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clem-kun 2004-10-09 12:20

Shining Fansubs Series Drops
 
On behalf of Shining Fansubs, I am here to announce that we have decided to drop many of our competitive series. The reason? Many of our staff do not want to have the obligation to do a series regulary, as we have our own social lives, education, and families to attend to. When fansubbing becomes our top priority over all else, something is wrong with the picture. Also, people have been labelling us as 'speedsubbers', a title I particularly dislike because I hate speedsubbers myself. Therefore, we are going to be doing rare series now. That way, we can release episodes as we wish, without it being an obligation. Fansubbing can once again be a hobby. So here are the series we dropped:

1. Mai-HiME
2. Gundam Seed Destiny
3. Windy Tales
4. Sunabouzu

And we have picked up some new series/OVAs that we'll be releasing soon. Stay tuned, and gomen to all those who we have troubled with this news.

- Clem

Burner of Anime 2004-10-09 12:34

Troubled? I can only say thank God there are people interested in opening up the lenght and breath of Japanese animation instead of concentrating on what appears 'cool'. There is a veritable backlog of titles that streach decades with no hope of licencing, working on those will be much appreciated :D

7thMethuselah 2004-10-09 12:41

Well, I can only appreciate some groups aren't into oversubbing certain shows but instead choose for more rare shows that no one else gets into otherwise. Good luck on your new projects !!

DekaMaster 2004-10-09 13:02

You should feel no obligation anyways. If you do every new show you want you should do them as you feel you are able. But it's cool you are thinking about older stuff.

hooliganj 2004-10-09 16:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by clem-kun
3. Windy Tales

This one's kind of a bummer, since it leaves Deathsquad as the only group doing this show, and they're definately speed-subbers.

Good luck on your new projects, though. If it's something cool I'll be sure to check it out. :)

Fel 2004-10-09 18:27

I for one am glad to hear that you will concentrating on rare stuff, as new shows have enough groups subbing them anyway.
You should do what you want to do. I do hope you will release some more double-subbed stuff at some point, because it is a big help to me and other learners. :)

Besides, stuff that's hard to find is the only stuff worth watching! :p

Darth_E_ 2004-10-09 19:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by clem-kun
When fansubbing becomes our top priority over all else, something is wrong with the picture. Also, people have been labelling us as 'speedsubbers', a title I particularly dislike because I hate speedsubbers myself. Therefore, we are going to be doing rare series now. That way, we can release episodes as we wish, without it being an obligation. Fansubbing can once again be a hobby.

And we have picked up some new series/OVAs that we'll be releasing soon. Stay tuned, and gomen to all those who we have troubled with this news.

- Clem

I think that's cool what you are doing, though I think I can understand why some people label you as "speed subbers" ( even though it might not be your intention). I only watched one release ( Mai Hime ep1) and my first impression was that it was quickly done. ( No karaokes, no op/end translations, no credit translations, lots of scene bleeds, no signs typesetting (then again, there wasnt alot of signs in that episode) ,basic subtitle styling...etc). But regardless, good luck with what you are doing and looking forward for the new series you are going to sub :)

Yours,
-Elly

monolithic 2004-10-10 09:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fel
I for one am glad to hear that you will concentrating on rare stuff, as new shows have enough groups subbing them anyway.
You should do what you want to do. I do hope you will release some more double-subbed stuff at some point, because it is a big help to me and other learners. :)

Besides, stuff that's hard to find is the only stuff worth watching! :p

Agreed. I never caught on with Gundam SEED, Naruto, Shaman King and FMA. :heh:

EV|RockLee 2004-10-10 16:10

*crosses fingers for possibiltyof shinfa doing super robot shows like the yuusha series*

Ephram9 2004-10-13 14:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by clem-kun
On behalf of Shining Fansubs, I am here to announce that we have decided to drop many of our competitive series. The reason? Many of our staff do not want to have the obligation to do a series regulary, as we have our own social lives, education, and families to attend to. When fansubbing becomes our top priority over all else, something is wrong with the picture. Also, people have been labelling us as 'speedsubbers', a title I particularly dislike because I hate speedsubbers myself. Therefore, we are going to be doing rare series now. That way, we can release episodes as we wish, without it being an obligation. Fansubbing can once again be a hobby. So here are the series we dropped:

1. Mai-HiME
2. Gundam Seed Destiny
3. Windy Tales
4. Sunabouzu

And we have picked up some new series/OVAs that we'll be releasing soon. Stay tuned, and gomen to all those who we have troubled with this news.

- Clem


so you dropped some series, but you also picked some up... has the situation changed?

Access 2004-10-13 16:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elly
( No karaokes, no op/end translations, no credit translations, lots of scene bleeds, no signs typesetting (then again, there wasnt alot of signs in that episode) ,basic subtitle styling...etc). But regardless, good luck with what you are doing and looking forward for the new series you are going to sub :)
-Elly

Seriously do half these things denote it as a 'speed-sub'? I am probably going to rip the karaoke out of one of my projects b'cos the guy that retimes it every ep. is inactive and I personally don't see a point in it. Likewise for credit translations. And sub styling is extraneous, I prefer to focus on the essentials and not the 'fluff'. The stigma of speed-subbing has more to do with the quality of the essential translations, editing errors, serious mis-timing, etc. -- not the lack of extraneous features like fancy fonts, karaoke, credit translations, etc.

Always question the status quo -- we need practicality and common sense, not fluff.

clem-kun 2004-10-13 18:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Access
The stigma of speed-subbing has more to do with the quality of the essential translations, editing errors, serious mis-timing, etc.

True, and I'd have to admit we had lots of those on our Mai-HiME release. We were going to release a v2, but since our group was busy anyways, I just decided to drop the series as a whole.

And just hold tight, our new releases are coming soon. We are trying to make it as good as possible to prevent being called speedsubbers and being flamed to death in our IRC channel again.

- Clem

rainking187 2004-10-13 19:25

It says in your sig that your looking for suggestions, so I have to suggest Morizo & Kiccoro's Holiday. It looks interesting. I don't know if anyone's doing it, it came out almost a month ago, and no one's subbed it yet.

Darth_E_ 2004-10-13 20:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Access
Seriously do half these things denote it as a 'speed-sub'? I am probably going to rip the karaoke out of one of my projects b'cos the guy that retimes it every ep. is inactive and I personally don't see a point in it. Likewise for credit translations. And sub styling is extraneous, I prefer to focus on the essentials and not the 'fluff'. The stigma of speed-subbing has more to do with the quality of the essential translations, editing errors, serious mis-timing, etc. -- not the lack of extraneous features like fancy fonts, karaoke, credit translations, etc.

not at all. it's not about being fancy or not, they just gave me the initial impression of speedsubs is all. I wasn't trying to demean Shifa or something, my appologies if I gave such impression.

Yours,
-Elly

Judo 2004-10-17 06:44

so you want to do older anime? How bout doing "Iga no Kabamaru" then?

Jinxy 2004-10-19 03:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by hooliganj
This one's kind of a bummer, since it leaves Deathsquad as the only group doing this show, and they're definately speed-subbers.

Good luck on your new projects, though. If it's something cool I'll be sure to check it out. :)

We're working on fixing that, We currently lack a stable QC system.
But we'll be fixing that. We hope to remove that Label on us. ASAP

Sakaki- 2004-10-19 08:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Access
Seriously do half these things denote it as a 'speed-sub'? I am probably going to rip the karaoke out of one of my projects b'cos the guy that retimes it every ep. is inactive and I personally don't see a point in it. Likewise for credit translations. And sub styling is extraneous, I prefer to focus on the essentials and not the 'fluff'. The stigma of speed-subbing has more to do with the quality of the essential translations, editing errors, serious mis-timing, etc. -- not the lack of extraneous features like fancy fonts, karaoke, credit translations, etc.

Always question the status quo -- we need practicality and common sense, not fluff.


It's trully sad if you retime the karaoke every episode when its just the same clip of music and song being played every episode and you could just resync the start time and everything would be jolly and dandy.

Enjoy
Sakaki-

Access 2004-10-19 17:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sakaki-
It's trully sad if you retime the karaoke every episode when its just the same clip of music and song being played every episode and you could just resync the start time and everything would be jolly and dandy.

Enjoy
Sakaki-

It's not, every OP is different, so a simple resync is no good.

clem-kun 2004-10-19 18:00

Good news (to some).

We might be repicking up Windy Tales because of several reasons.

1. It's one of my personal favorites this season.
2. The art is unique; the anime is unique.
3. We have had many (20+) requests for to repick it up.
4. We want to give fans a choice between two groups.

However, our decision is not yet final. As I have stated earlier, we don't want to feel obligated to demanding fans. But if you have a thought, please share it. It may help us make our decision.

NeoSam 2004-10-19 19:09

How about Futakoi?
I'm not sure if anyone is going to fansub this show, 2 episodes have already aired in japan.

iluid 2004-10-19 20:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeoSam
How about Futakoi?
I'm not sure if anyone is going to fansub this show, 2 episodes have already aired in japan.

A few other groups are working on futakoi, including some quality ones like ishin. It may take a little while, but it will be subbed by others with out a doubt.

As for my thoughts, I think picking up windy tales again would be a good move. There are a lot of people that don't care much for the other version that's out there.

Burner of Anime 2004-10-19 21:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by clem-kun
Good news (to some).

We might be repicking up Windy Tales because of several reasons.

1. It's one of my personal favorites this season.
2. The art is unique; the anime is unique.
3. We have had many (20+) requests for to repick it up.
4. We want to give fans a choice between two groups.

However, our decision is not yet final. As I have stated earlier, we don't want to feel obligated to demanding fans. But if you have a thought, please share it. It may help us make our decision.

That'll be a good idea to do as well :D

Of course, there appears to be another terminally undersubbed gem in School Rumble. Sure there is someone working on it, but they're a very small team and I'm sure they could use some help. Otherwise, this one will be in danger of going the Keroro Gunso way with Slowdat's at its head :( :sad: Worth considering since the title is clearly the comedy series for the Fall season.

clem-kun 2004-10-19 21:48

Well, I know Futakoi is already being worked on, and unless we have proof it is being dropped, we aren't considering it. The same with School Rumble. It was never on our list, and Dash Fansubs does a good job with all the literary and humorous details, so we're not going to pick it up. But Windy Tales...

NoSanninWa 2004-10-20 00:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by clem-kun
Good news (to some).

We might be repicking up Windy Tales because of several reasons.

1. It's one of my personal favorites this season.
2. The art is unique; the anime is unique.
3. We have had many (20+) requests for to repick it up.
4. We want to give fans a choice between two groups.

However, our decision is not yet final. As I have stated earlier, we don't want to feel obligated to demanding fans. But if you have a thought, please share it. It may help us make our decision.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you!

After watching the other group's verison of episodes 2 and 3 I can't tell you how happy this possibility makes me! Not only is their translation sometimes a bit questionable, but they don't seem to have even the slightest familiarity with the concept of proofreading. If I mentioned the letters QC to them, they'd probably think I was talking about quartz crystals.

(inc) 2004-10-27 19:46

May I also add a vote for your continuing with Windy Tales. I just watched your ep 01 and thoroughly enjoyed it. Don't leave me at the mercy of.... lol

(inc)

G-G 2004-10-29 21:05

I recently watched your subs on Dragon Quest Dai no Daiboken 1... please, don't stop it, bring more, I love this series ^^

naught 2004-10-30 10:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by clem-kun
3. We have had many (20+) requests for to repick it up.

Consider this another request. I don't care about your speed. I just want to be able to enjoy a translation that doesn't constantly screw up the most basic stuff and leave you with a sour taste, like the one from Death-Squad.

EV|RockLee 2004-11-04 23:16

that Dragonwarrior series is awesome. However, i was thinking just MAYBE you could pick up Ring ni kakero. i guess that has a problem with the whole "don't want pressure" thing, but it appears noone else wants to sub that excellents series.

auriya 2004-11-10 14:12

Has Shining Fansubs decided to do Meine Liebe?

Sorry if this is a dumb question; I read in the Meine Liebe thread that ShinFa was interested in subbing it, but I'm not sure if the decision is certain or not. As far as I know, no other groups are working on it.

clem-kun 2004-11-21 21:38

Good news.

We have re-picked up Windy Tales. Episode 01 remake is currently on its way, with awesome brand new OP/ED sequences and retranslation. This will be a joint with Anime-Faith (thanks to them for bringing this project back to life again!).

NoSanninWa 2004-11-22 02:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by clem-kun
Good news.

We have re-picked up Windy Tales. Episode 01 remake is currently on its way, with awesome brand new OP/ED sequences and retranslation. This will be a joint with Anime-Faith (thanks to them for bringing this project back to life again!).

You have just made me a very happy fan! Thank you for resurrecting your work on one of the most original shows of this season.

naught 2004-11-24 10:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by clem-kun
Good news.

We have re-picked up Windy Tales. Episode 01 remake is currently on its way, with awesome brand new OP/ED sequences and retranslation. This will be a joint with Anime-Faith (thanks to them for bringing this project back to life again!).

Hooray! Hooray!

nororu 2004-11-26 12:07

it's one of the finest works i have ever seen!!!

this series is being supervised by MAMORU OSHII!!!
the art director is Shichiro Kobayashi !!!

**a happy fan**


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