Velvet Kiss
 

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Four chapters are out so far and it's pretty good. Harumi Chihiro is a really great author. This one has a great story and a bit of mystery to it as well. A nice blend if you ask me.

That... kind of reminded of Aki Sora chapter 6 with the sex party. Oh gawd, not those NTR stuff.

another Nympho Ojou-sama brat who likes to order people around..

This manga is indeed pretty good, especially for it's beautiful art and romance/h-ness story between the main girl Kano(ko) and the male lead (Nitta) who got into this strange relationship with her due to a hube debt.
The owner of the debt is who asked him earlier to befriend her in return for freezing his debt.

This manga has a nice&intriguing plot that (especially) starts unravelling from ch4 onwards.
Nitta isn't just a push-over and it seems Kano kinda starts liking Nitta more and more. Although the main lead (Nitta) was treated in the beginning of the manga like an "errand boy" by Kano she started to (slowly) show signs of affection towards him (like a true tsundere) and the same goes for Nitta as the story unfolds.

Currently the raws are up to vol.3 ch18.

I loved Harumi Chihiro's Koi wo Suru especially. It was sweet and the art is just great. I didn't know you were allowed to post about h doujin here :heh:

That chapter made me sick... for days.

There is a lot more to her than you think. And it's why I like this so far.

Ack, I clicked that by accident....

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This manga has a nice&intriguing plot that (especially) starts unravelling from ch4 onwards. Nitta isn't just a push-over and it seems Kano kinda starts liking Nitta more and more. Although the main lead (Nitta) was treated in the beginning of the manga like an "errand boy" by Kano she started to (slowly) show signs of affection towards him (like a true tsundere) and the same goes for Nitta as the story unfolds.

Yes, she is a true tsundere. I think they refer to it as classic or original, not sure. But she is the cutest twintail I've ever seen.

Koi wo Suru was so good. I finished it the other day actually. It had me guessing until the end too. And we can post about so long as we stick to the (rare) story and all. :heh:

Chapter 5 is out...



And I really love the art. And for there to be a great story to go along with it... it's a shame it's such a rare find.

I wouldn't call him a 'boy toy' since the father does not know exactly (or turns a blind eye to) what she does with him. I figured she was a girl who got in a lot of trouble, and after being unable to keep any hired help, the father found ways to get poor slumps to wait on her.

Why him? That we'll have to wait and see. I have a couple of ideas, but only time will tell.

Chapter 6 is up.



Seems like Kano visists the orgies 'as usual', but is 'as usual' pretty cold towards it. She sleeps around but doesnt seem like she is enjoying it.

Its more like obligatory sex to keep with 'trend' with her 'friends'. Kind of like smoking - you dont like smoking but since everyone around you is smoking, in order to stay with them you start smoking.

Sex seems like socializing act for Kano with her fake friends rather than real love making, thats why she is so cool and distant about it.

It all starts changing with Nitta of course.

Kano is a tsundere but in an old meaning of its word - she starts aloof and distant (tsun) and slowly starts melting down (becomes dere). She doesn't seem to be switching between tsun and dere like most of contemporary tsunderies do, but she still can be considered somewhat of a tsundere in an orgininal (old) sense.

Like you said in the Jcafe velvet Kiss thread you can (already) see Kano (starting to wonder) how come she feels like (she wants) it with Nitta while it looks like she isn't even in the mood to do it with her friends (Yuki) nor joining them at their "parties".





It's really nice to see Kano warming up more an more to Nitta and seeing her question herself why Nitta makes her feel the way she does when she's with him but not with her "friends".
Now it's time for Nitta to see Kano for what she really is to him (excluding the debt-arrangement and his "wrong" image of her being a "nympfo"). I want Nitta to find out (soon) that Kano is only like that with him and not with her "friends" so he can see her as a real romantic interest instead of

Her and her friends have fun by having sex with each other. I'm sure Kano enjoyed it in the beginning, at least a little. But it's good that they are friends who respect each other about it, it could be a lot worse.
She is a classic tsundere, and it's awesome.

We pretty much know she is deadpan and cool with her friends. that doesnt imply that she enjoyed herself even a little. Because her friends keep on saying she is always like that etc (chapter 6 and Chapter .

So I do really think that she doenst enjoy herself even a little (maybe exception could be Yuki but it doenst seem likely). Because she is always cold like dead-fish with them.

In chapter

So yeah I am staying with my thesis that she actually doesn't enjoy it and it is as mean of socializing with her friend rather than something to gain pleasure. The reason why she offers nitta sex the first time is not because of the pleasure but as revealed in chapter 7



Of course there is a bit of physical attraction to Nitta too, but it doesnt seem like she is searching for intimate pleasure itself.



Personally I find NTR term is good because it involves not only actual situation but the feeling of situation as well, because sometimes not the situation that invokes us that sinking feeling but the feeling of the situation (as in we feel more NTR not when we know that she is a wife and cheats on her husband though we dont see husband at all, but when its childhood friends and when she goes for another guy).

Netorare is a wide term but I think it is pretty fine the way it is and there is no need for additional terms at all as some situations are just too difficult to tell apart.

But again I am uploading and tagging (as a tagger you need to know quite a big about niche things like Netorare) for quite a while so being able to tell NTR is usually pretty easy for me and usage of the term is ease since i have been using it for so long (since 2002 I think).

I would say the situation almost ended in NTR cause it still evokes us that sinking unpleasant feeling in the stomach that most NTR do. Luckily it didnt turn completely into it.

Yeah at least her friend respect her, but frankly it seems like she gives them the place to do their orgies so naturally they give some respect. None seems to be put off by her expressionless face and not really willing cold attitude though since it is what they are used to. They would probably freak out if they would see how Kano reacts with Nitta.

PS I think we shouldnt use spoilers for discussing scanlated chapters. There arent that many participators in discussion and thread doenst even have that many views so I think anyone who take part would probably read the latest scanlated chapter. Of course raws are a different matter altogether.

Yes, I see what you are saying. It was a disheartening chapter. But, I am still looking forward to more.

For those who visit MF you probably know there are chapters 7, chapter 8 and chapter 9 released by one guy. It is still amateurish work and far from official Soba-scans releases but it can still work as a nice kind of spoiler.

I will use spoilers in this case as those are not official scans.



Was a good and cute chapter. Pretty waffy too.



A sad chapter as we learn more and more about Kano's past ant her heartbreaking loneliness.

Will cover chapter 9 bit later.

Huh? You mean someone else scanlated them?

Yes, but the scanlations is very poor, plus it is scanlated from chinese so its a double translation so some details are missing and the scanlator doesnt know how to translate some of the characters names so left the chinese characters instead.

Soba-scans traslation when released will be of higher quality no doubt.

That translation Is more like an extended spoiler than a real scanlation, but I will PM you with the links, so you can see it yourself.

Ah. I think I'll wait for Soba then. I don't want stuff missing and I have patience. Thanks anyway.

Soba's brought me wonderful stuff like RingxMa, so I'm gonna stay pretty loyal to their scans.

Well Soba-scans are slow (mostly because they work on other stuff too) so it will be months before they catch up with chapter 9 at least.

As for Velvet Kiss omake of volume 1 (volume 1 consists of chapters 01-08), it was pretty cute, though only two pages long.



Chapter 9, reveals more about the Kano and kisses.



Another cute chapter. Considering the name of the manga (Velvet Kiss) its pretty obvious that kiss is one of the central things in this manga, at least in my opinion.

Kiss is very sensual act, of course there are various types of kiss, but as a rule kiss is pretty intimate thing, not as much as physical level but on a psychological one.

And it could be one of the keys to this manga. As Kano has sex, but it is not intimate and she doenst feel sensual closeness with it as its just an act of mating, (even at the start of her relationship with Nitta she is pretty distant), but kiss cannot be as easily brushed away. Its kind of a symbol of personal act in this manga, compared to nonpersonal act (when in orgies) - sex.

Bahh... too much talk outside of spoiler tags (for me at least)... bahhh...

Me too, that chapter made me :eyespin: headache and can't sleep for days

I'm pretty certain this is an H-Doujin. This artist has done another series about a husband and wife who ended up working in opposing companies.

Mangaupdates has Velvet Kiss as a Borderline-H title. While Velvet Kiss does have sex in every chapter I don't consider it too explicit or the focal point of the manga. It still plays an important role in the manga though.

Sex takes up 1/3 to 1/2 the chapters, I'd call that an H-manga. I don't think that because the author "whites-out" the genitals for censorship purposes nullifies it from being such.

I'm not sure what you're trying to get across. Are you trying to put this series down or something? There is zero censorship in this series. While there are sex scenes, there is a clear and present plot with fascinating characters.

And I don't think this classifies as a doujin since it's serialized in a magazine and later published in tanks.

Yeah, I kinda already wondered about the whole h-series being discussed here just one page ago, and also mentioned that "another series" Koi wo Suru, which I thought was lovely. So I also don't see what your point is.

It shows no genetalia. And no it isnt censored. Author herself draws it the way that you would not see it. Thus it is not an H. Just borderline H. Another news is that doujins dont get published in magazines. it is a serialized manga, weather you like it or not.

Besides sex scenes are more of a fanservice (specially between side-characters). The main focus is still the plot (romance between Nitta and Kano, Kano's loneliness, Nitta's debt, scheming Kano's family etc).

If you can't see that then you need to consider to have your eyes checked.

No, I'm not cutting it down. The story is decent and has lots of sex. If you know me, I'm perv through and through. There's nothing wrong with calling it pornographic, its still softcore porn. It's serialized in an adult magazine with lots of hentai. I'm just confident enough in myself that I'm enjoying adult content. Why be offended over it just because people refer to it as such?

Well Nana to Kaoru is also in an adult magazine but its hardly a hentai (more like smut). Here we see much more nakedness but in fact probably more plot and interpersonal relationship too.

Velvet Kiss is hardly a hentai, but borderline to it, as again genitalia is not shown and sex is more like an addition to the story rather than the story itself.

Normally Hentai mangas do not have the longer lasting or complex plot. Velvet Kiss is rather complex, certainly much more complex than quite some non-h manga's and the vast majority of H manga's.

In fact so far it is most complicated story that Chihiro has done up to this date (which leads me to think that it will have more than your usual 3 volume fix).

I don't think anyone was offended so much as curious why you were pointing out what seemed obvious

There isn't really that much sex. With six chapters out, one had two pages out of the steady 20 pages per chapter. This is not softcore porn. It's like all of those HBO and Showtime shows. Are they porn with all of the sex that's in them? No.

It's a total addition. It actually served a big purpose in the last chapter too.

Chihiro is truly a great author. She keeps getting better and better.

Though the most of the scenes are more like fanservice. specially between side characters.

The major development during sex scenes would be when they start kissing.

Velvet kiss certainly is higher in terms of art (particularly Kano is the hottest heroine Chihiro has drawn up to date) and the plotline is certainly deeper.

Falling in Love is Work manga was good and had a nice plotline, but Velvet Kiss has much more to offer and raises a lot more questions as it starts digging into social relationships between people, friendship (or lack of real friends), loneliness (in the middle of the crowd), family and of course love.

Chapter 7 is out! :)

Didn't she have her time in ch6?

She was with her "friends."

Man that was easily the most erotic chapter so far.

Oh, if that's just it's simple. I suppose I've only seen this series in adult sites, It took me by surprise a bit that it was being discussed here. Kinda made me think if it's ok for me to make topics on other adult content :heh:

On a side note, Ch.8 was out for awhile. It was independently translated I think.

I believe it's a case by case basis. With most, there is really not much to talk about besides the stuff you can be banned for, lol.

But it is also pretty explaining. Kano wants to see adults without their masks thus enjoys bringing out their strong emotions like fear. Thats why she keeps dragging Nitta around too, though now she is enjoying herself more than she herself expected.