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AnimeFan188 2013-04-19 11:33

Future Warfare
 
One Two Three Four, We Could Get A Nuclear War:

"Trends in nuclear proliferation and doctrine could render U.S. guarantees to
allied countries “not very credible”, according to strategic-weapons analyst Barry
Watts of the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Affairs. In a new CSBA report,
Watts notes that U.S. actions – reductions in nuclear forces and a steady
drawdown in the ability to build new warheads – are at odds with activities in
Russia, emerging nuclear nations and, possibly, with China."

"The result: there is no single standard “firebreak” between conventional and
nuclear weapons. If the conventional revulsion against their use does not hold,
Watts warns, “limited use of low-yield nuclear weapons will become the new
normal and give rise to a second nuclear age whose dangers and uncertainties
will dwarf those of the first.”"

See:

http://www.aviationweek.com/Blogs.as...0-ab09bb1bd87f

MrTerrorist 2013-04-19 12:04

I always assume Future Warfare would look something like this.

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Roger Rambo 2013-04-19 12:12

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Originally Posted by MrTerrorist (Post 4643762)
I always assume Future Warfare would look something like this.

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The American military using very poorly designed Xbox 360 kinetic motion controls to send uncoordinated mobs of American soldiers to their deaths against the Russians?

(seriously, what's the point of all this motion control stuff?)

grylsyjaeger 2013-04-19 16:53

War has changed.

It's not about nations, or ideologies.
It's not even about profit, resources, or ethnicity.

It's an endless series of proxy battles,
fought by mercenaries and machines.

War, and its vast consumption of human life,
has become a rational, well-oiled business transaction.

War has changed.

ID-tagged soldiers carry ID-tagged weapons,
use ID-tagged gear.

Nanomachines inside their bodies
enhance and regulate their actions.

Genetic control.. Information control..
Emotion control.. Battlefield control.

Everything is monitored, and kept under control.

War has changed.

The age of deterrence is now the age of control,
averting catastrophe from weapons of mass destruction.

And he who controls the battlefield, controls history.

War has changed.

When the battlefield is under total control,

War becomes routine.

Roger Rambo 2013-04-19 17:17

from 08 seconds to 32 seconds.
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Flying Dagger 2013-04-19 17:38

I do not think the nuclear option (regardless of yield) will be the future: war these days are not about killing an army of 20k people marching heads on with each other (essentially the past world wars). Although nuclear triggered EMPs will probably be more widely utilized at some point. At that time I expect the government to avoid the word "nuclear" heavily and just call those "high powered EMP warheads".

Instead of powerful warhead that can annihilate several city blocks, I think the future will lie in very high speed long range weapons that can accurately strike at a target. Imagine a small device that can be sent across the globe and rely purely on kinetic force to clear out a room (maybe the kinetic force is used solely to penetrate defenses and the device itself cause a small scale explosion). High speed+small size will make the device very difficult to take down mid-flight.

Also I expect more remote control fighters to be deployed as the primary strike force. Small scaled combat drones might also be employed at some time: that remote control helicopter you got for your 10 year old cousin might be more potent than you think!

Then there is always space warfare. You wouldn't feel very safe if there is a space-to-ground missile satellite system orbiting right over your country, would you?

synaesthetic 2013-04-19 17:51

The wars of the future will be economic, not military--and we're already right in the middle of the biggest one ever.

We're already fighting World War III--but it's being fought in boardrooms and banks, with profit-and-loss statements, securities, insider trading, industrial espionage, copyright trolling, patent trolling, lobbying, buying and selling politicians at home and abroad...

We're already fighting then biggest world war ever, and it's no longer the Allies versus the Axis, but the Corporate Robber-Barons versus Everyone Else.

NoemiChan 2013-04-19 17:53

Future Warfare would be about who will govern the Moon then Mars...

AnimeFan188 2013-12-08 19:14

Israel: Combat drones in dogfights with enemy jet fighters ‘not a fantasy’:

"Israel has envisioned the design of unmanned aerial vehicles to attack enemy
fighter-jets.

The Israel Air Force has been examining the prospect of a new generation of UAVs
that could intercept enemy warplanes.

The proposal to the Air Force was meant to reduce dependence on expensive
manned aircraft platforms, including the Joint Strike Fighter of the United States.

“The [unmanned] air-to-air mission is not a fantasy but part of the future,” former
Air Force commander [Ret.] Maj. Gen. Eitan Ben-Eliahu said."

See:

http://www.worldtribune.com/2013/12/...not-a-fantasy/

ganbaru 2013-12-08 20:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnimeFan188 (Post 4937062)
Israel: Combat drones in dogfights with enemy jet fighters ‘not a fantasy’:

"Israel has envisioned the design of unmanned aerial vehicles to attack enemy
fighter-jets.

The Israel Air Force has been examining the prospect of a new generation of UAVs
that could intercept enemy warplanes.

The proposal to the Air Force was meant to reduce dependence on expensive
manned aircraft platforms, including the Joint Strike Fighter of the United States.

“The [unmanned] air-to-air mission is not a fantasy but part of the future,” former
Air Force commander [Ret.] Maj. Gen. Eitan Ben-Eliahu said."

See:

http://www.worldtribune.com/2013/12/...not-a-fantasy/

I though than the fact than ''the last fighter pilot is already born'' was considered true .

Fireminer 2013-12-08 22:41

Merciless, Cold, Calculated, Routinely, Network Propaganda,... Is all I could say about the future war. Heck, maybe this is not the ground for the great conquerors like Alexander the Great and Napoleon. What is the meaning of being great if you can play a wargames in a room with your shinny UAVs?

But I don't think we will have another Great War. The stake is too high. Conflics, with Sea-Air Battle on The Ocean, where disputing on the Borders. And Gurriella war on the Land.

Maybe it's time for some country to rethink about their tactics. After all, a sole human now could be quite a devastating weapon, given the right tools.

Rokumonsen 2013-12-09 03:39

Future warfare would definitely become less humane.

It's like going back to the Early Modern Era, when war was dubbed as the "game of Kings".

AnimeFan188 2014-01-03 19:55

How the Army’s recent successful laser test could change the future of warfare:

"In December, the U.S. Army successfully tested a vehicle-mounted laser, destroying
more than 90 mortar rounds and several unmanned aerial drones.

And an Army official tells Yahoo News that the test could have broad implications for
the future, giving the U.S. an edge in low-cost and high-functioning defense
technology."

See:

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow...005259265.html

T-6000 2014-01-03 20:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnimeFan188 (Post 4964678)
How the Army’s recent successful laser test could change the future of warfare:

"In December, the U.S. Army successfully tested a vehicle-mounted laser, destroying
more than 90 mortar rounds and several unmanned aerial drones.

And an Army official tells Yahoo News that the test could have broad implications for
the future, giving the U.S. an edge in low-cost and high-functioning defense
technology."

See:

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow...005259265.html

Speaking of Lasers, there have been some rumors that China and maybe Russia have been developing Lasers to blind enemy soldiers in the field. In fact, when I play through Warface and come across Blackwood Special Forces they tend to blind me (and other players) with their lasers. It tends to be pretty effective, as I am not only vulnerable to the SF soldier but other soldiers as well. I wouldn't be surprised if China (or other countries) developed such technology in real life.

AnimeFan188 2014-01-03 22:39

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Originally Posted by T-6000 (Post 4964693)
Speaking of Lasers, there have been some rumors that China and maybe Russia have been developing Lasers to blind enemy soldiers in the field. In fact, when I play through Warface and come across Blackwood Special Forces they tend to blind me (and other players) with their lasers. It tends to be pretty effective, as I am not only vulnerable to the SF soldier but other soldiers as well. I wouldn't be surprised if China (or other countries) developed such technology in real life.

"The ZM-87 Portable Laser Disturber is a Chinese electro-optic countermeasure
neodymium laser device. The ZM-87 was primarily intended to blind humans but
was also reported to damage the photo-electric elements in laser rangefinders,
videocameras and missile seekers. Roughly twenty-two of the devices were
produced by the company Norinco before production ceased in 2000 as a result of
the 1995 United Nations Protocol on Blinding Laser Weapons ban.

The ZM-87 is notable as one of only a few laser weapons ever produced.
Controversy has also surrounded the possible recent use of the weapon by
Russian, Chinese, and North Korean armed forces."

See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZM-87


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Bachmann: 'China Has Blinded U.S. Satellites with Their Lasers':

See:

http://news.yahoo.com/bachmann-china...213339849.html

T-6000 2014-01-04 01:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnimeFan188 (Post 4964783)
Roughly twenty-two of the devices were
produced by the company Norinco before production ceased in 2000 as a result of
the 1995 United Nations Protocol on Blinding Laser Weapons ban.

I doubt this will stop them, or anyone else, since it could become too much of a battle advantage. Remember World War 1, when Germany declared that Shotguns were too inhumane to use and threatened to execute allied soldiers using them? Allies still used them because they gave too much of an advantage in trench warfare. Hell, even today semi-auto shotguns can become a deadly arsenal for a soldier in door to door combat.

There have been some speculation that Genetic enhanced soldiers for war would be banned by the U.N., but I doubt this would stop them in real life as well. A human soldier that can do the work of +5 regular humans is too good to pass up. In fact, I strongly suspect that the U.S., Russia, China, and maybe Europe are experimenting in ways to chemically, mechanically, and even genetically augment humans.

In fact, this is what I think will be a big part of future combat , contending with Superhuman soldiers.

AnimeFan188 2014-01-04 02:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-6000 (Post 4964865)
In fact, this is what I think will be a big part of future combat , contending with Superhuman soldiers.

As long as they're not lead by some guy named Khan....... :)

Chaos2Frozen 2014-01-04 03:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnimeFan188 (Post 4964900)
As long as they're not lead by some guy named Khan....... :)

Nah, it'll be the Spartan II program... :cool:

Esclair 2014-01-04 05:01

It's likely that by the time we have superhumans robots would be far more advanced, so we'd be seeing terminator level robot wars, right before Skynet decides to rebel and kick all our asses.

AnimeFan188 2014-01-04 20:21

Navy Laser Weapon System Shoots Down Drone:

"The Laser Weapon System (LaWS) is a technology demonstrator built by the Naval
Sea Systems Command from commercial fiber solid state lasers. LaWS can be
directed onto targets from the radar track obtained from a MK 15 Phalanx Close-In
Weapon system."

See:

http://www.defensenews.com/VideoNetw...ots-Down-Drone


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