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Oh, the joys of youth, of being able to be alone with the one you love. If only things went smoothly, that is.....

I found this to be a very tame conclusion to a very fiery first half.

It wasn't bad...just anti-climactic. The explanation is as simple as "it's just the way they've always been", and will most likely stay that way since that's how their relationship works best. Unfortunately what that means for us viewers is that what we were introduced to with Kaoru is pretty much all we get with her, since the two of them didn't really need to develop their relationship past what it already was. Honestly, the only difference now is that they're kissing.

Again, nothing bad and I still really like Kaoru. This arc just didn't have the impact Ai's did, as we were able to see a major shift between relationship status for that.

My current ranking for the arcs goes:

Ai > Tsukasa > Kaoru

I skipped Rihoko's, so I'm not able to rank it.


EDIT: Also I think Ai's arc spoiled me. This show is much more enjoyable when Junichi's not hopeless. It's actually really interesting to see what effect the women have on how he ends up developing.

For all the troubles they had, they had some pretty good moments. Another one of Junichi's became reality at the hot spring. Umehara to the rescue! My favorite scene was them kissing on the beach.

Yeah, I'm with Somnus on this. It all felt too "normal" and not enough like the finisher it should have been, like the Tsukasa, Ai, and Rihoko arcs.

Hopefully they can bring back the high peaking of the previous arcs for Sae and Haruka's arcs. (they'd definitely better bring it back for Haruka's arc :p) The way things kept spiking in their arcs (especially with the moe-overdose fainting in Sae's arc and the.......fetishes of Haruka's :heh:), it would be incredibly disappointing to see their arcs plateau like in Kaoru's.

I will have to ask: Is this a relationship or a friendship? 'cause seriously... :uhoh: ... the awkwardness should not even exist. Quite frankly... it's nearing the end stages with all this arguing, etc.

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Alright. Nevermind. Whatever. I gave up on these two, but there's still some hope left. XD

Freaking terrible.

"BOSS! Hows your man training going?!"

"It's going AWESOME!" <--- fucking lie.

Junichi was a bitch the entire episode, can't help but face palm frequently throughout the whole thing.

Judging on my post -- Yea, I was rage quitting. Too many times I wanted to beat him up.

Once again Umehara saves the day. God that guy deserves something good to happen before this is all over. The man just keeps on helping Junichi out.

I didn't think it was that bad. I mean at least it focused on the couple instead of an election. Sure there was some whining in this second part, but that only brought it down a bit for me.

Could really feel sympathy regarding calling home. Sometimes a younger sibling needs to be quiet and let you explain what's up. Of course in that kind of situation just called collect and the issue was getting them to answer at all :heh:.

I don't know about most of you, but having been in a relation for over three years (almost two years engaged), I can see what kind of relationship the two has. I give this episode the same score as I gave the Ai episode: If Ai is still in the flowery love-love stage, Kaoru is in the very advanced stage of partner-friend. While this may be boring to those wanting action, I find warm satisfaction.

Slightly preferred the the previous episode compared to this, nonetheless, the ending scene of the picture of both of them was perfect. And it seems like no matter which girl Junichi goes out with, Umehara will end up helping them in a way at some point, what a bro that is, one that everyone will be proud of. Now, if only he could get the love he desires by the end of the series...

Yeah I don't see what the complaint is about, I was too busy falling in love with Kaoru all over again with all the dere faces that she's showing. The bickering part was a different and a somewhat arguably realistic touch because l have never seen a couple that never fight over the little things and blaming each other for it, the most important thing is that they don't like it weight them down. This shows the uniquely different dynamics that Junichi has with Kaoru.


And damn that last kiss was hot :eek: It's like the ending of a Bond movie :eyespin:

The episode was highly enjoyable, but I was also slightly disappointed their relationship didn't evolve. They even decided to leave it as it was for now.

We're just seeing things differently. In my opinion, Kaoru and Junichi are still stuck in the initial stage rather than a very advanced stage (which implies they have moved past other stages). They are not that much closer now than they were at the beginning of her arc in the first season. They're still just (very close) friends trying to become lovers. The partner (<- that's where they fail)-friend relationship you're talking about is still a long way off for them.

Umehara steals the show once again. I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up with someone when Haruka's final episode airs.

Rather disappointing conclusion to Kaoru's arc, despite the increase in ecchi and cute reactions from Kaoru. It could have used less bickering and more intimate moments between the two (that innkeeper definitely tried to get the ball rolling with the room setup). The other arcs have raised the bar quite considerably, so capping off with 'still friends, not quite lovers' doesn't make for a satisfying finish.

Surprisingly, the preview didn't show much of Sae, so either they're saving some juicy stuff for her arc or it's going to be tamer than before (given what Sae's done for Junichi already, I doubt that). It'll be hilarious if they have random characters chiming in for the narration like a play-by-play. Maybe Umehara can call the action when Junichi and Sae get intimate :cool:

Friends? For friends, they sure are intimate.

Whiners just want to see Junichi get it on with Kaoru LOL

Well I guess the only characters that Junichi had sex with (before the 10 year time skip) are Haruka and probably Ai....

It's been gone over in the Ai episode thread, but no. Junichi does not have the guts, nor the girls that loose a personality, to be making love while still going to high school. I mean, jeez, why do people assuming acts would be done as if it's natural?

pretty good episode...

next week is Sae's arc!! Wonder whether the infamous narrator would make a return XD (actually, in the preview, if I am not mistaken, one of the characters also mentions that narrator :D)

Premarital sex is pretty normal in this modern times. Anyway I said "probably" in Ai's case. In Haruka's case the writers followed her Best Ending in the game. This is from her MAL profile So its safe to assume that something happened.

Sheesh this is just a show. There is no need to get serious.

:heh:

(No wait, no chance in hell)

Indeed. The bickering. That's natural. But it goes to show you what men really shouldn't do: blame his woman over the little things, and just let it go. When they were fighting over the way money was spent -- oh boy. Many divorces have resulted from fights like that; although, they were much more intense and involved higher amounts of money. In this episode, it was merely pocket change.

Nevertheless, eventually, they did managed to just let by-gones be by-gones. And in the end, OK. That's fine. I'll take it. Many relationships can survive this kind of in-fighting by being able to patch things up. Likewise, good memories are very important. This is why "moments" are just as important.

It's like every 5 mins... Junichi is thinking about Kaoru being naked or erotic... LOL

Why is Junichi so perverted?.... make it feel like he's only going after the girls for their bodies... >_<

On hindsight yeah they probably should let certain things go, but you know how these things are more 'in the heat of the moment' and you wouldn't realize your mistakes and how insignificant those things are until later.


He's an opportunist.

He's this weird mix of pervert and polite.

I'm serious with everything. It's just that I'm very tired of that misinterpretation translation that everyone seems to hold up as canon. Most who have seen the scene wouldn't go thinking "oh, they've had sex!", yet that one for some reason has spread around a lot.

Also, the game is set in the early 1990's, which is not exactly the era when premarital sex was as common as it is now. It's starting from the late 1990's that having experience in middle/high school became a near norm.

Basically, saying they would have sex is just ignoring the historical background, the premise of the game, AND forcing one's bias onto the scenario, never mind ignoring the characters' personalities.

At the risk of derailing this thread, I'd like to address this comment.

Knowing the actual history and reality behind something is good, and I actually support full knowledge of as much as possible before making an opinion on anything (for all parties applicable). On that note, you also have to be able to understand arguments in their most basic forms. Which is that people won't care/don't realize that there WAS an original source to begin with. Therefore, what they see becomes the original source. They don't want to consider personalities etc, they just watch what they watch, enjoy it, and accept it at face value.

Also, in the same vein I'm more willing to agree with grandchaos and say that to a casual viewer in today's society, I'd be more inclined to believe that indeed Haruka and Junichi had sex that night. Heck, for all we know that's what the writers of the show had intended, even with knowledge of the original content. After all, it was instantly followed up with them being married (a scenario where sex was yesterday's news).

Am I the only one to think Morishima's arc will be about her relationship to Miya?
I mean, that is left hanging still....

Must say as with everyone else it was quite a disappointing end to Kaoru's arc after the episode before.

Will see how Sae's arc starts off otherwise might have to skip it again like in the first season.

Well ... I wasn't overly disappointed, but I thought they could have done better by Kaoru.

It almost feels as if they studio decided to take a break somehow on this ep. :\

A pity.

I would give ep 8 a 6/10 vote.

Not terrible ... but it could have been a lot better, esp with what they showed they could potentially do in ep 7.

Best thing about this episode by far was once again Umehara being a total boss.

He's such an amazing character. :P

I watched the two episodes in a row and I literally fell asleep during the second episode, I'm not kidding. I'm starting to believe that overall the 2 eps per girl format isn't working out so great with me.

The Ajatsuji part was good, the Rihoko one managed to add a proper conclusion which was decent but then again it's just Rihoko, who many people stopped caring about after the initial 6 eps. The other two... not so much, it just feels like nothing's happening, and I'm not refering to them keeping the drama level very low - I'm ok with that.

Flower, some time ago, was probably right: my expectations for this miniseries were probably a bit too high. Well, they aren't anymore. Let's see if that helps me enjoy the upcoming episodes more.

Cyz, seeing a girl's naked body is like eating an apple.

Once a day, every day.

Omg, Kaoru's the fucking bomb. So damn adorable!

And wtf, Umehara! What a friend, that guy is.