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marvelB 2012-11-28 02:49

One Piece - Chapter 690 [manga]
 
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Spoiler's here! Credit goes to Aohige and redon from AP forums:



-Chapter title is "SAD". The ministory features Caribou being saved by an old woman.


-Luffy vs. CC resumes. It seems that the scientist is capable of firing beams from his mouth, but that still doesn't save him from getting smashed into a pulp.


-Meanwhile, focus briefly switches back the other Straw-Hats scrambling around the lab, then back to another battle in progress: Smoker vs. Vergo in the SAD room. It looks like despite his impressive display from earlier, Smoker loses the fight. However, his loss was intentional, as Law used this opportunity to regain his heart...!!


-Law calls out Doflamingo through Vergo's denden mushi, telling him that he'll lose his most valuable people and assets. Vergo is ready to strike him with his haki-infused body, but..... Law slices him AND THE ENTIRE LAB in half! He then tells his old boss that things have changed since Whitebeard's era, and that there's no turning back the inevitable tsunami now. Doflamingo gets most displeased by this sudden turn of events...!!!!



Veeery nice chapter. :D And I believe I even predicted that Law would use Smoker's fight as a way to get his heart back, as well. I'm a bit unsure if Vergo's down for the count just yet, though..... even if he was sliced in half, Law's power doesn't immediately kill his enemies, so the VA may still have some tricks up his sleeve....


Anyway, looks like Dofla's going to be our first major NW enemy at this point. Now that Law attracted his wrath, it's only a matter of time before the veteran warlord takes matters to his own hands (though I still doubt he'll go to PH himself.... I'm guessing that the Luffy/Law alliance would take the fight to his base at Dresrosa). Man, it really sucks to know that the next few chapters are going to be released in-between holiday breaks, considering what's at stake here now..... :(

SOGESNAKE 2012-11-28 02:53

Hmmm... wouldn't have thought Smoker would have lost. Figured Law would'a got his heart back, and they would'a double teamed him. Well.... now that Vergo's in half, I do wonder what Smoker will do with him now.... unless Smoker's actually unconcious. :heh:

marvelB 2012-11-28 02:57

^Smoker lost, but that was because he basically jobbed to Vergo intentionally. For all we know, he could have taken care of him as quickly as Law did if he weren't holding back....

ronin myael 2012-11-28 03:19

oh wow, the spoilers seem very interesting. can't wait to read the chapter!

~Yami~ 2012-11-28 04:24

great chapter I must say...

Law is back and kicking Vergo.... Luffy is also kicking Caesar!
the new era will really begin... Vergo and Caesar used to be famous in the past but these two new pirates has kicked them out

II Maestro 2012-11-28 04:26

Okay Vergo lost to law after covering his whole body with haki.

andy 2012-11-28 04:43

kiki san you should edit your post .
Doing that is a NO NO here

Also this chapter was awesome .
Law being a bad ass was great can't wait for things to get crazy .

Poetic Justice 2012-11-28 06:13

I think this is the first time in the series that we've seen Doflo frowning.

aohige 2012-11-28 06:35

Considering the fact Big Mam is randomly shown when Law is making the speech about knocking oiut a cogwheel, it's much more likely now that Dofla's business partner Yonkou is her.

kiak666 2012-11-28 08:00

This perfectly described how I feel about Law this chapter:

:bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:

And Luffy's "Extreme Makeover" on Caesar's face is one of the other highlights of this chapter for me. I wonder if Caesar's face would remain like that for the rest of the fight. :D

paradox13 2012-11-28 08:00

Law is a badass.

I guess Vergo wasn't top tier.. as we saw in the war, top tiers have insane durability and do not get taken out in one shot (Marco, Akainu, etc.. although Jozu may be an exception).

I wonder how much of a fight Smoker would've given Vergo if he was fighting seriously to win.. somehow I see him being able to force a win, although it would've been a huge struggle.. maybe something like Luffy's win against Lucci.

james0246 2012-11-28 08:10

Dieragof!!! Fwagabah!!! Pogabebwah!!!

Fun Fun Fun chapter. Good bit o' fighting, lots of funny bits, and we finally get to see Usopp and Brook again...though Frankie is still hiding (probably waiting to defeat the Shinokuni in one blow).

ronin myael 2012-11-28 08:55

awesome chapter! law is back to his badass self! i never would have thought that law and smoker would do such a good tag team against vergo. pissing off doffy is not a good idea but if this means that we'll finally get to see the bird man in action then i'm all for it! :D

Libros 2012-11-28 09:27

when I first read the chapter, I sort of didn't expect Law to 1 shot(?) Vergo. Don't get me wrong, Law seemed strong pre-timeskip but I don't know,..he just didn't seem powerful enough to defeat someone like Vergo in one shot, let alone do what he did to the Island. Either way, where's the Panda and the rest of Law's crew?:confused: Either way, this chapter was badass, and so was Law. I didn't really know someone could harden their entire body with Haki though.

james0246 2012-11-28 09:48

^Law has one of the most powerful devil fruits we have seen in the series. He can control almost anything in his 'rooms'...as so long as he can surpass their Haki. The only reason Law has suffered so far has been because his heart was being controlled by Vergo. Once he had his heart back, and he could equal or surpass Vergo's Haki, it is not surprising that he could defeat Vergo (though I agree the entire mountain being 'cut' was also surprising.

andy 2012-11-28 09:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Libros (Post 4454265)
when I first read the chapter, I sort of didn't expect Law to 1 shot(?) Vergo. Don't get me wrong, Law seemed strong pre-timeskip but I don't know,..he just didn't seem powerful enough to defeat someone like Vergo in one shot, let alone do what he did to the Island. Either way, where's the Panda and the rest of Law's crew?:confused: Either way, this chapter was badass, and so was Law. I didn't really know someone could harden their entire body with Haki though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by paradox13 (Post 4454210)
Law is a badass.

I guess Vergo wasn't top tier.. as we saw in the war, top tiers have insane durability and do not get taken out in one shot (Marco, Akainu, etc.. although Jozu may be an exception).

I wonder how much of a fight Smoker would've given Vergo if he was fighting seriously to win.. somehow I see him being able to force a win, although it would've been a huge struggle.. maybe something like Luffy's win against Lucci.

I would say Vergo is still top tier ( or at least fairly strong ) but both he and Donflamingo underestimated Law .
They both thought Law was a punk that Vergo could unfair him like they old days and he was below them .
Vergo ran at him thinking there was nothing he could do instead of playing it smart and he pay the price for it .

Which is why Law said to Donflamingo he was just sitting on his ass thinking he going to remain on top but new generation are about the come for the old one .

marvelB 2012-11-28 10:12

Oh god, Caesar's face. :p Well, if he manages to survive this whole mess, the dude's pretty much going to have to wear a mask for the rest of his life like Spandam! :heh:


Anyway, don't have much else to say about the chapter. Though I do also find it curious that Franky's been absent for a while now.....



Quote:

Originally Posted by aohige (Post 4454155)
Considering the fact Big Mam is randomly shown when Law is making the speech about knocking oiut a cogwheel, it's much more likely now that Dofla's business partner Yonkou is her.


Yeah, looks like Big Mama being the one with the zoan army has a bit more merit now, I admit. I'm still sticking with the idea of Kaidou being the target of the Straw-Hearts alliance, though....


Quote:

Originally Posted by andy (Post 4454284)
I would say Vergo is still top tier ( or at least fairly strong ) but both he and Donflamingo underestimated Law .
They both thought Law was a punk that Vergo could unfair him like they old days and he was below them .
Vergo ran at him thinking there was nothing he could do instead of playing it smart and he pay the price for it .

Which is why Law said to Donflamingo he was just sitting on his ass thinking he going to remain on top but new generation are about the come for the old one .



Yeah, I pretty much agree with everything here. Dofla and Vergo were just too cocky and underestimated Law. And again, it's not like Vergo is out of the picture yet, anyway (he got sliced in half, but he's obviously still alive due to Law's "Room" being in effect).


BTW, it looks like it's been pretty much confirmed that Vergo is Dofla's right-hand man, I think. I mean, Law referred to him as his "most valuable" subordinate. And one must certainly admit that the bamboo demon proved himself a more reliable underling than a certain dachshund hyena.....

paradox13 2012-11-28 10:29

So what is the relationship between Doflamingo and Mihawk?

II Maestro 2012-11-28 10:46

Zoro & Tashigi is being chase by the gas, Though I know that Zoro's lost.

Kanon 2012-11-28 10:47

I'm impressed Law managed to cut through Vergo's armament haki (which has been hyped a lot) so easily. He is definitely worthy of the rank of Shichibukai. His DF combined with his strong haki makes him a frightening opponent. Luffy was right to forge an alliance with him.

Caesar's face is hilarious. I hope he'll remain that way forever :p
I've got to hand it to him, he is damn resilient. It's only a matter of time before he gets defeated though. Luffy is completely overwhelming him.

golgo13 2012-11-28 10:51

Awesome :)

It looks like Smoker used armament haki on his jutte, and Vergo was still able to break it. Vergo's haki was no match for Law's DF ability once he got his heart back.

Law alludes to the "unforeseen power" the governments policy enacted in order to fill the gap of Akainu and Aokiji no longer being admirals. Perhaps the marines are also using smiles? Even crazier, like Vergo being planted by Donflamingo in the marines, what if Kaidou is actually an ally of the marines?

Looks like shinokuni has access to everyone now that the lab was destroyed..

Is the old lady taking care of Caribou the same one that offered Urouge an umbrella outside of Raijin island?

EDIT: probably not the same old lady, the one with Caribou has glasses and a round nose.

SilverSyko 2012-11-28 10:55

At first I thought it was awesome how Vergo looked completely encased in armament haki, then Law quickly outdid that by not only one-shotting Vergo, but cutting the entire tip of the mountain off with a single slash. That was incredibly awesome. :D

And here at the end we have one of the very rare times Doflamingo isn't seen smiling. To be exact I think this is the third time.~

noktown 2012-11-28 11:22

I think Law cutting Vergo also shows us that the ones who were considered rookies should not be underestimated at this point,they've come as far as new world,shit's getting serious,and VA is no longer a level that would be able to stop them with ease.

I know that there are no technical power levels in One Piece,but i think Oda's trying to show us something.

And it's either Law having a broken DF

or

Rookies are no longer rookies.

Dengar 2012-11-28 11:39

Ahahaha, Law so badass. Slicing Vergo while his haki shield is maximized with little effrort, along with the rest of the lab, and also making Doflamingo frown.

Also yay for CC getting clocked each time he says something dumb.

Kizoku Keenan 2012-11-28 12:20

Here comes the new Era, Law and Luffy in this chapter are like the DX (wrestling metaphor...boom!) of One Piece.

I'd say Ceasar's face should and will tay the way it was after Luffy smashed it in, it will bring hilarity with it so why not.

Where in the hell is that coke addict Frankie???

I wonder if Luffy's armament tis stronger than Virgo's?

Somnus 2012-11-28 12:23

This chapter. THIS CHAPTER.

That was fantastic. He cut everything. I can hardly wait to see the wait to see the Supernova unleash their collective hell on the New World, if Law and Luffy are anything to go by.

There are only a few other moments in OP where I've screamed in righteous awestruck satisfaction after reading the chapter like this one.

- Luffy punching the tenryuubito
- Luffy first unleashing Jet Gatling on Lucci
- When Shanks and Whitebeard crossed blades, splitting the sky in two.

Which frankly is 4 more times than any other manga has accomplished. Which, now that I read the examples...I realise OP is great at putting the baddies in their place in the best ways.

Poetic Justice 2012-11-28 12:38

The new battle force of the marines is something Vegapunk has been making. Probably new models of pacifistas.

Kona 2012-11-28 13:38

I'm a little disappointed that Smoker lost but good chapter 7/10.

khoa1708 2012-11-28 13:49

smoker lost but it was intentional?? meaning he meant to lose so law can get his heart back?

marvelB 2012-11-28 13:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by noktown (Post 4454351)
I think Law cutting Vergo also shows us that the ones who were considered rookies should not be underestimated at this point,they've come as far as new world,shit's getting serious,and VA is no longer a level that would be able to stop them with ease.

I know that there are no technical power levels in One Piece,but i think Oda's trying to show us something.

And it's either Law having a broken DF

or

Rookies are no longer rookies.


This reminds me: Just for the record, I don't doubt the supernovas' strength. Never did, really. My argument was always that they couldn't topple the New World's major forces on their own. That's precisely why I don't object to them forming alliances among each other.... They have a better chance of beating their foes with appropriate backup. That being said, I am most definitely looking forward to the inevitable final clash against Doflamingo. ;)


Oh, and another thing that occurred to me: Didn't gray_1960 argue that Law was too weak to be a threat for guys like Smoker and Vergo? Guess he has to eat his words now! :p



Quote:

Originally Posted by Kona (Post 4454509)
I'm a little disappointed that Smoker lost but good chapter 7/10.


Again, Smoker let himself lose on purpose. Think about what Vergo said this chapter about how Smoker activating his ability makes him more vulnerable against strong haki users. It's pretty clear by now that the fight was just a distraction so Law could get his heart back. If Smokey weren't holding back, I doubt he'd lose so easily.....

ZGoten 2012-11-28 13:55

Wow, even Zoro would have been impressed by that slice. I have to say that, although i've never been a fan of Law, he was great in this chapter. Of course his cutting technique impressed me, but even more so his speech directed towards Doflamingo. I just loved how that idiot stopped laughing at the end. And yes, Smoker was great as well. Like marvelB, I think that Smoker 'lost' intentionally. The circumstances are obvious.

However, with this chapter, the arc is pretty much over, isn't it? Vergo's probably done, Ceasar never had a chance anyway, so all that's left to do is get rid of the gas or wait in a secure place until it's gone. It's pretty obvious that Joker's henchmen are going to do something soon. The question is where and when, though.

SeanQ 2012-11-28 14:02

Surprising and a little disappointed Vergo went down so easily by Law...but yeah that cutting of the mountains and stuff was a little overkill lol Law seems a bit op now...hmm but that cutting technique...is it the same technique as Doflamingo's? For him to be able to extend his DF power to that distant is a bit off...

Kona 2012-11-28 14:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by khoa1708 (Post 4454516)
smoker lost but it was intentional?? meaning he meant to lose so law can get his heart back?

It wasn't, he was weaker than Vergo.


Quote:

Originally Posted by marvelB (Post 4454517)
Again, Smoker let himself lose on purpose. Think about what Vergo said this chapter about how Smoker activating his ability makes him more vulnerable against strong haki users. It's pretty clear by now that the fight was just a distraction so Law could get his heart back. If Smokey weren't holding back, I doubt he'd lose so easily.....

That's not true, if he was strong enough he would defeat him and Law would get his heart back. Losing on purpose makes no sense especially if you're risking your life.

marvelB 2012-11-28 14:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kona (Post 4454528)
That's not true, if he was strong enough he would defeat him and Law would get his heart back. Losing on purpose makes no sense especially if you're risking your life.


But remember that he needs Law's power in order to get back his heart. It wouldn't do much good if his heart ended up being lost forever due to Law being killed now, would it? :rolleyes: Not to mention he could risk damaging Law's heart if he got serious while the organ was still in Vergo's hands....

Blackbeard D. Kuma 2012-11-28 14:17

Looks like this arc will be wrapping up very soon. Ceasar is getting dominated by Luffy, and Vergo seems to be pretty much done. Hardening his whole body and rushing with full force against Law looked like his last resort/ultimate trump card. And the moral of the story here is that the supernovas are no longer "rookies" or "underdogs". They've been sorely underestimated by the big players and that's proving to be quite costly for them. Doflamingo had a serious look on his face, which is indicative of the fact that there can't be any more messing around/taking this new generation lightly.

All in all, this was an awesome chapter.

janipani 2012-11-28 14:27

Seems that I think very differently about Smoker and Law than many here.

Imo Smoker didn't have any chance against Vergo and only way to victory was to give heart back to Law.

Vergo was super strong, but Law is even more dangerous.

Smoker, Sanji < Law

Vergo's downfall was his trust on his armor which seems to be common for many haki user in this series, he just takes the hit even if it could be dodged.

Somnus 2012-11-28 14:38

I don't know how some of you are thinking Smoker's loss wasn't intentional.

Vergo blatantly pointed out Smoker wasn't playing to his strengths as per the usual, and was being overly "reliant" on his DF ability.

Which pretty much points out that if Smoker was playing for keeps, he'd be fighting in a completely different way. I avoid saying "fighting seriously" since he fought convincingly enough to take Vergo's attention away from Law & his heart.

Classic distraction strategy that usually involves a loss of some sort. The loss this time just happened to be Smoker himself.

janipani 2012-11-28 14:49

^ So you are saying that beating Vergo breathless and then returning the heart to Law was out of question... ridiculous!

You people just don't wanna admit that Law is bigger than Smoker.

It was clearly obvious that at first Law was weak against Vergo because he held Law's heart. Smoker however was weak against Vergo for no excuse.

Smoker calculated that it is better to save Law's heart rather than fight in order to win, because odds weren't for him.

Law > Vergo > Smoker > Sanji

marvelB 2012-11-28 14:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by janipani (Post 4454572)
^ So you are saying that beating Vergo breathless and then returning the heart to Law was out of question... ridiculous!

You people just don't wanna admit that Law is bigger than Smoker.



Dude, you're still missing the point. Just what part of "If Law dies, Smoker's as good as dead too" don't you get? :rolleyes: And again: SMOKER COULD HAVE RISKED DAMAGING LAW'S HEART IF HE WENT ALL-OUT.

Kona 2012-11-28 14:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by marvelB (Post 4454534)
But remember that he needs Law's power in order to get back his heart. It wouldn't do much good if his heart ended up being lost forever due to Law being killed now, would it? :rolleyes: Not to mention he could risk damaging Law's heart if he got serious while the organ was still in Vergo's hands....

Yeah but Law didn't need physically touch him to get the heart back. If Smoker was stronger he could of knocked him out which he was not capable of pulling off. Killing somebody isn't going to change how you get the heart unless he's gonna attack it. Which he already knew that he had it.


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