have all three modes of the Strike on your MG. And the Sword and Launcher packs won't even be MG quality. (the MG version of the Aile pack is soooo much better looking the HG 1/100 version or even the 1/60 version) Bleh.

SNT1 2006-10-08 00:15

I dont like stands as much. It jacks up the $$$. thats just me, of course, as some people want to save the trouble of buying a good stand on HLJ...

...but I can't stand the Raflessia on the F91 >.<;;

duotiga 2006-10-08 00:17

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Originally Posted by SNT1 (Post 699882)
I dont like stands as much. It jacks up the $$$. thats just me, of course, as some people want to save the trouble of buying a good stand on HLJ...

...but I can't stand the Raflessia on the F91 >.<;;

i dont mind forking out more for the stand....guess to individual preferences.....

i also cant stand F91 stand also - -

Shinji103 2006-10-08 00:23

I've never been able to find any MG-use stands though, the ones I can find on HLJ are called mini stands and the decriptions say they're for HGUCs.

SNT1 2006-10-08 00:24

Heh, I actually thought the 1/100 GSD stands are pretty neat (prty colors o.o), maybe because its free if you order the 1st batch on the japanese stores; the NA stores mark up the 1st.ed so much (as high as 14 bucks!)

DarkWarrior 2006-10-08 00:25

I don't mind simple stands that don't add too much to the price. Like Freedom's stand, or Wing Zero.

But I can't stand it when Bandai goes "LOLZ HUGE DISPLAY STAND FTW" and includes something ridiculous.. like Zeta 2.0's Argama catapult deck. Those things really jack up the price. Not to mention they take up a lot of space.

M_Flores 2006-10-08 00:28

IMO, stands are a must. It's the ultimate accessory for displaying purposes.
You can do many more 'in flight' poses on a stand than you can with the kit without one. In fact, although it might never happen, I'd wish stands became standard issue for all the kits by default.

But yeah, normal 1/100 Freedom as well as normal 1/100 Strike Freedom are horribly disproportioned. Their wings are tiny and they joints are fat. 1/100 Destiny was really good though - the proportions were a little close to almost being MG quality.

Oh, btw, F91 stand looks gay. Though it makes sense canon-wise, it just looks awkward when you look at it on display. Its as if F91 is flying over a giant tomato with wires (raflessia).

I think more main AU mechas should get MG treatments, like XX, Wing Zero (no ver. ka, no endless waltz, just Wing Zero from the show with birdmode), and at least an MG Turn A Gundam or some thing. The CE series got their flagship MS's MG'ed, I think the other AU's would be cool too.

Shinji103 2006-10-08 00:37

And don't forget MG V2 A/B!

With the release of the MG F-91, Victory is now the only UC animated production without an MG. Heck, even Crossbone and Sentinel got MGs despite being manga series-es. I think they might release MG Victory before MG V2, though.

And yes, MG Double X, normal Wing Zero, and Turn A would rock. :)

SNT1 2006-10-08 00:40

Hazel/Beltorchika's Children still has no MG love >.<

Shinji103 2006-10-08 00:42

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Originally Posted by SNT1 (Post 699923)
Hazel/Beltorchika's Children still has no MG love >.<

Well, Hi Nu Gundam has a conversion kit for the MG Nu Gundam. Victory remains deprived of anything resembling MG greatness.

Although it's true, we need a true MG Hi Nu Gundam and Nightengale. MG Hazels would be cool too. :)

C'mon, Bandai! Get over your CE cash-cowing and give us our classics!

Tak 2006-10-08 01:02

Hmm, I don't know about the Hi-Nu, I am sure you know, its not really a Mobile Suit from any Gundam franchise...

Oh, and don't completely look down on the HG Strike/Freedom, there are a lot of parts you can salvage to complement your MG kits ;)

- Tak

kct 2006-10-08 01:31

Not to mention 'convert an MG Freedom into anything else' thing. Someone here bought 3 MG Freedoms for only that.

wavehawk 2006-10-08 01:53

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Originally Posted by LightningZERO (Post 699097)
I really hate MG's hands. It's cool since the fingers can move (well, not all) but those hands can't really grab the weapons. This is the case with my Crossbone Gundam. I have to use double side tape instead to make him hold his Beam Zamber...

- There's a REASON why there's this little place where the trigger grip is supposed to connect to the hand, you know. :eyebrow: I have the Gundam MK-ii Ver 2.0 MG, and it's quite decent when holding weaponry. The F91/Crossbone hands have the same type of connector. Maybe you're just having the hand alone hold the weapon, and not actually attaching it to the connector?

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Originally Posted by Meehlimo
Maybe MG strike freedoms special option is something from the new movie comming out just a guess tho.

- Urm...a DVD of Bandai upcoming gunpla catalog? (Cynical)

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Originally Posted by Tak
Oh, and don't completely look down on the Strike/Freedom, there are a lot of parts you can salvage to complement your MG kits

- And wouldn't you know it, I need o get parts for an F91 custom I'm working on...but you didn't hear that from me.

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Originally Posted by kct
Not to mention 'convert an MG Freedom into anything else' thing. Someone here bought 3 MG Freedoms for only that.

-That's true. Hobby Japan cannibalized parts from an MG Freedom to make an MG-quality Galbaldy Beta from Zeta Gundam (Movie version). I should scan that eventually.

Tak 2006-10-08 01:57

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Originally Posted by kct (Post 699970)
Not to mention 'convert an MG Freedom into anything else' thing. Someone here bought 3 MG Freedoms for only that.

That would be me :p

- Tak

wavehawk 2006-10-08 02:01

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Originally Posted by Tak (Post 699982)
That would be me :p

- Care to tell us what you had in mind to do to these? ;)

Tak 2006-10-08 02:35

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Originally Posted by wavehawk (Post 699984)
- Care to tell us what you had in mind to do to these? ;)

With one of them, I plan to use a different color scheme, because you know how I hate default HERO GUNDAM COLORS. The second one, I am going to be as original as I can with it. As of yet, I have no basis planned for the second kit.

The third one merely functions as a backup in case the second one fails :p

I use the HG 1/100 kits as practice before I construct their immediate MG counterparts, if you know what I mean.

- Tak (But most importantly, I need time, it takes nearly a week to get anything done *grumble*)

SoranGTR 2006-10-08 07:03

My newest kit, which took me 2 days to put together. The first PG kit i ever bought and boy, did it blow a hole in my wallet

With its LEDs on


SIEG HARUHI!!!

Meehlimo 2006-10-08 10:05

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Originally Posted by wavehawk (Post 699981)
- There's a REASON why there's this little place where the trigger grip is supposed to connect to the hand, you know. :eyebrow: I have the Gundam MK-ii Ver 2.0 MG, and it's quite decent when holding weaponry. The F91/Crossbone hands have the same type of connector. Maybe you're just having the hand alone hold the weapon, and not actually attaching it to the connector?*)

No on the bean zamber there is no peg for where the hand peg is suposed to attach. im kindda pissed myself i had to heat up the end of a jewlers screwdriver and made one for it.

Tak 2006-10-08 11:10

Hey SoranGTR, ya gonna paint that? Its an utter waste if you get a PG kit, and not do anything to enhance its quality. ;)

- Tak

SoranGTR 2006-10-08 11:59

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Originally Posted by Tak (Post 700327)
Hey SoranGTR, ya gonna paint that? Its an utter waste if you get a PG kit, and not do anything to enhance its quality. ;)

- Tak

I'm trying to perfect my painting techniques first on my HG kits first, before i try them on my pride and joy...:heh: :heh: :heh:

No airbrush means any painting i do will be with hand brushes, not to mention i have no idea how to use a air-brush, although i have quite abit of hand-painting experience from painting Battletech metal minis...

My painting attempts on my HG 1/144 kits

Tak 2006-10-08 12:54

^ Those aren't bad. I like the Prov. especially. Keep it up.

Seriously, you can take the worst piece of crap model, but with a good paint job, you can make it look just as professional. Its all about the paint man, the paint... (and polish)

- Tak

J_Ridden 2006-10-08 13:55

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Originally Posted by SoranGTR (Post 700370)
I'm trying to perfect my painting techniques first on my HG kits first, before i try them on my pride and joy...:heh: :heh: :heh:

No airbrush means any painting i do will be with hand brushes, not to mention i have no idea how to use a air-brush, although i have quite abit of hand-painting experience from painting Battletech metal minis...

My painting attempts on my HG 1/144 kits

They look good, even though it looks like you painted only minor details. I like Strike Noir's head. Did you have fun painting all of Legend's DRAGOON's beam guns? :p I had so much troubles with the 1:100 version, I can't imagine what it's like with the 1:144 one. What did you use to make the pannel lines?

SoranGTR 2006-10-08 14:15

Well, i'm not very fussy as a modeller. If the plastic's color looks close to how the Gundam looks in the anime, i leave it alone. However, HG 1/144 kits have this tendency to come with a lot of parts in one solid color (like Legend's beam rifle for instance), which to me screams "start painting". My mininum standard is for them to look like how they do in the anime.

Legend's DRAGOON's beam guns were a pain to do, especially since there are 8 small ones and 2 big ones. The small black and red sections on them were done with my smallest brush, which took quite a while. Panel-lining, i use a Sakura Micron 0.25mm pen.

Syn13 2006-10-08 16:44

Building the X1 right now, maybe I haven't build a MG in a while but the pieces seem smaller and harder so now my fingers are in pain! Spent some couple of hours on it and only built the body, right arm and head. The skull heart piece for the chest doesn't snap in so I had to use some cement glue for it...

Hmmm, the replaced plastice for the polycap kinda scare me because I'm afraid for I adjust it alot, the plastic will grind...Hows everyone's MG F91's joints, are they holding up good after alot of movement?

kct 2006-10-08 16:56

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Originally Posted by Tak (Post 700005)
With one of them, I plan to use a different color scheme, because you know how I hate default HERO GUNDAM COLORS.

Like the MG Freedom ---> Strike Freedom from G-CUSTOM? That one looks kind of cool.

Tak 2006-10-08 20:08

G-Custom is a very great site for modeling references. If I can ever be as good as him, which requires not only skill but a lot of freetime (& money, that always helps), then I will be satisified. In the mean time... I've got a mountain worth of kits to do :p

- Tak

strike66 2006-10-08 21:45

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Originally Posted by SoranGTR (Post 700171)
My newest kit, which took me 2 days to put together. The first PG kit i ever bought and boy, did it blow a hole in my wallet

Nice wzc soran, just wondering, do u have problems with the wzc wings drooping down? my pg has that problem when i try to get it in that pose where it has its wings spread out

duotiga 2006-10-09 08:50

1/100 Saviour Boxart Preview

http://img2.imagepile.net/img2/10626...c9f7e7616a.jpg

seems like those 5 early members who send their address can get preorder their Saviour earlier......


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