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GN0010 Nosferatu 2012-08-29 00:48

Providence is one of my favorite Gundams, and even though I don't buy kits, I'm still eager to see more of it. Can't wait to see the insane detail builders will give it.

FalsePrime 2012-08-29 00:51

Given the love for SEED and the lack of Evil side suits from AU series in the MG line I would imagine the people who would agree with you are far, far more in number then those who could be like me.

I just always hated Prov/Legend designs so it has little interest to me and the amount of SEED is bordering on to much for me just as Wing was before the break.

duotiga 2012-08-29 02:21

Personal taste between providence & legend: prefer legend overall balance , sleek design though prefer providence big beam rifle & the gauntlet shield/beam saber

helois 2012-08-29 04:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by MakubeX2 (Post 4325434)


the shoulder's frame is similar to the new seed shoulder's frame,the "bulky" waist and chest is similar to Providence.. large shoulder...uhmf... it seems really Providence... lol

but i think it will come out in 2013...

the 2012 will be a too "Seedius" year even the Providence.. :heh:

Akyra 2012-08-29 05:03

TBH, I prefer the Legend over Providence, but hey release both!

Wonder if they'll release the druggies too...I've always liked Calamity...

StrikeFreedomV2 2012-08-29 05:14

So, it's been awhile since I last ordered some kits. Today I ordered:

HG Gundam AGE-2 Double Bullet (My second one)
HG Gundam AGE-2 Dark Hound
HG Gundam AGE-3 Normal
HG Gundam AGE-3 Fortress
HG Gundam AGE-FX
HG Gundam Legilis
HG Ghirarga
and to top it of the MG Nu Gundam Ver.Ka :D

Can't wait for them to arrive/to be released^^

Obelisk ze Tormentor 2012-08-29 05:27

I would like for the trio Gundam to be MGed too. Hell, that was my wish for so long.

Still, I have this bad feeling that MG Providence will mark the end of MG SEED Remaster line coz Providence is the last Gundam that appear in the anime. :(

@StrikeFreedomV2
Hmm..HG Darkhound? You don't wanna wait for the MG?

firefox 2012-08-29 06:27

I would liek a providence, but it's not my favorite suit unless bandai can do some miracles with it's large backpack.

personally, if you wnana do another seed MG make it a grunt suit!!! Ginn, dagger 105, CGUE, GU-aiz...anything goes :)

Akyra 2012-08-29 06:30

Let's hope Bandai will milk the Seed line some more.

Dun believe I actually wanted Bandai to milk it some more...lol

StrikeFreedomV2 2012-08-29 06:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor (Post 4326018)
@StrikeFreedomV2
Hmm..HG Darkhound? You don't wanna wait for the MG?

I'm currently prefering HG's over MG's. I don't have that much space at the moment and I own so many HG AGE-kits already that I would like to keep them in scale :) I will get the MG eventually, though, maybe next year.

suiton629 2012-08-29 06:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by StrikeFreedomV2 (Post 4326000)
So, it's been awhile since I last ordered some kits. Today I ordered:

HG Gundam AGE-2 Double Bullet (My second one)
HG Gundam AGE-2 Dark Hound
HG Gundam AGE-3 Normal
HG Gundam AGE-3 Fortress
HG Gundam AGE-FX
HG Gundam Legilis
HG Ghirarga
and to top it of the MG Nu Gundam Ver.Ka :D

Can't wait for them to arrive/to be released^^

Oh damn~ LOL
Personally, I'm waiting for that list in MG (except for Nu Gundam since I don't like UC and Ghirarga since I don't care about it).

:)

suiton629 2012-08-29 09:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by StrikeFreedomV2 (Post 4326092)
I'm currently prefering HG's over MG's. I don't have that much space at the moment and I own so many HG AGE-kits already that I would like to keep them in scale :) I will get the MG eventually, though, maybe next year.

The thing with me, is that I try to get all the leads (and variations) in Master Grade first, and then the other few like key enemies, important characters, etc.. I get them in High Grade if I want it and if there is no 1/100 No Grade or 1/100 Master Grade.

Again, my preference..

MG --> 1/100 No Grade --> High Grade

I just hate how HG kits:

a. require so many stickers
b. no inner frames
c. missing details
d. require painting for many details
e. some stickers are annoying as hell to put on and either don't go on well or fall off too easily
f. loose parts. yea i know you can use some tamiya extra thin cement to stiffen them up, but still.. >_<

Bonta Kun 2012-08-29 10:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxnike629xx (Post 4326397)
The thing with me, is that I try to get all the leads (and variations) in Master Grade first, and then the other few like key enemies, important characters, etc.. I get them in High Grade if I want it and if there is no 1/100 No Grade or 1/100 Master Grade.

Again, my preference..

MG --> 1/100 No Grade --> High Grade

I just hate how HG kits:

a. require so many stickers
b. no inner frames
c. missing details
d. require painting for many details
e. some stickers are annoying as hell to put on and either don't go on well or fall off too easily
f. loose parts. yea i know you can use some tamiya extra thin cement to stiffen them up, but still.. >_<

Just like to point out that everything you mention is really to be expected of the grade, couldn't honestly tell me you expect to compare them to MGs or even RGs do you?
Also some of these problems are there for any grade, fact I don't have to pay a fortune for a HG is a massive plus.

suiton629 2012-08-29 10:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonta Kun (Post 4326418)
Just like to point out that everything you mention is really to be expected of the grade, couldn't honestly tell me you expect to compare them to MGs or even RGs do you?
Also some of these problems are there for any grade, fact I don't have to pay a fortune for a HG is a massive plus.

Relative really.

How so?

I don't buy many kits at all. So that "cost" of being into GunPla isn't a big deal. When you buy like 12 HG's I'll get like maybe 1 or 2 MG's. =P

Plus, I stick with Age and 00.

Bonta Kun 2012-08-29 10:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxnike629xx (Post 4326429)
Relative really.

How so?

I don't buy many kits at all. So that "cost" of being into GunPla isn't a big deal. When you buy like 12 HG's I'll get like maybe 1 or 2 MG's. =P

Plus, I stick with Age and 00.

Cause it's one of the biggest factors for alot of people, cause it's affordable.
Just pointing that out.
Also those that would get 12 or so HG would def be getting their moneys worth over those getting a couple of MGs.
Also another very important thing I left out before but in no way is any kit that Bandai or any other model kit company release just that good, they all require work to make them better, that's actually part of the whole hobby.
For the people who make them to perfect themselves.
If one doesn't want to then I'd say the hobby isn't for them.

Obelisk ze Tormentor 2012-08-29 10:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonta Kun (Post 4326466)
Also another very important thing I left out before but in no way is any kit that Bandai or any other model kit company release just that good, they all require work to make them better, that's actually part of the whole hobby.
For the people who make them to perfect themselves.
If one doesn't want to then I'd say the hobby isn't for them.

Bonta, you forgot that Nike doesn’t build MG kits. He’s only collecting MG boxes. :D

suiton629 2012-08-29 10:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor (Post 4326498)
Bonta, you forgot that Nike doesn’t build MG kits. He’s only collecting MG boxes. :D

And because I don't show my built kits means I only buy the kits and leave them?

FAIL LOGIC IS FAIL

I have some videos of them on private on my YouTube channel. I don't need haters spamming it. That's all. I'll show 1 video later in public. =)

Infinite Zenith 2012-08-29 12:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonta Kun (Post 4326466)
Cause it's one of the biggest factors for alot of people, cause it's affordable.
Just pointing that out.
Also those that would get 12 or so HG would def be getting their moneys worth over those getting a couple of MGs.
Also another very important thing I left out before but in no way is any kit that Bandai or any other model kit company release just that good, they all require work to make them better, that's actually part of the whole hobby.
For the people who make them to perfect themselves.
If one doesn't want to then I'd say the hobby isn't for them.

It depends on what the individual in question is looking for. For instance, I'm a novice builder, so I snap kits together and that's about it. I personally prefer the HG line over the MG for lighter cost and slightly shorter build times, but the 00 MG line held my attention because of the awesome details. Having recently finished the MG 00 Seven Sword/G, I am immensely pleased with how it looks.

Not every kit has to be an MG to be worth buying: it simply has to be a model that one likes :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxnike629xx (Post 4326505)
I have some videos of them on private on my YouTube channel. I don't need haters spamming it. That's all. I'll show 1 video later in public. =)

I watch YouTube reviews to see if a kit is right for me, not hate the guy doing the review :heh: I think most people watch reviews for similar reasons.

suiton629 2012-08-29 12:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForwardUntoDawn (Post 4326586)
It depends on what the individual in question is looking for. For instance, I'm a novice builder, so I snap kits together and that's about it. I personally prefer the HG line over the MG for lighter cost and slightly shorter build times, but the 00 MG line held my attention because of the awesome details. Having recently finished the MG 00 Seven Sword/G, I am immensely pleased with how it looks.

Not every kit has to be an MG to be worth buying: it simply has to be a model that one likes :)


I watch YouTube reviews to see if a kit is right for me, not hate the guy doing the review :heh: I think most people watch reviews for similar reasons.

The thing is, a lot of people thumbs down my videos without commenting, just on the fact that I posted a video. Sometimes it would be package video unboxing that I receive from friends, me showing off my game collection, showing my GunPla, etc. People just thumbs down the videos..

If I can get people to comment more, subscribe more, and thumbs up the videos (i.e. like, favorite, etc), then I might be more inclined on doing giveaways.

And sometimes, I do giveaway videos, and people still thumbs down... I mean the requirements are very simple. Comment, subscribe, like, and favorite. If you put in a video response, you get another entry. But if you do the 4 basic requirements, then you get 4 entries. >_>

I dunno why anyone would thumbs down, other than the fact that I uploaded it.

Go figure, eh? :uhoh:

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Oh and I see that you finally did a MG from the 00 series. =) You see why I enjoy it so much? You see why I want 4 more MG's from 00.. Exia R2, Exia R3, 00 Qan[T] Full Saber, 00 Qan[T] ELS ver.).. =D

But for now, I think I will stay with Age MG's.. You should try them. They're very streamlined and efficient engineering, and they're like 1500 YEN (give or take) cheaper than the 00 Master Grades while still being very impressive..

Age-1 Normal
Age-1 Titus
Age-1 Sparrow
Age-2 Normal
Age-2 Darkhound (coming soon)

That's all that's out so far, but I am pretty sure that we will get:

MG Age-2 Double Bullet
MG Age-2 Normal Special Ops
MG Age-3 Normal
MG Age-3 Orbital
MG Age-3 Fortress
MG Age-FX
MG Legillis --> maybe
MG Age-1 Flat
MG Age-1 Flat (Grandsa)
MG Age-1 Flat (Zefuld Launcher)

...as regular and or P-Bandai Online releases.

Infinite Zenith 2012-08-29 12:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxnike629xx (Post 4326598)
Oh and I see that you finally did a MG from the 00 series. =) You see why I enjoy it so much? You see why I want 4 more MG's from 00.. Exia R2, Exia R3, 00 Qan[T] Full Saber, 00 Qan[T] ELS ver.).. =D

But for now, I think I will stay with Age MG's.. You should try them. They're very streamlined and efficient engineering, and they're like 1500 YEN (give or take) cheaper than the 00 Master Grades while still being very impressive..

I might've mentioned that I had a MG 00Q a while back, and if I didn't, I have now. That was a pretty fun build, and although I loved the construction and detail, I lamented the 00Q's minimalistic loadout. Interestingly enough, the full sabre was released as a promotional item or something in a Hobby Magazine (don't quote me on this one). That said, I am very satisfied with the MG 00SS/G and because term is starting, I don't think I'll have time to build any more models. Maybe I should post some images...

Meanwhile, as for your YouTube videos, I think you should review more kits, and show off some completed products. I think people don't like seeing boxes all the time, hence their responses :p

suiton629 2012-08-29 12:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForwardUntoDawn (Post 4326653)
I might've mentioned that I had a MG 00Q a while back, and if I didn't, I have now. That was a pretty fun build, and although I loved the construction and detail, I lamented the 00Q's minimalistic loadout. Interestingly enough, the full sabre was released as a promotional item or something in a Hobby Magazine (don't quote me on this one). That said, I am very satisfied with the MG 00SS/G and because term is starting, I don't think I'll have time to build any more models. Maybe I should post some images...

Meanwhile, as for your YouTube videos, I think you should review more kits, and show off some completed products. I think people don't like seeing boxes all the time, hence their responses :p

The 1/100 Full Saber add-on was released by the company BTF.
Prime92 did a review on it.

It's not very good at all, but it's the best that we have at the moment.

If Bandai did do a Full Saber release with the MG 00 Qan[T], then with a few more plates, they can charge like 6000 YEN for it. =)

Good profit for them at minimal cost, while us fans finally get a complete version of the Qan[T].

As for MG Exia R2 and 00 Qan[T] ELS.. Yea. I wouldn't mind those as a P-Bandai exclusive. =)

As for the video I mentioned that Prime92 did:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc3qz8WR0Nw&hd=1

The Full Saber that Bandai licensed Hobby Japan to include in the magazine was for the 1/144 High Grade 00 Qan[T]...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-RU_c3EXuc&hd=1

StrikeFreedomV2 2012-08-29 13:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxnike629xx (Post 4326397)

I just hate how HG kits:

a. require so many stickers
b. no inner frames
c. missing details
d. require painting for many details
e. some stickers are annoying as hell to put on and either don't go on well or fall off too easily
f. loose parts. yea i know you can use some tamiya extra thin cement to stiffen them up, but still.. >_<

The more recent kits don't have that much stickers, especially those from AGE. The missing details isn't bad for me, because I like my kits to be accurate to the Anime. While I like the details that, for example, the MG 00 Gundam has to offer, I prefer the more clean design of the NG/HG kits. Also, MG's are more prone to loose parts than HG's, at least that's the case for some of my kits.

Infinite Zenith 2012-08-29 14:18

The HGUC ones also have fewer stickers: the HG Unicorn Destroy Mode only has stickers for the eyes and the scope on the beam magnum, along a pair of white seals for the psycoframe on the neck area. It helps that the HGUC series is reasonably detailed: the HG Unicorn and Sinanju have near-MG level details :)

StrikeFreedomV2 2012-08-29 14:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForwardUntoDawn (Post 4326748)
The HGUC ones also have fewer stickers: the HG Unicorn Destroy Mode only has stickers for the eyes and the scope on the beam magnum, along a pair of white seals for the psycoframe on the neck area. It helps that the HGUC series is reasonably detailed: the HG Unicorn and Sinanju have near-MG level details :)

I agree on the Unicorn, but it also has stickers for the shoulder vulcans. Other than the Unicorn, some newer kits rely on stickers while others don't. It's not really consistent. Not that I have a problem with that :)

Appel 2012-08-29 14:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxnike629xx (Post 4326397)
a. require so many stickers
b. no inner frames
c. missing details
d. require painting for many details
e. some stickers are annoying as hell to put on and either don't go on well or fall off too easily
f. loose parts. yea i know you can use some tamiya extra thin cement to stiffen them up, but still.. >_<

a. That depends on the kit. Kits like the Jesta or the AGE-3 don't need more stickers than your regular MG kit.
b. So what?
c. Paint it.
d. No, really? You do realize that you are building model kits and that these aren't toys, right?^^
e. You clearly heaven't built the MG EX-S...
f. I have yet to see a lot of lose parts on my HGs. The MGs that I have have more lose parts!

StrikeFreedomV2 2012-08-29 14:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Appel (Post 4326758)
f. I have yet to see a lot of lose parts on my HGs. The MGs that I have have more lose parts!

That's my point exactly ;) Thanks for confirming that :D

Tak 2012-08-29 14:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by StrikeFreedomV2 (Post 4326770)
That's my point exactly ;) Thanks for confirming that :D

I concur.

OTOH I like some HG kits better than their MG counterparts. Its not blasphemy, its personal experience! :D

- Tak

Obelisk ze Tormentor 2012-08-29 15:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tak (Post 4326780)
OTOH I like some HG kits better than their MG counterparts. Its not blasphemy, its personal experience! :D

- Tak

I'm basically agree. Some kits are better in the HG version than the (old) MG. Solid examples would be Nu, Sazabi, RX-79, ZZ, and to some extent, 00 Raiser (coz you can pose the side-binders even more freely than the MG without it drooping or falling off).

StrikeFreedomV2 2012-08-29 15:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor (Post 4326812)
I'm basically agree. Some kits are better in the HG version than the (old) MG. Solid examples would be Nu, Sazabi, RX-79, ZZ, and to some extent, 00 Raiser (coz you can pose the side-binders even more freely than the MG without it drooping or falling off).

Good examples! The ZZ really benefited the most from the HGUC release. The MG is a brick, nothing more. Other than the porpotions, I consider the HGUC and MG of the Nu Gundam equal in terms of articulation. Can't say much about the Sazabi, because I only have HGUC, but I like it. The sad thing is, the polycaps in the stomach and the left shoulder broke on mine :( And I agree about the 00 Raiser. IMO, it's the perfect version of the 00 Raiser if one makes the effort and paints the clear parts, the V-Fin and the grey on the feet and maybe the backthrusters. The articulation is still top-notch. Only most of the AGE-kits rival it in that aspect, but none has trumped its so far. Also, the sculpting is just perfect, IMO.

maknaedik 2012-08-29 19:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tak (Post 4326780)
I concur.

OTOH I like some HG kits better than their MG counterparts. Its not blasphemy, its personal experience! :D

- Tak


True! Most specially if the MG was released way before its HG counterpart.

Tak 2012-08-29 20:33

Oh yeah, I wouldn't look down upon the 144 HG kits either. They may be small, but they are filled with plenty of details on their own right. I would dare say some of them are even better than their larger counterparts.

I don't know if anyone here build dioramas, but those come in very, very handy.

- Tak

Araxiel 2012-08-29 20:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxnike629xx (Post 4326397)

I just hate how HG kits:

a. require so many stickers
b. no inner frames
c. missing details
d. require painting for many details
e. some stickers are annoying as hell to put on and either don't go on well or fall off too easily
f. loose parts. yea i know you can use some tamiya extra thin cement to stiffen them up, but still.. >_<

a. Paint them.
b. Rarely, if ever, needed.
c. Not an issue I've encountered.
d. All kits should be painted, otherwise you've just bought a toy.
e. See answer a.
f. See answer c.

Infinite Zenith 2012-08-29 20:44

Granted, the inner frame is cool and everything, but how often does one take the exterior plating apart to display it? The HGUC Unicorn and Sinanju look just fine without the frame, thank you very much :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tak (Post 4327133)
Oh yeah, I wouldn't look down upon the 144 HG kits either. They may be small, but they are filled with plenty of details on their own right. I would dare say some of them are even better than their larger counterparts.

The first example that comes to mind for me is the HG 00 Qan[T]: compared to its MG counterpart, the shield binder on the former is significantly lighter in proportion to its size, allowing it to hold poses better. I picked up the MG simply out of vain curiosity, as that was my first-ever master grade :heh:

casval cehack 2012-08-29 23:29

HG means more choices too, some MS will never move to the MG line in Bandai's lifetime (especially now there's the RG).

StrikeFreedomV2 2012-08-30 04:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by StrikeFreedomV2 (Post 4326000)
So, it's been awhile since I last ordered some kits. Today I ordered:

HG Gundam AGE-2 Double Bullet (My second one)
HG Gundam AGE-2 Dark Hound
HG Gundam AGE-3 Normal
HG Gundam AGE-3 Fortress
HG Gundam AGE-FX
HG Gundam Legilis
HG Ghirarga
and to top it of the MG Nu Gundam Ver.Ka :D

Can't wait for them to arrive/to be released^^

Just added the HG Danazine and the HG AGE-3 Orbital to that list^^ I think the only HG AGE-kits I'm missing are the G-EXES Jack Edge, the Shaldoll Custom, the Clanche, the Adele Diva Colors and Farsia :)

casval cehack 2012-08-30 06:00

Any photos of your current Age gunpla collection?

StrikeFreedomV2 2012-08-30 06:29

Sure. Might as well show some more of my collection^^ My desk is a little messed up though, and I don't have all kits in fancy poses, so excuse em please :heh:


Akyra 2012-08-30 08:05

Actually SF, quite like the "mess"! It sorta portrays the chaos within a massive crossover war...especially with all the different "battles" going on in there...

Good stuff...

StrikeFreedomV2 2012-08-30 08:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akyra (Post 4327848)
Actually SF, quite like the "mess"! It sorta portrays the chaos within a massive crossover war...especially with all the different "battles" going on in there...

Good stuff...

Thank you^^ Though I'm dire need of space :uhoh:

duotiga 2012-08-30 08:28

on a serious note, people tend to do more dynamic poses more on HG/RG 1/144 rather 1/100 (if you got the luxury space). Most 1/100 are usually standing/Singular pose, the most would be 2 kit doing side by side dynamic poses for 1/100 . PG/ Megasize is already your "shrine"


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