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LoweGear 2007-03-05 23:19

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Originally Posted by mangatron (Post 853255)
You do mean Zero unit right? Because if I remember the english dub well, there were 3 of the kind (Zero (1?), Wing Zero[first use of zero system] and Wing Zero Custom).

I kinda like that one too, the first re-entry scene was nice.

Erh... There are only two Zero designs in existence. The first is the Wing Zero TV series version (the one M_Flores was talking about, designed by Okawara), and the Wing Zero Custom, which retcons the TV series design, so they're one and the same mecha. You're confusing the Wing Gundam (which is referred to as Unit 01) for the Wing Gundam Zero.

mangatron 2007-03-05 23:29

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Originally Posted by LoweGear (Post 853299)
Erh... There are only two Zero designs in existence. The first is the Wing Zero TV series version (the one M_Flores was talking about, designed by Okawara), and the Wing Zero Custom, which retcons the TV series design, so they're one and the same mecha. You're confusing the Wing Gundam (which is referred to as Unit 01) for the Wing Gundam Zero.

Uhm, I was talking in a Model Kit sense..... :uhoh: :heh:

And yeah, Custom sure gives it's name away :heh:

Hmm, we could use some more options for the 100th MG candidate. I can only wonder....

LoweGear 2007-03-05 23:39

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Originally Posted by mangatron (Post 853310)
Uhm, I was talking in a Model Kit sense..... :uhoh: :heh:

And yeah, Custom sure gives it's name away :heh:

Hmm, we could use some more options for the 100th MG candidate. I can only wonder....

You did refer to the english TV dub and the Zero system as reference :heh: And besides, there are only two designs for the Zero as a model.

Anyways, an Okawara Zero would be nice to see in MG form, although I imagine it'll be reproportioned by BEE-Craft to actually look better than the HG models.

sx3 2007-03-06 00:11

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Originally Posted by GameraBaenre (Post 852790)
As stated, the Hi Nu colors are the Hi Nu colors. There are no variants that are known, with the exception of some of the first artist renditions and how it was presented in the book. Is it that difficult to actually paint a model? Seems a lot easier than waiting for a recolor doesn't it?

ahahah it WOULD be BUT unfortunately i've never air brushed or even own a air brush machine etc. to make a model of that calibur, currently since all my old models were scrapped, i have 1 destiny gundam which is just painted in a shine or glossy coating whatever you wanna call it :heh: someday i will learn to airbrush and everything than i will buy a hi nu and make one as sexy as the one shown in the earlier picture :eyespin:

GameraBaenre 2007-03-06 04:23

You don't need to airbrush. They sell cans of spray paint. They sell bottles of paint and you can hand brush. With enough patience, you could make it look just as good as the pictures you see. The Hi Nu is just one kit that will probably never get a recolor because it is a one of a kind MS, similar to the Sazabi.

wavehawk 2007-03-06 04:52

Airbrushes are great for even coats and certain effects, such as stencils (for patterns), and 'spatter' effects. The only problem is that it's a bit of an investment. If you've got the time and are willing to learn, airbrushing model kits isn't only fun, you can learn a few things that could help you if you want a job in arts and craftsmanship.

I don't use an airbrush because of the investment costs plus the fact I only rent my flat; but I do use spray paint and spray primer for my kits. I still use brush paint for the details and most of the paint schemes, though. I'll probably not be able to make the really cool stuff you see on Japanese sites, but I think that even with just brush painting, you can create a really good outcome on your gunpla.

LoweGear 2007-03-06 12:12

Pics of MG Zaku II Ver. 2.0 from Shizuoka:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y77...Zaku2ver21.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y77...Zaku2ver22.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y77...Zaku2ver23.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y77...ver2cables.jpg

Fome 2007-03-06 14:01

Wow, I'm amazed that they engineered it so that we don't have to assemble the pipes around the head and waist. Those were just tedious and a drag.

GameraBaenre 2007-03-06 14:29

And we only have to sand one side of the cables, not 2 or 3... WOOHOO!

sx3 2007-03-07 00:45

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Originally Posted by GameraBaenre (Post 853558)
You don't need to airbrush. They sell cans of spray paint. They sell bottles of paint and you can hand brush. With enough patience, you could make it look just as good as the pictures you see. The Hi Nu is just one kit that will probably never get a recolor because it is a one of a kind MS, similar to the Sazabi.

thats a good idea lol cans of spray paint i never even thougth of that :S maybe there is still hope for me :D itd be hard to get the right colour of goldish yellow for hi nu tho :S and i wanna replace the orange eyes with green

Egao 2007-03-07 09:40

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Originally Posted by GameraBaenre (Post 854050)
And we only have to sand one side of the cables, not 2 or 3... WOOHOO!

Yeah. They are pretty much a pain to sand. :) I usually line them up nice and tight on a BBQ stick or on a wire before sanding them. These parts are undoubtedly the most hated on any MG Zaku.

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s...3072007320.jpg

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s...2007002320.jpg

I notice that all the cable pipes in MG Ver 2.0 Zakus are straight, unlike their previous design where there are triangular and trapezoidal cut pipes. Can anybody confirm this? :D

philmein 2007-03-07 10:55

Anyone own the Zeta 2.0? I'm thinking about buying it later (either the regular or the limited edition version). WHat are the flaws btw?

Kittie Rose 2007-03-07 14:10

Wow, that's pretty good. I'd love a good 1/144 scale Gouf or Zaku.

bl_asd 2007-03-07 21:01

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Originally Posted by philmein (Post 854903)
Anyone own the Zeta 2.0? I'm thinking about buying it later (either the regular or the limited edition version). WHat are the flaws btw?

i do, just got it last week, the only flaw is that they changed the propotion of the legs. The thigh is too long and lower part is too short. However, you can buy the old 1/100 kit that was released 1985 and change out the entire leg and make it look normal again :P I'm still in the process of converting. I can comfirm that even you switch legs out, it can still be transform and stuff. I'll post pictures after I finish my zeta convertion. give me a month or so :P

kct 2007-03-07 21:05

Actually, the Zeta 2.0 is good right out of the assembly.

The leanless is maybe influenced by the Ka look.

philmein 2007-03-07 22:07

I might just buy the regular 2.0 edition. WIll there be any difference between that and the limited edition? Just different colors, correct?

silencer.001 2007-03-08 04:29

yep, the color is the only difference, everything else, exactly the same :D

mangatron 2007-03-08 07:01

Nice update of the Zaku II, I've been meaning to dive into that more, considering the old Zaku MG kit's were so.....unarticulatable :heh: :heh:

And, not sure if this has been discussed yet, I'm wondering if anyone saw the update on MG Strike Noir. Which, if no one is interested consider this a post for kct only lol:heh:. Apparently, straight from Bandai themselves they said the MG Strike Noir's "Appearance and specification are totally recreated, based on MG Strike Freedom, with new parts and inner mechanics." Now that is what I'm talking about. Make this like the 4th MG Strike concoction, but this time with new technology. Very nice, with a MG SF frame this will be amazing. Hope it's true, because I can see kct's gonna beg me for one now :heh: :heh:

This is why I keep slapping you with one, I have faith in the Strike Noir! :heh:

Bandai hobbie site ;)

And it seems the Akatsuki has ABS in it's joints to strengthen the limbs for poses. Understandable considering the backpack options :p

kct 2007-03-08 07:56

Actually I've heard of that for some time now -_-;;; .

M_Flores 2007-03-08 17:37

This is really sad, but the right wing of my MG SF has worn because the little binder that rotates the mechanism inside didn't seem to clip on properly like the left one did (dunno if that's my fault or the defect of the kit), so now I'm gonna buy the normal MG SF just for that one little part. That's really sad, but seeing how I like this kit so much, I wouldn't mind spending more just to get more spare parts, lol, in any case, I get new (better) decals from the normal MG SF kit.
Actually, I can always bag myself a Hi-n instead :)

philmein 2007-03-08 21:33

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Originally Posted by M_Flores (Post 856434)
This is really sad, but the right wing of my MG SF has worn because the little binder that rotates the mechanism inside didn't seem to clip on properly like the left one did (dunno if that's my fault or the defect of the kit), so now I'm gonna buy the normal MG SF just for that one little part. That's really sad, but seeing how I like this kit so much, I wouldn't mind spending more just to get more spare parts, lol, in any case, I get new (better) decals from the normal MG SF kit.
Actually, I can always bag myself a Hi-n instead :)

Yup, same here. The right wing's clip totally tore up so it can't fully rotate without coming loose. I'm utterly disappointed. Oh well, the rest is all good. But I must say, the wings for this unit is extremely disappointing. Oh well, I still have the Hi-Nu and potentially the Zeta Gundam.

Deus EpS Machina 2007-03-09 11:23

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Originally Posted by mangatron (Post 855901)
Nice update of the Zaku II, I've been meaning to dive into that more, considering the old Zaku MG kit's were so.....unarticulatable :heh: :heh:

And, not sure if this has been discussed yet, I'm wondering if anyone saw the update on MG Strike Noir. Which, if no one is interested consider this a post for kct only lol:heh:. Apparently, straight from Bandai themselves they said the MG Strike Noir's "Appearance and specification are totally recreated, based on MG Strike Freedom, with new parts and inner mechanics." Now that is what I'm talking about. Make this like the 4th MG Strike concoction, but this time with new technology. Very nice, with a MG SF frame this will be amazing. Hope it's true, because I can see kct's gonna beg me for one now :heh: :heh:

This is why I keep slapping you with one, I have faith in the Strike Noir! :heh:

Bandai hobbie site ;)

And it seems the Akatsuki has ABS in it's joints to strengthen the limbs for poses. Understandable considering the backpack options :p

its not based off of the Strike Freedom, that was a mistake/typo

philmein 2007-03-09 21:15

Another question regarding the Zeta V. 2 Gundam:
Are there any loose or unsecured parts that I should be aware of? I honestly hope it doesn't end up like my MG Strike Freedom (well, the wings were the issue).

kct 2007-03-10 00:21

Actually, the fit is tighter than the Freedom, since it does not use that much polycap joints than something like the Freedom.

subaruhess 2007-03-11 11:12

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Originally Posted by philmein (Post 856665)
Yup, same here. The right wing's clip totally tore up so it can't fully rotate without coming loose. I'm utterly disappointed. Oh well, the rest is all good. But I must say, the wings for this unit is extremely disappointing. Oh well, I still have the Hi-Nu and potentially the Zeta Gundam.

You guys obviously need to be more careful when posing the wings, its a very delicate mechanism & doesnt take much to rotate into position. If you forcefully rotate the wings or exert too much pressure on the joints it will get damaged. Unfortunately bandai moulded the wing bearings in a soft less dense plastic, which is daft considering theres alot friction in the joints.

Deus EpS Machina 2007-03-11 16:34

ha, you all have a problem with your right wings too eh?

me too, and a few others i know have th same problem with that wing...infact, a friend of mine has completely torn away that specific part and he's one of the more careful people i know with models...

in any case, putty will fix that right up.

philmein 2007-03-11 17:06

~Time to buy some putty then...lol

But yeah, I'm not going to even bother adjusting the wings..I'll leave it as it is..

wavehawk 2007-03-11 22:33

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Originally Posted by subaruhess (Post 859288)
Unfortunately bandai moulded the wing bearings in a soft less dense plastic, which daft considering theres alot friction in the joints.

- Those are polycaps, I think. And the problem IMHO isn't the movement, but the weight. But that's just my opinion.

Deus EpS Machina 2007-03-11 22:53

theyre not polycaps

subaruhess 2007-03-11 22:56

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Originally Posted by wavehawk (Post 859770)
- Those are polycaps, I think. And the problem IMHO isn't the movement, but the weight. But that's just my opinion.

No your wrong, weight has nothing to do with it & there arent any polycaps. Its been explained before but theres a male & female connecting parts which sit inside a ring which holds the wings. The problem is that the connecting male/female parts are moulded in a really soft plastic. Frequent reposing will damage this joint, since the plastic isnt strong enough to withstand the friction.

mangatron 2007-03-11 23:35

Which raises the question, why wasn't it made in ABS plastic? Sure, good idea, but we should remember that, if I recall correctly that those infected parts are the gold color, in this case the inner frame of the wing. Bandai may have cited part count over quality when designing the wing area, resulting in the joint area using the gold inner frame parts for the joint. I say they could've used ABS for that joint area.

Oh well, another lesson learned. For me anyways. But does Bandai know about this? :heh:

Of course they have to, who wouldn't watch TV after building one lol...

subaruhess 2007-03-12 10:53

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Originally Posted by mangatron (Post 859813)
Which raises the question, why wasn't it made in ABS plastic?

Probably to lower production costs, bandai are tight people after all. The plastic material used to mould strike freedom's joints is slightly lighter though. The original MG freedom's frame material was much stronger, but that made the joints stiff & fiddley to pose. But MG strike freedom's frame is frictionless, with lighter plastic they've used makes it easier to pose. But it still doesnt justify using a weaker material.

duotiga 2007-03-13 04:50

Some official promo pics, from http://www.happinetonline.com/NASApp...=4543112494825

http://www.happinetonline.com/000001...494825_500.jpg

http://www.happinetonline.com/000001...12494825_1.jpg

http://www.happinetonline.com/000001...12494825_0.jpg

Kittie Rose 2007-03-13 13:22

Just assembled my first HG kit, it's a Strike Freedom.

Very excellent. Was impressed I didn't have to Gundam Marker it to make it look awesome. It's also a little bigger than I expected it to be.

Unfortunately it's also very fragile being so small and elaborate, and the catch for hte left arm inside the body broke, meaning it's loose in certain positions. If I shove some glue in there it might help.

Still have to assemble my Aile Strike, it looks like it needs a lot of paint work. But I thnk it would be a better figure to fiddle with.

kct 2007-03-13 20:52

http://dalong.net/review/mg/m100/m100_i.htm

Dalong have some pics of the MG Strike Noir up. And manga, I'm sticking to the IWSP >.> .

LoweGear 2007-03-13 20:56

WHOA, that was quick...

Dalong sure gets its models fast. Noir looks sexy as always XD Looks like those yellow bits on the shoulders are individual colored parts, and not stickers as has been assumed a few pages back, which is a good thing. ^^

DarkWarrior 2007-03-13 21:35

Must be nice to be a Gunpla fan in Korea.. anyways, now that Strike Noir is out, I'm waiting for the announcement of the next MG. Destiny please!

LoweGear 2007-03-13 23:23

Seconded! They'd better make us a MG Destiny. It'll be a waste if they remade S-F, Legend and I-J into BEECRAFT style, but leave out Destiny Gundam.

philmein 2007-03-14 00:33

The only thing that grips me from getting an MG Destiny (if it is released) is the fact that Shinn pilots it. I know, I'm weird. I just cannot stand him at all. By far my most hated character of the SEED series. I mean the model itself is very nice.

mangatron 2007-03-14 02:43

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Originally Posted by kct (Post 861786)
http://dalong.net/review/mg/m100/m100_i.htm

Dalong have some pics of the MG Strike Noir up. And manga, I'm sticking to the IWSP >.> .

You know what. I hate life! :heh:

Eh, what I mean is, with the Noir being yet another inner frame re-hash(kinda :uhoh: ), I now am faced with the worst nightmare ever: Buy all MG Strike variations, buy the MG SF, take the SF lower body, recolor it, stick the Strike upper body on it, and voila! A much better Strike with all the lovely MG packs available! :heh:

The stupid part is putting that whole thing together. Time is something I don't have much of these days and the thought of doing all that to enjoy a decent MG Strike is....crazy :heh:

But hey, I'm crazy, insane and maybe my zany-ness can actually make it all work out :heh:

And yeah, I somewhat like the IWSP pack more than all of those packs. Gimmicky stuff is my game :heh:

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Originally Posted by philmein (Post 861986)
The only thing that grips me from getting an MG Destiny (if it is released) is the fact that Shinn pilots it. I know, I'm weird. I just cannot stand him at all. By far my most hated character of the SEED series. I mean the model itself is very nice.

But, we want a MG Destiny, not a Megahouse RAH doll of Shinn :heh: :heh:


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